NationStates Jolt Archive


Whats your background

The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 03:34
What is your background?....European backgrounds on the poll only as I dont have the time to do it from everywhere in the world and the limit is 10 options.....Im not a freaking racists so before anyone trys to say anything just relax....its just an online forum.

If it is not on there and you would like to post your background, please feel free...remember there are only 10 slots avaliable for options...Also some are more general I.E. Scandanavia or British Isles...so if you select an option like that please post specificly what your heritage is....I.E. Norwegian or Irish.

Thanks...

Ill start with my own.. I clicked German because I am Prussian (from Berlin), also German from Bavaria, and Austrian from Austria...I am also Russian.
Neu Leonstein
14-11-2005, 03:35
What is your background....European only as I dont have the time to do it from everywhere in the world.....Im not a freaking racists so before you try to say anything just relax....its just an online forum.
:confused:
What?
My background is half Hamburgian, half East-Prussian.
NERVUN
14-11-2005, 03:39
What is your background....European only as I dont have the time to do it from everywhere in the world.....Im not a freaking racists so before you try to say anything just relax....its just an online forum.
Huh? Do, do what?

And Irish, Scottish, English, Italian, French, German, Belgian, and Scandanavian (My family got around).
The Ohio State Axis
14-11-2005, 03:41
Cuban, Soviet (either Ukraine or Russia, I really don't know), and a mess of UK and western European countries.
Neu Leonstein
14-11-2005, 03:42
I see everyone claiming everything without speaking a word of the language, never having been in the vicinity of that country...basically just claiming in order not to sound...well, boring.

What qualifies as "background"?
Monkeypimp
14-11-2005, 03:42
How far back?
Secluded Islands
14-11-2005, 03:43
my great great great great grandfather was from germany...
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 03:44
Well for instance, for Americans like myself, it would be where your family came from and lived before America....For non-Americans, it would just be as far back as you can trace your family. Fair enough?
OceanDrive2
14-11-2005, 03:44
You should at least have put the other option...

as most of the World is missing...
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 03:45
I see everyone claiming everything without speaking a word of the language, never having been in the vicinity of that country...basically just claiming in order not to sound...well, boring.

What qualifies as "background"?

See post 8
Eolam
14-11-2005, 03:45
Gondwani, with some Lemurian and Kazakh intermixture.
Antikythera
14-11-2005, 03:46
iam half duch-- part english, part french,and a few others i cant remember
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 03:47
You should at least have put the other option...

as most of the World races are missing...

Urg...I tried explaining that in my first post....its impossible to do all the worlds races so I am only doing European...you are welcome to start your own doing only Asian, African....etc....Like I said before...if what represents you is not there....simply post what you are.
Thekalu
14-11-2005, 03:48
italian
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 03:48
Huh? Do, do what?

And Irish, Scottish, English, Italian, French, German, Belgian, and Scandanavian (My family got around).

Haha...you family IS Western Europe..lol
Monkeypimp
14-11-2005, 03:49
three of my four grandparents were born in New Zealand, but I'm not sure how far back the others go. It wont be far though considering European settlers haven't been coming to this country for all that long. My last name (so my fathers fathers fathers etc side of the family) traces back to the Isle of Skye in Scotland. The rest trace back to various parts of the UK/Ireland although I'm not sure on all the details.
Smunkeeville
14-11-2005, 03:49
My maternal great-grandfathers family came here from Ireland in 1900, my maternal great-grandmothers family came here from Scotland in 1908, and my father's family showed up here in 1917 from Germany.

So, I guess Scotish/Irish/German, but I wouldn't put it past them if there was some mixing up before they got to America.
Neu Leonstein
14-11-2005, 03:50
Well for instance, for Americans like myself, it would be where your family came from and lived before America...
But they don't actually know. It's stupid, most people claim whatever they want.
And besides, it doesn't make the slightest bit of a difference. You are American, not German, not British, not French.

For non-Americans, it would just be as far back as you can trace your family. Fair enough?
Same thing. The first mention of my name comes from Theodoricos de Weltewiz from 1257.
http://www.maschwitz.de/maschwitz-1257.htm
Can I possibly claim I'm his relative? Certainly not, if I did so, I only did it to feel good about myself.
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 03:50
three of my four grandparents were born in New Zealand, but I'm not sure how far back the others go. It wont be far though considering European settlers haven't been coming to this country for all that long. My last name (so my fathers fathers fathers etc side of the family) traces back to the Isle of Skye in Scotland. The rest trace back to various parts of the UK/Ireland although I'm not sure on all the details.

Thats very interesting...I love family background its so cool
Dobbsworld
14-11-2005, 03:51
I've got ancestors from the Orkneys and the Hebrides, and some from the east coast of North America, too. But there weren't any options other than European, so I had to vote 'British Isles'.
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 03:52
But they don't actually know. It's stupid, most people claim whatever they want.
And besides, it doesn't make the slightest bit of a difference. You are American, not German, not British, not French.


Same thing. The first mention of my name comes from Theodoricos de Weltewiz from 1257.
http://www.maschwitz.de/maschwitz-1257.htm
Can I possibly claim I'm his relative? Certainly not, if I did so, I only did it to feel good about myself.

OMG...dont get so worked up...RELAX....Its just to see what your heritage is....my background is German...but I dont feel the slightest bit of loyality to Germany. I'm an American. Also, the possible explanation for everyone stating German is because, I'm 99% sure that German is the dominant background for white Americans....its the majority of the different european backgrounds.
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 03:54
I've got ancestors from the Orkneys and the Hebrides, and some from the east coast of North America, too. But there weren't any options other than European, so I had to vote 'British Isles'.

Right...but instead of complaining about a lack of options like some others...all you did was post what was missing....and look its here all the same....Thank you.
OceanDrive2
14-11-2005, 03:54
if what represents you is not there....simply post what you are.What represents me is not in your poll.
I am American...my ancestors are Europeans...But I am not.

that was then...this is Now.
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 03:56
I am American...my ancestors are Europenas...But I am not.

that was then...this Now.

Exaclty...this is what I was trying to tell Neu Leonstein
OceanDrive2
14-11-2005, 04:01
I'm 99% sure that German is the dominant background for white Americans....its the majority of the different european backgrounds.I am aware that even if we speak English...we do not come from the British isles...maybe a very small percentage does...

But I dont think 99% German is acurate.
Neu Leonstein
14-11-2005, 04:01
Well, I'll spell it out.

First mention was, as I said in 1257 by a knight with my name. Indeed, there are records of another church being donated by a guy with my name, and today a village in Saxony carries my name.

My Father's side:
My grandfather's family comes from Bochum in West Germany. My great-grandfather served in WWI as a mountaineer and climbed on mountains all the time. His three brothers all fell, but I only know where and when of one of them.
My grandmother's family comes from Hamburg, always has. My grandfather moved to Hamburg shortly after the war, where he met my grandmother.

My Mother's side:
My grandfather's family comes from the Sudetenland, which is mainly in today's Czech Republic. They owned a chocolate factory there, but it was taken and probably dismantled and brought to Russia after the war. He fled to Bavaria, an alcoholic, bio-chemical engineer and all-round creep.
My grandmother's family comes from eastern Prussia, and fled when the Soviets came over. It was not a nice story, and most of it I never heard. Suffice to say that the Russians were not behaving in a friendly fashion. Eventually they reached Bavaria, where the two met.
After my mother was born, my grandfather eventually died (which was a good thing), and I now have a step-grandfather who is also originally from Eastern Prussia and served in Stalingrad.

So now you know my background and family history as far back as it could possibly matter.
Philanchez
14-11-2005, 04:02
Majority: German and English

Minority: Cuban(from Spain and Germany of all places) and Polish there is also some other eastern european mixed in here but only a marriage here and there
Amarnaiy
14-11-2005, 04:03
Scottish, French, Italian, German... Just to name a few...
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 04:04
I am aware that even if we speak English...we do not come from the British isles...maybe a very small percentage does...

But I dont think 99% German is acurate.

No, lol...I said i was 99% sure that german was the dominant background...not that german was 99% of the background...lol reread what i posted
Grainne Ni Malley
14-11-2005, 04:06
Scotch-Irish, German, French, Norweigan(sp?), a whole bunch of other stuff I can't remember and Iroquois. How come you don't have a Heinz option on the poll?
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 04:07
Well, I'll spell it out.

First mention was, as I said in 1257 by a knight with my name. Indeed, there are records of another church being donated by a guy with my name, and today a village in Saxony carries my name.

My Father's side:
My grandfather's family comes from Bochum in West Germany. My great-grandfather served in WWI as a mountaineer and climbed on mountains all the time. His three brothers all fell, but I only know where and when of one of them.
My grandmother's family comes from Hamburg, always has. My grandfather moved to Hamburg shortly after the war, where he met my grandmother.

My Mother's side:
My grandfather's family comes from the Sudetenland, which is mainly in today's Czech Republic. They owned a chocolate factory there, but it was taken and probably dismantled and brought to Russia after the war. He fled to Bavaria, an alcoholic, bio-chemical engineer and all-round creep.
My grandmother's family comes from eastern Prussia, and fled when the Soviets came over. It was not a nice story, and most of it I never heard. Suffice to say that the Russians were not behaving in a friendly fashion. Eventually they reached Bavaria, where the two met.
After my mother was born, my grandfather eventually died (which was a good thing), and I now have a step-grandfather who is also originally from Eastern Prussia and served in Stalingrad.

So now you know my background and family history as far back as it could possibly matter.

I am aware of the brutalityof the Russians....and for that I am sorry. I must ask you this...you say you are a German living in Australia...well since i have no idea how old you are i need to ask you...were you, your parents, or your grandparents Nazis?
Neu Leonstein
14-11-2005, 04:11
...were you, your parents, or your grandparents Nazis?
I was born in 1985...so I missed the boat by 40 years.
My parents were born in the sixties, so they missed the boat by 20 years.
My grandparents were born in the thirties, so they were too young to qualify. Except my step-grandfather, who fought for his country like millions of others, got wounded and evacuated, and then spent the rest of his life as a quasi-invalid. What happened before Stalingrad, I can't tell you - everything I know about him is really hear-say, he doesn't talk about the war at all.
My great-grandparents...I don't know - except that my grandmother's (on the father's side) house was searched by the Gestapo for stolen food in the last few weeks of the war...but they hid it in a secret cabinet, so they weren't shot out on the street.
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 04:20
I was born in 1985...so I missed the boat by 40 years.
My parents were born in the sixties, so they missed the boat by 20 years.
My grandparents were born in the thirties, so they were too young to qualify. Except my step-grandfather, who fought for his country like millions of others, got wounded and evacuated, and then spent the rest of his life as a quasi-invalid. What happened before Stalingrad, I can't tell you - everything I know about him is really hear-say, he doesn't talk about the war at all.
My great-grandparents...I don't know - except that my grandmother's (on the father's side) house was searched by the Gestapo for stolen food in the last few weeks of the war...but they hid it in a secret cabinet, so they weren't shot out on the street.

I see. I admire you honeslty. And by the way...I dont, not even for a second stereotype your family as Nazis...infact it enrages me when people stereotype Germans as Nazis...even the ones who did live during that time period. It would be like people calling all Americans Neo-Conservatives just because President Bush is in office...its unreal.
Gaithersburg
14-11-2005, 04:25
My ancestors immigrated from Canada, how exciting is that?
Neu Leonstein
14-11-2005, 04:29
I see. I admire you honeslty.
Well, rest assured, if I was a Nazi war criminal on the run, I wouldn't tell you...:D

Anyways, Germany has learned to deal with its past. It's been awkward, and sometimes still is, but generally you won't have them lying. Problem is just that that kind of question can sound rather insulting.

And by the way...I dont, not even for a second stereotype your family as Nazis...infact it enrages me when people stereotype Germans as Nazis...
The only people you could call Nazis are those that were member of the NSDAP, and even at its heyday that was 8.5 million - out of something like 90 million.
Note that that excludes the moral implication of the word, this is strictly political.
Serapindal
14-11-2005, 04:30
I see. I admire you honeslty. And by the way...I dont, not even for a second stereotype your family as Nazis...infact it enrages me when people stereotype Germans as Nazis...even the ones who did live during that time period. It would be like people calling all Americans Neo-Conservatives just because President Bush is in office...its unreal.

Personally, I'm also sick of the fact that some people think that all Nazis were evil. It's a total myth that all Nazis in WWII had complete knowledge of the Holocaust. Most people didn't join the National Socialist Party because of genocidal tendencies (that was mostly some of the higher-ups like Himmler), but because of things like peer pressure, or gratitude to the revitalization of the economy. Other things could have been justified anger at France, or other stuff. Not all Nazis in WWII were genocidal maniacs. A perfectly reasonable person could have been a Nazi in WWII, though it's strongly unlikely that they would be one after WWII, after being informed of Nazi Atrocities. Also, many were forced to do what they were through fear, because we know, WWII Germany ruled with fear. It's like calling Krushkachev evil, just because he once was an officer under Stalin.
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 04:31
My ancestors immigrated from Canada, how exciting is that?

eh:eek:
Avalya
14-11-2005, 04:32
If the natural law party doesn't exist, why is it in there?
Potaria
14-11-2005, 04:33
I'm mostly Scotch-Irish/Cherokee-Chickasaw, but there's also some English, French, German, and Scandinavian in my background.
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 04:33
Well, rest assured, if I was a Nazi war criminal on the run, I wouldn't tell you...:D

Anyways, Germany has learned to deal with its past. It's been awkward, and sometimes still is, but generally you won't have them lying. Problem is just that that kind of question can sound rather insulting.


The only people you could call Nazis are those that were member of the NSDAP, and even at its heyday that was 8.5 million - out of something like 90 million.
Note that that excludes the moral implication of the word, this is strictly political.

I know it can sound insulting....but I didnt want to beat around the bush...I wanted to be blunt about it and I thank you for not getting insulted.

Exactly....also it wasnt exactly like if you didnt like the Nazis you could just not vote for them and wait for the next four years:rolleyes: ...some people are idiots.
The Atlantian islands
14-11-2005, 04:35
Personally, I'm also sick of the fact that some people think that all Nazis were evil. It's a total myth that all Nazis in WWII had complete knowledge of the Holocaust. Most people didn't join the National Socialist Party because of genocidal tendencies (that was mostly some of the higher-ups like Himmler), but because of things like peer pressure, or gratitude to the revitalization of the economy. Other things could have been justified anger at France, or other stuff. Not all Nazis in WWII were genocidal maniacs. A perfectly reasonable person could have been a Nazi in WWII, though it's strongly unlikely that they would be one after WWII, after being informed of Nazi Atrocities. It's like calling Krushkachev evil, just because he once was an officer under Stalin.

Ah...nothing like the smell of people speaking the truth in the evening.
Der Drache
15-11-2005, 02:44
I am aware that even if we speak English...we do not come from the British isles...maybe a very small percentage does...

But I dont think 99% German is acurate.

Most white Americans I know are a mix of german and british islands. Though we have a lot of other stuff mixed together. American's are the worlds mut people group. I don't have a very extensive family history, but the farthest back I have gone I haven't seen anything but British isles.
Rotovia-
15-11-2005, 02:49
Low Countries? What the fuck...?!
Einsteinian Big-Heads
15-11-2005, 02:55
I'm decended from poor Irish potato farmers, and proud of it!
Empryia
15-11-2005, 03:00
I have no origin, because I am from America. White is my ethincity. I have no ethinicity from fear of being racist towards everyone elses race. White is my race, hear me roar!
Eichen
15-11-2005, 03:01
Half Portuguese and half German.
Neu Leonstein
15-11-2005, 03:03
Low Countries? What the fuck...?!
Belgium, Netherlands, to some extent Luxembourg.

The Netherlands actually means something like "low country", because most of it is below the water level and has been won from the sea over hundreds of years by building deichs and planting trees etc.
The Atlantian islands
15-11-2005, 03:27
I have no origin, because I am from America. White is my ethincity. I have no ethinicity from fear of being racist towards everyone elses race. White is my race, hear me roar!

Er...hmm...I didnt really catch that.....anyone one want to explain this to me...?
New Stalinberg
15-11-2005, 03:30
How rude of you not to put Emperior Penguin down. Antarctica is a continent too.
Neu Leonstein
15-11-2005, 03:32
How rude of you not to put Emperior Penguin down. Antarctica is a continent too.
It's European only...I'd be more concerned that neither Africa (no African Americans here?) or Asia (I know for a fact that there are plenty of Asians here) are present.
Fluffywuffy
15-11-2005, 03:36
Scottish, Irish, German, and a pinch of Cherokee. I'm mostly Scottish and Irish though, with a lesser percentage of German and even lesser Cherokee.
The Atlantian islands
15-11-2005, 03:59
Scottish, Irish, German, and a pinch of Cherokee. I'm mostly Scottish and Irish though, with a lesser percentage of German and even lesser Cherokee.

Its always cool to see people with a little Indian in there.
Wallonochia
15-11-2005, 04:40
I am, in order of precedence, German (Hessian to be precise), Chippewa (or more properly Ojibwe, or even more properly Anishinabek), Irish, and English.
Rupil
15-11-2005, 04:41
I am an American, whose heritage is
1/4 Finnish (minimum)
1/4 German (thereabouts)
1/4 unknown
1/4 Irish (probably less)

Go Finland! Though when asked "What are you?" I always respond American first. It's silly to call yourself Finnish, German or Irish if you'venever been raised in any sort of Finnish, German, or Irish culture. As I say:

"I was born and raised in America, my parents were born and raised in America, their parents were born and raised in America, so i'm pretty sure that qualifies me as an American." Then they usually refine their question and I have to answer them.
The Psyker
15-11-2005, 04:48
Irish 37.5%
German 25%
Lichenstinian(?) 25%
Austrian 12.5%
Neu Leonstein
15-11-2005, 04:53
Austrian 12.5%
Sure it's not 12.3756%?
Marrakech II
15-11-2005, 05:16
As far as I know in order of greatest part to smallest part. Scandinavian, German, French,Portuguese, Irish, Blackfeet
Potaria
15-11-2005, 06:11
Its always cool to see people with a little Indian in there.

Yeah, say that about him, even though I said I was a page ago. :rolleyes:
Bogmihia
15-11-2005, 06:13
Sure it's not 12.3756%?
12.5% means he's 1/8 Austrian, or that one of his great-grandparents was Austrian.

On topic: too many Western Europeans around here. It's time to even things out. For me it's a bit difficult, because Romania can be considered either Balkan or Eastern European. On the other hand, I'm a quarter Russian, so I guess the Eastern part becomes dominant. However, the Russian ancestry is not Russian at all, because my great-grandfather was a German Russian, while his wife, my great-grandmother, was theoretically Russian, but had very narrow eyes and probably had a good deal of Asian blood through her veins. :confused: It's complicated. I'll go with Eastern European.
Bogmihia
15-11-2005, 06:16
Yeah, say that about him, even though I said I was a page ago. :rolleyes:
Maybe he doesn't think you're cool. Maybe he thinks you're hot. :p

Don't get angry, please!
Potaria
15-11-2005, 06:18
Maybe he doesn't think you're cool. Maybe he thinks you're hot. :p

Don't get angry, please!

*shakes fist furiously*
Dakini
15-11-2005, 06:18
I think I checked everything but Russian, Spanish and Low countries (I don't even know what those are)...

Yeah, I'm a mutt.
Neu Leonstein
15-11-2005, 06:18
12.5% means he's 1/8 Austrian, or that one of his great-grandparents was Austrian.
You don't say. ;)

As if it matters to anyone in Australia, or America, or South Africa, or any other immigrant country where they came from. You are from the country you are born in, nothing else.
It's not like there is a genetic difference between a German and a Brit (except maybe if it is a really, really, really, pure-bred Celt).
Bogmihia
15-11-2005, 06:25
You don't say. ;)

As if it matters to anyone in Australia, or America, or South Africa, or any other immigrant country where they came from. You are from the country you are born in, nothing else.
It's not like there is a genetic difference between a German and a Brit (except maybe if it is a really, really, really, pure-bred Celt).
It doesn't matter. Not even for me, I consider myself Romanian and nothing else. But a bit of precision won't do bad. Let's see... I'm 75% Romanian, 12.5% German, 7.1457%Russian and 5.3543% Asian. :p Oh, and a tiny bit of the 75% Romanian might actually be Greek, but I'm not sure, so I didn't include it in my 'official' ancestry.
Ralina
15-11-2005, 08:37
1/2 Lithuanian, 1/4 French and a some other stuff not worth remembering. With blond hair and blue eyes it really shows.
Funky Beat
15-11-2005, 08:46
Polish by blood, Spanish by birth, living in Australia...
Bryce Crusader States
15-11-2005, 08:49
I am about 75% German and 25% Norwegian. I have brown hair and blue eyes. My hair was blond when I was younger though. Although I am the 9th Generation in Canada on my Father's side so the above numbers may be a little off. I think they are pretty close though.
Mariehamn
15-11-2005, 09:29
Polish blood, German name, some Scandinavian, Irish, Scottish, and Native American blood thrown into the mix. 7th or 8th generation American. Ancestors are rumored to be Scandinavian mercenaries in Northern Germany or something, no blond hair or blue eyes. Brown hair, green eyes (where ever that comes from). Short, stocky, intelligent, poor eyesite. Flat feet. 4 generations ago, my family on my fathers side became professionals, after farming for who know how long. Mothers side, I believe my mothers generation is. Genral interest in the arts and boating runs through the family. Methinks Low-Countries are Belgium and Netherland. Not sure. No more to be said.
Amecian
15-11-2005, 09:45
Liste:

Irish[1 gen back]
German[ again, 1 gen back ]
British [ two gens back ]
French Canadian [ 1 gen back ]
Netherlands [ unsure how far back:confused: parents mentioned that when I brought up heritage though so.. ]

:rolleyes:
Osutoria-Hangarii
15-11-2005, 09:55
i was born in a hospital








england, france, ukraine.
Celestial Kingdom
15-11-2005, 10:28
As some may remember german by birth, still living in germany...(though both grandfathers were sailors, so I guess I have relatives all over the world :D )...Grüsse an alle deutschen Teilnehmer und ein hallo auch zu unseren südlichen Cousins in der Schweiz und Österreich
Purple Broken Hearts
15-11-2005, 10:47
I'm pretty boring. I was born and raised in England and all my mum's family are Irish. My mum is half-Irish. As she married my dad, who's English, me and my brother are a quarter Irish and we stay with our grandparents in Waterford every summer. Told you it wasn't interesting.
Nadkor
15-11-2005, 10:48
English, Irish, Norman (like, the proper Normans), Scottish. Probably more if I look.
SuperQueensland
15-11-2005, 10:53
is Italy a "low country"?
Nadkor
15-11-2005, 10:54
is Italy a "low country"?
Nope, the Low Countries are the Netherlands and the bits in round there. Where it's low. Lower than the sea in many places.
The Crescent Sun
15-11-2005, 10:57
One fourth is Norweigan, one fourth is Danish and half is Swedish (The better half)
Borgoa
15-11-2005, 11:28
Nordic/Scandinavian.

50% Swedish, 50% Finland-Swedish (so they are prob descended from Swedes going back to when we ran the place... so I'm pretty much 100% Swede).
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It's interesting to see Americans value where in Europe their families came from... and yet equally strange that so few own a passport, and thus presumably have never visited the countries of their ancestors.
Wallonochia
15-11-2005, 15:04
As if it matters to anyone in Australia, or America, or South Africa, or any other immigrant country where they came from. You are from the country you are born in, nothing else.
It's not like there is a genetic difference between a German and a Brit (except maybe if it is a really, really, really, pure-bred Celt).

Well, being part Chippewa means I don't get sunburned :D

Beyond that it doesn't really matter. Ancestry in America is more of a diversion than anything else. A hobby, if you will. Some people care, and for some people its a vital part of their identity, but for most its just something to do.

It's interesting to see Americans value where in Europe their families came from... and yet equally strange that so few own a passport, and thus presumably have never visited the countries of their ancestors.

I was stationed in Hessen (where my ancestors are from) for two years, and I was probably the first of my family to go back since 1775. Never went to England or Ireland, but I technically live on Chippewa land. So I guess I've lived in 2 out of 4 of my ancestral homelands.
Enrosol
15-11-2005, 16:49
I'm British, Scottish, Italian, and Rhodesian. My dad was born in Rhodesia, along with most of his family, Now, Rhodesia is called Zimbabwe.
Most of all, I'm Canadian, cuz hell, I was born here.
Psychotic Mongooses
15-11-2005, 16:54
Well I'm Irish born and bred. As as my parents... and their parents etc etc.

But my fathers ancestors were Huguenots that emigrated from France in the 1700's.

My mothers family is Irish all the way back, though probably mingles with the Norman-Irish if I go back far enough.

So, I clicked France. :p
The blessed Chris
15-11-2005, 17:31
I'm three quarters Irish in terms of blood, one of my ancestors was hung for killing a British lord near cork:)

I'm english in terms of birth though, not too much of a problem right now, after saturday:p
The Atlantian islands
15-11-2005, 21:33
12.5% means he's 1/8 Austrian, or that one of his great-grandparents was Austrian.

On topic: too many Western Europeans around here. It's time to even things out. For me it's a bit difficult, because Romania can be considered either Balkan or Eastern European. On the other hand, I'm a quarter Russian, so I guess the Eastern part becomes dominant. However, the Russian ancestry is not Russian at all, because my great-grandfather was a German Russian, while his wife, my great-grandmother, was theoretically Russian, but had very narrow eyes and probably had a good deal of Asian blood through her veins. :confused: It's complicated. I'll go with Eastern European.

Well...I dont think Russia is really Eastern Europe. Russia is really its own thing. Eastern Europe is more Poland, The Ukraine, Romania, lithuania......all those countries.....Russia, atleast as I have been taught and come to think of it really just is its own thing. Thats why I sepererated Russian and Eastern European
The Atlantian islands
15-11-2005, 21:45
You don't say. ;)

As if it matters to anyone in Australia, or America, or South Africa, or any other immigrant country where they came from. You are from the country you are born in, nothing else.
It's not like there is a genetic difference between a German and a Brit (except maybe if it is a really, really, really, pure-bred Celt).

Of course there are differences....They are two different groups of people. Anglos, and Germanics....although I guess the Germans and the English did mix a while back...Anglo-Saxons....But there are differences between Nordics, Germanics, Slavics, French, Southern Europeans...all that.
The Atlantian islands
15-11-2005, 21:48
Polish blood, German name, some Scandinavian, Irish, Scottish, and Native American blood thrown into the mix. 7th or 8th generation American. Ancestors are rumored to be Scandinavian mercenaries in Northern Germany or something, no blond hair or blue eyes. Brown hair, green eyes (where ever that comes from). Short, stocky, intelligent, poor eyesite. Flat feet. 4 generations ago, my family on my fathers side became professionals, after farming for who know how long. Mothers side, I believe my mothers generation is. Genral interest in the arts and boating runs through the family. Methinks Low-Countries are Belgium and Netherland. Not sure. No more to be said.

Well since we are getting into descrbing ourselves ill just go into more detail. I am German (Prussian), Austrian, and Russian....so I guess that is Germanic, Nordic (Iv heard that Northern Germans are Nordic and Prussia is/was Northern Germany...not sure...please correct me if I'm wrong), and Russian......I am tall, about 6'3 have very light blonde hair, and green eyes...Iv been told that I look like a Viking...however I prefer Prussian because the Prussians would have kicked the Vikings ass's any day of the week.:p
The Helghan Empire
15-11-2005, 21:58
My mother's side of the family is entirely Asian Indian. Though my mom, I think, was born in America (I forget). My father is a little Scottish, I forget if that's true too. So I'm Asian Indian, very little Scottish, and the rest American, if that's an ethic backround (taking out Native American). But if American is just a covenant, then I don't know what the rest is. Funny, I don't look Indian, except for the black hair, and the little bit of tan in me.
Argesia
15-11-2005, 22:07
Ok people, who is Balkan like yours truly?
The Atlantian islands
15-11-2005, 22:20
Ok people, who is Balkan like yours truly?

Cant say I am, lol
Dehny
15-11-2005, 22:31
"i dont buy into this whole my great grandfather was an 8th irish so im part irish" pish

Father= German
Mother=Scottish
Argesia
15-11-2005, 22:35
Cant say I am, lol
You're not missing much.
Argesia
15-11-2005, 22:39
Cant say I am, lol
You ain't missing much.
Ifreann
15-11-2005, 22:44
I'm mostly Irish.my viking ancestors invaded and settled in normandy,their descendants invaded and settled in england,their descendants invaded and settled in ireland,and their descendants are me.i havent invaded or settled anywhere yet
The Atlantian islands
15-11-2005, 23:02
You're not missing much.

lol, why, what do you look like?
The Atlantian islands
15-11-2005, 23:04
I'm mostly Irish.my viking ancestors invaded and settled in normandy,their descendants invaded and settled in england,their descendants invaded and settled in ireland,and their descendants are me.i havent invaded or settled anywhere yet

Well get crackin!
Ifreann
15-11-2005, 23:07
Well get crackin!
Ill just say one thing:look out france,im comin home


mwahahahahahahahahaha
Argesia
15-11-2005, 23:10
lol, why, what do you look like?
I have light skin, dark brown hair (with red hues in certain lights - red as in red, not orange), brown eyes and am quite tall.

Generic.
Cwazybushland
15-11-2005, 23:15
British isles, but more specifically, Welsh.
Nadkor
15-11-2005, 23:17
I'm mostly Irish.my viking ancestors invaded and settled in normandy,their descendants invaded and settled in england,their descendants invaded and settled in ireland,and their descendants are me.i havent invaded or settled anywhere yet
Exactly the same as me.
Hoos Bandoland
15-11-2005, 23:22
What is your background?....European backgrounds on the poll only as I dont have the time to do it from everywhere in the world and the limit is 10 options.....Im not a freaking racists so before anyone trys to say anything just relax....its just an online forum.

If it is not on there and you would like to post your background, please feel free...remember there are only 10 slots avaliable for options...Also some are more general I.E. Scandanavia or British Isles...so if you select an option like that please post specificly what your heritage is....I.E. Norwegian or Irish.

Thanks...

Ill start with my own.. I clicked German because I am Prussian (from Berlin), also German from Bavaria, and Austrian from Austria...I am also Russian.

Um ... American. :rolleyes:
Ifreann
15-11-2005, 23:23
Exactly the same as me.

Pfft,no.your family just followed mine
Nadkor
15-11-2005, 23:24
Pfft,no.your family just followed mine
Back when my family was the King, aye? :p ;)
Lewdies
15-11-2005, 23:25
I'm mostly Irish.my viking ancestors invaded and settled in normandy,their descendants invaded and settled in england,their descendants invaded and settled in ireland,and their descendants are me.i havent invaded or settled anywhere yet
That's a lot like my mother's side of my family. I'm ~60% Irish, ~30% English and ~10% Norwegian.
Neu Leonstein
16-11-2005, 00:03
Of course there are differences....They are two different groups of people. Anglos, and Germanics....although I guess the Germans and the English did mix a while back...Anglo-Saxons....
Angles are a Germanic tribe. Saxons are a Germanic Tribe.

But there are differences between Nordics, Germanics, Slavics, French, Southern Europeans...all that.
None worth mentioning. They are all indogermanic people (although I'm not sure about the Slavs).
The only differences worth anything are the cultural ones, and we already established that the culture of these guys is usually Australian, American, South African, or whatever country they were born in.
Pure Metal
16-11-2005, 00:29
my mum's german/polish. my dad is 100% welsh.
apparently we have some norweigan and russian in our family too

but i was born in london (near enough)


so go figure
The Atlantian islands
16-11-2005, 00:54
Angles are a Germanic tribe. Saxons are a Germanic Tribe.


None worth mentioning. They are all indogermanic people (although I'm not sure about the Slavs).
The only differences worth anything are the cultural ones, and we already established that the culture of these guys is usually Australian, American, South African, or whatever country they were born in.

Actually...after looking it up, you seem to be right about the Nordics and Germanics. They seem to be of the same "race" (or is it sub race, I dont really know the word for it). The only difference, like you said is cultural. So while the Nordics were the Vikings, and the Germanics were the Germans, they were really the same people, geneticly. As for Slavic, they are a different people....They are (easter european) usually darker skin, not dark, just darker then nordics and germanics, and I think green eyes is a Slavic trait...Russians I think are a mix of Nordic-germanics, slavics, and asians...Southern Europeans are a different "race" also, and the French...well I'm not exactly sure. I know Northern France is is Nordic after the Scandanavians settled there, but as for the rest of France, I'm not exactly sure....Any Frenchies or people that know about the French wish to fill me in?
The Atlantian islands
16-11-2005, 00:57
Um ... American. :rolleyes:

American isnt a background as it was founded in the late 1700's. So unless your family just kinda appeared there, I am pretty sure you have a background.
Neu Leonstein
16-11-2005, 01:05
Actually...after looking it up, you seem to be right about the Nordics and Germanics....
There are only two "races" in Europe: The Celts, who lived in Britain, Spain and Western France, and were pushed further to the fringes in ancient times, and the Indo-Europeans, who include Nordic peoples, Germanic peoples, Romanic peoples and Slavic Peoples.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European
Pure Metal
16-11-2005, 01:12
There are only two "races" in Europe: The Celts, who lived in Britain, Spain and Western France, and were pushed further to the fringes in ancient times, and the Indo-Europeans, who include Nordic peoples, Germanic peoples, Romanic peoples and Slavic Peoples.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European
yes! i get to be a mix of half of each! go me :p
The Atlantian islands
16-11-2005, 01:27
There are only two "races" in Europe: The Celts, who lived in Britain, Spain and Western France, and were pushed further to the fringes in ancient times, and the Indo-Europeans, who include Nordic peoples, Germanic peoples, Romanic peoples and Slavic Peoples.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European

Yes but that is SO general. Thats just as useful as the "Human race" term. Those people in the whatever you want to call them "sub-races" are very different from each other, both racially and culturly.
Neu Leonstein
16-11-2005, 01:36
Yes but that is SO general. Thats just as useful as the "Human race" term. Those people in the whatever you want to call them "sub-races" are very different from each other, both racially and culturly.
I accept culturally...but I don't see racial differences. Skin Colour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_colour) is only a matter of sunlight and UV Radiation - not race. Give someone from any race enough generations in a different environment and the skin colour will change. That doesn't mean though that now suddenly one has different "racial traits".
The Atlantian islands
16-11-2005, 02:02
I accept culturally...but I don't see racial differences. Skin Colour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_colour) is only a matter of sunlight and UV Radiation - not race. Give someone from any race enough generations in a different environment and the skin colour will change. That doesn't mean though that now suddenly one has different "racial traits".

What about eye color, height, facial features, hair color, body build.
Neu Leonstein
16-11-2005, 02:05
What about eye color, height, facial features, hair color, body build.
They're all mutations based on the environment. Take the Hutu and put them into Scandinavia, wait a thousand years or so, and the Hutu will be Swedes.

And besides, what does it matter? It's not like there is any difference between the important bits (ie the brain) of a Hutu or Swede.
The Atlantian islands
16-11-2005, 02:13
They're all mutations based on the environment. Take the Hutu and put them into Scandinavia, wait a thousand years or so, and the Hutu will be Swedes.

And besides, what does it matter? It's not like there is any difference between the important bits (ie the brain) of a Hutu or Swede.

Why it matters has nothing to do with our conversation. That there is a difference, however, has everything to do with our conversation.
Neu Leonstein
16-11-2005, 02:18
Why it matters has nothing to do with our conversation. That there is a difference, however, has everything to do with our conversation.
I guess we kinda agree - but I still don't really know what the purpose of the thread is.
The Atlantian islands
16-11-2005, 02:24
I guess we kinda agree - but I still don't really know what the purpose of the thread is.

My point was that there are differences between the "races" or "subraces". My point had nothing to do with any being better than the other, or why differences matter, but instead on the simple fact that there are differences. If we agree on that, then we agree. As for the purpose of this thread. Thats easy, to state your background. Which, has nothing to do, whatsoever, with your country of nationality currently, unless you currently live in the country of your background.
The Atlantian islands
16-11-2005, 03:18
Anyone know why it says sometimes deadly under my name, as I didnt put it there?
Neu Leonstein
16-11-2005, 03:19
Anyone know why it says sometimes deadly under my name, as I didnt put it there?
Depends on your post count. Ever so often you get to the next category, and it says something else under your name.
I believe I am a "Pimp" right now...
The Atlantian islands
16-11-2005, 03:51
Depends on your post count. Ever so often you get to the next category, and it says something else under your name.
I believe I am a "Pimp" right now...

Ah, thanks my good German buddy
Monkeypimp
16-11-2005, 03:57
Depends on your post count. Ever so often you get to the next category, and it says something else under your name.
I believe I am a "Pimp" right now...


I never got to be 'Pimp' :(
The Psyker
16-11-2005, 06:26
There are only two "races" in Europe: The Celts, who lived in Britain, Spain and Western France, and were pushed further to the fringes in ancient times, and the Indo-Europeans, who include Nordic peoples, Germanic peoples, Romanic peoples and Slavic Peoples.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European
Actually I'm pretty sure that the Celts were also part of the Indo-European language family.
The Psyker
16-11-2005, 06:31
12.5% means he's 1/8 Austrian, or that one of his great-grandparents was Austrian.

On topic: too many Western Europeans around here. It's time to even things out. For me it's a bit difficult, because Romania can be considered either Balkan or Eastern European. On the other hand, I'm a quarter Russian, so I guess the Eastern part becomes dominant. However, the Russian ancestry is not Russian at all, because my great-grandfather was a German Russian, while his wife, my great-grandmother, was theoretically Russian, but had very narrow eyes and probably had a good deal of Asian blood through her veins. :confused: It's complicated. I'll go with Eastern European.
Yep, kind of embarrassed about the relative exactness of my answer now, but I just really find geneology interesting the etemology for names is also a real cool subject.
Neu Leonstein
16-11-2005, 06:34
Actually I'm pretty sure that the Celts were also part of the Indo-European language family.
:eek:

True that. Ignore everything I said...now there is only one race in Europe.
The Psyker
16-11-2005, 06:38
You don't say. ;)

As if it matters to anyone in Australia, or America, or South Africa, or any other immigrant country where they came from. You are from the country you are born in, nothing else.
It's not like there is a genetic difference between a German and a Brit (except maybe if it is a really, really, really, pure-bred Celt).
I think that some of this might be a bit of an interest americans, can't talk for other countries so I'll just present a guess for my countrymen, have in their heritage resulting from the majority of us being decended from immigrants and still hold a few of the traditions of our ancestors as family traditions and such as well as just a general interest in were we came from. This is of course just a guess based of my experiance.
Avarhierrim
16-11-2005, 06:51
I've got ancestors from the Orkneys and the Hebrides, and some from the east coast of North America, too. But there weren't any options other than European, so I had to vote 'British Isles'.

excellent my great-grandfather was from the Hebrides; Isle of Louey (?) and the rest of my heritage is spanish, french, english, irish, welsh.

Australians dont care about their heritage? we do. My freinds all know their family line from beyond the first fleet.
The Atlantian islands
17-11-2005, 05:14
excellent my great-grandfather was from the Hebrides; Isle of Louey (?) and the rest of my heritage is spanish, french, english, irish, welsh.

Australians dont care about their heritage? we do. My freinds all know their family line from beyond the first fleet.

Well, there you go...theres proof. Its not just us crazy Americans lol
The Atlantian islands
17-11-2005, 05:16
:eek:

True that. Ignore everything I said...now there is only one race in Europe.

Omg, come on. If your going to be like that why dont you just say we are all humans, or multicellular oganisms.....my point is that there are differences between the races, sub-races, groups, or whatever you want to call them. The people of Europe are not all the same people. Your gonna tell me that a Slav is the same person as an Irish?
Hoos Bandoland
17-11-2005, 21:04
American isnt a background as it was founded in the late 1700's. So unless your family just kinda appeared there, I am pretty sure you have a background.

My family's been in America for as long as we can trace it back.
The Atlantian islands
17-11-2005, 21:12
My family's been in America for as long as we can trace it back.
Ok, so then your backround is unknown. America is young, and is NOT a background. The only thing close to it would be if your Native American. But their backgrounds arnt American, their North American, as there was no United States of America.
Red East
17-11-2005, 21:45
I'm croatian, czech, serb, german and russian.

Not that I care really.
Bambambambambam
17-11-2005, 21:49
If you consider parents, I'm 100% British.

Generations back, I'm 64th American, 16th german, 4th Scottish.

But if you go back far enough, there's no countries as such - so, to completely totally technically accurate, everyone is 100% Earthling. :confused:
Eutrusca
17-11-2005, 21:51
"Whats your background?"

I'm about 1/8 Swedish, but the rest is sufficient for me to refer to myself as a "mutt." Mutts iz da best in a scrap ... dey kick azz! :D
Halandra
17-11-2005, 22:42
Anglo, Spanish, Swedish (and most likely a little bit of Amerindian) by way of Argentina. Horray for mutts. :)
Carops
17-11-2005, 23:27
English through and through. As far back as anybody knows and remembers.
[NS]Goddistan
17-11-2005, 23:55
I thought he meant the background on one's computer screen!

Thus:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/galejb/Alba2.jpg
The Atlantian islands
18-11-2005, 00:07
Ahhh, thats nice;)
PersonalHappiness
18-11-2005, 00:49
I'm Tyrolean (Northern Tyrol is part of Austria, at the moment), and so are my ancestors, back to something like 1120 (or was it 1210?). Parts of Tyrol are Italian today, so I have blood relatives in Italy. Doesn't make me Italian, does it?
Hoos Bandoland
29-11-2005, 20:30
Ok, so then your backround is unknown. America is young, and is NOT a background. The only thing close to it would be if your Native American. .

I AM a Native American. I was born in this country.
The Atlantian islands
11-02-2006, 01:18
I AM a Native American. I was born in this country.

But are you an American Indian?

Also...just showing New-Lexington that there already has been an ethinicity post before.
Cheeseita
11-02-2006, 21:53
I'm basicly completly Welsh (born and raised) but my Mums family are English.

And there IS a difference.
Lesser Russia
11-02-2006, 22:05
In order of most to least: Scottish, Irish, German, Welsh, and maybe a touch of French. I hope not, though.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
12-02-2006, 02:31
On my father's side: German
On my mother's side: German, Italian, Spanish, French

I only know like 4 generations or so back, genealogy isn't very big in Germany (it's starting to be, though).
The Atlantian islands
12-02-2006, 05:19
On my father's side: German
On my mother's side: German, Italian, Spanish, French

I only know like 4 generations or so back, genealogy isn't very big in Germany (it's starting to be, though).

Its big in America, though mostly just among Whites.
Preebs
12-02-2006, 12:30
My family was from Bengal and um... various other parts of North India before we were taken to South Africa as indentured labourers. I thnk part of my family may be Persian, based on appearance and names (distincly Persian/Muslim, although the people were Hindus) but I can't be sure.
Mariehamn
12-02-2006, 12:43
But they don't actually know. It's stupid, most people claim whatever they want.
And besides, it doesn't make the slightest bit of a difference. You are American, not German, not British, not French.
*looks at ressurected thread, is infuriated*

Do I have to wave the immigration documents in your face?!

There isn't "American" blood. There's First Nation and Native American blood. Your background is your blood!
Palaios
12-02-2006, 13:15
7/8th dutch, and 1/8th polish. As far as i know, that is.
The Atlantian islands
12-02-2006, 15:35
*looks at ressurected thread, is infuriated*

Do I have to wave the immigration documents in your face?!

There isn't "American" blood. There's First Nation and Native American blood. Your background is your blood!

Exaclty.

And we do know. Many people can talk to their parents or grandparents and get their immigration stories first hand, while others can simply look at the paper work that families often have.

While it may not be important for Europeans, America IS a nation of immigrants, and we like to see where we came from.

There is a difference between being French and being German. Although I wont argue with him that we ARE Americans.
Cheese penguins
12-02-2006, 15:39
Im scottish, plain and simple.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
12-02-2006, 15:51
Its big in America, though mostly just among Whites.
Well, duh.
Heavenly Sex
12-02-2006, 15:53
My ancestors came from Great Britain, France and Italy (with the latter sorely lacking from the poll :rolleyes: )

What is your background?....European backgrounds on the poll only as I dont have the time to do it from everywhere in the world and the limit is 10 options...
Huh? So what's the Balkan doing in there if you want just European? You should've better put Italy in there instead!
The Half-Hidden
12-02-2006, 15:56
My family has lived in Ireland since the Norman invasion of 1171. Before that they lived in England.
The Atlantian islands
12-02-2006, 16:02
Well, duh.

Well, minorities are immigrants and have backgrounds also, its not just like they appeared on our border out of no where......Oh wait....:p
The Atlantian islands
12-02-2006, 16:03
My ancestors came from Great Britain, France and Italy (with the latter sorely lacking from the poll :rolleyes: )


Huh? So what's the Balkan doing in there if you want just European? You should've better put Italy in there instead!

Uh oh...Now you've done it, cant wait for some die hard Euro lefties to tell you all about how the Balkans are in Europe.

Although I agree, I should have put Italy in there over the Balkans...:p
Whereyouthinkyougoing
12-02-2006, 16:10
Well, minorities are immigrants and have backgrounds also, its not just like they appeared on our border out of no where......Oh wait....:p
Actually, I was more thinking along the lines of how the slave traders likely didn't keep quite as nice & tidy records as, say, Ellis Island...
Krauzer
12-02-2006, 16:10
me= half italian, half Polish:gundge:
Avropolis
12-02-2006, 16:19
English.

Thats pretty much it really, Grandparents and such were all 1/4 this and that so if I went back far enough I'm sure I'd find other stuff, but really just English.

Interestingly enough my family name goes bloody far back, earliest reference I have found so far is 1066, I can't find out whether we were on the Normans side or not though :)
Shinners
12-02-2006, 16:21
Are most of these posts coming from originally "white Europeans"?

By the way I'm Irish.
Markiria
12-02-2006, 16:29
Im mix but on my white side i come from<Scoutland,denmark,iralend,Someother european countries

Then on my black side im not for sure
Go Denmark!!!
The Beehive
12-02-2006, 17:00
irish and lebanese .-.
The Atlantian islands
12-02-2006, 17:42
Actually, I was more thinking along the lines of how the slave traders likely didn't keep quite as nice & tidy records as, say, Ellis Island...

I know this may seem like news to you, but not ALL American minorities are brought over from the raped continent of Africa as slaves for the lazy white man...:rolleyes:
Whereyouthinkyougoing
12-02-2006, 18:24
I know this may seem like news to you, but not ALL American minorities are brought over from the raped continent of Africa as slaves for the lazy white man...:rolleyes:

Just like you were apparently talking about more recent immigrants like Hispanics and Asian-Americans in your post ("Well, minorities are immigrants and have backgrounds also, its not just like they appeared on our border out of no where......Oh wait....:p") I was talking about African-Americans.
Doesn't exactly seem like there's something to roll your eyes at.
Cataduanes
13-02-2006, 11:06
Bit complicated but essentially German-Filopino...but if you really what to go down to roots my father is of mixed Frisian and Bavarian descent while my mother is mix of Chinese, Filopino Malay and Spanish.
Omstia
13-02-2006, 16:42
I am Irish but my grandfather was from Leicstershire in England and my surname is Norman, so I havesome very distant Viking and French anscestors. I amnt related to much Celtic names... which is odd here..
Frangland
13-02-2006, 17:09
Dad's dad:
English (norman, likely... the name's in the Domesday Book)

Dad's mom:
English, Welsh (and going back further, she's descended from Henry II --- whose ancestors were English (House of Wessex), French, Norman, Scandinavian, Saxons, Jutes, Scots... respectively: Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Hugh Capet, William I, Rollo of Norway, Hengest the Saxon, Wihtgils the Jute, Matilda of Scotland)

Mom's dad:
German (Bauer)

Mom's mom:
English, German
Kanabia
13-02-2006, 18:11
English/Lithuanian (Father's side...I have been lumped with the Lithuanian surname.)

Irish/German (Mother's side...the German may or may not be a technicality, my great-grandfather coincidentally also came from what is now Lithuania and might have simply adopted a German name as the region he was born in happened to be part of Germany at the time. I think my great-grandmother was also of east-european descent.)