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http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005520736,00.html

THE uncle of 7/7 suicide bomber Shehzad Tanweer sparked fury last night by saying he is turning his “heroic” nephew’s grave into a shrine.

Tahir Pervez said: “Tanweer did nothing wrong. He died a jihadi (holy warrior) and that is why we wanted him buried in Pakistan, on Islamic soil.”

Pervez added: “I have no sorrow for those who died in London. They do not take the name of Allah and look at all the innocent Muslims being killed around the world. My nephew has died — why should I worry about people dying in London.”

His comments have enraged families of those killed in the July 7 attacks.

John and June Taylor, whose 24-year-old daughter Carrie was one of Tanweer’s seven victims at Aldgate station, said in a statement: “These outrageous comments show there are some evil, despicable people who have a perverted view of life.

“Tanweer is not a martyr in his faith. He is just a common murderer of innocent people.”

Pervez, 40, brother of Tanweer’s mum Parveen, said he wanted Muslim fundamentalists to come to Tanweer’s grave because his nephew died a holy warrior in the name of Allah.

He said: “We do not even know if Tanweer was the bomber and that is why, for us he died a hero. The British authorities have no proof that he carried out the bombings.:rolleyes:

“If he did do it, ;) then he died in the name of Allah and there is nothing greater than that.”

The remains of Tanweer — who grew up in Beeston, Leeds — were taken to Pakistan by his family two weeks ago.

Around 200 locals attended the funeral despite Pakistani authorities posting an armed guard at the grave at the time to keep fundamentalists away.

Pervez is the richest landowner in the village of Chhotian Kota — mainly through money sent from relatives in Britain.

One of many locals upset by Pervez’s comments said: “England is good for Pakistanis but the blasts have ruined everything. People feel very sad at what happened but are afraid to speak out.

“Everyone is scared of Pervez. He believes that his nephew died a hero, killing non-Muslims.”


This despite the guy owing his riches to remittances from UK. Way to go.


Missing obligatory endlines in the report because the victims are from the west...

Musharraf strongly denies presence of any terrorist camps in Pakistan and Bush strongly supports Musharraf - the frontline warrior in the war on terror.

The Sun? Geez, that's a little low, don't you think?

Sick shrine to 7/7 killer

And the news ticker reads...
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Dunno about the Sun, but there are other reports I have read that a sizeable crowd attended his funeral where he was hailed as a martyr. There was another report that he was buried in the shrine of a pir (a subcontinental muslim saint types).

Dunno about the Sun, but there are other reports I have read that a sizeable crowd attended his funeral where he was hailed as a martyr. There was another report that he was buried in the shrine of a pir (a subcontinental muslim saint types).
Yeah, I don't think they made this story up...I just don't like their way of presenting things.

So, I mean I can't tell people how to think about this, and we can't make laws regarding people's thoughts (although they are trying...). It's unfortunate that he would do this, but I don't think there are laws against it, and making them would be to shoot yourself in the foot.

In conclusion: I disagree with it, but it's one of those things where education and understanding would probably be better than force and the rule of law.

Reuters

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SP274434.htm
They were then driven to Chhotian Kota village, where the remains were to be buried at a local Islamic saint's shrine.

In conclusion: I disagree with it, but it's one of those things where education and understanding would probably be better than force and the rule of law.

Tanweer and his fellow bombers, were all educated in London. All were from reasonably well to do families in UK and definitely in the rich elite category when compared to Pakistanis back in Pakistan (or for that matter about 70% of worlds population).

Reuters
See the difference between the reporting of different outlets?

God, I hate boulevard journalism...

hmmmm i wonder what would happen if the grave were to mysterously blowup?

Tanweer and his fellow bombers, were all educated in London.
I meant more with regards to the way the deed is perceived by others.
I think that such extremism has the same roots as the riots did in France: A failure to integrate another culture into the European one.

Personally, I feel that Britain had it coming. They had a long relationship with various sunni elements and the subcontinental sunni power base was infact groomed by the imperial British Raj to suit several agendas of that time.

For far too many years, UK was a safe haven for Paki terrorists who were openly organizing and funding terrorism against India.

The unspoken understanding was that UK will never be targetted.

Lashkar e Taiba (and their backers in the establishment) do not see it that way and that is the problem.

Not lack of education, lack of integration, "root causes", poverty etc. Those are factors, but not as significant as it being portrayed by apologists of various hues...

Not lack of education, lack of integration, "root causes", poverty etc. Those are factors, but not as significant as it being portrayed by apologists of various hues...
If I say anything against this you'll bury me under quotes and links again, so I just won't.

All I'm saying is that regardless of the politics and the "support" of the UK Government for Anti-Indian groups (not Iraq though, I assume you liked that one), someone has to be found to go and blow themselves and the people they go to school and work with up.
And those people don't just get the idea from one day to the next - radical Islam is an outlet first and foremost. The Government didn't tell the boys to go and become suicide bombers. Nor did they tell them to go to extremist sermons.

This whole story is appaling. The British Government should have buried this animal's remains in an unmarked grave as the Israelis do with suicide bombers. This is a disgrace and should not have been allowed. Think of the families of the victims of this appalling crime.

If such a shrine is built I'll make a pilgramage to it and take a nice steaming dump on top.

As appalling and distasteful as I find this, I welcome it. There's nothing like a highly publicised glorification of terrorism to wake people up to the true colours of Islam in Britain.

This whole story is appaling. The British Government should have buried this animal's remains in an unmarked grave as the Israelis do with suicide bombers. This is a disgrace and should not have been allowed. Think of the families of the victims of this appalling crime.
Or fed it to pigs and then offer the pigs to the terrorist's family.