NationStates Jolt Archive


US still owns the interweb.

Lacadaemon
16-11-2005, 17:53
The fight over whether or not the US should rule the interweb has been postponed. I am glad. Europeans talk a big game about how much "censorship" there is in the US, but at the end of the day, the US does not lock people up for holding and expressing opinions. Therefore I am happy that the US is still the king of the interweb.

Robert Mugabe complained about it apparently. But he can fuck off and die.

Linky (http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=14504&hed=US+Retains+Internet+Control)
UpwardThrust
16-11-2005, 17:55
The US does not controll the root either

A private company does
DrunkenDove
16-11-2005, 17:55
It does, however, veto the creation of an .xxx domain for some reason. I'd prefer if no one was in charge.

“Contrary to many published reports, the E.U. has not advocated a U.N.-controlled system,” said Michael Geist, a law professor at the University of Ottawa and a frequent commentator on Internet issues. “Rather, it has called for the creation of a new forum built on existing structures.”

This might be the best option.
Lotus Puppy
17-11-2005, 03:23
I read an article about this the other day. I was very surprised to find out that there was some controlling authority of the web. Anyhow, up until 1998, the web was administered, amazingly, by one professor at Stanford University. The web, as we all know, started as a military project, and ultimate control never left the government until that year. After intense negotiations, which actually made this professor die from a heart attack, the International Organization of Standards (ISO) was created. It was a semi-private non-profit organization, but it has flaws. They answer to the Attorney General of California, and the web is far too big for him to handle, and should not be his responsibility to police. Similarly, the web has been used by the US as a political tool. Certain states, such as Iran, have been threatened before to have their country code (.ir) removed, denying them acsess to the web.
International oversight of some nature is needed, but not the type Syria and Zimbabwe demand, states that restrict the internet to their own people. This was tried by the USSR at UNESCO, where they proposed to control the media of developing nations. That resulted in many nations boycotting the group. I say that we need a treaty that establishes loose controls, dealing only with web addresses and IPs and the like, and eliminating country codes. That way, the internet can forever be the free and decentralized system it was always meant to be.
Falhaar2
17-11-2005, 03:32
I read an article about this the other day. I was very surprised to find out that there was some controlling authority of the web. Anyhow, up until 1998, the web was administered, amazingly, by one professor at Stanford University. The web, as we all know, started as a military project, and ultimate control never left the government until that year. After intense negotiations, which actually made this professor die from a heart attack, the International Organization of Standards (ISO) was created. It was a semi-private non-profit organization, but it has flaws. They answer to the Attorney General of California, and the web is far too big for him to handle, and should not be his responsibility to police. Similarly, the web has been used by the US as a political tool. Certain states, such as Iran, have been threatened before to have their country code (.ir) removed, denying them acsess to the web.
International oversight of some nature is needed, but not the type Syria and Zimbabwe demand, states that restrict the internet to their own people. This was tried by the USSR at UNESCO, where they proposed to control the media of developing nations. That resulted in many nations boycotting the group. I say that we need a treaty that establishes loose controls, dealing only with web addresses and IPs and the like, and eliminating country codes. That way, the internet can forever be the free and decentralized system it was always meant to be. I agree with Lotus Puppy?! WTF? :eek:
Lotus Puppy
17-11-2005, 03:38
I agree with Lotus Puppy?! WTF? :eek:
Behold! The end is at hand.:)
Bunnyducks
17-11-2005, 03:40
Control... tee-hee...
UpwardThrust
17-11-2005, 03:52
I read an article about this the other day. I was very surprised to find out that there was some controlling authority of the web. Anyhow, up until 1998, the web was administered, amazingly, by one professor at Stanford University. The web, as we all know, started as a military project, and ultimate control never left the government until that year. After intense negotiations, which actually made this professor die from a heart attack, the International Organization of Standards (ISO) was created. It was a semi-private non-profit organization, but it has flaws. They answer to the Attorney General of California, and the web is far too big for him to handle, and should not be his responsibility to police. Similarly, the web has been used by the US as a political tool. Certain states, such as Iran, have been threatened before to have their country code (.ir) removed, denying them acsess to the web.
International oversight of some nature is needed, but not the type Syria and Zimbabwe demand, states that restrict the internet to their own people. This was tried by the USSR at UNESCO, where they proposed to control the media of developing nations. That resulted in many nations boycotting the group. I say that we need a treaty that establishes loose controls, dealing only with web addresses and IPs and the like, and eliminating country codes. That way, the internet can forever be the free and decentralized system it was always meant to be.
They have to implement IPV6 one of these days (compleatly) and move to a regional distrobution rather then a heirerarchtical

That will do a lot to move it out to the rest of the world
Grampus
17-11-2005, 04:02
The web, as we all know, started as a military project, and ultimate control never left the government until that year.

Nope. The internet started as a military project. Tim Berners-Lee was not emoployed in an military capacity when he invented the web.
UpwardThrust
17-11-2005, 04:05
Nope. The internet started as a military project. Tim Berners-Lee was not emoployed in an military capacity when he invented the web.
Yeah so many people confuse the internet with the web
Undelia
17-11-2005, 04:06
Pfft. The US doesn’t own the interweb.
I PWN TEH INTERNET WIT MY MAD HTML SKILZ!!!!11!!!!11
Sick Nightmares
17-11-2005, 04:32
Pfft. The US doesn’t own the interweb.
I PWN TEH INTERNET WIT MY MAD HTML SKILZ!!!!11!!!!11
*unplugs Undelias computer and laughs hysterically*
Rotovia-
17-11-2005, 04:39
Internet registeration for all DNS related issues are handled by ICANN. The US can claim own your mother for all I care.
Sick Nightmares
17-11-2005, 04:41
Internet registeration for all DNS related issues are handled by ICANN. The US can claim own your mother for all I care.
My internet ownership can kick your internet ownerships ass!

And I may not own your mother, but could you please remind her I want my money.