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I know I'm gonna catch shit for mentioning the "Great Satan" of news channels, but oh well. Tonight at 8pm est. there is a special on, called "The heat is on, a case for global warming" which I think everybody should watch.

Basically, from the snippets Ive seen, it's gonna get scary in the next few decades.

8pm est. Fox news network. Global warming. We're all gonna die. Be there!

I know I'm gonna catch shit for mentioning the "Great Satan" of news channels, but oh well. Tonight at 8pm est. there is a special on, called "The heat is on, a case for global warming" which I think everybody should watch.

Basically, from the snippets Ive seen, it's gonna get scary in the next few decades.

8pm est. Fox news network. Global warming. We're all gonna die. Be there!
Wow so now that it's on FauxNews it's for real. I am so not at all surprised.

Wow so now that it's on FauxNews it's for real. I am so not at all surprised.
Pretty typical of you. I bring up a good show that people should watch, but since it's on Fox, you'd rather be a douchebag, instead of 1)commenting in an adult manner 2)staying the fuck out of it.

I am so not surprised at all.

took them long enoug.global warming is old news in the rest of the world.

You fucking people just can't get over your loathing of Fox, can you? Watch the fucking show, or don't watch the fucking show.

Whatever, you fucking broken records.

fox news takes forever to catch on to anything bad unless democrats started it.

"Billy Bob McFake here for fox news. We are getting reports a fire might have broken out and destroyed chicago. I have not spoken to anyone even remotely connected to the story, but it appears it was started by a cow who kicked over a lamp, probably because it was tired of high, DEMOCRAT IMPOSED taxes.

It's all sensationalized...Global warming is a problem, but they always give us the worst case scenario. Who knows, maybe global warming will end the drought in Sudan or something? No one can possibly tell.

Another thing.....has anyone else noticed that no matter where you go, from Boston to LA Fox news always reports the exact same stuff in the same order?

Its something like this

Murder
Murder
Accident
Public Relations
Sneak Weather
Public Relations
DANGER TO THE CHILDREN
Another Weather
Cutesy Animal Story
Something completely insignificant from somewhere else in the country (ie, a bad fire or car crash)
Real Weather
Famous shit no one cares about either...

Or is that just me?

Have any of you seen the episode of the simpsons where Krusty runs for president, and he has a debate on fox news? Hilarious parody...

You fucking people just can't get over your loathing of Fox, can you? Watch the fucking show, or don't watch the fucking show.

Whatever, you fucking broken records.

Or maybe we just don't care?

See, this is my caring face :rolleyes:

Adding in that "Warning" to your initial post is rather childish. Global Warming is a reality the rest of the planet has known about for quite some time. Choosing to get snitty, and using less-than-appropriate profanities doesn't alter that fact.

Someone sounds frightened and alone...curled up on the couch with his Tickle Me Hannity doll.

Adding in that "Warning" to your initial post is rather childish. Global Warming is a reality the rest of the planet has known about for quite some time. Choosing to get snitty, and using less-than-appropriate profanities doesn't alter that fact.
If it's so damn important, and it seems to be something I'm taking an interest in, then why come one shout FOX SUCKS! instead of being nice about it, and maybe trying to discuss it with me?

Who's childish? I was trying to help people out who may not have all the facts about global warming.

Someone sounds frightened and alone...curled up on the couch with his Tickle Me Hannity doll.
Sounds like someone would rather be a partisan hack than an intelligent poster.

Who's childish? I was trying to help people out who may not have all the facts about global warming.
I'd say it's primarily the regular consumers of FoxNews programming who are in the greatest need of factual information re: Global Warming, and as such their glaring needs will hopefully be met by this evening's fare.

Though I really wouldn't necessarily count on it.

I'd say it's primarily the regular consumers of FoxNews programming who are in the greatest need of factual information re: Global Warming, and as such their glaring needs will hopefully be met by this evening's fare.

Though I really wouldn't necessarily count on it.
Not much of a comment, but considering your usual lack of anything helpful to say, I'm actually going to consider this a positive addition to the thread. :rolleyes:

You fucking people just can't get over your loathing of Fox, can you? Watch the fucking show, or don't watch the fucking show.

Whatever, you fucking broken records.

And you wonder why people keep reporting you to the mods. Be a more pleasant person and you won't get such negative reception. This is a two-way street.

I'm actually going to consider this a positive addition to the thread.
I'm staggered.

And you wonder why people keep reporting you to the mods. Be a more pleasant person and you won't get such negative reception. This is a two-way street.
And just how am I supposed to be nice when I start a serious thread about a serious issue, and NOT ONE of the posters has ANYTHING nice or helpful to say? Instaed, they attack Fox news like a bunch of rabid Air America hosts.

Just how do you justify blaming this on me?

Sounds like someone would rather be a partisan hack than an intelligent poster.

You're right...and that person started this thread.

If it were a business show, I'd watch it. That's one of the things I like about FNC; they and CNBC have some great economy/investment programs.

SN, you even noted in the first post that by posting something about fox news and global warming you were asking for it, something anyone with half a brain could see, so why complain that this thread is taking the exact same course you knew it would go?

You're right...and that person started this thread.
I started this thread to let people know that if they want to see a show on Global Warming that looks interesting, it will be on tonight at 8pm est.

You sure are bored today, aren't ya?

And just how am I supposed to be nice when I start a serious thread about a serious issue, and NOT ONE of the posters has ANYTHING nice or helpful to say? Instaed, they attack Fox news like a bunch of rabid Air America hosts.

Just how do you justify blaming this on me?
Maybe if you hadn't gone and added in that rather histrionic warning and used variants on the word 'fuck' quite so often on the first page?

SN, you even noted in the first post that by posting something about fox news and global warming you were asking for it, something anyone with half a brain could see, so why complain that this thread is taking the exact same course you knew it would go?
I said I would catch shit for it. I didn't expect that EVERY poster so far would have nothing helpful or intelligent to say.

I was hoping that the intelligent posters would show up, but I guess not.

I was hoping that the intelligent posters would show up, but I guess not.
You're not really going out of your way to play nice and make friends around here, I see.

Maybe if you hadn't gone and added in that rather histrionic warning and used variants on the word 'fuck' quite so often on the first page?
If you'll notice by when it was last edited, I put the warning there after you and your band of merry men showed up for "Partisan Hack" drills.

And you guys wonder why the left and right hate eachother. :rolleyes:

You're not really going out of your way to play nice and make friends around here, I see.
It should be obvious to you by now that I have no desire to be "friends" with people who lack anything inteligent to say.

You're not really going out of your way to play nice and make friends around here, I see.
Agreed.

Maybe if you started out a post with something like this, it would have gone somewhere:
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: Fox News' Global Warming Special: Putting the Conserve Back into Conservatism Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Fri Nov 11, 1:02 AM ET

A Fox News Special “The Heat is On: The Case of Global Warming” airing this Sunday at 8:00 p.m. and 11:00 p.m. EST, documents the devastating impacts that global warming is already having on our planet. In one segment of the show, I accompany a Fox News crew to Glacier National Park in Montana where only 27 of the 150 glaciers that graced the park in 1850 remain--and these will be gone within our generation. The portrayal of global warming in Fox’s piece is both fair and accurate.

I spent a summer in a tent in Africa with Roger Ailes in 1973 making a wildlife film. He is charming, affable, very smart, and very, very funny. Although we both believe that each other’s politics are misguided, we have remained friends for three decades. Last year, I asked Roger, as a personal favor, to attend Al Gore’s New York City update on global warming science. Although he left that presentation still agnostic, he was convinced that the debate deserved a public airing. I argued that since there is no such thing as Republican or Democratic children, global warming should not be a partisan but only a scientific issue. The Fox News team did a superb job exploring the science. This film should be seen be everyone. The end product goes a long way toward putting the conserve back into conservatism.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20051111/cm_huffpost/010452

But you put the words Fox and Global Warming together, without any background and then got surprised by all the insults thrown about. Say something substantial (or let someone else say it for you) and substantial responses are easier to come by.

But you put the words Fox and Global Warming together, without any background and then got surprised by all the insults thrown about. Say something substantial (or let someone else say it for you) and substantial responses are easier to come by.
Good post! I agree with you, I may have been a little lax in my OP, but I hope you don't think I deserved a bunch of dumbass knee jerk reactions.

I shouldn't have to work extra hard on posts just because It contains the word "Fox".

~EDIT~ And thank you, by the way. This wa the first post to include any type of intelligence or forethought.

see, that I would have replied to with seriousness
eg: "I find it interesting that a network that, to my mind, is heavily biased towards the right, would air a special on an issue the republicans are trying to get people to ignore.

see, that I would have replied to with seriousness
eg: "I find it interesting that a network that, to my mind, is heavily biased towards the right, would air a special on an issue the republicans are trying to get people to ignore.
I try to ignore the bias in ALL news sources, and just learn what I can and make up my own mind.

Hell, if Al-Qaeda comes out with a documentary on human rights, I'll watch that too!

The fact that I have to defend myself, instead of discussing global warming is a sad sign of whats really important to some people.

If you'll notice by when it was last edited, I put the warning there after you and your band of merry men showed up for "Partisan Hack" drills.
After you clearly stated that you were fully expecting people with a low opinion of FoxNews to post in this thread. It's interesting that you're implying some sort of concerted effort on the part of these posters to personally attack you, through alluding to Robin Hood (and casting me as Robin, even!). I think you are letting your ego get the better of you, SN. After all, surely you aren't The Sherriff of Nott?
And you guys wonder why the left and right hate eachother.
What guys? If the left and right hate each other, then surely it follows that they're both aware of it. Are you saying that the left doesn't know the right hates the left, or by referring to 'you guys' are you mentioning some hitherto-unmentioned third group?

Who's eating this chicken?

Good post! I agree with you, I may have been a little lax in my OP, but I hope you don't think I deserved a bunch of dumbass knee jerk reactions.

I shouldn't have to work extra hard on posts just because It contains the word "Fox".

~EDIT~ And thank you, by the way. This wa the first post to include any type of intelligence or forethought.
No problem.

After you clearly stated that you were fully expecting people with a low opinion of FoxNews to post in this thread.
Sadly, I was far more intuitive than I thought. But blaming me for your lack of having anything to contribute is pretty weak. I didn't start the flaming, you did.

After you clearly stated that you were fully expecting people with a low opinion of FoxNews to post in this thread. It's interesting that you're implying some sort of concerted effort on the part of these posters to personally attack you, through alluding to Robin Hood (and casting me as Robin, even!). I think you are letting your ego get the better of you, SN. After all, surely you aren't The Sherriff of Nott?

What guys? If the left and right hate each other, then surely it follows that they're both aware of it. Are you saying that the left doesn't know the right hates the left, or by referring to 'you guys' are you mentioning some hitherto-unmentioned third group?

Who's eating this chicken?

Chicken!? I'll have some! :p

And as a democrat I didn't know theu hate us. I thought some Christians were republican: hate is a sin.
Bad, republicans, bad, get on your stool! Get on your Stool!~

But I'm interested if Fox will showcase this with bias or actually do reporting on Global Warming. Sometimes I don't trust them.

So tonight?

And just how am I supposed to be nice when I start a serious thread about a serious issue, and NOT ONE of the posters has ANYTHING nice or helpful to say? Instaed, they attack Fox news like a bunch of rabid Air America hosts.

Just how do you justify blaming this on me?

Because they threw sticks at you and you retaliated with a nuke. Who's going to look like the aggressor? Also you started this thread with a snide comment in the opening post, which was in a way itching for confrontation. So it really doesn't surprise me that it ellicited the negativity that you're getting so angry about.

Chicken!? I'll have some! :p

And as a democrat I didn't know theu hate us. I thought some Christians were republican: hate is a sin.
Bad, republicans, bad, get on your stool! Get on your Stool!~

But I'm interested if Fox will showcase this with bias or actually do reporting on Global Warming. Sometimes I don't trust them.

So tonight?
From what I've seen, this is gonna be one of those "Global warming is our fault, and it's gettin damn bad!" documentaries. Looks like it will be really informative, too!

I would have mentioned that in the OP, but I didn't know I had to be on DEFCON 1 when using the word "Fox" in a thread. Geez :D




~EDIT~ This is where I stopped and smoked a bowl. Much mellower now!

I try to ignore the bias in ALL news sources, and just learn what I can and make up my own mind.

Hell, if Al-Qaeda comes out with a documentary on human rights, I'll watch that too!

The fact that I have to defend myself, instead of discussing global warming is a sad sign of whats really important to some people.

Well, first you were defending FOX, and then you decided to take it personally and started tossing insults around and THEN you had to defend yourself.

Well, first you were defending FOX, and then you decided to take it personally and started tossing insults around and THEN you had to defend yourself.
No need to stoop to any level Gym.
Don't take life so seriously, I'm not lettting you get out of it alive :D

Sadly, I was far more intuitive than I thought. But blaming me for your lack of having anything to contribute is pretty weak. I didn't start the flaming, you did.
You started the flamebaiting.

No need to stoop to any level Gym.
Don't take life so seriously, I'm not lettting you get out of it alive :D

lol, who says I'm taking anything seriously? Puncturing windbags is recreational for me.

You started the flamebaiting.
Anyway, he may have started the flamebaiting by wagging the red cape of FoxNews, but any flaming resulting therefrom was directed at the red cape, not the matador.

Mixed metaphor, I know - but all cleverness be damned, I'm growing weak from hunger. Last proper meal I had was on... Thursday(?) night.

Anyway, he may have started the flamebaiting by wagging the red cape of FoxNews, but any flaming resulting therefrom was directed at the red cape, not the matador.

Mixed metaphor, I know - but all cleverness be damned, I'm growing weak from hunger. Last proper meal I had was on... Thursday(?) night.
I will say this. Whether I did or not, I TRULY didn't mean that as flaimbait. Sorry if it was percieved that way.

I'm ussually alot more rude when I'm flaimbaiting.;)

Anyway, he may have started the flamebaiting by wagging the red cape of FoxNews, but any flaming resulting therefrom was directed at the red cape, not the matador.

Mixed metaphor, I know - but all cleverness be damned, I'm growing weak from hunger. Last proper meal I had was on... Thursday(?) night.
Please turn off your computer for a few hours and sup.

I know I'm gonna catch shit for mentioning the "Great Satan" of news channels, but oh well. Tonight at 8pm est. there is a special on, called "The heat is on, a case for global warming" which I think everybody should watch.

Basically, from the snippets Ive seen, it's gonna get scary in the next few decades.

8pm est. Fox news network. Global warming. We're all gonna die. Be there!

The Great Satan haha, your just mad that everything isn't liberalized to the extreme. Fox is the better of the news channels. Oh go shove a donkey up your A** and watch MSNBC. That newscast makes me sick.

The Great Satan haha, your just mad that everything isn't liberalized to the extreme. Fox is the better of the news channels. Oh go shove a donkey up your A** and watch MSNBC. That newscast makes me sick.

What's funny is that Sick Nighmares is a Fox fan. You just flamed a fellow Fox-critter, which you would have been abundantly aware of if you read more than one post.

Ha ha! (points and laughs.)

When Republicans attack, next on non-stop Fox!

What's funny is that Sick Nighmares is a Fox fan. You just flamed a fellow Fox-critter, which you would have been abundantly aware of if you read more than one post.

Ha ha! (points and laughs.)

When Republicans attack, next on non-stop Fox!
I figured the sarcasm was obvious. *shrugs*

Have any of you seen the episode of the simpsons where Krusty runs for president, and he has a debate on fox news? Hilarious parody...
If only it were a parody...

I'm not sure what I hate more, the way Fox News is so blatently biased, the way gang up against the one moderate left guest for not worshipping the Bush agenda or the way they cut people off mid sentence for defending themselves.

Then again, keep in mind Newscorp is eeril liberal in Australia.

I'm not sure what I hate more, the way Fox News is so blatently biased, the way gang up against the one moderate left guest for not worshipping the Bush agenda or the way they cut people off mid sentence for defending themselves.

Then again, keep in mind Newscorp is eeril liberal in Australia.

They market themselves to the audience that they can make the most money from. If anything, it's good business sense to tailor your programs and political leanings to the most profitable audience in each country. It might not be honest, but it's good business sense.

Of course, Fox's conservative slant might explain the comparative superiority of their business shows, but that's another debate.:p

I know I'm gonna catch shit for mentioning the "Great Satan" of news channels, but oh well. Tonight at 8pm est. there is a special on, called "The heat is on, a case for global warming" which I think everybody should watch.

Basically, from the snippets Ive seen, it's gonna get scary in the next few decades.

8pm est. Fox news network. Global warming. We're all gonna die. Be there!

Ssshhhh....you'll blow the opinion fostered on NS that FOX is all far right wing propoganda. Why do you think they kept it so quiet that General Wesley Clarke and other leading Democrats are regular political analysts on that channel?

Ssshhhh....you'll blow the opinion fostered on NS that FOX is all far right wing propoganda. Why do you think they kept it so quiet that General Wesley Clarke and other leading Democrats are regular political analysts on that channel?

Well, it may not be completely right wing propaganda, but that seems to be a big part of it.

Yes, I have actually watched FOX News...

And just how am I supposed to be nice when I start a serious thread about a serious issue, and NOT ONE of the posters has ANYTHING nice or helpful to say?
Which does beg the question though, just what were you hoping for? I mean as the program has/had not aired yet when you posted so it's hard to have a discussion about what was presented when it hasn't been presented yet.

So how was the show? I don't get it here.

So how was the show? I don't get it here.
It was pretty depressing. Basically, it says the earth is warming up real fast, way faster than it should be. Lets just say I hope everyone liked Katrina.

~EDIT~ Oh yeah, it's humanities fault too. :(

Oh yeah, it's humanities fault too.
So do you now think you and other FoxNews viewers are now up to speed on the issue?

I dont believe this there is no way Marty Mcfly could have gone Back to the Future and altered the Atmosphere.

Personally, I think the worry about global warming is a whole lot of hyperventilation over nothing. There have been changes in climate occuring in cycles ongoing for a long long time. Obviously we are in a warming trend now. No big deal. It will cool off again, given time. For every panic stricken news brief about global warming, you can, if you look, also find something that bears this cyclical warming/cooling trends theory out.

http://www.proenviro.com/UK/news/latest/archives/2005/07/stalagmite_fuel.htm

It's funny. It's so damn funny. I just can't believe it. You would think that the Foxbashing trend would have ended by now. Nope, still going strong. People who most likely have never even WATCHED Fox news bash it. Incredible. What do you, want to fit in? Well, guess what? It's a bit hard to jump on the bandwagon when it's already a mile down the road.

Drop the Foxbashing bullshit. (Excuse the profanity. It's the only thing that can sum it up.) You and I both know that we can have a perfectly mature discussion regarding global warming without someone yelling "OMG RIGHT-WING NEWZ R TEH SUX FOX BLOWZ."

CNN is just as biased as Fox. Everything's biased. There is no such thing as a neutral news medium.

EDIT: So how was the show? I think I missed it.

There is no such thing as a neutral news medium.
Not in the United States, apparently.

And more's the shame in that...

Not in the United States, apparently.

And more's the shame in that...
Everywhere ;)
BBC, Fox, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, AlJazeera, the list goes on... nothing's completely neutral. Other than the phrase, "Someone did something today. They did things that involved stuff." But knowing the media, it would soon turn into a full investigation with witness interviews and press briefings.
;)

Not in the United States, apparently.

And more's the shame in that...
It's probably got to do with this trend in the States that the News needs to entertain - and part of that has to do with telling people what they want to hear.
People get annoyed at the news in Europe or Australia too, but that doesn't generally mean that they demand a different station that tells them things they agree with.

It's probably got to do with this trend in the States that the News needs to entertain - and part of that has to do with telling people what they want to hear.
People get annoyed at the news in Europe or Australia too, but that doesn't generally mean that they demand a different station that tells them things they agree with.
Hearing what we want to hear in America is a luxury that we no longer can afford. But as long as there are Ted Turners, Rupert Murdocs and Michael Grades, we'll always have biased media, blatantly forcing their opinions on the TV-brainwashed majorities, minorities, undecideds and apathetics. (That goes for all of you... all sides, no mercy.)

It's probably got to do with this trend in the States that the News needs to entertain - and part of that has to do with telling people what they want to hear.
It's that marketing weasels have been given far far far too much importance in all aspects of our day-to-day lives, regardless of how that may lower the bar for all concerned. Jimmy doesn't like bad news about the war on Terror, and if Jimmy doesn't hear what he wants to hear, he might just change the channel before we get to throw a lot of adverts for Wheatie-Puffs or life insurance or boner medication at Jimmy. So tell Jimmy what he wants to hear, right? Makes sense to the marketing weasels - and ought never to be allowed near an actual team of journalists. The worst part, from my point of view, is that these pinheaded yes-men really think they're worth their salaries.