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More crunchy United Nations goodness...

It looks as if the realists have won the day in the matter of Darfur. Or, to phrase it in another way, it looks as if the ethnic cleansers of that province have made good use of the "negotiation" and "mediation" period to complete their self-appointed task. As my friend Johann Hari put it recently in the London Independent: "At last, some good news from Darfur: the genocide in western Sudan is nearly over. There's only one problem—it's drawing to an end only because there are no black people left to cleanse or kill."

Kofi Annan don't care about black people

Most NS General posters care more about what Americans are doing in Iraq than what Sudanese are doing in Darfur.

It's ok to kill hundreds of thousands of people as long as it isn't the Americans doing it.

Seems that way, but can you blame them? Nobody seems to care about Darfur. I wrote to my congressman about it in hopes he'd bring it before congress. I got a form letter back that basically said everything I didn't want to hear. It gave the impression that they were going to wait and see instead of at least threatening some action.

It's ok to kill hundreds of thousands of people as long as it isn't the Americans doing it.
Blah blah blah, rhetoric rhetoric, yawn.

Blah blah blah, rhetoric rhetoric, yawn.
Yeah, fuck that shit. Who wants to hear about organized rape and the extermination of a culture if it doesn't advance one's political agenda?

Kofi Annan don't care about black people

Which is funny since he's black :D

Which is funny since he's black :D
Yeah, it's also funny because it's what Kanye West said about W.

Which is funny since he's black :D
He doesn't care about himself either. Kofi is the only man known to have bitch-slapped himself after requesting that he could have a pay raise.

Is America the only western nation with a military? Or just the only western nation with a useful one?

:confused:

We've played world police for the better part of a century, someone else can step up once in a while if it's that damn important. Just because it's not right doesn't make it our responsibility to correct it. We don't belong in Darfur for the same reasons we don't belong in Iraq -- no imminent threat and no UN mandate.

He doesn't care about himself either. Kofi is the only man known to have bitch-slapped himself after requesting that he could have a pay raise.
You don't even want to know what he almost did to himself when he found out he was married to a white woman.

Is America the only western nation with a military? Or just the only western nation with a useful one?

:confused:

We've played world police for the better part of a century, someone else can step up once in a while if it's that damn important. Just because it's not right doesn't make it our responsibility to correct it. We don't belong in Darfur for the same reasons we don't belong in Iraq -- no imminent threat and no UN mandate.

The only nation with the credible ability to project a major amount of force to any spot on the globe. Other Western nations have militaries, but no real ability to invade to enforce something.

Is America the only western nation with a military? Or just the only western nation with a useful one?

:confused:

We've played world police for the better part of a century, someone else can step up once in a while if it's that damn important. Just because it's not right doesn't make it our responsibility to correct it. We don't belong in Darfur for the same reasons we don't belong in Iraq -- no imminent threat and no UN mandate.


You've played World Police eh? More like GTA:The World.

And no-one gives a shit about Darfur because it's Rwanda all over again and the media doesn't keep telling us what's going on so we get bored and drift away.

Yeah, Darfur is terrible and all, but what can we do?

You don't even want to know what he almost did to himself when he found out he was married to a white woman.
And when it got to trial, he just laughed at himself and said: "You can't touch me, ******! I'm Kofi Annan, I run the UN!" Then he spat in his own face, had his lawyers intimidate each other, and got the charges dismissed.
There is just no justice for the Black man in a world run by Kofi.

Yeah, Darfur is terrible and all, but what can we do?

Send in Peacekeepers in Darfur but unless they are given the authority to restore order as well as keep the peace, this will not stop the violence.

Yeah, Darfur is terrible and all, but what can we do?
Write to your congressman, write a letter to your local newspaper, and make sure everyone knows about it.

Send in Peacekeepers in Darfur but unless they are given the authority to restore order as well as keep the peace, this will not stop the violence.

I believe the AU already has peacekeepers on the ground.

I believe the AU already has peacekeepers on the ground.

And they've been remarkably ineffective...

I believe the AU already has peacekeepers on the ground.

Has it done any good? What is their mandate?

AU Peacekeepers can't do anything. There are so few of them, they have to stand by while towns are slaughtered.

AU Peacekeepers can't do anything. There are so few of them, they have to stand by while towns are slaughtered.

I think that's the idea - the only way that the Sudanese government would go along with the idea of peacekeepers.

I think that's the idea - the only way that the Sudanese government would go along with the idea of peacekeepers. Indeed. I hate the world now. Most people have no right to complain if their family is being slaughtered, because they're not willing to do anything about others. Not that many can, but most people just don't care.

[EDIT/] WTF is with the UN finding it not to be genocide? It was obviously genocide, in that it was an attempt to destroy a race (hence the organised rape).

Yeah, fuck that shit. Who wants to hear about organized rape and the extermination of a culture if it doesn't advance one's political agenda?
well, it isn't our culture, now is it? So who cares about some country in Asia:rolleyes:

Indeed. I hate the world now. Most people have no right to complain if their family is being slaughtered, because they're not willing to do anything about others. Not that many can, but most people just don't care.

[EDIT/] WTF is with the UN finding it not to be genocide? It was obviously genocide, in that it was an attempt to destroy a race (hence the organised rape).

It's because the UN is not some Council of the Wise. It's a backroom where countries grandstand in their own interest.

Precisely because it was designed to be impotent, and precisely because every member nation is by definition an "interested party" to any conflict (since it represents precedence), it was, is, and will continue to be an organization that can only disappoint.

well, it isn't our culture, now is it? So who cares about some country in Asia:rolleyes:
Asia?

Anyway, our culture values equality and the lives of innocent civilians. Our culture, therefore, compels us to protect the people of Darfur who are being raped and exterminated just because of the color of their skin.

Asia?

Anyway, our culture values equality and the lives of innocent civilians. Our culture, therefore, compels us to protect the people of Darfur who are being raped and exterminated just because of the color of their skin.
I wasn't being serious...I actually have been involved with some groups sending aid over...Oh, and I do know its in Africa...I was just trying to make the typical ignorant comment

Just great Rwanda all over again. Jesus christ when will this shit end.

I wasn't being serious...I actually have been involved with some groups sending aid over...Oh, and I do know its in Africa...I was just trying to make the typical ignorant comment
I'll make the ignorant comments around here, pal.

Just great Rwanda all over again. Jesus christ when will this shit end.
When the world is populated by every megalomaniacal rulers "master race". Of course, these master races usually aren't the same, so I have the feeling the future isn't too bright.


sadly, I really don't see it ending because we've now allowed 2 to continue, if not more, without doing a damn thing

I'll make the ignorant comments around here, pal.
alright, buddy.


can I atleast have the facetious comments?

Where's Chuck Norris when you need him?

alright, buddy.


can I atleast have the facetious comments?
I think Fass called dibs on those. How about humorous anecdotes?

I think Fass called dibs on those. How about humorous anecdotes?
*sigh*...I SUPPOSE I could take those


wait...damn it...that was sarcasm...I think thats Czardas' territory.

damn it all to hell.

*sigh*...I SUPPOSE I could take those


wait...damn it...that was sarcasm...I think thats Czardas' territory.

damn it all to hell.

You can't have the shockingly amoral stuff - that's mine.

*sigh*...I SUPPOSE I could take those


wait...damn it...that was sarcasm...I think thats Czardas' territory.

damn it all to hell.

You could be the bitchy emo poster on the....no wait thats already taken. Hmm looks like your out of luck man.

Someone rich should just form some kind of militia and stalk around Africa with atrocious weapons and tanks and things killing all of the Janjaweed/LRA/whatever and preventing genocide. No, I'm being totally serious here. It seems to be the only damn option left.

We saw the Nazi Death Camps, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Soviet Gulags, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Algerian roundups, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the bloated bodies of gassed Kruds, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Ethnic Cleansing in Bosnia, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Khmer Rouge liquidation of Cambodia, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Chinese 'Great Leap Forward', and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Executed Monks in Tibet, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Tutsis being hacked to death in Rwanda, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Serbian exterminations, and we said "Never Again".

We see the Genocide in Darfur, and what do we tell ourselves?

We see the Genocide in Darfur, and what do we tell ourselves?

Pass the chips...

Pass the chips...

More like lets put another shrimp on the barbie....

More like lets put another shrimp on the barbie....
Why are you stacking seafood on your daughter's toys?

Truly a sad day when the leaders of the world lack the testicular fortitude to do what is morally right.

Truly a sad day when the leaders of the world lack the testicular fortitude to do what is morally right.
It's been a long, long stretch of sad days then.

It's been a long, long stretch of sad days then.

NATO did it with serbia and bosnia.

The UN did it with Iraq.

No, just the current crop of leaders.

NATO did it with serbia and bosnia.

The UN did it with Iraq.

No, just the current crop of leaders.

It really comes down to a sense of willingness to do something. And as long as most nations can freeride off the USA's influence and military might well they aren't going to do anything which jepardize's their standard of living.

well, it isn't our culture, now is it? So who cares about some country in Asia:rolleyes:

Sudan is in Africa not Asia. :headbang:

You can't have the shockingly amoral stuff - that's mine.
What do I get? :confused:

Sudan is in Africa not Asia. :headbang: He knows. He was making an ironical statement.

We saw the Nazi Death Camps, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Soviet Gulags, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Algerian roundups, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the bloated bodies of gassed Kruds, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Ethnic Cleansing in Bosnia, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Khmer Rouge liquidation of Cambodia, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Chinese 'Great Leap Forward', and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Executed Monks in Tibet, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Tutsis being hacked to death in Rwanda, and we said "Never Again".
We saw the Serbian exterminations, and we said "Never Again".

We see the Genocide in Darfur, and what do we tell ourselves?
We need to just fucking start a fund, and go the fuck down there ourselves. I'll personally fucking kill every single one of them that I get a chance to! I swear on my life, if I had the funding, I'd go be the person that all the liberals on here dtest about me. Still think torture is wrong? I'll do those motherfuckers for no reason. It may scar me for life, but I really don't care at this point.

Truly a sad day when the leaders of the world lack the testicular fortitude to do what is morally right.
If we had more help in Iraq right now, I'm sure we'd be more than willing to send down a Battalion of Marines. But we're a little busy finishing up from our last Genocidal Dictator removal process.

Ask France and Germany, I hear they have extras.

On second thought, you might as well just leave them and let the U.N. handle it. According to some people, saving people from Genocide isn't worth fighting for, because it might cause the locals to get mad at us, and start killing people. Besides, do we REALLY know for sure if it's actually happening?

Intelligence isn't alway right, ya know!

And I for one am sick of my President being called a liar, which would most certainly happen for one reason or another.

Sudan is in Africa not Asia. :headbang:
*sigh* this is what I get for trying to joke on the internet.



we all know its in the Caribbean. Right next to New York and Guam.
(Before anyone thinks I'm this stupid, I'm not. Give me a map and I'll prove it)

*sigh* this is what I get for trying to joke on the internet.



we all know its in the Caribbean. Right next to New York and Guam.
(Before anyone thinks I'm this stupid, I'm not. Give me a map and I'll prove it)
*hands you a map of Middle Earth and screams* "Where the hell are your pussy hobbits now, chickenfucker?"

Canada should send in its highly trained elite "peacekeeping super humanitarian military" force.

People are always telling me how mega awesome they are.