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How racist are you?

Khodros
13-11-2005, 05:19
I'm curious about just how many of us are racist, so please fill out this (anonymous) poll. I realize the charge of racism is thrown around a lot these days, and its meaning becomes somewhat muddled, so...




rac·ism (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism)
1 : a belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination


There's the definition. How well do you fit the bill?





Note: this only works if people are honest with themselves. If you think you're just quoting a PC mantra then take a moment to figure out where you really stand. Also don't get too pissed at people for voicing their opinions. People have a right to believe what they want and flaming/trolling is never all that persuasive.
Fass
13-11-2005, 05:21
My libido is racist.

That is all.
NERVUN
13-11-2005, 05:22
Um... not racist... I'm still trying to figure out what you're after here or how you plan to get what you want.
Colodia
13-11-2005, 05:22
I'm racist against non-humans. All non-humans are inferior to us and we are the supreme and dominant race.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-11-2005, 05:24
I'm not a racist, I'm a speciesist. I hate everything but Killer Whales. We should all die for our inferiority, but then what would the Killer Whales eat?
Such are the problems that my life confronts me with at 11:30 PM.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-11-2005, 05:25
I'm racist against non-humans. All non-humans are inferior to us and we are the supreme and dominant race.
Human-lover! Human-lover!
Colodia
13-11-2005, 05:26
Human-lover! Human-lover!
Whales should go back to where they came from and leave the land to its rightful owners...humans!

Human pride! Human pride!
Neu Leonstein
13-11-2005, 05:29
My libido is racist.
:D

I think all races and cultures have the right to coexist, and none is superior to another.
I don't think that different races are good at different things, but I'm not sure how well that belief stands up to things like Sports.

So do I think we should ignore race and treat everyone equally? Probably not, because if you don't address cultural differences, you get things like what happened in France recently.
Marrakech II
13-11-2005, 05:30
Out of curiosity does the "insert your nationality/race here" Pride bumper stickers and t-shirts piss anyone off? I know its completely un-pc to wear or have a bumper sticker that says "White" Pride. But I always shake my head when I see it for another race. Racist is racist isnt it? Where is the line drawn?
Aryan Einherjers
13-11-2005, 05:31
some races are better than others, because i'm a member of them... or one race is better cuz i'm...
Marrakech II
13-11-2005, 05:32
:D



So do I think we should ignore race and treat everyone equally? Probably not, because if you don't address cultural differences, you get things like what happened in France recently.


Cultural racism is very common in the world. Most every culture practices it in one form or another.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-11-2005, 05:35
Whales should go back to where they came from and leave the land to its rightful owners...humans!

Human pride! Human pride!
Not "Whales", Killer Whales. There is a fundamental difference. Killer Whales are the superior race, not humpbacks or fucking blue whales.
And the land should be returned to the sea from which it was stolen. The world must again be covered by water and returned to the control of the Killer Whales.
Colodia
13-11-2005, 05:36
Not "Whales", Killer Whales. There is a fundamental difference. Killer Whales are the superior race, not humpbacks or fucking blue whales.
And the land should be returned to the sea from which it was stolen. The world must again be covered by water and returned to the control of the Killer Whales.
The land shall rise above its inferior water counterparts and take back what has oppressed it for generations!
Bleuets
13-11-2005, 05:42
People are all equally stupid. The color of your skin, hair, or eyes means nothing.
Dostanuot Loj
13-11-2005, 05:43
My libido is racist.

That is all.


I'll have to second that.
"Race" has nothing to do with intelligence or personality or ability. But DAMN some of those ladies just look fine.
Nosas
13-11-2005, 05:44
I'm curious about just how many of us are racist, so please fill out this (anonymous) poll. I realize the charge of racism is thrown around a lot these days, and its meaning becomes somewhat muddled, so...




rac·ism (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism)
1 : a belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination


There's the definition. How well do you fit the bill?





Note: this only works if people are honest with themselves. If you think you're just quoting a PC mantra then take a moment to figure out where you really stand. Also don't get too pissed at people for voicing their opinions. People have a right to believe what they want and flaming/trolling is never all that persuasive.

Well, I might be yelled racist but I think races have differences.

Native american skin is harder against certain elements than Irish: I'm Native American and my dad is irish so I can tell. He burns easier in the sun.

Most these are adaptations or disadvantyages based on where your dna from bloodline grew up.

I fit 1/2 of that defination. I agree with, "a belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities ", but is diagree with , " and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

Just like men and women are different: doesn't make women or men superior.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-11-2005, 05:45
The land shall rise above its inferior water counterparts and take back what has oppressed it for generations!
Genesis Chapter 1 clearly states that the water was there first, and so it is the water which had dominance!
And in the Gospel of Thomas (which has long been oppressed, brothers, by the MAN!) Jesus says: "For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who shall stand at the beginning, and he shall know the end, and shall not taste death."
Clearly, Jesus is saying that only those of the water, who are at home in the seas, only they shall receive the Salvation! It is they who will be made immortal! It is they who will lord over the Earth at the end of times! Not any humans! Not any monkeys, or birds, or dogs!
Brothers, is it not clear!? Jesus was a Killer Whale!

(:p Can't touch this)
Eridanus
13-11-2005, 05:46
All too often I log into this website and see crap like this. Look, just because you happen to own a dictionary, and decided to look up a word in it doesn't mean anything. Racism, in the popular sense, means discrimination of other peoples based on race. But to answer your question, no, I'm not a racist in any sense of the word. And I'm sorry if I came off as harsh with the opening of my post.
Aryan Einherjers
13-11-2005, 05:51
Genesis Chapter 1 clearly states that the water was there first, and so it is the water which had dominance!
And in the Gospel of Thomas (which has long been oppressed, brothers, by the MAN!) Jesus says: "For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who shall stand at the beginning, and he shall know the end, and shall not taste death."
Clearly, Jesus is saying that only those of the water, who are at home in the seas, only they shall receive the Salvation! It is they who will be made immortal! It is they who will lord over the Earth at the end of times! Not any humans! Not any monkeys, or birds, or dogs!
Brothers, is it not clear!? Jesus was a Killer Whale!

(:p Can't touch this)

wait then are all jews either killer whales or some kind of cetacean, cuz as an antisemitic seal mammal fan i need to sort this out in my head.
Eichen
13-11-2005, 05:53
Short answer: I'm racist enough to refuse a bet on a white vs. black basketball game, but not racist enough to consider it in business.
Colodia
13-11-2005, 05:53
Genesis Chapter 1 clearly states that the water was there first, and so it is the water which had dominance!
And in the Gospel of Thomas (which has long been oppressed, brothers, by the MAN!) Jesus says: "For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who shall stand at the beginning, and he shall know the end, and shall not taste death."
Clearly, Jesus is saying that only those of the water, who are at home in the seas, only they shall receive the Salvation! It is they who will be made immortal! It is they who will lord over the Earth at the end of times! Not any humans! Not any monkeys, or birds, or dogs!
Brothers, is it not clear!? Jesus was a Killer Whale!

(:p Can't touch this)
Jesus was a human! Many a men of his generation and generations after have painted many a portraits of him! Therefore he MUST be human!


(Shit, how the hell am I supposed to top that!?)
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-11-2005, 05:56
wait then are all jews either killer whales or some kind of cetacean, cuz as an antisemitic seal mammal fan i need to sort this out in my head.
No, Jesus was a Killer Whale and any so called "facts" that may point out the fact that he was of Jewishc faith, had a Jewish mother, was raised in a Jewish house hold, and walked on land was merely propaganda perpetrated by the MAN.
Anyway, the Jews aren't really God's people, they are all either members of JESUSBOMB or followers of the Space Jew.
Grainne Ni Malley
13-11-2005, 05:58
I am NOT racist. I have black socks. I own color TVs. Joking aside, I think every race has screwed-up assholes.
Colodia
13-11-2005, 05:59
I am NOT racist. I have black socks. I own color TVs. Joking aside, I think every race has screwed-up assholes.
I'm not a man who segregated my socks.

Seriously, my socks are white with black stripes. Can't beat THAT!
Aryan Einherjers
13-11-2005, 05:59
No, Jesus was a Killer Whale and any so called "facts" that may point out the fact that he was of Jewishc faith, had a Jewish mother, was raised in a Jewish house hold, and walked on land was merely propaganda perpetrated by the MAN.
Anyway, the Jews aren't really God's people, they are all either members of JESUSBOMB or followers of the Space Jew.

did i do the who space jew conspiracy thing with this puppet... i love that shtick but i can remember if it was.... wait... stay in character... ahhhh nevermind.
Arizona Nova
13-11-2005, 06:01
Race is a mindset, and nothing more. Racism is an over-extension of the instinct that makes us fear the unknown. Neither of them is healthy.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-11-2005, 06:06
Jesus was a human! Many a men of his generation and generations after have painted many a portraits of him! Therefore he MUST be human!
Look at your own words for the answer. "Men", do you know what that is only one letter of from? Thats right, brothers, the MAN! A coincidence? I think not!
Don't let the MAN fool you with his propaganda! Open your eyes and read the Bible, and then close them again to take a nap, and then open the again and read some more. Remember to blink periodically to prevent drying out.
When Jesus feeds the masses, what does he feed them? FISH! The sustenance of Killer Whales, brothers! And when the Roman guard stabs Jesus, blood and water comes out of his side. Blood AND WATER, brothers.
Those other preachers, they tell you about the Human Jesus. They are lying. They want to lead you astray and put you in chains! They want you to worship the false Jesus!
I bring you the real Jesus, brothers. The Killer Whale Jesus!
(Shit, how the hell am I supposed to top that!?)
(You can't. Never debate religion with an ex-Protestant Agnostic, you will get burned)
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-11-2005, 06:08
Seriously, my socks are white with black stripes. Can't beat THAT!
Killer Whales have black and white skin! They have transcended the bounds of race, and have become the true Ubermenschen!
Colodia
13-11-2005, 06:11
Look at your own words for the answer. "Men", do you know what that is only one letter of from? Thats right, brothers, the MAN! A coincidence? I think not!
Don't let the MAN fool you with his propaganda! Open your eyes and read the Bible, and then close them again to take a nap, and then open the again and read some more. Remember to blink periodically to prevent drying out.
When Jesus feeds the masses, what does he feed them? FISH! The sustenance of Killer Whales, brothers! And when the Roman guard stabs Jesus, blood and water comes out of his side. Blood AND WATER, brothers.
Those other preachers, they tell you about the Human Jesus. They are lying. They want to lead you astray and put you in chains! They want you to worship the false Jesus!
I bring you the real Jesus, brothers. The Killer Whale Jesus!

(You can't. Never debate religion with an ex-Protestant Agnostic, you will get burned)*whips out the UN flag and assumes total control over the bashing over of thy head*

THE POWER OF MAN COMPELS YOU! THE POWER OF MAN COMPELS YOU!
Colodia
13-11-2005, 06:12
Killer Whales have black and white skin! They have transcended the bounds of race, and have become the true Ubermenschen!
Well....I suppose I could always leave my socks on for the rest of my life and let them fuse with my skin...
Marrakech II
13-11-2005, 06:14
Look at your own words for the answer. "Men", do you know what that is only one letter of from? Thats right, brothers, the MAN! A coincidence? I think not!
Don't let the MAN fool you with his propaganda! Open your eyes and read the Bible, and then close them again to take a nap, and then open the again and read some more. Remember to blink periodically to prevent drying out.
When Jesus feeds the masses, what does he feed them? FISH! The sustenance of Killer Whales, brothers! And when the Roman guard stabs Jesus, blood and water comes out of his side. Blood AND WATER, brothers.
Those other preachers, they tell you about the Human Jesus. They are lying. They want to lead you astray and put you in chains! They want you to worship the false Jesus!
I bring you the real Jesus, brothers. The Killer Whale Jesus!

(You can't. Never debate religion with an ex-Protestant Agnostic, you will get burned)

Jesus your crazy.....:p
Grainne Ni Malley
13-11-2005, 06:15
Well....I suppose I could always leave my socks on for the rest of my life and let them fuse with my skin...

Don't do it. Only bad things can come from fusing your socks to your skin... like toxic lint poisoning. (Not that I'm trying to perpetuate the hate or anything).
Amecian
13-11-2005, 06:17
Jesus your crazy.....:p
*chuckle *Amen
Eichen
13-11-2005, 06:18
Jesus your crazy.....:p
On some things, yes. On most things, HNF is a pretty good bullshit meter.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-11-2005, 06:19
*whips out the UN flag and assumes total control over the bashing over of thy head*
Come see the oppression inherent in the system, brothers! When the MAN is show that he is impure he reacts with violence! Truly these are not of the race of Killer Whale Jesus!
THE POWER OF MAN COMPELS YOU! THE POWER OF MAN COMPELS YOU!
Fuck Him, Colodia! Fuck Him!
*Spits peasoup in Colodia's eye*
Amecian
13-11-2005, 06:20
On some things, yes. On most things, HNF is a pretty good bullshit meter.

Yeah - Theres always about 4 people - HNF included - I can depend on to point out irony without me posting..
I like lurking much more..

*lurk *
Grainne Ni Malley
13-11-2005, 06:23
Fuck Him, Colodia! Fuck Him!
*Spits peasoup in Colodia's eye*

Call Father Penguin and excorcise this whale of a dem- ew... did I just get pea soup on my new dress? That's just wrong.
Colodia
13-11-2005, 06:23
Come see the oppression inherent in the system, brothers! When the MAN is show that he is impure he reacts with violence! Truly these are not of the race of Killer Whale Jesus!
Come and see me beat a man with the Canadian flag, everyone!


Fuck Him, Colodia! Fuck Him!
*Spits peasoup in Colodia's eye*
Sorry, unlike your Homoerotic fake-Jesus heretic, the true Jesus is hetero and would never do that.
Daistallia 2104
13-11-2005, 06:29
Race is simply an old worn out social convention with zero biological legitimacy. It continues to have currancy because of the scientific ignorance of the general populace. In every thread on the topic I've seen, those who believe that biologically distinct races exists, have failed miserably to present any scientifically valid evidence for their position.

Anyone who belives in the existance of distinct human races, in any manner, is a racist in my book. As far as I understand the science, they are either clinging to an idea that is as dead as Ptolemy's Earth-centred cosmology, are confusing the biological idea of race with the anthropological idea of ethnicity, or both.
Serapindal
13-11-2005, 06:33
There are only two races.

Serapindal, and everyone else.

The Former is superior.

Other then that, race does not exist, and everyone is equal.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-11-2005, 07:12
Come and see me beat a man with the Canadian flag, everyone!
*Pulls out shotgun (C'mon, all street preachers carry shotguns, that's why they have the big crazy robes to hide them) and blasts flag*
Come and see me and the Killer Whale Jesus triumph over Canada, brothers, May it's land soon fall back to the dominance of the Killer Whales!
Sorry, unlike your Homoerotic fake-Jesus heretic, the true Jesus is hetero and would never do that.
Killer Whale Jesus transcends race and sexuality! Especially in regards to something as insignifigant as Human heretics!
God flooded the earth once to destroy the sins of the lesser land bound races, and he shall do so again! AMEN! HALLELUJAH!!
Der Drache
13-11-2005, 08:03
In general I thinik there is a fair spread of abilities in every race. But if you average the members of every race together you might find that some are better on average then another race at certain things. But I'm not sure if these differences are significant enough to really say that one race is superior in any one area. You could probably say that on average Africans are much suppierior at surving malarial infections. Race does exist in the sense that we have had geological issolation that has caused drift in the genetic makeup causing certain groups of people to have a tendency towards certain traits, both in outward appearance, but also at the cellular level (which causes some races to be more succeptible to certain disorders). Now with racial mixing there is a bluring of racial distinctions.
Letila
13-11-2005, 08:10
Race is a mindset, and nothing more. Racism is an over-extension of the instinct that makes us fear the unknown. Neither of them is healthy.

Indeed. Many people are too attached to race or other social constructs and seem treat them as more real than the people that make them up.
Eichen
13-11-2005, 08:16
Indeed. Many people are too attached to race or other social constructs and seem treat them as more real than the people that make them up.
On the other hand, much of liberal humanity seems to be satisfied with completely ignoring any of our differences.

We shouldn't deny cultural or genetic talents because we want to push our own brand of nonculturism... i.e.; shades of gray.
Harlesburg
13-11-2005, 09:00
Why must people hide behind the anominous poll?
The Cat-Tribe
13-11-2005, 09:58
Unfortunately, the issue of racism cannot be so easily dissected.

For example, biologically and genetically there are no, or virtually no, racial groups. (And the groups that can be made do not align with common phenotypes for current "races.")

On the other hand, race very clearly exists as a socio-political phenomenon.

Human beings have a certain natural tendency to create divisions and phenotypes have served as a means of doing so. So we have thousands of years of racist practices on top of certain natural tendencies.

I know I am racist. I strive everyday to be less racist. But I live in a racist country and a racist culture. Everyday I am bombarded by mixed signals about race, culture, ethicity, etc.

Strive for equality. Celebrate differences in culture and ethnicity. Seek to end racism where you find it - including in your own heart.
The Cat-Tribe
13-11-2005, 10:03
Short answer: I'm racist enough to refuse a bet on a white vs. black basketball game, but not racist enough to consider it in business.

40-50 years ago it was Jews that dominated basketball. It was considered a Jewish game. Commentators would focus on the craftiness of the play, the trickery, ect.

Jewish Basketball Giants (http://www.aish.com/societyWork/arts/Jewish_Basketball_Giants.asp)
http://www.jewishmag.com/45mag/basketball/basketball.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1508588/posts
Zagat
14-11-2005, 05:42
Re Harlesburg anomity point...actually I didnt realise the poll was anomonous. Seeing as how you've pointed it out, I'll put my post where my vote (on the poll) is.

I do not believe in 'race' in the sense of human beings being split into biological groups. I recognise the existence of the social construction, but dont believe this construction is the result of 'pre-social' biology.
Preebs
14-11-2005, 07:26
The human genome proved that races don't exist but..
Damn, Cat-Empire beat me to it. :D
Rotovia-
14-11-2005, 07:37
All black, jewish, catholics, who's name start with "R", ends in "a", with "otovi" in the middle are clearly superior...
Lovely Boys
14-11-2005, 08:02
:D

I think all races and cultures have the right to coexist, and none is superior to another.
I don't think that different races are good at different things, but I'm not sure how well that belief stands up to things like Sports.

So do I think we should ignore race and treat everyone equally? Probably not, because if you don't address cultural differences, you get things like what happened in France recently.

The problem with France is the idea that a country should have 'little China' and 'little Algeria' and 'little Japan' - that isn't integration, thats separatism, and no wonder from that there spawns inequality and intolerance.

If I go to a country, I immerse myself in their culture whilst also holding onto my own; if I went to France, I'd try to learn French language, customs and live with other French people, just as I would do the same if I were to move to Australia or Germany.
Harlesburg
14-11-2005, 08:35
The human genome proved that races don't exist but..
Damn, Cat-Empire beat me to it. :D
Trust an Aryan to say that.
Preebs
14-11-2005, 08:43
Trust an Aryan to say that.
>.< Shh, we don't want it getting out.
Harlesburg
14-11-2005, 08:46
>.< Shh, we don't want it getting out.
;)
Baran-Duine
14-11-2005, 10:39
My libido is racist.

That is all.
I think the world is about to end, I agree with Fass ;)
Baran-Duine
14-11-2005, 10:54
The problem with France is the idea that a country should have 'little China' and 'little Algeria' and 'little Japan' - that isn't integration, thats separatism, and no wonder from that there spawns inequality and intolerance.

If I go to a country, I immerse myself in their culture whilst also holding onto my own; if I went to France, I'd try to learn French language, customs and live with other French people, just as I would do the same if I were to move to Australia or Germany.
:confused: :confused: So if you moved to Australia or Germany you'd try to learn French language, customs and try to live with other french people? :confused: :confused:
:p :rolleyes:
Lovely Boys
14-11-2005, 11:13
:confused: :confused: So if you moved to Australia or Germany you'd try to learn French language, customs and try to live with other french people? :confused: :confused:
:p :rolleyes:

lol :P
Mandelaland
14-11-2005, 11:26
Good point about cultures. There is one Human race, but most people have a natural preference for their own cultural grouping. Where this preferences moves into prejudice (prejudging others as inferior) and marginalisation (like whats happening in Europe with the French-born Arabs and Africans - thats the problem.

Not that I can talk! But its just simple manners to be open to learning about other cultures in your country - but sometimes can be hard.

In South Africa, for eg, there are 11 official languages! - Fortunately these are region based, so I have to only use 1 of 3 to communicate to just about everyone in the Western Cape. There is such a variety of music, food, art, etc that it makes life much richer. :fluffle:
Latoo
14-11-2005, 11:47
People are all equally stupid. The color of your skin, hair, or eyes means nothing.

Agreed