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So, a fetus isn’t legally a human being. It is not an intoxicant. Thus, I conclude that fetuses may be legally eaten. I suppose they are considered medical waste, but people can buy medical waste, right? So, why can’t a curious fellow with a few hundred dollars or so to spare enjoy a nice tasty aborted fetus in the privacy of his own home?

You have no idea how much I hate you right now:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

:rolleyes: Oy Vey...

So, a fetus isn’t legally a human being. It is not an intoxicant. Thus, I conclude that fetuses may be legally eaten. I suppose they are considered medical waste, but people can buy medical waste, right? So, why can’t a curious fellow with a few hundred dollars or so to spare enjoy a nice tasty aborted fetus in the privacy of his own home?
Because they taste terrible unless you pour garlic and tobassco all over them. Then they just taste like garlic and tobassco which are available anywhere, so why not go eat some snails or ape's brains instead?

Why not? Because there would be a large crowd of angry people, probably including some pro-abortion people, that would shoot at you.

So, a fetus isn’t legally a human being. It is not an intoxicant. Thus, I conclude that fetuses may be legally eaten. I suppose they are considered medical waste, but people can buy medical waste, right? So, why can’t a curious fellow with a few hundred dollars or so to spare enjoy a nice tasty aborted fetus in the privacy of his own home?
Because fetuses don't pass the required FDA standards. Damn shame.

So, a fetus isn’t legally a human being. It is not an intoxicant. Thus, I conclude that fetuses may be legally eaten. I suppose they are considered medical waste, but people can buy medical waste, right? So, why can’t a curious fellow with a few hundred dollars or so to spare enjoy a nice tasty aborted fetus in the privacy of his own home?

Ummm... No.

Fetuses legally count as human beings according to law (which is why they call abortions KILLING HUMANS). And, only a cannibal will eat a human.


If you eat an ABORTED fetus, you'll get sick and die anyway, so what's the point?

So, a fetus isn’t legally a human being. It is not an intoxicant. Thus, I conclude that fetuses may be legally eaten. I suppose they are considered medical waste, but people can buy medical waste, right? So, why can’t a curious fellow with a few hundred dollars or so to spare enjoy a nice tasty aborted fetus in the privacy of his own home?

A human leg isn't legally a human being, nor is it an intoxicant. It also would be much meatier. Why go for inferior goods?

Ummm... No.

Fetuses legally count as human beings according to law (which is why they call abortions KILLING HUMANS). And, only a cannibal will eat a human.
What law? Where?

Other than the cultural stigma attached to it - and that most people wouldn't be interested, there probably isn't anything wrong with it.

Plus, I hear it cured Christopher Reeves...:D

I want my baby-back, baby-back, baby-back, baby-back... Chili's!!!! Baby-back ribs!! Want my... Chili's baby-back ribs!

barbeque-sauce!

I want my baby-back, baby-back, baby-back, baby-back... Chili's!!!! Baby-back ribs!! Want my... Chili's baby-back ribs!

barbeque-sauce!
Do you even know how many fetuses it takes to make a good meal? It's not worth it and it takes too long to prepare.

A human leg isn't legally a human being, nor is it an intoxicant. It also would be much meatier. Why go for inferior goods?
True, true. I wonder if it is legal to eat a human leg. I mean, as long as you didn't take it against the dude (or dudets) will, why not?

Ummm... No.

Fetuses legally count as human beings according to law (which is why they call abortions KILLING HUMANS). And, only a cannibal will eat a human.


If you eat an ABORTED fetus, you'll get sick and die anyway, so what's the point?

It's actually the exact opposite. Fetuses are not considered human beings, otherwise abortion would be murder according to the law, which it currently is not.

Plus, I hear it cured Christopher Reeves...:D
Dude, just stay out of it.:p

Dude, just stay out of it.:p
You're so going to hell. :p

Ummm... No.

Fetuses legally count as human beings according to law (which is why they call abortions KILLING HUMANS). And, only a cannibal will eat a human.


If you eat an ABORTED fetus, you'll get sick and die anyway, so what's the point?

1: For a long-winded, pointless debate on whether or not abortions = killing humans, click here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452486).

2: What's wrong with cannibalism?

You're so going to hell. :p
That’s the second time someone’s told me that today.

1: For a long-winded, pointless debate on whether or not abortions = killing humans, click here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=452486).

2: What's wrong with cannibalism?

2. It ignores the fact that many things are not cannible, such as rocks and trees.

That’s the second time someone’s told me that today.
But hey, so am I. It'll be a party.

As far as I can tell, cannibalism is not illegal so long as the person you are eating is already dead (i.e. you did not kill him/her), and the people who care for/about this individual don't mind (which they usually abominate).

What law? Where?


United States

Until the mid-19th century, first trimester abortions were legal in the United States under common law. By 1900, abortion was prohibited by law throughout the U.S. unless two or more physicians agreed that the procedure was necessary to preserve the life of the pregnant women.172

In the 1960’s, complications from illegal abortions accounted for almost 20% of all pregnancy-related admissions to municipal hospitals in New York and California.173 By the late 1960’s, state legislatures began to reconsider the legalization of abortion in response to changes in public opinion and calls from national medical, legal, religious, and social welfare organizations. By 1973, 17 states had liberalized their abortion laws.

In 1973, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Roe v. Wade, recognized abortion as a right under the United States Constitution. Specifically, the Court ruled that during the first trimester of pregnancy the state cannot bar any woman from obtaining an abortion from a licensed physician. During the second trimester, the state can regulate the abortion procedure only to protect the woman’s health.174 In the third trimester the state may regulate to protect fetal life, but not at the expense of the woman’s life or health.

A bill passed in 1978 limited Medicaid funding for poor women’s abortions to those performed in health-risk or life-threatening situations or in cases of incest. Immediately thereafter, Medicaid-funded abortions dropped 96% from 250,000 to 2,421 per year.

In June of 1981 Congress eliminated rape and incest as grounds for obtaining federal funds for abortions.

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Reagan-Bush Years:1980-1992

The Reagan and Bush administrations worked to restrict abortion through a number of avenues. In 1981, anti-abortion politicians tried (unsuccessfully) to introduce a “Human Life Amendment”, which would have declared all conceptions to be legal "persons" and prohibited abortions on all grounds.

In an attempt to overturn the Supreme Court’s ruling of Roe v. Wade, President Reagan appointed three conservative judges to the U.S. Supreme Court, and George Bush appointed two more, including Clarence Thomas in 1991. Federal “gag” rules, which were introduced by the Department of Health and Human Services in 1988 to prohibit federally-funded family planning clinics from discussing abortion with their patients, even if asked, met with broad public opposition and were challenged in Congress and the courts.

On July 3, 1989, the Supreme Court decided a case from Missouri called Webster v. Reproductive Health Services. The court ruled, 5-4, that states may bar public employees and public hospitals from being used for abortions. States may also require doctors to conduct tests to try to determine whether a fetus can survive outside the womb,175 although there are no known tests for determining viability. The Court also let stand the preamble to the Missouri law, which declared that life begins at conception. After the Webster ruling, many anti-abortion bills were introduced in state legislatures. Some bills supporting abortion rights were also introduced at the state level. And in 1990, hearings into a federal Freedom of Choice Act (to establish a national standard for protecting women’s access to legal abortion) began in both the House and the Senate.176

In 1992, the U.S. Supreme Court further weakened the right to abortion when the constitutionality of Pennsylvania’s abortion law was challenged. In this important decision, called Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the Supreme Court found that requirements of a mandatory 24-hour delay before an abortion, lectures by doctors against abortion, consent from parents of minors, and reporting requirements did not constitute an “undue burden” on women seeking to end an unwanted pregnancy. Such provisions were therefore constitutional, the Court held.

In Casey, the Supreme Court fell one vote short of actually overturning the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision (which made abortion a protected, fundamental right).

As for the “abortion pill” RU 486, the Food and Drug Administration issued an import ban against RU 486 in 1989.

An increase in more militant anti-abortion tactics targeting abortion clinic doctors, staff and patients began in earnest in the mid 1980’s and continues today. These tactics include clinic disruptions, blockades, vandalism, bomb threats, death threats, invasions, assaults, arsons, bombings, and kidnappings.177

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The Clinton Administration

On his second day in office, U.S. President Bill Clinton ordered the reversal of a number of abortion-related restrictions from the Reagan/Bush Administrations, including the “gag rule” banning abortion counselling at federally financed clinics.

The new Clinton administration also immediately began encouraging the manufacturer of the “abortion pill” RU 486 to make the drug available in the U.S. This encouragement resulted in the May, 1994 agreement by the company, Roussel Uclaf, to donate its patents on RU 486 to the Population Council, a non-profit organization that began testing the pill on 2,000 American women at 12 sites.

President Clinton appointed to key positions people who are unabashedly pro-choice on abortion, including Dr. M. Jocelyn Elders as U.S. Surgeon General and Judge Ruth Bader Ginsburg to the U.S. Supreme Court. The fact that Clinton’s national health-care plan would have covered most abortions drew the opposition of the U.S. Roman Catholic Bishops and the anti-abortion lobby.

President Clinton also quickly overturned the “Mexico City Policy”, a Reagan administration prohibition on aid to international family planning programs that support abortion. At the 1994 UN population conference in Cairo, the U.S. government supported improved access to contraception and safe abortion in the developing world, despite the Vatican’s condemnation. The Clinton approach also included efforts to bolster the health and survival of children and improve women’s education in order to lower fertility rates.

On May 12, 1994, the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act (FACE) was passed by the U.S. Senate. This law makes the blockading of abortion clinics a federal crime and imposes prison terms and fines on anti-abortion protesters who threaten violence or intimidate clinic workers or patients.

The law was propelled by a spate of unusually violent attacks at clinics in 1993, including several firebombings, the murder of an abortion-provider, Dr. David Gunn, at a clinic in Pensacola, Florida, and the shooting of Kansas physician Dr. George Tiller. In the summer of 1994, a second doctor and his escort were murdered in Pensacola. Anti-abortion activists were convicted in all these attacks on physicians.

On December 30, 1994, a gunman opened fire on staff and patients at two clinics in suburban Boston, killing two women on staff and wounding five other people. The next day, a clinic in Virginia was fired upon, but no one was shot. The police arrested John Salvi, an opponent of abortion, in these incidents.

Stepped up harassment and intimidation of individual doctors has lowered the number of abortion providers and made abortion less available to women in many parts of the country.

Courtesy of cbctrust.com

2. It ignores the fact that many things are not cannible, such as rocks and trees.

That could be used as seasoning. Check out recipes at Eat Hufu (http://www.eathufu.com/home.asp), they'd also work great with real human.

A human leg isn't legally a human being, nor is it an intoxicant. It also would be much meatier. Why go for inferior goods?
It's like saying why have shrimp, when you can have beef.

I bet those things are tasty non-living lumps of flesh...

snip

Not sure how that demonstrates your point...

<snip>
That says nothing about any actual law that states specifically that all foetesus are living humans.

C-. Try harder.

You're only 276 years late.

A Modest Proposal (http://www.online-literature.com/swift/947/)

2: What's wrong with cannibalism?

The main problem with cannibalism is the human form of "mad cow disease". All of the cultures that practiced cannibalism remained small because of this disease. Those that were able to reproduce weren't able to live long enough for large families. As soon as they were old enough to partake in the ritual, they developed the disease.

You're only 276 years late.

A Modest Proposal (http://www.online-literature.com/swift/947/)
Damn Irish and their time machines!
The main problem with cannibalism is the human form of "mad cow disease". All of the cultures that practiced cannibalism remained small because of this disease. Those that were able to reproduce weren't able to live long enough for large families. As soon as they were old enough to partake in the ritual, they developed the disease.
If you don’t eat the brain, intestine or spine, you’ll be fine.
Hey, that rhymes.:D

So, a fetus isn’t legally a human being. It is not an intoxicant. Thus, I conclude that fetuses may be legally eaten. I suppose they are considered medical waste, but people can buy medical waste, right? So, why can’t a curious fellow with a few hundred dollars or so to spare enjoy a nice tasty aborted fetus in the privacy of his own home?
A human heart isn't a human being either, but I wouldn't eat it. Infact I'd go to prison if I did...

A human heart isn't a human being either, but I wouldn't eat it. Infact I'd go to prison if I did...
I’m not saying I want to eat a fetus. In fact I don’t want to eat any meat at all.
I just decided that instead of continuing to freak out my classmates with this question, I would bring it before General, as is my custom.
I just don’t get WHY it’s illegal.

So, a fetus isn’t legally a human being. It is not an intoxicant. Thus, I conclude that fetuses may be legally eaten. I suppose they are considered medical waste, but people can buy medical waste, right? So, why can’t a curious fellow with a few hundred dollars or so to spare enjoy a nice tasty aborted fetus in the privacy of his own home?

I've gotta hand it to you, dude. I was really depressed, but this brought me up. :D

It's like saying why have shrimp, when you can have beef.

I bet those things are tasty non-living lumps of flesh...

Shrimp (http://www.filthylies.net/d/20050608.html), anyone?

Shrimp (http://www.filthylies.net/d/20050608.html), anyone?

LOL, that's just nasty!

I’m not saying I want to eat a fetus. In fact I don’t want to eat any meat at all.
I just decided that instead of continuing to freak out my classmates with this question, I would bring it before General, as is my custom.
I just don’t get WHY it’s illegal.
Because it's icky to eat things that come out of people, that's why.

Because it's icky to eat things that come out of people, that's why.

But there's a whole porn subculture dedicated to that!

...

So, a fetus isn’t legally a human being. It is not an intoxicant. Thus, I conclude that fetuses may be legally eaten. I suppose they are considered medical waste, but people can buy medical waste, right? So, why can’t a curious fellow with a few hundred dollars or so to spare enjoy a nice tasty aborted fetus in the privacy of his own home?

HAHAHAHAHAHA! I love this kind of subject. I don't really know why, I just think the idea of eating an aborted baby is funny.

Here's some food for though.

What if you aborted a fetus, babtized it, gave it a name, and then a proper funeral, wouldn't that be strange?

And how are babies aborted? A vaccume cleaner or something?
Yes I'm aware I shouldn't have asked that but I'm REALLY curious.

But there's a whole porn subculture dedicated to that!

...

More than one. Not to mention the mainstream "fetish" of swallowing the resulting bodily fluid of oral sex.

Can that even be called a "fetish" anymore?

Might be good with lots of ketchup. Possibly fresh horseradish.
Edit - Fresh wasabi would work quite well too.

You're only 276 years late.

A Modest Proposal (http://www.online-literature.com/swift/947/)
No no no, that is meant as a method of population control, this is just utilizing an unused resource.

Thus, I conclude that fetuses may be legally eaten.

O_o

OMG!!!! WTF!!!! is pretty much all I can think of to answer this. :eek:

But there's a whole porn subculture dedicated to that!

...

He has a point.

Still is icky though.

Well, I am sure you could eat a fetus. My question is, why in the hell would you want to?

And how are babies aborted? A vaccume cleaner or something?
Yes I'm aware I shouldn't have asked that but I'm REALLY curious.

Actually, you're not far wrong.

First they dilate the cervix with a series of instruments of increasing diameter to slowly stretch the cervical walls (and let me tell you, it's bloody unpleasant). Then once the cervix is sufficiently dilated, they insert a suction nozzle and pull the placenta away from the vaginal walls. Placenta and foetus come free and slide out. Then you bleed for up to four weeks (but no worse than an average period) while your body purges the remaining placental material.

At least, that's how they did mine. :)

But there's a whole porn subculture dedicated to that!

...
And it's icky. With the exception of swallowing cum, which is the duty of every good girlfriend...

Shrimp (http://www.filthylies.net/d/20050608.html), anyone?
That is awesome.

Perhaps it's jsut 'cuase I'm a vegetarian so I don't eat shrimp or anything like that. :P

And it's icky. With the exception of swallowing cum, which is the duty of every good girlfriend...
Obviously you've never been a girlfriend. :p

That is awesome.

Perhaps it's jsut 'cuase I'm a vegetarian so I don't eat shrimp or anything like that. :P

Nah, it really is awesome. Filthy Lies! kicks ass.

Why not? I'm sure it's nice, tender, delicious and goes well with wine.

Obviously you've never been a girlfriend. :p
Obviously

And it's icky. With the exception of swallowing cum, which is the duty of every good girlfriend...

Or boyfriend, for those of us into that.

Because they taste terrible unless you pour garlic and tobassco all over them. Then they just taste like garlic and tobassco which are available anywhere, so why not go eat some snails or ape's brains instead?

texture?:confused:

Or boyfriend, for those of us into that.
You and Fass and guzzle all the cum you want. Just don't get any on my shoes...;)

You and Fass and guzzle all the cum you want. Just don't get any on my shoes...;)

Dude.

You and Fass and guzzle all the cum you want. Just don't get any on my shoes...;)
Nah, it never comes out of leather.

Dude.

What? It's not like I don't.

What? It's not like I don't.

Hm, you have a point there.

You and Fass and guzzle all the cum you want. Just don't get any on my shoes...;)

Well, since we're speaking of fetishes,maybe I'm the type that loves sniffing out shoes.

*shudders* Sometimes I disgust myself.

What? It's not like I don't.
You do? We really need to meet in RL :D

You do?

Oh, who are you kidding with this coy act?

Jeez! This thread got so derailed. I mean come on people...

We were talking about eating aborted fetuses, not semen and shoes. Let's get back on subject....

The should actually have a specialty restuarant like the one in the comic. I bet deep fried aborted fetuses would be delicious. Or BBQ aborted fetus sandwich, slathered with A1, with garlic bread on the side...

Mmmm...

I find it so wrong that the only posting on NS I've done recently involved ranting about metal in music threads and here... the thread about eating fetuses...

Awesome...

I find it so wrong that the only posting on NS I've done recently involved ranting about metal in music threads and here... the thread about eating fetuses...

Awesome...

It's NS. What were you expecting?

Actually, you're not far wrong.

First they dilate the cervix with a series of instruments of increasing diameter to slowly stretch the cervical walls (and let me tell you, it's bloody unpleasant). Then once the cervix is sufficiently dilated, they insert a suction nozzle and pull the placenta away from the vaginal walls. Placenta and foetus come free and slide out. Then you bleed for up to four weeks (but no worse than an average period) while your body purges the remaining placental material.

At least, that's how they did mine. :)

You should be executed for murder.

Is this a good time to talk about how abortion has weakened the morals of this country?

I'm sure this topic was started mainly as a joke, in however bad taste it might be...However, based on some posts so far, some of you are actually serious to some degree about this.

I find it absolutely sad that morality has slipped so far that people would even have a conversation about a topic as insane and disgusting as this, whether people are completely serious or not.

Of course the only thing that concerns pro-aborts is that its legal; nevermind the morality of such an issue. Take a brief glance at history and one will find a wide variety of moral issues that were legal for a time, that nowadays any normal person would find reprehensible in a sane society. Yet at the time, that issue's defendents would only be concerned with their so-called rights, and go to any length to defend them. Nevermind the impact on the innocent that issue had. Slavery comes to mind...

Dismiss this as you will, but chew on this for a second...
Our nation legalized slavery for a long while, and it is a scar that will never heal. I firmly believe the Civil War was the direct result of the scourge of slavery. Of course there was the issue of states rights and all that.. But when a person or a nation violates the fundamental nature of things so violently, there are repurcussions. Whatever your religious beliefs or lack thereof, most will not deny a spiritual element to reality. Most also will not deny that wrongdoings against our spiritual nature have consequences. We all know the sufferings that drug, sex, alchohol abuse have on society, and in our own lives. Namely the harm it does to our souls in the form of depression, unhappiness, etc. And if some want to attribute all these things to chemical reactions in your brain, then so be it. "There are none so blind as those who will not see" comes to mind....
Anyway this part is getting long winded...My point is that I believe the direct consequence of our nation's slavery laws was the Civil War. Beyond the consequences of abortion we already see, I do not even want to think of what the ultimate consequence is. Perhaps our "judgement" will come when terrorists finally nuke some of our cities, or China realizes how powerful it really is. God forbid it...

This prob isn't the most ideal place for my tirade anyways, but oh well.

In our relativistic society where any opinion is considered as good as another, just consider this my opinion. :) I know there will be some flak for my conservative and 'intolerant' position... Funny how nowadays you gotta be tolerant to everyone...except to those who don't espouse the liberal secular pro-choice agenda.

Just honestly think this through...only a few decades ago, abortion wasn't legal. A year or two ago, British tv aired a guy eating an aborted fetus. This topic has people nonchalantly talking about the same thing, some joking, some serious. Tell me this: In a liberal, secular, atheistic worldview, where does the madness end? At what point and on what grounds do people say 'enough is enough'?
Give the heat for my pro-life views...but i'd like some serious answers to my last question there.
Dan

Slavery comes to mind...

It's funny you should say that. I keep thinking that someday we're all going to look back on abortion the way most people today look back at slavery. Remember that at the time, freeing the slaves wasn't a real popular decission with alot of Americans.

Jeez! This thread got so derailed. I mean come on people...

We were talking about eating aborted fetuses, not semen and shoes. Let's get back on subject....<snip>Well considering I wear aborted foetuses for socks...

I'm sure this topic was started mainly as a joke, in however bad taste it might be...However, based on some posts so far, some of you are actually serious to some degree about this.

I find it absolutely sad that morality has slipped so far that people would even have a conversation about a topic as insane and disgusting as this, whether people are completely serious or not.

Of course the only thing that concerns pro-aborts is that its legal; nevermind the morality of such an issue. Take a brief glance at history and one will find a wide variety of moral issues that were legal for a time, that nowadays any normal person would find reprehensible in a sane society. Yet at the time, that issue's defendents would only be concerned with their so-called rights, and go to any length to defend them. Nevermind the impact on the innocent that issue had. Slavery comes to mind...

Dismiss this as you will, but chew on this for a second...
Our nation legalized slavery for a long while, and it is a scar that will never heal. I firmly believe the Civil War was the direct result of the scourge of slavery. Of course there was the issue of states rights and all that.. But when a person or a nation violates the fundamental nature of things so violently, there are repurcussions. Whatever your religious beliefs or lack thereof, most will not deny a spiritual element to reality. Most also will not deny that wrongdoings against our spiritual nature have consequences. We all know the sufferings that drug, sex, alchohol abuse have on society, and in our own lives. Namely the harm it does to our souls in the form of depression, unhappiness, etc. And if some want to attribute all these things to chemical reactions in your brain, then so be it. "There are none so blind as those who will not see" comes to mind....
Anyway this part is getting long winded...My point is that I believe the direct consequence of our nation's slavery laws was the Civil War. Beyond the consequences of abortion we already see, I do not even want to think of what the ultimate consequence is. Perhaps our "judgement" will come when terrorists finally nuke some of our cities, or China realizes how powerful it really is. God forbid it...

This prob isn't the most ideal place for my tirade anyways, but oh well.

In our relativistic society where any opinion is considered as good as another, just consider this my opinion. :) I know there will be some flak for my conservative and 'intolerant' position... Funny how nowadays you gotta be tolerant to everyone...except to those who don't espouse the liberal secular pro-choice agenda.

Just honestly think this through...only a few decades ago, abortion wasn't legal. A year or two ago, British tv aired a guy eating an aborted fetus. This topic has people nonchalantly talking about the same thing, some joking, some serious. Tell me this: In a liberal, secular, atheistic worldview, where does the madness end? At what point and on what grounds do people say 'enough is enough'?
Give the heat for my pro-life views...but i'd like some serious answers to my last question there.
Dan
I like it how, you assume that "liberal secular pro-choice agenda" perpetuates this thread. Funny you say that, when I generally tend to severely dislike the pie-in-the-sky-everything-can-be-good-and-equal American liberal agendas. I'd call myself more of a conservative. However, I think religion does not belong in government at all, and it should not reflect the laws that are imposed on this country.

This whole "spiritualism" should in no way be enforced by government at all. It has to be a personal choice. Thats all there is it to it.

America is a modern country with a relatively high degree of individual freedoms and equal civil rights. There's no need for a Protestant Christian mentality to be exerted on the entire population. So when does this madness end? The only madness I see, is that we're still depending too much on a religious mentality in our government. Why should the government care if someone decides to consume a fetus, it's not harming anyone--the fetus was never alive. It is not psychologically developed at that point. The only madness I see is that our government is limiting stem cell research because of "the sanctity of human life", which is truly perplexing considering the stem cells aren't even a fetus yet... So let people die off disease, because those cells that can be used to cure medical illnesses are holy.