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Australian terror suspects were told by their spiritual leader/brainwasher to ask permission from their parents before waging jihad. It's unknown what the parent's response was. If somehow the authorities find out that the parents gave permission I hope that the whole family gets life in prison.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17246681-36596,00.html?from=newsquote1

It's interesting to hear that they have to "ask permission" from anyone.

It's interesting to hear that they have to "ask permission" from anyone.
It would be more interesting to find out how many terrorists are instructed to ask permission and how often that permission is granted. It might justify the Israeli idea of bulldozing the terrorist family's home.

Son: "Dad, can I go Jihad?"

Dad: "Sure son, just be home by 10:00"

*Mother walks in*

Mother:"Azir, I told you no Jihad untill you finish your Homework!"

Son:"Ohhhh, but mom, today's the suicide bomber special at Mohammed Burger!"

Mother: "You heard me young man!"

It would be more interesting to find out how many terrorists are instructed to ask permission and how often that permission is granted. It might justify the Israeli idea of bulldozing the terrorist family's home.

I think that idea came out of the rewards they paid families for having a relative be a suicide bomber.

Kind of takes the economic advantage away when you get some cash for your son blowing up, and then you lose your house.

A really depraved calculus, really. Who is more evil - the people who pay others to sacrifice their kids for a cause they believe in only if there's the promise of cash payment, or the people who punish them by bulldozing their house afterwards. Or the parents themselves?

They're odd types, our new enemy.

Of course, a day in the life of the Jihaad Family can take a strange turn.

When asked why she put on that explosive belt to blow up the hotel in Jordan the woman gave this answer (among others):

"You see, I was too tired to cook dinner because, the kids had been beastly all day, when my stupid husband says - 'Ha all you have to do is watch the Children and Cook! If you think it's so bad, you should try MY job!' - and well, you know the rest... :p

Australian terror suspects were told by their spiritual leader/brainwasher to ask permission from their parents before waging jihad. It's unknown what the parent's response was. If somehow the authorities find out that the parents gave permission I hope that the whole family gets life in prison.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17246681-36596,00.html?from=newsquote1
Life in prison for what?

Life in prison for what?
Conspiracy to commit terrorist acts.

If you know they're going to do it, and give your blessing, and don't tell the authorities, it's conspiracy.

What terrorist acts?

What terrorist acts?

The ones stated in the article.

What terrorist acts?
Evidently, the little ones were planning to commit some, and had quite a few things that are illegal to possess under Australian law.

The young men themselves are guilty of conspiring - as seen below. If their parents knew, they are guilty as well.

I don't know about Australian law, but in the US, conspiracy is just as good for sending you up the river as the simple act. Sometimes better.

A bugged conversation between the men alleged to have taken place on March 24 had them talking about training, running, and getting fit and healthy to "shoot some motherf..kers" on the order from Allah.

The police brief also alleged that they seized from Mr Touma's home video cassettes titled Are you ready to die?, and Sheik Osama's training course.

It is alleged that the police also seized weapons including a Glock pistol, a pump-action shotgun and more than 20 boxes of ammunition including magazines for a rifle, shotgun shells, pistol cartridge packs and boxes of .22 and .40 calibre bullets.

The list of seized items also includes canisters containing 165 railway detonators and batteries.

They also found a silver and black replica pistol and plastic boxes filled with gunpowder.

What terrorist acts?
LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA I can't Hear You! Terroristim isn't real! Jihaad is a fabrication! LA-LA-LA-LA-LA :rolleyes:

The ones stated in the article.

They had a big pile of guns and said that they wanted to "kill some motherfucker in the name of Allah"

I'm sure there's more. That seems relatively minor. I doubt the police would have even got permission to bug the place if they just said "There's two Muslims with a pile of guns. Can we bug them now?"

Life in prison for what?
For knowing that their kids were planning terrorist attacks, giving their permission, and not alerting the authorities.

They had a big pile of guns and said that they wanted to "kill some motherfucker in the name of Allah"

I'm sure there's more. That seems relativly minor. I doubt the police would have even got permission to bug the place if they just said "There's two muslims with a pile of guns. Can we bug them now?"

The tape, "Sheik Osama's Training Course" didn't help.

The tape, "Sheik Osama's Training Course" didn't help.

Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "go for the burn". I'd like to see both of them.

It would be more interesting to find out how many terrorists are instructed to ask permission and how often that permission is granted. It might justify the Israeli idea of bulldozing the terrorist family's home.
It could be just as interesting to find out how many would-be American servicemen ask permission of their parents before signing up and how often that permission is granted. It might justify the Native American idea of burning the serviceman's family's home and scalping his relatives.

:rolleyes:

It could be just as interesting to find out how many would-be American servicemen ask permission of their parents before signing up and how often that permission is granted. It might justify the Native American idea of burning the serviceman's family's home and scalping his relatives.

:rolleyes:
Ok, terrorists are not soldiers. Soldiers target armed combatants. Terrorists target civilians.

What do the Native Americans have to do with this?

Why am I even responding to you?

*sigh* I would ask my parents for permission before starting another Crusade, but knowing them the answer would be "no" and they would send me to a therapist.

It could be just as interesting to find out how many would-be American servicemen ask permission of their parents before signing up and how often that permission is granted. It might justify the Native American idea of burning the serviceman's family's home and scalping his relatives.

:rolleyes:

Most soldiers I enlisted with (including myself) never asked their parents. But that's a small sample. Most parents were shocked to find out that their son or daughter had left town and turned up in the Army.

Ok, terrorists are not soldiers. Soldiers target armed combatants. Terrorists target civilians.

What do the Native Americans have to do with this?

Why am I even responding to you?
Oh just underscoring that everything is relative, DCD. Everything is relative. Your indignant suppositions are equalled by the indignant suppositions of other people from other places.

And hold just as little water.

Why did you respond? 'Cause you love the attention, good or bad.

It could be just as interesting to find out how many would-be American servicemen ask permission of their parents before signing up and how often that permission is granted.While this was a trollish-in-nature post, I'll partially dignify it with this response: Not all that many. Sure, most parents wind up approving of, or at least accepting, their children's choice to join the service, but relatively few new accessions are under the age of majority, and thus require no permission but their own.

In the US, a new accession must be at least over the age of 17 when they raise their hand and swear the Oath. That doesn't mean 17 on they day they ship out, but on the day they agree to go in the first place.


Sucker Punch,
former Naval Recruiter.

While that was a trollish-in-nature post, I'll partially dignify it with a response.
Gosh I feel so special now...

Gosh I feel so special now...
Now you know how I feel...;)

It could be just as interesting to find out how many would-be American servicemen ask permission of their parents before signing up and how often that permission is granted. It might justify the Native American idea of burning the serviceman's family's home and scalping his relatives.

:rolleyes:
did you know the british were the first to take scalps? they had a price list based on which tribe the scalp came from and all. the natives were just retaliating in kind.

if my (hypothetical) kids asked permission to blow stuff up i'd probably think they were joking.

did you know the british were the first to take scalps? they had a price list based on which tribe the scalp came from and all. the natives were just retaliating in kind.

if my (hypothetical) kids asked permission to blow stuff up i'd probably think they were joking.
Ahhh, no... I did not know that. Did you know I was being a sarcastic asshat?

Ahhh, no... I did not know that. Did you know I was being a sarcastic asshat?
oh, i knew. i just like saying that fact, no matter who implied it before me. i got your point, i agree with you, it's no reason to make fun of my hat. your just jealous because your hat isn't an ass.