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Woman, 37, accused of molesting her 15-year-old husband

A 37-year old woman has been charged with child molestation for allegedly having sexual relationship with a 15-year old boy, whom she married last week.
The woman also is allegedly pregnant with the boy's child, though paternity hasn't yet been determined, his grandmother and guardian told the Associated Press on Monday.
Lisa Lynnette Clark remained in custody monday.
District Attorney Lee Darragh said Georgia law on child molestation says that a person under 16 legally cannon consent to a sexual act.



all I have to say is that I've laughed so hard about this article when I read it. I've heard from so many southerners that talk about how television shows and stereotypes ruin what the south is really about, and then you hear about things like this, and all I can say is.......wow

How can a womand rape a man(even it is a child?)

But yeah, it's pretty weird :p

How can a womand rape a man(even it is a child?)

But yeah, it's pretty weird :p

in this context just having sex with her husband was sexual molestation, because I guess he was a year too young.

15 year old gets you in jail, 16 year old gets you a pat on the back and a smile.;)

*attempts to wrap head around this*

So...let me get this straight...

In Georgia, it is apparently legal to marry a 15 year old, but it's illegal to have sex with him/her.

OW!!!! I think I sprained something!! *holds head* :(

Statutory rape: Sexual intercourse or interference with a minor.

Doesn't matter if the act(s) was (were) consensual or not, since by law such acts cannot truly be consensual (since minors, by law, have not the capacity to make such decisions), so long as one party was underage, it's rape.

Mind, if you can marry someone, technically they are of age, so, yeah...

How can a womand rape a man(even it is a child?)

But yeah, it's pretty weird :p
it's called 'statutory rape'. even if he gives his consent, he's too young to so it counts as rape. how is it still possible for a 15 year old to get married at all? that's just madness.

some Laws are fucked up.

but no...its not only in the US.

A Norwegian woman was convicted of rape last week...and I swear I am not making this up: While her boyfriend was sleeping, she was ...ahem....performing oral sex on him. He woke and for some reason felt violated, decided to drag her to court, probably ruining the sexlives of untold numbers of Norwegian men in the process.

A Norwegian woman was convicted of rape last week...and I swear I am not making this up: While her boyfriend was sleeping, she was ...ahem....performing oral sex on him. He woke and for some reason felt violated, decided to drag her to court, probably ruining the sexlives of untold numbers of Norwegian men in the process.
maybe he was annoyed at not being awake to fully enjoy it?....:p

So... wait...

... You know, I was going to ask all sorts of questions, but there really is so much wrong with that article, I'll limit it to a base 4. Firstly, a 22 year age difference; how on earth does romance like that work? Secondly, he can legally consent to marriage at that age, but not to something that is a natural consequence of it? Thirdly, a married man doesn't necessarily have the legal right to have sex with his wife? Fourthly, the state is allowed to determine a child's decisions on this matter?

A Norwegian woman was convicted of rape last week...and I swear I am not making this up: While her boyfriend was sleeping, she was ...ahem....performing oral sex on him. He woke and for some reason felt violated, decided to drag her to court, probably ruining the sexlives of untold numbers of Norwegian men in the process.


Bloody hell! however she dident ask him....still puzzles me how a 15 yr old marries a 37 yr old..i've gone out with a 20 yr old but i'm 17:D

So... wait...

... You know, I was going to ask all sorts of questions, but there really is so much wrong with that article, I'll limit it to a base 4. Firstly, a 22 year age difference; how on earth does romance like that work? Secondly, he can legally consent to marriage at that age, but not to something that is a natural consequence of it? Thirdly, a married man doesn't necessarily have the legal right to have sex with his wife? Fourthly, the state is allowed to determine a child's decisions on this matter?
yeah, i know its frickin stupid. the ages of consent to marry and to consumate said marriage should be the same, just so i don't have to get a headache.

*attempts to wrap head around this*

So...let me get this straight...

In Georgia, it is apparently legal to marry a 15 year old, but it's illegal to have sex with him/her.

OW!!!! I think I sprained something!! *holds head* :(

Not quite correct. It is illegal to marry someone underage without parental consent except in the case of pregnancy, in which case parental consent is not required. Because the woman is pregnant, they didn't have to get the boy's parents' permission. Thus, she got pregnant, then they got married, and now they probably can't prosecute her for the statutory rape that occurred before the marriage.

Oh that poor 15 year old *cough*. See things like this happen and people still criticise Jerry Springer.

*attempts to wrap head around this*

So...let me get this straight...

In Georgia, it is apparently legal to marry a 15 year old, but it's illegal to have sex with him/her.

OW!!!! I think I sprained something!! *holds head* :(

Yes, I set this next to the Finnish law, where it is perfectly legal to sell sex (Prostitution); but buying it is illegal. So at least the concept of Legislated Absurdity is not confined to our side of the pond.

Why they have a law which enables the consenual union of a 15 year old, but another which renders illegal consensual sex with the same; is far beyond this Southerners mind.

There is something wrong with this story (and I mean beyond the obvious things that you have all pointed out). In Georgia, you can get married at 16 with parental consent. Not 15. Which means there is no way they were legally married in Georgia. A 15-year-old can marry in Mississippi or Alabama, but only with parental consent. (Scary side note, so long as there is parental consent, an adult can marry an infant in Mississippi--there's no age limit.)

Now, in Georgia the actual statute regarding statutory rape is:

OCGA 16-6-3.
(a) A person commits the offense of statutory rape when he or she engages in sexual intercourse with any person under the age of 16 years and not his or her spouse, provided that no conviction shall be had for this offense on the unsupported testimony of the victim.
(b) A person convicted of the offense of statutory rape shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than 20 years; provided, however, that if the person so convicted is 21 years of age or older, such person shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than ten nor more than 20 years; provided, further, that if the victim is 14 or 15 years of age and the person so convicted is no more than three years older than the victim, such person shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

So as long as they were legally married somewhere, this lady can't be charged with statutory rape in Georgia. Of course, if this kid's guardian turned her in, it was probably because they didn't consent to a marriage. And that could be really interesting!

Just in case you're wondering, I live in Georgia (but am a Yankee by birth) and used to work with a rape counseling center. Hence, why I know so much about Georgia's rape laws.

Why they have a law which enables the consenual union of a 15 year old, but another which renders illegal consensual sex with the same; is far beyond this Southerners mind.

Once again, nobody is freaking listening!!

The ONLY reason these two were able to get married without consent from the boy's parents the fact that the woman is pregnant. A large number of states have such laws - allowing a minor to consent to marriage when a pregnancy is involved.

There is something wrong with this story (and I mean beyond the obvious things that you have all pointed out). In Georgia, you can get married at 16 with parental consent. Not 15. Which means there is no way they were legally married in Georgia.

Keep checking the laws my dear, you will find that GA law has an exception in the case of a pregnancy.

What if a 15 year old rapes someone older than him? Does the older woman then get charged with statutory rape?

Those damn american prudes need to stay out of other people's bedrooms/business!!! :mad:

I hate america. :gundge:

A Norwegian woman was convicted of rape last week...and I swear I am not making this up: While her boyfriend was sleeping, she was ...ahem....performing oral sex on him. He woke and for some reason felt violated, decided to drag her to court, probably ruining the sexlives of untold numbers of Norwegian men in the process.

All right, men, your assignment for tonight is to go home and tell your wife/girlfriend/significant other/favorite sheep that, should she desire to give you a blow job while you are sleeping, you consent to it.

If you have none of the above, just find an attractive woman and tell her that. Who knows, you might get lucky.

:p

What if a 15 year old rapes someone older than him? Does the older woman then get charged with statutory rape?well if she was too drunk to say yes....he technically raped her...

..and if she woke up during the intercourse..at one point she regained conscience...at that very instant she was technically raping him...

send them both to Jail :D
love the judicial system :mp5: :mp5: :sniper:

*frolics about* I just must say. It's a lovely world we live in. There's so much morally, culturally, and physically wrong with that story. Couldn't she be charged with the things she did BEFORE they were married? Or did their marriage completely abolish all the wrongs she commited into a lump of nothing? But I must also say that stories like these make me glad to be an American. Really, it's kind of fun to live in a country with such screwed up laws and ideas as that.


:fluffle: HAHA Fluffle O.o

well if she was too drunk to say yes....he technically raped her...

..and if she woke up during the intercourse..at one point she regained conscience...at that very instant she was technically raping him...

send them both to Jail :D
love the judicial system :mp5: :mp5: :sniper:

MANDY: Well, I suppose I should have told you a long time ago, but...

BRIAN: What?

MANDY: Well, Brian,... your father isn't Mr. Cohen.

BRIAN: I never thought he was.

MANDY: Now, none of your cheek! He was a Roman, Brian. He was a centurion in the Roman army.

BRIAN: You mean... you were raped?

MANDY: Well, at first, yes.

MANDY: His name was Naughteous Maximus. Promised me the known world, he did...as much gold as I could eat...so you just be careful what you say about the Romans, Brian, 'cause you're one of 'em!

BRIAN: I am NOT a Roman! I'm Jewish! I'm Yid, a hook-nose, a Kike, a Heebie -- I'm a Dead Sea Pedestrian and I'm proud of it!

Great film.

Here's a thought -- has anyone considered just how much of an attraction defecit this woman must possess to make her seek out rickets-ridden ephebes for her orgasms? Considering the earlier pedophile thread, is this woman, by any definition, a pedophile/pederast?

What if a 15 year old rapes someone older than him? Does the older woman then get charged with statutory rape?

No, the 15-year old will get charged with rape. He may even be charged as an adult.

Couldn't she be charged with the things she did BEFORE they were married? Or did their marriage completely abolish all the wrongs she commited into a lump of nothing?

I don't think anyone is clear on this. There was a recent case somewhere out in the midwest where a 20-something married a 13-year old who was pregnant (went to Kansas to do it, with her parents' permission). The state is trying to charge him with statutory rape for his actions prior to the marriage, but no one seems to be sure if that will hold up.

If a prosecutor still wants to go after this woman for her actions prior to the marriage, he might be able to. But her defense will probably argue things like, "She is now married," "She did the responsible thing by marrying him," "Her child needs her now," etc.

*attempts to wrap head around this*

So...let me get this straight...

In Georgia, it is apparently legal to marry a 15 year old, but it's illegal to have sex with him/her.

OW!!!! I think I sprained something!! *holds head* :(
Agreed my brain hurts too

LUCKY. 15...year old..

DAMMIT! Some guys have all the luck. :(

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I don't think anyone is clear on this. There was a recent case somewhere out in the midwest where a 20-something married a 13-year old who was pregnant (went to Kansas to do it, with her parents' permission). The state is trying to charge him with statutory rape for his actions prior to the marriage, but no one seems to be sure if that will hold up.

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I think that was here in Nebraska, do you know what happened with that haven't seen anything in the paper for awhile.

Statutory rape: Sexual intercourse or interference with a minor.

Doesn't matter if the act(s) was (were) consensual or not, since by law such acts cannot truly be consensual (since minors, by law, have not the capacity to make such decisions), so long as one party was underage, it's rape.

Mind, if you can marry someone, technically they are of age, so, yeah...
Basicly by last if you are a day below the legal limit you are getting taken advantage of but if you wait one day you automaticly are mature enough to make that decision.
You know in some countries 13 is the legal age. (And in one or two countries 11) And we think 15 is bad.

I think that was here in Nebraska, do you know what happened with that haven't seen anything in the paper for awhile.

Last I read, the DA was still trying to push to prosecute the guy on statutory rape, as they have plenty of evidence (like, you know, the baby) to prove it happened prior to the marriage (when she was like 12!!!!). People were whining that he shouldn't try to put the "poor guy" in jail because he has a child and 13-year old wife to take care of now.

A Norwegian woman was convicted of rape last week...and I swear I am not making this up: While her boyfriend was sleeping, she was ...ahem....performing oral sex on him. He woke and for some reason felt violated, decided to drag her to court, probably ruining the sexlives of untold numbers of Norwegian men in the process.Well to be fair, the guy wasn't her boyfriend but her boyfriend's friend, so it's not quite as crazy as it seemed.

Basicly by last if you are a day below the legal limit you are getting taken advantage of but if you wait one day you automaticly are mature enough to make that decision.
You know in some countries 13 is the legal age. (And in one or two countries 11) And we think 15 is bad.

Yep, I heard a baby raper try and use that as his defense in his trial once. The judge told him to sit down, shut up and immediatly declared him incompetent to aid in his own defense. He was packed off to a mental facility for a 90 day evaluation where he currently resides indefinately. Apparently that is a point of order that carries little weight.

this wouldnt happen where i live in Canada. Our age of consent is 14 however its easy enough to get someone charged on corruption of a minor for having sex with someone under the age of 16, after 16 you have to prove you coerced em with booze, drugs or some other means ie ferrari lol. But this is why in canada we have the age of consent of 14, so we dont label people pedophiles who arent, as it is a very common thing for 15-16 year old girls to masquerade as adults to get the man they want [bars let them in all the time everywhere not just in canada] and 15-16 year old boys well most of them would do their teacher if offered so lol it makes sense. Stupid law they should let the woman go, its just like that 14 year old that had sex with his teacher got her pregnant she went to jail for 4 years then he married her. Same idea its stupidity in itself.
To be blunt we cannot erase 1 million years of evolution, the sweet 16 was originally the birthday before the girl got married and pregnant, in some cultures its a sweet 15. This is why we have an age of consent of 14, 1 million years of older males with younger females, or vice versa has had a serious and drastic effect on our psyche

I've been half-a$$ follwing this story for a few weeks.

Here's a few things that may clear it up for everyone:

1. In Georgia, you are an adult at 17, for all general intents and purposes.

2. In most US States, you are essentially emancipated once you are legally married (although this doesn't give you the freedom to buy such things as booze or cigarettes). What this means is that amongst other things, yes, once you are legally married, you can legally have sex with your spouse.

3. I can't remember the specifics for Georgia, but in some states, a 15-year-old can legally wed without parental consent **IF** a pregnancy is involved.

4. The acts of statutory rape that were committed occurred WELL before the "marriage", and therefore are / were illegal.

5. In many US states, statutory rape laws differ in how they interpret actions between an adult male with younger female, versus adult female with younger male. (For example, in Alabama, a man commits stat rape - Rape 2 - but a woman is generally charged with sexual abuse of a minor, or sexual misconduct, depending on the circumstances). Odds are good that because of the age difference, she's likely being charged with felony sexual abuse of a minor, not actual Rape 2 (stat rape).

So what you have here is a case where this woman was screwing one of her students, ended up pregnant and in legal trouble, and went and married the kid in an effort to BLOCK the legal issues. I can - off the top of my head - think of a precedent for this tactic actually working within recent years, but it was in a different state, and I believe the circumstances were a bit different. My best prediction is that it will go the same way it did with that LeTourneau chick in the Northwest.

My two cents, crushed by inflation. :headbang:

LUCKY. 15...year old..

DAMMIT! Some guys have all the luck. :(
I know. :(

it sucks. :( (no pun intended)

Well to be fair, the guy wasn't her boyfriend but her boyfriend's friend, so it's not quite as crazy as it seemed.

That makes so much more sense now.

However, if a husband starts having sex with his wife while she's asleep is that rape? What if she wakes up and tells him to leave her alone? What if she doesn't wake up?

It has previously been established in various North American courts of law that marriage (or other relationship) does not equal automatic consent to sex. Doesn't that apply to men as well as women?

Is it so hard to believe that some men (maybe even all men) don't want sexual contact all the time? Or do they only reject "fat chicks"?

It has previously been established in various North American courts of law that marriage (or other relationship) does not equal automatic consent to sex. Doesn't that apply to men as well as women?



It is true that various North American courts have established that marriage does not automatically equal consent to sex.

However, *many* North American courts DO recognize that a legal marriage includes a reasonable expectation of, and **right** to, sexual relations with one's spouse. (I've always interpreted this as meaning I can tell my husband to screw off when I'm having really bad cramps, but even if I'm really mad at him I don't have the right to tell him "I have a headache" every single night - not that I would, but you get the idea...)

This is part of why it is possible to get divorces and legal anullments in situations where a couple marries, and then it turns out one of them has a sexual dysfunction such as impotence or frigidity.

This brings me up to four cents total, and that inflation is still killing me. :headbang:

*attempts to wrap head around this*

So...let me get this straight...

In Georgia, it is apparently legal to marry a 15 year old, but it's illegal to have sex with him/her.

OW!!!! I think I sprained something!! *holds head* :(

cos your cousins wont tell the police