NationStates Jolt Archive


New York Times Hires Ignorant Reporters

Deep Kimchi
14-11-2005, 03:22
Well, there was Judith Miller, and Jayson Blair, and now this...

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/13/international/middleeast/13rice.html?pagewanted=all

The MSM constantly lecture us that one big advantage for their readers lies in the fact that editors and fact checkers ensure that the information they present is reliable, unlike those nasty bloggers. The New York Times is supposed to be the most prestigious, best member of the daily press fraternity, so you can rely on it more than, say, on us.

Yet their Middle East writer Steven Weissman, who never has a kind word for Israel, writes something as ludicrously stupid as this? (In an article with a dateline in the Arab world!):

"Egypt represents more than half the population of the Arab world…"

And why would the editors and fact checkers at the Times allow such a false assertion to appear in print? Only one conclusions is possible: nobody at the Times has more than a casual aquaintance with the basic subjects about which they are supposed to be expert. Egypt accounts for more like one quarter of the Arab population of the world, a fact readily ascertainable within seconds on the internet.

To be sure, Egypt is the biggest single Arab country in terms of population, but to believe that it has more than half the Arab population would require the same degree of ignorance as to believe that California has a quarter of the population of the United States. Any moderately-informed observer would know that to be an overstatement.
Neu Leonstein
14-11-2005, 03:27
Yet their Middle East writer Steven Weissman, who never has a kind word for Israel, writes something as ludicrously stupid as this?
Weissman is a Jewish name, is it not?

"Egypt represents more than half the population of the Arab world…"
...Egypt accounts for more like one quarter of the Arab population of the world, a fact readily ascertainable within seconds on the internet.
See the difference?

First you need to see what constitutes the "Arab World".
Teh_pantless_hero
14-11-2005, 03:29
Damn Israeli hating, pro-Arab, Jewish-by-birth guy.
Katganistan
14-11-2005, 03:33
There is also a difference between ignorant and dishonest.
NERVUN
14-11-2005, 03:35
One, your point about representing over half the Arab World is the same as having half inside its borders doesn't make any sense.

Two your linking of one sentence to previous reporters who made up stories makes even less sense.
Desperate Measures
14-11-2005, 03:38
The New York Times is supposed to be the most prestigious, best member of the daily press fraternity, so you can rely on it more than, say, on us.

I don't trust anything you guys say.
Der Drache
14-11-2005, 04:51
I've long sinced learned you have to do your own fact checking. I don't know anything about the validity of this story. But I would guess maybe the major newsources get at least one significant piece of info wrong over 80% of the time. Everytime I have witnessed or had knowledge in something that was reported in the news it has almost always been wrong (this includes the NY Times). And in those personal cases it wasn't just partly wrong, but wrong to the point that it changed the entire meaning of the story.
Gauthier
14-11-2005, 04:57
So basically the OP is advocating Ann Coulter's "Let's bomb the shit out of the New York Times" approach with this latest tirade.