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Jealousy

Cabra West
16-11-2005, 10:24
Does anybody know a cure for it?
The Similized world
16-11-2005, 10:29
Does anybody know a cure for it?
Staggering amounts of Wyborroa.
That, or going abroard for a year or two.
Santa Barbara
16-11-2005, 10:30
Does anybody know a cure for it?

Realizing that you don't own anyone, that we all die anyway, and having sex with lots of different women generally helps.
Mariehamn
16-11-2005, 10:32
Murder.
That, or going abroard for a year or two.
Cabra West
16-11-2005, 10:38
Well, I haven't tried murder yet, but the rest don't really work... :(
The Similized world
16-11-2005, 10:39
Well, I haven't tried murder yet, but the rest don't really work... :(
Cabra, come visit me. I promise I'll make both the options I presented work ;)
Hullepupp
16-11-2005, 10:40
define it... do you really mean this ??? or do you mean enviousness or distrust ...
The best way is to cure jealousy is : trust your partner, that he tell you the truth...
Hullepupp
16-11-2005, 10:42
or visit me...not The Similized world ...;-)

:fluffle:
Funk Jazz
16-11-2005, 10:42
What are you jealous of? I mean, what's the situation?
Hullepupp
16-11-2005, 10:47
What are you jealous of? I mean, what's the situation?


yes tell us ......
Cabra West
16-11-2005, 10:48
*lol

Wow... two invitations to visit people abroad? I should have opened that thread a whole lot sooner. :D
Mariehamn
16-11-2005, 10:50
Wow... two invitations to visit people abroad? I should have opened that thread a whole lot sooner. :D
Visit me, and we can plot murder together under the midnight sun! :p
Hullepupp
16-11-2005, 10:51
you can visit The Similized world on 30.11.05 ... at this date i have no time ... ;)
Bjornoya
16-11-2005, 10:51
Does anybody know a cure for it?

Cry. Seriously, keep crying until you become angry. Then it goes away.
Funk Jazz
16-11-2005, 10:54
Visit me, and we can plot murder together under the midnight sun! :p

mm.. I can help you there. I have someone in mind.. a jealous ex.. how suitable.
Cabra West
16-11-2005, 10:55
Cry. Seriously, keep crying until you become angry. Then it goes away.

That somehow makes sense... it's just not bad enough yet to make me cry. Only sometimes.
Harlesburg
16-11-2005, 10:55
Jealousy is a precious thing do not waste it.
Get revenge on the person who shunned you.
I am Jealous 24/7 baby three sixty five.
Cabra West
16-11-2005, 10:56
Jealousy is a precious thing do not waste it.
Get revenge on the person who shunned you.
I am Jealous 24/7 baby three sixty five.

THAT explains a lot :D :p
Hullepupp
16-11-2005, 10:57
Cry. Seriously, keep crying until you become angry. Then it goes away.

no I think then you are just angry...the jealousy has not gone ... Maybe you can pay it back to the one ...
Cabra West
16-11-2005, 10:57
Visit me, and we can plot murder together under the midnight sun! :p

You have midnight sun in winter? How cool is that! ;)
Hullepupp
16-11-2005, 10:59
and again i agree with Harlesburg ;)
The Similized world
16-11-2005, 10:59
Hahaha! Somehow I doubt Hullepupp can help you though. Seems like s/he's a tiny bit jealous of my offer :p

Seriously though, if you're jealous, then get the away. You wouldn't be if you trusted (whomever), so get away. Get drunk. Get a new job. Move to another state/country, and fall in love with someone who's worth the effort.
Harlesburg
16-11-2005, 11:02
THAT explains a lot :D :p
It does dosent it.
Hullepupp
16-11-2005, 11:02
correct ....
Harlesburg
16-11-2005, 11:04
and again i agree with Harlesburg ;)
Mwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I've found myself a niche market.
Cabra West
16-11-2005, 11:05
Hahaha! Somehow I doubt Hullepupp can help you though. Seems like s/he's a tiny bit jealous of my offer :p

Seriously though, if you're jealous, then get the away. You wouldn't be if you trusted (whomever), so get away. Get drunk. Get a new job. Move to another state/country, and fall in love with someone who's worth the effort.

Emotions are complicated... I'm jealous, but that doesn't mean I want to cut all contact with the person.
I used to trust him, maybe that's just why this is so hard now.
Some days I just hate life...
Hullepupp
16-11-2005, 11:06
*lol
Hullepupp
16-11-2005, 11:07
Emotions are complicated... I'm jealous, but that doesn't mean I want to cut all contact with the person.
I used to trust him, maybe that's just why this is so hard now.
Some days I just hate life...


so what has he/she done , that puts you in the situation ?
Laerod
16-11-2005, 11:08
Does anybody know a cure for it?There's a cure for it? Not likely. Deciding very hard not to be and a lot of time, perhaps.
The Similized world
16-11-2005, 11:09
Emotions are complicated... I'm jealous, but that doesn't mean I want to cut all contact with the person.
I used to trust him, maybe that's just why this is so hard now.
Some days I just hate life...
Hence my advice. I'll not pretend it's easy or anything like that, but it's sound.
Cabra West
16-11-2005, 11:10
so what has he/she done , that puts you in the situation ?

Betrayed the trust.
Hullepupp
16-11-2005, 11:13
Betrayed the trust.

that is a reason to leave him/her. If you really have the feeling, that you are betrayed by the person , ignore him/her... but if you think the jealousy exists only in your mind, then forgive him/her
Cabra West
16-11-2005, 11:14
that is a reason to leave him/her. If you really have the feeling, that you are betrayed by the person , ignore him/her... but if you think the jealousy exists only in your mind, then forgive him/her

You don't believe in second chances, do you?
Hullepupp
16-11-2005, 11:15
You don't believe in second chances, do you?
or in third or in .....

sure, if you forgive the person ... but for what ?
Mariehamn
16-11-2005, 11:17
You have midnight sun in winter? How cool is that! ;)
Yeah, just bump your clock back twelve hours and its all good!

Jealous ex :gundge:
The Similized world
16-11-2005, 11:21
You don't believe in second chances, do you?
Hon, do you go back to fireworks when it doesn't work the first time? This shit's no different.
Cabra West
16-11-2005, 11:21
Hence my advice. I'll not pretend it's easy or anything like that, but it's sound.

Let me know where you live. Maybe I will come and visit after all ;)
The Similized world
16-11-2005, 11:22
Let me know where you live. Maybe I will come and visit after all ;)
I'll let you know in a TG ;)
Pure Metal
16-11-2005, 13:00
Does anybody know a cure for it?
smoke some pot... life's problems just melt away...

just be sure no to hide behind the herb (short-term fix only)
BackwoodsSquatches
16-11-2005, 13:12
Does anybody know a cure for it?


Yes.

and evening of wild monkey-sex.*

(Note: this is usually comprised of wild sexual activity, sometimes involving hanging from a ceiling fan, while yelling OOOK! OOOOK!".*)

*Does not usually involves actual monkeys.
Mariehamn
16-11-2005, 13:14
*Does not usually involves actual monkeys.
Oh, I was game until I saw the fine print. :(
BackwoodsSquatches
16-11-2005, 13:15
Oh, I was game until I saw the fine print. :(


its always the fine print that gets ya.
Jester III
16-11-2005, 13:24
Drop either the person involved or your jealousy. A relationship without trust isnt worth shit. So relearn trust or end it now.
Harlesburg
16-11-2005, 14:01
http://gofuckyourself.com/images/icons/xyxthumbs.gif
Never blame the jealousy.
Freeunitedstates
16-11-2005, 14:57
1. Life means suffering.

To live means to suffer, because the human nature is not perfect and neither is the world we live in. During our lifetime, we inevitably have to endure physical suffering such as pain, sickness, injury, tiredness, old age, and eventually death; and we have to endure psychological suffering like sadness, fear, frustration, disappointment, and depression. Although there are different degrees of suffering and there are also positive experiences in life that we perceive as the opposite of suffering, such as ease, comfort and happiness, life in its totality is imperfect and incomplete, because our world is subject to impermanence. This means we are never able to keep permanently what we strive for, and just as happy moments pass by, we ourselves and our loved ones will pass away one day, too.

2. The origin of suffering is attachment.

The origin of suffering is attachment to transient things and the ignorance thereof. Transient things do not only include the physical objects that surround us, but also ideas, and -in a greater sense- all objects of our perception. Ignorance is the lack of understanding of how our mind is attached to impermanent things. The reasons for suffering are desire, passion, ardor, pursue of wealth and prestige, striving for fame and popularity, or in short: craving and clinging. Because the objects of our attachment are transient, their loss is inevitable, thus suffering will necessarily follow. Objects of attachment also include the idea of a "self" which is a delusion, because there is no abiding self. What we call "self" is just an imagined entity, and we are merely a part of the ceaseless becoming of the universe.

3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.

The cessation of suffering can be attained through nirodha. Nirodha means the unmaking of sensual craving and conceptual attachment. The third noble truth expresses the idea that suffering can be ended by attaining dispassion. Nirodha extinguishes all forms of clinging and attachment. This means that suffering can be overcome through human activity, simply by removing the cause of suffering. Attaining and perfecting dispassion is a process of many levels that ultimately results in the state of Nirvana. Nirvana means freedom from all worries, troubles, complexes, fabrications and ideas. Nirvana is not comprehensible for those who have not attained it.

4. The path to the cessation of suffering.

There is a path to the end of suffering - a gradual path of self-improvement, which is described more detailed in the Eightfold Path. It is the middle way between the two extremes of excessive self-indulgence (hedonism) and excessive self-mortification (asceticism); and it leads to the end of the cycle of rebirth. The latter quality discerns it from other paths which are merely "wandering on the wheel of becoming", because these do not have a final object. The path to the end of suffering can extend over many lifetimes, throughout which every individual rebirth is subject to karmic conditioning. Craving, ignorance, delusions, and its effects will disappear gradually, as progress is made on the path.

The Noble Eightfold Path describes the way to the end of suffering, as it was laid out by Siddhartha Gautama. It is a practical guideline to ethical and mental development with the goal of freeing the individual from attachments and delusions; and it finally leads to understanding the truth about all things. Together with the Four Noble Truths it constitutes the gist of Buddhism. Great emphasis is put on the practical aspect, because it is only through practice that one can attain a higher level of existence and finally reach Nirvana. The eight aspects of the path are not to be understood as a sequence of single steps, instead they are highly interdependent principles that have to be seen in relationship with each other.

1. Right View

Right view is the beginning and the end of the path, it simply means to see and to understand things as they really are and to realize the Four Noble Truth. As such, right view is the cognitive aspect of wisdom. It means to see things through, to grasp the impermanent and imperfect nature of worldly objects and ideas, and to understand the law of karma and karmic conditioning. Right view is not necessarily an intellectual capacity, just as wisdom is not just a matter of intelligence. Instead, right view is attained, sustained, and enhanced through all capacities of mind. It begins with the intuitive insight that all beings are subject to suffering and it ends with complete understanding of the true nature of all things. Since our view of the world forms our thoughts and our actions, right view yields right thoughts and right actions.

2. Right Intention

While right view refers to the cognitive aspect of wisdom, right intention refers to the volitional aspect, i.e. the kind of mental energy that controls our actions. Right intention can be described best as commitment to ethical and mental self-improvement. Buddha distinguishes three types of right intentions: 1. the intention of renunciation, which means resistance to the pull of desire, 2. the intention of good will, meaning resistance to feelings of anger and aversion, and 3. the intention of harmlessness, meaning not to think or act cruelly, violently, or aggressively, and to develop compassion.
3. Right Speech

Right speech is the first principle of ethical conduct in the eightfold path. Ethical conduct is viewed as a guideline to moral discipline, which supports the other principles of the path. This aspect is not self-sufficient, however, essential, because mental purification can only be achieved through the cultivation of ethical conduct. The importance of speech in the context of Buddhist ethics is obvious: words can break or save lives, make enemies or friends, start war or create peace. Buddha explained right speech as follows: 1. to abstain from false speech, especially not to tell deliberate lies and not to speak deceitfully, 2. to abstain from slanderous speech and not to use words maliciously against others, 3. to abstain from harsh words that offend or hurt others, and 4. to abstain from idle chatter that lacks purpose or depth. Positively phrased, this means to tell the truth, to speak friendly, warm, and gently and to talk only when necessary.

4. Right Action

The second ethical principle, right action, involves the body as natural means of expression, as it refers to deeds that involve bodily actions. Unwholesome actions lead to unsound states of mind, while wholesome actions lead to sound states of mind. Again, the principle is explained in terms of abstinence: right action means 1. to abstain from harming sentient beings, especially to abstain from taking life (including suicide) and doing harm intentionally or delinquently, 2. to abstain from taking what is not given, which includes stealing, robbery, fraud, deceitfulness, and dishonesty, and 3. to abstain from sexual misconduct. Positively formulated, right action means to act kindly and compassionately, to be honest, to respect the belongings of others, and to keep sexual relationships harmless to others. Further details regarding the concrete meaning of right action can be found in the Precepts.

5. Right Livelihood

Right livelihood means that one should earn one's living in a righteous way and that wealth should be gained legally and peacefully. The Buddha mentions four specific activities that harm other beings and that one should avoid for this reason: 1. dealing in weapons, 2. dealing in living beings (including raising animals for slaughter as well as slave trade and prostitution), 3. working in meat production and butchery, and 4. selling intoxicants and poisons, such as alcohol and drugs. Furthermore any other occupation that would violate the principles of right speech and right action should be avoided.

6. Right Effort

Right effort can be seen as a prerequisite for the other principles of the path. Without effort, which is in itself an act of will, nothing can be achieved, whereas misguided effort distracts the mind from its task, and confusion will be the consequence. Mental energy is the force behind right effort; it can occur in either wholesome or unwholesome states. The same type of energy that fuels desire, envy, aggression, and violence can on the other side fuel self-discipline, honesty, benevolence, and kindness. Right effort is detailed in four types of endeavors that rank in ascending order of perfection: 1. to prevent the arising of unarisen unwholesome states, 2. to abandon unwholesome states that have already arisen, 3. to arouse wholesome states that have not yet arisen, and 4. to maintain and perfect wholesome states already arisen.

7. Right Mindfulness

Right mindfulness is the controlled and perfected faculty of cognition. It is the mental ability to see things as they are, with clear consciousness. Usually, the cognitive process begins with an impression induced by perception, or by a thought, but then it does not stay with the mere impression. Instead, we almost always conceptualize sense impressions and thoughts immediately. We interpret them and set them in relation to other thoughts and experiences, which naturally go beyond the facticity of the original impression. The mind then posits concepts, joins concepts into constructs, and weaves those constructs into complex interpretative schemes. All this happens only half consciously, and as a result we often see things obscured. Right mindfulness is anchored in clear perception and it penetrates impressions without getting carried away. Right mindfulness enables us to be aware of the process of conceptualization in a way that we actively observe and control the way our thoughts go. Buddha accounted for this as the four foundations of mindfulness: 1. contemplation of the body, 2. contemplation of feeling (repulsive, attractive, or neutral), 3. contemplation of the state of mind, and 4. contemplation of the phenomena.

8. Right Concentration

The eighth principle of the path, right concentration, refers to the development of a mental force that occurs in natural consciousness, although at a relatively low level of intensity, namely concentration. Concentration in this context is described as one-pointedness of mind, meaning a state where all mental faculties are unified and directed onto one particular object. Right concentration for the purpose of the eightfold path means wholesome concentration, i.e. concentration on wholesome thoughts and actions. The Buddhist method of choice to develop right concentration is through the practice of meditation. The meditating mind focuses on a selected object. It first directs itself onto it, then sustains concentration, and finally intensifies concentration step by step. Through this practice it becomes natural to apply elevated levels concentration also in everyday situations.

The Heart Sutra.
Translation by Edward Conze

Homage to the Perfection of Wisdom, the Lovely, the Holy!

Avalokita, The Holy Lord and Bodhisattva, was moving in the deep course of the Wisdom which has gone beyond. He looked down from on high, He beheld but five heaps, and he saw that in their own-being they were empty.

Here, Sariputra, form is emptiness and the very emptiness is form; emptiness does not differ from form, form does not differ from emptiness; whatever is form, that is emptiness, whatever is emptiness, that is form, the same is true of feelings, perceptions, impulses and consciousness.

Here, Sariputra, all dharmas are marked with emptiness; they are not produced or stopped, not defiled or immaculate, not deficient or complete.

Therefore, Sariputra, in emptiness there is no form, nor feeling, nor perception, nor impulse, nor consciousness; No eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, mind; No forms, sounds, smells, tastes, touchables or objects of mind; No sight-organ element, and so forth, until we come to: No mind-consciousness element; There is no ignorance, no extinction of ignorance, and so forth, until we come to: there is no decay and death, no extinction of decay and death. There is no suffering, no origination, no stopping, no path. There is no cognition, no attainment and non-attainment.

Therefore, Sariputra, it is because of his non-attainment that a Bodhisattva, through having relied on the Perfection of Wisdom, dwells without thought-coverings. In the absence of thought-coverings he has not been made to tremble, he has overcome what can upset, and in the end he attains to Nirvana.

All those who appear as Buddhas in the three periods of time fully awake to the utmost, right and perfect Enlightenment because they have relied on the Perfection of Wisdom.Therefore one should know the prajnaparamita as the great spell, the spell of great knowledge, the utmost spell, the unequalled spell, allayer of all suffering, in truth - for what could go wrong? By the prajnaparamita has this spell been delivered. It runs like this:

Gone, gone, gone beyond, gone altogether beyond, O what an awakening, all-hail!

Translations

Avalokita = Avalokiteshvara, the bodhisattva of compassion
Sariputra = disciple of the Buddha
sunyata = emptiness, void
prajna = wisdom
paramita = that which has reached the other shore
prajnaparamita = wisdom acquired experientially, by means of intuitive insight, and perfected through cultivation to the level of transcendental knowledge
hridaya = heart
nirvana = ultimate attainment
bodhi = awakened mind
sattva = being
http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/
The Charr
16-11-2005, 15:08
Does anybody know a cure for it?

Own a penguin of your very own.

Seriously, if you had your very own penguin you'd never be jealous of anybody, or anything, ever again. But everybody would be jealous of you!
Willamena
16-11-2005, 15:09
Does anybody know a cure for it?
Love.