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In response to the multitude of threads pretending to be prompts for enlightened discussion but which are really invitations for atheists to hold a circle-jerk, I present you all with the following reasons why atheism is stupid. I invite any atheist to spin their wheels in an attempt to reconcile their beliefs with the following:

1. I'm not going to go to the trouble of trying to denigrate atheists. Instead, I want to ask a question. How do you honestly think a thread of this kind would be received?

In response to the multitude of threads pretending to be prompts for enlightened discussion but which are really invitations for atheists to hold a circle-jerk, I present you all with the following reasons why atheism is stupid:

1. I'm not going to go to the trouble of trying to denigrate atheists. Instead, I want to ask a question. How do you honestly think a thread of this kind would be received?
poorly, like the christian bashing ones; be active though :D

In response to the multitude of threads pretending to be prompts for enlightened discussion but which are really invitations for atheists to hold a circle-jerk, I present you all with the following reasons why atheism is stupid:

1. I'm not going to go to the trouble of trying to denigrate atheists. Instead, I want to ask a question. How do you honestly think a thread of this kind would be received?

The same way as always : As a nice opportunity to make fun of something and a "who can come up with the funniest post" contest.

poorly
Why? What kind of posts would you predict? That is, if I had actually put some reasons there, legitimate or not.

Why? What kind of posts would you predict? That is, if I had actually put some reasons there, legitimate or not.
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I actually don't read those...I guess that it's usually atheists treating christians like idiots and christians imagining that they're under attack by society at large. am i rite?

I actually don't read those...I guess that it's usually atheists treating christians like idiots and christians imagining that they're under attack by society at large. am i rite?

Either that or the other way around... pretty much 50/50, I would say.

The main reason is because it's never a bad idea to hedge your bets. If you're going to be a good person anyway, you might as well pretend it's because some beard in the sky told you to on the off chance you actually will get a better afterlife.

why must this go on....and on and on and on

i belive on thing you belive another, who cares if they dont affect anyone else then do it really need to be draged through the mud?

I actually don't read those...I guess that it's usually atheists treating christians like idiots and christians imagining that they're under attack by society at large. am i rite?Either that or the other way around... pretty much 50/50, I would say.
sums it up nicely

The main reason is because it's never a bad idea to hedge your bets. If you're going to be a good person anyway, you might as well pretend it's because some beard in the sky told you to on the off chance you actually will get a better afterlife.
Doesn't work. It's impossible to really believe something solely because it's safer than not. It's like me demanding you believe deep in your heart that global warming is not occurring, or else I will beat you with a belt for hours

why must this go on....and on and on and on

i belive on thing you belive another, who cares if they dont affect anyone else then do it really need to be draged through the mud?
apparently, yes

why must this go on....and on and on and on

i belive on thing you belive another, who cares if they dont affect anyone else then do it really need to be draged through the mud?
On the NS forums, it appears it's necessary for Christianity to be dragged through the mud, spat on, and stomped on. It's not enough to argue about its effects or intent, but the necessity is to insult billions. Pisses me off to no end. :/

apparently, yes

well thats depressing

On the NS forums, it appears it's necessary for Christianity to be dragged through the mud, spat on, and stomped on. It's not enough to argue about its effects or intent, but the necessity is to insult billions. Pisses me off to no end. :/
Unfortunately it's a two-way street.

Also, threads like that can be a lot of fun.

Doesn't work. It's impossible to really believe something solely because it's safer than not. It's like me demanding you believe deep in your heart that global warming is not occurring, or else I will beat you with a belt for hours
You know, you might want to be careful about saying that, there's people out there who would take you up on that offer
just not me

On the NS forums, it appears it's necessary for Christianity to be dragged through the mud, spat on, and stomped on. It's not enough to argue about its effects or intent, but the necessity is to insult billions. Pisses me off to no end. :/

well i dont think its just christianity....but i must say it is tiresom

Doesn't work. It's impossible to really believe something solely because it's safer than not. It's like me demanding you believe deep in your heart that global warming is not occurring, or else I will beat you with a belt for hours

yeah, sort of, except you're not omnipotent, and if you start taking your belt off, you're going to get killed:p

On the NS forums, it appears it's necessary for Christianity to be dragged through the mud, spat on, and stomped on. It's not enough to argue about its effects or intent, but the necessity is to insult billions. Pisses me off to no end. :/
It's not our fault that there are so many inconsistencies in the bible ;)

seriously though, don't take it to heart

Unfortunately it's a two-way street.

Also, threads like that can be a lot of fun.
I've got to agree with Calm Minds...that's not fun, that's depressing. I'm not a Christian, but I really identify with them in this fight, and it sure as hell doesn't seem like they're the aggressors. :S

It's not our fault that there are so many inconsistencies in the bible ;)

seriously though, don't take it to heart
Is it so important to try and ruin the source of stability in so many peoples' lives in order to argue that your own worldview is superior? :(

I've got to agree with Calm Minds...that's not fun, that's depressing. I'm not a Christian, but I really identify with them in this fight, and it sure as hell doesn't seem like they're the aggressors. :S


They love it really, why else would they post in NS General?

They love it really, why else would they post in NS General?
NS General is not the property of atheists at large. They have no more 'right' to post in it than Christians, and no greater right to go unharassed.

I've got to agree with Calm Minds...that's not fun, that's depressing. I'm not a Christian, but I really identify with them in this fight, and it sure as hell doesn't seem like they're the aggressors. :S
Have you read some of they Creation/ID threads and anything started by Avalon II?

oh god they started

this os thread comand perpare to dive

NS General is not the property of atheists at large. They have no more 'right' to post in it than Christians, and no greater right to go unharassed.
By your post count you've obviously been here long enough that you should know that no-one goes un-harrassed around here

Have you read some of they Creation/ID threads and anything started by Avalon II?
No...I'm not interested in getting into these threads, most of the time. It just spills into unrelated threads and pisses me the fuck off. :/

NS General is not the property of atheists at large. They have no more 'right' to post in it than Christians, and no greater right to go unharassed.

You need to get a grip.

This is a public forum and grown-ups accept the consequences of their actions.

oh god they started

this os thread comand perpare to dive
prepare to dive, aye sir!
:D

By your post count you've obviously been here long enough that you should know that no-one goes un-harrassed around here
And is that right? Is that just? What do you do to try and make NSG a friendly place where differing opinions are valued and respected?

No...I'm not interested in getting into these threads, most of the time. It just spills into unrelated threads and pisses me the fuck off. :/
then you just need to learn to relax :)

first the
"well you been here for the last 5 min...you should know how t works around here"

and then comes the
"why must this always go that the bad place" post

after that
"i know what you mean"

udates to show the
"i think everyone is stupid and iam right"

all the sane people leave the thread

some jackass make funn of the reamain poeople untill he gets bored

sound about right?

And is that right? Is that just?
No, but that is how it is
What do you do to try and make NSG a friendly place where differing opinions are valued and respected?
I personally refrain from insulting people and for the most part ignore those that think a good rebuttal is: you're stupid

In response to the multitude of threads pretending to be prompts for enlightened discussion but which are really invitations for atheists to hold a circle-jerk, I present you all with the following reasons why atheism is stupid. I invite any atheist to spin their wheels in an attempt to reconcile their beliefs with the following:

1. I'm not going to go to the trouble of trying to denigrate atheists. Instead, I want to ask a question. How do you honestly think a thread of this kind would be received?

It really depends on how stupid the list was.

first the
"well you been here for the last 5 min...you should know how t works around here"

and then comes the
"why must this always go that the bad place" post

after that
"i know what you mean"

udates to show the
"i think everyone is stupid and iam right"

all the sane people leave the thread

some jackass make funn of the reamain poeople untill he gets bored

sound about right?
Yup, except for the sane people leave; I'm still here...






















wait I didn't prove anything with that did I? :confused:

It really depends on how stupid the list was.
What if each point was valid?
or invalid?

hey cool i'm a galaxian warrior now

Yup, except for the sane people leave; I'm still here...

na we are the ones that will continue on to drive this boat to the island of stupidity

yar matey




















wait I didn't prove anything with that did I? :confused:[/QUOTE]

NS General is not the property of atheists at large. They have no more 'right' to post in it than Christians, and no greater right to go unharassed.

Unharnessed? I'm willing to bet that Christians don't get stopped in the streets by an evangelising Atheist and called an 'evil sinner'. What they get in these forums is at least equal to what we get in real life, and atheists get it on the forum just as much. I don't agree with either side doing it, but if you all insist on continually bickering on this forum, then that's what you get.

If the atheists doing it here get on your nerves, just ignore them, like I have to do when the Christians do it, both on the forum and in reality.

What if each point was valid?
or invalid?
Well, then make the list so we can argue about the validity, you Galaxian Warrior you :D

Unharnessed? I'm willing to bet that Christians don't get stopped in the streets by an evangelising Atheist and called an 'evil sinner'.
Actually I've done that to a Jehovah's Witness
<snip> If the atheists doing it here get on your nerves, just ignore them, like I have to do when the Christians do it, both on the forum and in reality.
good advice, he probably won't take it though :(

I've got to agree with Calm Minds...that's not fun, that's depressing. I'm not a Christian, but I really identify with them in this fight, and it sure as hell doesn't seem like they're the aggressors. :S
If you find it depressing then leave those threads alone. Plenty of other stuff on the forum.

Two of the posters I respect the most here, are Christians. Not only that, but they're Christians constantly arguing about Christianity with other Christians. Oddly these two (Demp & Jocabia) have no problems accepting neither science or other people's right to live how they see fit.

See, I don't agree with your claim at all. I occationally see people yell "Purge the world of stupid religion!" and such shit, but that's absolutely not what's usually going on.
It's almost always a case of people taking the Bible literal & trying to smack someone over the head with it.

Do you think it's less insulting to an atheist, or a follower of a non-Christian faith, when Pat Robertson wannabes conclude it's impossible for the lot of us to have any sort of moral standard, decency or common sense?

Do you imagine it appears less than mindblowingly insane when literalists claim the Earth is 6000 years old, and presentday science is a false god?

Do you for one second believe it doesn't severely piss off human rights proponents when evangelicals takes the concept of sin & turns it into a personal insult levelled at them?

Oh whatever... You misunderstand that most of the atheists on here - and at least a handful of Christians - don't mind Christianity at all. The religion itself isn't what's causing all the fights. It's a few born-again's.

And is that right? Is that just? What do you do to try and make NSG a friendly place where differing opinions are valued and respected?

Nothing. That's not the point of this Forum. If it was, there would be little to discuss apart from trading cookie recipes...

I meant to say this here but put it in another thread instead. Whatever, I'll keep it there, but put it here too.

Yeah...I'm probably just being nutty. I'm gonna see if I can masturbate and go to sleep now. Good night, my pretties :)

How would a list like that go down?

Well, if you could come up with ten unique, separate reasons, all of which focused solely on the earthly consequences of atheism and didn't basically say "Atheists did it, therefore atheism does it" at any point, I for one would be very impressed.

<snip> "Purge the world of stupid religion!" <snip>
Purge the world of stupid religion!!!!!!
the intelligent one(s) can stay
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

damit i forgot the yellig voice os resion....aka the parent poster trying to stop the tread once and for all....but just like any other child they just keep on going

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In response to the multitude of threads pretending to be prompts for enlightened discussion but which are really invitations for atheists to hold a circle-jerk, I present you all with the following reasons why atheism is stupid. I invite any atheist to spin their wheels in an attempt to reconcile their beliefs with the following:

1. I'm not going to go to the trouble of trying to denigrate atheists. Instead, I want to ask a question. How do you honestly think a thread of this kind would be received?

I was within a micrometer of killing you and draping your corpse over my shoulders as a primitive mantle for being an ass. And then I saw your last sentence. And I laughed. Hard. Hard enought to fall out of my seat. I think I love you. But that might just be the concussion talking.

How would a list like that go down?

Well, if you could come up with ten unique, separate reasons, all of which focused solely on the earthly consequences of atheism and didn't basically say "Atheists did it, therefore atheism does it" at any point, I for one would be very impressed.
As would I; if for no other reason then the people who could come up with such a list, wouldn't

How would a list like that go down?

Well, if you could come up with ten unique, separate reasons, all of which focused solely on the earthly consequences of atheism and didn't basically say "Atheists did it, therefore atheism does it" at any point, I for one would be very impressed.
I'm just not interested in breaking them down. This probably comes off as an attempt to be "holier than thou," but the real reason is that I'd rather do most anything than concentrate on putting down a group of people of which I've been a member. Mostly, I'd rather skeet and sleep. :)

damit i forgot the yellig voice os resion....aka the parent poster trying to stop the tread once and for all....but just like any other child they just keep on going

....
lol

I was within a micrometer of killing you and draping your corpse over my shoulders as a primitive mantle for being an ass. And then I saw your last sentence. And I laughed. Hard. Hard enought to fall out of my seat. I think I love you. But that might just be the concussion talking.
I had to work to stuff some sentences in there so my list wouldn't start showing up in the thread preview :D

I'm just not interested in breaking them down. This probably comes off as an attempt to be "holier than thou," but the real reason is that I'd rather do most anything than concentrate on putting down a group of people of which I've been a member. Mostly, I'd rather skeet and sleep. :)
I'm gonna see if I can masturbate and go to sleep now. Good night, my pretties
Having trouble with the masturbating or the sleeping? ;)

Nothing. That's not the point of this Forum. If it was, there would be little to discuss apart from trading cookie recipes...

You can have a discussion whilst still respecting the opinions of the person you're talking to. When you're talking with your friends about things, do you suddenly blurt out 'You're such an ignorant moron, your beliefs are stupid!' like people do around here?

Having trouble with the masturbating or the sleeping? ;)
I find it incredibly hard to tear myself away from internet conversation, especially when I started it :P

I had to work to stuff some sentences in there so my list wouldn't start showing up in the thread preview :D

your a very smart man, but i must say this is a very unique thread.....4 pages long and no one had call each other names.....

boring i must say, but its the best one i have read in a very long time

your a very smart man, but i must say this is a very unique thread.....4 pages long and no one had call each other names.....

boring i must say, but its the best one i have read in a very long time
lol, thank you! I'm glad a thread of mine is actually being enjoyed for something other than racist jokes XD

<snip>boring i must say, but its the best one i have read in a very long time
and yet you keep coming back....
it must be me :rolleyes: :D

Well I have no religion and i dont mind any religion as long as they dont pressure me into being in it. All I can say is, why is there ice-cream on my keyboard?

Now I'm leaving! I mean it! If you catch me posting again from now 'til 0900 EST, berate me like you've never berated me before!

Well I have no religion and i dont mind any religion as long as they dont pressure me into being in it. All I can say is, why is there ice-cream on my keyboard?
It must be Osutoria-Hangarii's fault, but why is he masturbating at your house?

and yet you keep coming back....
it must be me :rolleyes: :D

i think that this may be true, my text based concubine....or what ever a male would be calling in such a situation......

hey why the hell ins there no a word for a male concubine....this is sexest

You can have a discussion whilst still respecting the opinions of the person you're talking to. When you're talking with your friends about things, do you suddenly blurt out 'You're such an ignorant moron, your beliefs are stupid!' like people do around here?

I don't, and I don't do that on here, either. But it has happened to me in RL just as it happens here...

well its 2:30 am here so iam gone too, i ahve to work at 10

have fun my marry band of men & women

i think that this may be true, my text based concubine....or what ever a male would be calling in such a situation......

hey why the hell ins there no a word for a male concubine....this is sexest
The closest I could come with is paramour, and thats just more of a unisex term

Hey we're up to 5 pages with trolling or flaming

Hey we're up to 5 pages with trolling or flaming
and in counting...mind you without flames you cant have a fire...and fire is good...yes...fire is very good...i like fire...

i think that this may be true, my text based concubine....or what ever a male would be calling in such a situation......

hey why the hell ins there no a word for a male concubine....this is sexest
Concuboner?

and in counting...mind you without flames you cant have a fire...and fire is good...yes...fire is very good...i like fire...
* holds lit lighter to shorkandusky, waits for the fire to spread *

i think that this may be true, my text based concubine....or what ever a male would be calling in such a situation......

hey why the hell ins there no a word for a male concubine....this is sexest
Concuboner?
lol

* holds lit lighter to shorkandusky, waits for the fire to spread *

...hey where'd you get that lighter from?

Is it so important to try and ruin the source of stability in so many peoples' lives in order to argue that your own worldview is superior? :(

I'm not christian but my grandparents are and I'd never want to ruin this stability and help, but the problem with religions (all of them in differents degrees) is that they are telling a TRUTH, and when something is TRUE, at the end, they try to become from a pesonal believe into a general rule, and I'm not going to accept that something based in faith will become into a law, like fighting against AIDS with chastity and not condoms. That's criminal!:headbang:

...hey where'd you get that lighter from?
Wouldn't you like to know?

As an athiest I'd welcome the thread.

As an athiest I'd welcome the thread.
I'm waiting for Avalon II to step up to the plate and come up with 10 interesting items

"Atheism" may or may not be stupid, but it suffers from a ball-less name, so to speak.

Seriously, if we were to compare the phonemes of "Atheism" to, say, "Judaism", we'd find that the latter tends to be more authoritative to say. That being judged by how hard each phoneme is, or, in other words, how often and with what force the tongue touches the roof of the mouth or the lips.

/ay/, a vowel, categorically separates the tongue from the roof of the mouth. /th/ involves the blowing of air between the tongue and the roof of the mouth (while the tongue is crouched near the front of the mouth, possibly momentarily touching the teeth), thus us a softer than other consonant sounds. Again, /ee/ and /ih/ can both be thrown out for the tongue mashing anything. /s/ involves, like /th/ the blowing of air, though it can be with or without the tongue (some pronounce their s's by blowing between teeth or lips)--and when it is with tongue, it is placed further backward than in /th/ without touching the teeth. Then /m/ involves closed and opened lips. No tongue is touching anything.

Nowhere in the word, except with the possibility of /th/ when the tongue is placed forward enough to be touching the teeth--are we able to mash anything in our mouth with a phoneme in the word (though the /th/ touching is hardly a hard touch, as the tongue is moving forward to backward, not its strong suit). That might seem menial, but the feeling of saying a word is actually a large part of if people like a word, and because the tongue is the strongest muscle involved in speech, and we tend to metaphorically consider it enforcing our words. "Judaism", on the other hand has hard or semi-hard /j/ and /d/ phonemes, with which we can assert ourselves or our religious convictions in the word.

So while it may or may not be "stupid", atheism suffers from a non-assertive name, the way I look at it.

you'd be flamed flamed so badly if you did this

i think that this may be true, my text based concubine....or what ever a male would be calling in such a situation......

hey why the hell ins there no a word for a male concubine....this is sexest

The english language is sexist?

In response to the multitude of threads pretending to be prompts for enlightened discussion but which are really invitations for atheists to hold a circle-jerk, I present you all with the following reasons why atheism is stupid. I invite any atheist to spin their wheels in an attempt to reconcile their beliefs with the following:

1. I'm not going to go to the trouble of trying to denigrate atheists. Instead, I want to ask a question. How do you honestly think a thread of this kind would be received?
I was actualy intrested in seeing the responses

And I was about 90 percent sure I was going to see the stupid pascalls wager pop up

The english language is sexist?
No I think s/he meant to say Concuboners are sexiest ;)