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I have been thinking about this for a while, but never really was sure if I was going to do it.

Then I saw more french-bashing, in the fucking two cow thread. That was the most colossal disappointment in mankind I have had in the longest time. So I've had it. I don't want to deal with such idiocy anymore. I may pop up in some random thread in the future, but for all intents and purposes, I'm done.

You shouldn't let such idiots as France-bashers get to you, but I understand your decision.

Lev väl! (Live well) :)

I have been thinking about this for a while, but never really was sure if I was going to do it.

Then I saw more french-bashing, in the fucking two cow thread. That was the most colossal disappointment in mankind I have had in the longest time. So I've had it. I don't want to deal with such idiocy anymore. I may pop up in some random thread in the future, but for all intents and purposes, I'm done.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out, brother. Wish ya the best.

I'd like to add that if every time I allowed some asshole to offend me for every little comment about my country or little party, I woud've dived a long time ago.
Perhaps a thicker skin would help when discussing politics internationally on the web.

...Well...damn.

Typical french. Running away. :rolleyes:

I believe you were the first guy that RPed with me. You invaded the crap out of me...good times...

I have been thinking about this for a while, but never really was sure if I was going to do it.

Then I saw more french-bashing, in the fucking two cow thread. That was the most colossal disappointment in mankind I have had in the longest time. So I've had it. I don't want to deal with such idiocy anymore. I may pop up in some random thread in the future, but for all intents and purposes, I'm done.

Take Care Chellis.

You'll be missed.

Typical french. Running away. :rolleyes:
That was trollish, and you won't hear me saying that unless it's really fucking trollish.

That was trollish, and you won't hear me saying that unless it's really fucking trollish.

Perhaps he was joking?

Perhaps he was joking?
Assume, perhaps, that some jokes are made in such bad taste that even we internet users call them trollish.

That was trollish, and you won't hear me saying that unless it's really fucking trollish.
The eternal optimist within me is going to say it was sarcasm. The cynic is going to say that the OP should grow some thick skin and quit whining so much. The Russian is going to say something, but no one will understand it because the rest of my personalities don't speak Russian.

The eternal optimist within me is going to say it is irony. The cynic is going to say that the OP should grow some thick skin and quit whining so much. The Russian is going to say something, but no one will understand it because the rest of my personalities don't speak Russian.

Damn, I know what that's like...except the Russian speaks Portugeuse and everyone's like "WTF?"

The eternal optimist within me is going to say it is irony.
If that was irony, then he owes Alanis Morissette a small royalty compensation.

If that was irony, then he owes Alanis Morissette a small royalty compensation.

But it was rain on her wedding-day! A free ride when she'd already paid!!!

But it was rain on her wedding-day! A free ride when she'd already paid!!!
Naw, it's only when there's 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.

If that was irony, then he owes Alanis Morissette a small royalty compensation.
I meant to say sarcasm, but the pedant in me was sleeping on the job.

Naw, it's only when there's 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.

That better be a butter-knife.

The only reason French bashing is so prevalent is because the Bush butt-kissing, science ignorant, wanking to Limbaugh, poorly-travelled, quasi-illiterate, bible thumping, overly vocal extreme minority is feeling nervous.

That, and the riots.

Well, you're making my sig anyway...
Later Chellis.
Canadianism: You have two cows. Vous avez deux vaches

Chellis grow some thick skin. I see constant US bashing, Europe bashing, Chinese bashing and on and on and on. Just part of life. If you cant deal with this on the internet I really wonder about you. So suck it up, and deal out some punishment of your own.

Chellis grow some thick skin. I see constant US bashing, Europe bashing, Chinese bashing and on and on and on. Just part of life. If you cant deal with this on the internet I really wonder about you. So suck it up, and deal out some punishment of your own.
We've even had a few threads on basher-bashing, and I'm surprised that there has never been a thread for basher-basher-bashing.

Chellis grow some thick skin. I see constant US bashing, Europe bashing, Chinese bashing and on and on and on. Just part of life. If you cant deal with this on the internet I really wonder about you. So suck it up, and deal out some punishment of your own.He's been here since 02. I'm sure he has as much tolerance for idiocy as the next person, but sometimes, one just gets weary.

Anyway, he'll be back. Everyone comes back eventually :)

I meant to say sarcasm, but the pedant in me was sleeping on the job.

That's the correct noun-form.


Much better example of irony.

I have been thinking about this for a while, but never really was sure if I was going to do it.

Then I saw more french-bashing, in the fucking two cow thread. That was the most colossal disappointment in mankind I have had in the longest time. So I've had it. I don't want to deal with such idiocy anymore. I may pop up in some random thread in the future, but for all intents and purposes, I'm done.


It was nice having you.



Speaking of France, they've just moved up to third in the world rugby rankings

That's the correct noun-form.
Look, that bastard, whatshisname, goes to bed early on Saturday nights, so fuck off!
Much better example of irony.
Not really. I admitted that the words guy was sleeping, so any improper words are only to be expected.

Chellis grow some thick skin. I see constant US bashing, Europe bashing, Chinese bashing and on and on and on. Just part of life. If you cant deal with this on the internet I really wonder about you. So suck it up, and deal out some punishment of your own.

My point exactly.

And my "trollish" post was a bitter commentary on NSforumdom. I was attempting to use humor to convey my inner troubled soul to the OP, letting him know that I abhore the animal for which I have become having been in this urban jungle of black Arial font too long; and that I wish I could change, but a degree of institutionalism has set in, and yadda yadda yadda...

Of course, you could have just looked at the sarcatic emoticon and figured I was sarcastically picking on the OP in the manner in which he claimed was bothering him enough to leave the forum. Because he was acting in accordance with the stereotype was just a bonus.

Hmm Folks bash MY country here on a dayly basis and I'm still around....

Look, that bastard, whatshisname, goes to bed early on Saturday nights, so fuck off!

Not really. I admitted that the words guy was sleeping, so any improper words are only to be expected.

Ah, but correcting the corrector is always a little ironic, no matter the current state of the aforementioned corrector.

If I went around dismissing irony from all things that had an excuse of some sort, what would happen to my precious joy in other people's discomfort?

It would be positively unAmerican, I tell you.

If I had dropped off the NS General radar when I first read a diatribe about the US, I would have had maybe one post... total!

black Arial font
It's Verdana.

Ah, but correcting the corrector is always a little ironic, no matter the current state of the aforementioned corrector.
Er . . . Wha?
If I went around dismissing irony from all things that had an excuse of some sort, what would happen to my precious joy in other people's discomfort?
Geshwa? . . . Eh?
It would be positively unAmerican, I tell you.
Whyhowwhowhatwhenwhere?

We're sorry, the brain you are attempting to contact has just been temporarily broken. Please hang-up, and try your call again.

Of course, you could have just looked at the sarcatic emoticon and figured I was sarcastically picking on the OP in the manner in which he claimed was bothering him enough to leave the forum. Because he was acting in accordance with the stereotype was just a bonus.
Here's where you went wrong: :rolleyes: .
This is one of the most "dick" emoticons you can offer a poster.
It's synonymous with "fuck you". You were going for this: :p .
That's a "razz".

I understand we're on the same team, right? That's why I'm fillin' ya in. NP.

Look, that bastard, whatshisname, goes to bed early on Saturday nights, so fuck off!
I'm not really sure what the content is about anymore, but I can't agree more with this statement.
Obviously an asshole.

Here's where you went wrong: :rolleyes: .
This is one of the most "dick" emoticons you can offer a poster.
It's synonymous with "fuck you". You were going for this: :p .
That's a "razz".

I understand we're on the same team, right? That's why I'm fillin' ya in. NP.

I disagree. When I use the :rolleyes: smiley, it means one of three things.

I'm being sarcastic.

or,

I've just pointed out a load of hypocrisy or an embarrassing logical error so evident it would easily be detected by an orbiting gaffe-o-meter (an invention of mine that's proven especially useful in observing the Bush Whitehouse.)

or finally,

The thing I'm commenting on calls for no real response.

~snip~

Hmmm....well I use :rolleyes: constantly, because I am what it says, sarcastic.

:rolleyes: = sarcastic
:upyours: = fuck you

But then again, that just makes sense, so it's probably not right. Either way, I was being sarcastic. Besides, it was funny to me. And you can't legislate taste. (at least in the U.S.) Even if mine is poor. The supreme court says so. Haven't you seen The People Vs. Larry Flint?

I've just pointed out a load of hypocrisy or an embarrassing logical error so evident it would easily be detected by an orbiting gaffe-o-meter (an invention of mine that's proven especially useful in observing the Bush Whitehouse.)
Just to let you know, for me, rolling of the eyes always indicates the gyst of the above statement. :D

I have been thinking about this for a while, but never really was sure if I was going to do it.

Then I saw more french-bashing, in the fucking two cow thread. That was the most colossal disappointment in mankind I have had in the longest time. So I've had it. I don't want to deal with such idiocy anymore. I may pop up in some random thread in the future, but for all intents and purposes, I'm done.

See you later,Pip.

(Does anybody remember Pip? The little English kid on South Park that everybody kept calling Frenchy.)

See you later,Pip.

(Does anybody remember Pip? The little English kid on South Park that everybody kept calling Frenchy.)

Of course. That kid was murder with a dodgeball.

Yes because Cows,French and politics go together like chalk and cheese.
dont go.

I just want to say (as I always enjoy mentioning things that happened previously in the conversation after everyone has moved on) that the only reason Alanis Morisette's song Ironic is ironic is because none of the things she says in the song are ironic -- just unfortunate.

Some might call it awesome (as I would), some might call it sad, but we studied the song in a literature class I took where we spent half a year on satire and irony.

Now, proceed where you left off.

I just want to say (as I always enjoy mentioning things that happened previously in the conversation after everyone has moved on) that the only reason Alanis Morisette's song Ironic is ironic is because none of the things she says in the song are ironic -- just unfortunate.

Some might call it awesome (as I would), some might call it sad, but we studied the song in a literature class I took where we spent half a year on satire and irony.

Now, proceed where you left off.

That makes a lot of sense, actually. Thank you for the new perspective.

Perhaps a thicker skin would help when discussing politics internationally on the web.

I've never understood why a thick skin is necessary when discussing politics. Why do you all insist on insulting each other when discussing what's best for the human race? Just because politicians are uncivilised, doesn't mean everyone else has to be.

Naw, it's only when there's 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.
Ah but the truth is, There is no spoon.

Sorry those French Bashers got you down.

Just because politicians are uncivilised, doesn't mean everyone else has to be.
But it’s so fucking fun.

I've never understood why a thick skin is necessary when discussing politics. Why do you all insist on insulting each other when discussing what's best for the human race?

:upyours:

Not really. I admitted that the words guy was sleeping, so any improper words are only to be expected.
so that's what pedant means.... so what's the word for guys who like young boys?

If I had dropped off the NS General radar when I first read a diatribe about the US, I would have had maybe one post... total!

Maybe you forgot Eut, I'm an american too. I volunteered for the army. I get plenty of shit on it, both online and offline. And the times I go against the democratic party line, I get shit from certain people here in california. I get shit from my parents(mostly my mother) because I'm an atheist. She would rather me be a mormon, jew, or muslim than an atheist, god knows why. Most of this, I can't avoid in real life.

I've been here for the better part of three years. Two or so years in the RP forums, but I've served my time in general. I've been able to take more types of ad-hominems and flames than I thought were possible. This isn't a case of being so offended I want to leave.

I come here as a break from my real life, not as a fucking substitute. If I want people to talk about my choices, my beliefs, my nationality, or my heritage, I'll talk to my friends and family. If I want them insulted, I'll talk to people at my school, or my family. I've heard all the fucking jokes about my blood, a good number online, and many off.

I don't want to come here, just to hear more shit. I lasted through it before, because I was an incredibly unhappy person. Only lately have things started to pick up in my life. And I've realized that NS is such a blatant and huge waste of my time. I have sucked up pretty much all intellectual ability that I can from the forums. All thats left for me is flames and idiotic "jokes" that are so prevalent that most people believe them.

Goodbye. Sad to see another old player go.

Au revoir

Au revoir

Il ne sera pas un "au revoir", parce que je ne rentrais jamais.

il ne fait pas "au revoir" moins poignant ni moins beau.

so that's what pedant means.... so what's the word for guys who like young boys?
Either Pedophile or Paedophile, depending on the phase of the moon or something. I really have no idea what difference that "a" makes (Someone else will probably point out that the "a" is right, and that the USian spelling is worng), so I generally only use it when abusing "Paedo-" as a prefix. For instance "PaedoMan" really means "child-human" as opposed to "child molestation man", but what the Hell did the Ancient greeks know about their own language anyway?

[end hijack]

il ne fait pas "au revoir" moins poignant ni moins beau.

Mais oui, vraiment.

And I've realized that NS is such a blatant and huge waste of my time. I have sucked up pretty much all intellectual ability that I can from the forums. All thats left for me is flames and idiotic "jokes" that are so prevalent that most people believe them.
Well, at some point I guess you've heard everything, and then it's bound to become boring.
Hope you have fun at whatever it is you do now...and if you do feel like a bit of a discussion about things that no one in your life really cares about - NS always cares...:D

Auf Wiedersehen

Au revoir

Beat me to it. Je ne fais pas les plaisanteres de Francais...souvent*.
Bon nuit, mon ami(e?). Maintenent, je vais etudier les livres de francaise, parce que mon accent, ma structure, et mon orthograhpie sont terrible!

*Does that joke work in French?

Seeya Chellis. Or won't, as the case may be.

I have been thinking about this for a while, but never really was sure if I was going to do it.

Then I saw more french-bashing, in the fucking two cow thread. That was the most colossal disappointment in mankind I have had in the longest time. So I've had it. I don't want to deal with such idiocy anymore. I may pop up in some random thread in the future, but for all intents and purposes, I'm done.

Yeah, I'm not on here very much anymore cause I got sick of all the pointless debates but meh, I just avoid them now... (well mainly:D )

Goodbye:fluffle:

I have been thinking about this for a while, but never really was sure if I was going to do it.

Then I saw more french-bashing, in the fucking two cow thread. That was the most colossal disappointment in mankind I have had in the longest time. So I've had it. I don't want to deal with such idiocy anymore. I may pop up in some random thread in the future, but for all intents and purposes, I'm done.

There has been a lot of French bashing lately in response to a riot that has been allowed to expand and run out of control. Just like there is nation-bashing whenever any noteworthy news story appears about any nation...or anytime a US citizen farts or hiccups. The 2-cow thread takes swipes at dozens of nations and ideologies. Actually, the French ones were pretty mild compared to the majority. Do you really think that France and your views are so perfect and above reproach that they don't warrant a little good natured teasing? Lighten up and don't take everything so personally. And for God's sake don't develop as thin a skin concerning the US or your only logical response would be to become a hermit.

AFAIK he's an American, and a veteran.

I realize that. But, for some reason, he has taken offence to a few days of NS focus on France, but not a non-stop critique of the US. Doesn't it make you ask yourself why France should be exempt from criticism in his view?

EDIT: I've edited my original post to more accurately make my point.

I have been thinking about this for a while, but never really was sure if I was going to do it.

Then I saw more french-bashing, in the fucking two cow thread. That was the most colossal disappointment in mankind I have had in the longest time. So I've had it. I don't want to deal with such idiocy anymore. I may pop up in some random thread in the future, but for all intents and purposes, I'm done.
bye bye :)

But, for some reason, he has taken offence to a few days of NS focus on France, but not a non-stop critique of the US.
Maybe it's the way it is argued. There are a lot of threads that you could call Anti-US, but most of it is as you said "critique". Critique is okay, and if it is well-reasoned, it should be encouraged.
I don't think he ever responded negatively to posts questioning how France handled the riots.
"Surrender is always an option" is however not well-argued, it is not even a critique.
It's mindless France-Bashing, and you'll find a lot more of that on these forums than mindless US-Bashing.

Maybe it's the way it is argued. There are a lot of threads that you could call Anti-US, but most of it is as you said "critique". Critique is okay, and if it is well-reasoned, it should be encouraged.
I don't think he ever responded negatively to posts questioning how France handled the riots.
"Surrender is always an option" is however not well-argued, it is not even a critique.
It's mindless France-Bashing, and you'll find a lot more of that on these forums than mindless US-Bashing.

Oh, come on. Intelligent US critiques like pictures of Bush and Rice compared to animals, the portrayal of the majority of its citizens as mindless, ignorant, superstisious, radicals without enough intelligence to properly elect their own officials...even our bathing habits have been made fun of as obsessive.

Oh, come on. Intelligent US critiques like pictures of Bush and Rice compared to animals...
Is that what qualifies as devious criticism of the US these days? If you want, I'm sure we could find plenty of comparisons of politicians from all over the world with animals. I don't think that would offend anyone.

...the portrayal of the majority of its citizens as mindless, ignorant, superstisious, radicals without enough intelligence to properly elect their own officials...
To be fair, the majority of those ideas came from Americans themselves. Most European posters just can't understand how someone with the past, the record and the apparent difficulties in keeping one single speech together, combined with a group of radicals and business officials as his staff could ever be elected for office. None of these things are false, or even blown out of proportion - it is probably simply differences in perspective.
And besides, I believe I remember a certain election in 2000 in which things didn't go as you would expect them in an advanced democracy.

...even our bathing habits have been criticized as obsessive.
If you're referring to the "Is America Prude?" thread, then that is a reasonable call, relative to Europe, and even Australia, the only places I can judge. And I merely asked, I made no assertions.
Again, I'd rather be exposed to that kind of honest critique than be called a coward.

Maybe you forgot Eut, I'm an american too. I volunteered for the army.

Speaking of which, just in case you really are leaving. I have to take this final oppourtunity to tell you that you are probably making a huge mistake. It's nothing personal man, but those dudes are going to eat you alive. Once they pick up on your sensitivity and overall view of the world according to Chellis, you are going to become their favorite target. I have been exactly where you will be doing your BASIC and AIT and quite frankly those that are No Goes and Reserve are thrown in with large numbers of guys going Ranger/Airborne, and you will become fodder for them. It is not pretty and thinking back I feel very badly for a few of those guys. Your DI's will all be Rangers and they will have no sympathy for what you are going through, so if you think the garbage you are getting at home in California is tough, you have no clue what tough is...yet. Do yourself a favor and choose another MOS if you can. If you can't change your mind and are stuck with what you have chosen, for god sake man keep your opinions to yourself. The last thing you want is to be the guest of honor at a blanket party.

I have been thinking about this for a while, but never really was sure if I was going to do it.

Then I saw more french-bashing, in the fucking two cow thread. That was the most colossal disappointment in mankind I have had in the longest time. So I've had it. I don't want to deal with such idiocy anymore. I may pop up in some random thread in the future, but for all intents and purposes, I'm done.
Ya know what I hate? People making dramatic threads to announce that they are leaving. Why not just stop posting here? In addition, almost all of these people come back.

Ya know what I hate? People making dramatic threads to announce that they are leaving. Why not just stop posting here? In addition, almost all of these people come back.
Have we ever seen a poster who announces his inevitable departure really fucking leave? I don't think so, either.

Have we ever seen a poster who announces his inevitable departure really fucking leave? I don't think so, either.

Umm, Stephistan's husband, what's his name.

Maybe you forgot Eut, I'm an american too. I volunteered for the army. I get plenty of shit on it, both online and offline. And the times I go against the democratic party line, I get shit from certain people here in california. I get shit from my parents(mostly my mother) because I'm an atheist. She would rather me be a mormon, jew, or muslim than an atheist, god knows why. Most of this, I can't avoid in real life.

<snippage>

I don't want to come here, just to hear more shit. I lasted through it before, because I was an incredibly unhappy person. Only lately have things started to pick up in my life. And I've realized that NS is such a blatant and huge waste of my time. I have sucked up pretty much all intellectual ability that I can from the forums. All thats left for me is flames and idiotic "jokes" that are so prevalent that most people believe them.
I'm sorry. I for one, will miss you. :(

I suppose I just love a good free-for-all too much. Heh! :D

Have we ever seen a poster who announces his inevitable departure really fucking leave? I don't think so, either.

Sure we have! Remember....never mind. He was really a she and just came back with a female name. Yer right, they all come back.

Umm, Stephistan's husband, what's his name.

Zeppistan

Zeppistan
[ Muttering under breath ] ""Frakkin' uber-leftist Canucks!"" :D

Have we ever seen a poster who announces his inevitable departure really fucking leave? I don't think so, either.
Out of the many, I can think of only one. Only Roach-Busters announced his departure and thena ctually left for good. (Though I long suspected the El Caudillo was him.)

Chellis, you've offended more people on this forum than could ever possibly offend you. And to base your decision on the verbal harassment of the French?!? Well, there's no accounting for courage or spine, but hey, if you really feel you've experiences the proverbial last straw, then you should go. I'd rather it be for a legitimate reason, but there it is. The US basing in here has never gotten under my skin -- I agree when it's warranted and fight back when it's possible.

Ave atque vale, Chellis.

Out of the many, I can think of only one. Only Roach-Busters announced his departure and thena ctually left for good. (Though I long suspected the El Caudillo was him.)

Roach-Busters tried suicide-by-mod and his password was scrambled so that he could but watch his nation's slow demise. He tried to come back. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=436367&highlight=roach-busters)

I just want to say (as I always enjoy mentioning things that happened previously in the conversation after everyone has moved on) that the only reason Alanis Morisette's song Ironic is ironic is because none of the things she says in the song are ironic -- just unfortunate.

Some might call it awesome (as I would), some might call it sad, but we studied the song in a literature class I took where we spent half a year on satire and irony.

Now, proceed where you left off.

Is it ironic that a song called "Ironic" has no irony in it, or is it merely sophomoric, obvious and stupid?

Roach-Busters tried suicide-by-mod and his password was scrambled so that he could but watch his nation's slow demise. He tried to come back. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=436367&highlight=roach-busters)
Heh! "Suicde by Mod" sounds so ... gouche! LOL!

No one ever leaves.

Umm, Stephistan's husband, what's his name.

Zeppistan. Actually, he did come back. At first he came back with one of us puppets as a foul mouthed "shock jock" personality. When he got in dutch with the mods over his language, Steph and he revealed themselves and claimed that the mods were picking on him specifically because they knew his true identity. After much swiping back and forth he disappeared again...or did he?

Heh! "Suicde by Mod" sounds so ... gouche! LOL!

I think you mean "gauche."

I've never understood why a thick skin is necessary when discussing politics. Why do you all insist on insulting each other when discussing what's best for the human race? Just because politicians are uncivilised, doesn't mean everyone else has to be.

A very good question. The Greeks had/have the answer, which is this: it is a very poor user of rhetoric who attacks the potter (or poster, in this case) and not his vessel (a poster's argument). If the vessel will not hold water, it's up to those who would oppose the potter to highlight the cracks in the vessel and point out the leaks as the potter's logic drains away. To attack the maker of the idea and not the idea itself is gratuitously rude and vicious.

That said, defending oneself against an unprovoked attack is an entirely different matter. At least, that's how I learned it in PHIL420 back in grad school.

I think you mean "gauche."

You forget...he speaks and spells "southern"

Zeppistan. Actually, he did come back. At first he came back with one of us puppets as a foul mouthed "shock jock" personality. When he got in dutch with the mods over his language, Steph and he revealed themselves and claimed that the mods were picking on him specifically because they knew his true identity. After much swiping back and forth he disappeared again...or did he?
Mwahahaha! Ya don' KNO, do ya! :D

'Mawnin', Zooke! :fluffle:

I think you mean "gauche."
Yeah. That too. :D

Mwahahaha! Ya don' KNO, do ya! :D

'Mawnin', Zooke! :fluffle:

Mornin. Trying to post in between thunderstorms.

To attack the maker of the idea and not the idea itself is gratuitously rude and vicious.
But ... but ... but it's so much PHUN! :D

Mornin. Trying to post in between thunderstorms.
Scared yer 'puter iz gonna bite ya, eh? Tsk! :D

There has been a lot of French bashing lately in response to a riot that has been allowed to expand and run out of control. Just like there is nation-bashing whenever any noteworthy news story appears about any nation...or anytime a US citizen farts or hiccups. The 2-cow thread takes swipes at dozens of nations and ideologies. Actually, the French ones were pretty mild compared to the majority. Do you really think that France and your views are so perfect and above reproach that they don't warrant a little good natured teasing? Lighten up and don't take everything so personally. And for God's sake don't develop as thin a skin concerning the US or your only logical response would be to become a hermit.

Bingo.
Bingosky.
Bingoskaroo.
Bingoskaroodovich.
Uh, right. Right on. Yes.

But ... but ... but it's so much PHUN! :D

Oh, I know it is, trust me. :D

Scared yer 'puter iz gonna bite ya, eh? Tsk! :D

No, power keeps going off and on. This puter doesn't work worth a flip without electricity.

Mornin. Trying to post in between thunderstorms.

That's tough to do. I know. I've done it myself in the past :D

Anyway, good morning to you too Zooke :)

No, power keeps going off and on. This puter doesn't work worth a flip without electricity.
Well, day-um! You need to get one like mine. It's powered by a herd of gerbils who've been trained to run like hell on those metal exercise wheels with a reward of gerbil-sex and food. :D

Oh, I know it is, trust me. :D
Ut oh! Heh! :fluffle:

~snip~

To be fair, the majority of those ideas came from Americans themselves. Most European posters just can't understand how someone with the past, the record and the apparent difficulties in keeping one single speech together, combined with a group of radicals and business officials as his staff could ever be elected for office. None of these things are false, or even blown out of proportion - it is probably simply differences in perspective.
And besides, I believe I remember a certain election in 2000 in which things didn't go as you would expect them in an advanced democracy.

So, by your definition, it is acceptable to make fun of the citizenry who voted for Bush because you don't agree with them, but it is not OK to make fun of France, because you do agree with its policies? I know most European posters don't understand...because they can't seem to understand the American culture and election process in general. The validity of the SC decision on the 2000 election is good for debate, but not in this thread.

If you're referring to the "Is America Prude?" thread, then that is a reasonable call, relative to Europe, and even Australia, the only places I can judge. And I merely asked, I made no assertions.
Again, I'd rather be exposed to that kind of honest critique than be called a coward.

Haven't read any of the "Is America Prude" thread. I was referring to the occasional jibes that pop up concerned with the American standards for cleanliness.

EDIT: The American posters on here are by majority liberal. The atmosphere of NS is decidedly liberal and supportive of their political and ideological views. This makes NS much less hospitable and appealing to moderate and conservative Americans. This gives an inaccurate view of the majority American opinions.

Morning Cornie...morning everyone. Where were you all at 4 CST this morning when I was awake listening to a bowling alley in the sky?

Morning Cornie...morning everyone. Where were you all at 4 CST this morning when I was awake listening to a bowling alley in the sky?

It was 5 EST and I was zonked out in my nice little dorm bed all snug as a bug in a rug. :D

Morning Cornie...morning everyone. Where were you all at 4 CST this morning when I was awake listening to a bowling alley in the sky?
LOL! Why would that awaken you? Scared?

BOO! :D

LOL! Why would that awaken you? Scared?

BOO! :D

Considering I live under some huge oak trees throwing limbs and acorns everywhere, yup, little worried.

Considering I live under some huge oak trees throwing limbs and acorns everywhere, yup, little worried.
Oh. Concerned about the outdoors coming in-doors uninvited, are ya? Heh!

Thar she blows, again. CU later.

Have we ever seen a poster who announces his inevitable departure really fucking leave? I don't think so, either.

Not nearly as often as I would prefer.

Okay, I've just read the "Two Cows" thread, and the amount of French-bashing in there was MINISCULE! Either it's been edited or Chellis is too sensitive to exist in a world like this.

Okay, I've just read the "Two Cows" thread, and the amount of French-bashing in there was MINISCULE! Either it's been edited or Chellis is too sensitive to exist in a world like this.

So, I take it you don't like Chellis.

Okay, I've just read the "Two Cows" thread, and the amount of French-bashing in there was MINISCULE! Either it's been edited or Chellis is too sensitive to exist in a world like this.

Said the Apr 2005 nation to the Dec 2002 nation. :rolleyes:

You forget...he speaks and spells "southern"

I am going to let the irony gleam in its present glory.

There has been a lot of French bashing lately in response to a riot that has been allowed to expand and run out of control. Just like there is nation-bashing whenever any noteworthy news story appears about any nation...or anytime a US citizen farts or hiccups. The 2-cow thread takes swipes at dozens of nations and ideologies. Actually, the French ones were pretty mild compared to the majority. Do you really think that France and your views are so perfect and above reproach that they don't warrant a little good natured teasing? Lighten up and don't take everything so personally. And for God's sake don't develop as thin a skin concerning the US or your only logical response would be to become a hermit.

I wasn't talking about cow jokes, I found those funny, even the french ones. I'm talking about a side discussion about the french that popped up.

Good natured? I can't hear the word french without someone mentioning the word surrendur. Its annoying as all fuck.

Good natured? I can't hear the word french without someone mentioning the word surrendur. Its annoying as all fuck.

The french surrendering again? :D

Sorry I couldn't help it.

*Note* this post is in no way ment to be taken seriously.

*Note* this post is in no way ment to be taken seriously.
Not to worry. No one takes your posts seriously anyway! :D

Speaking of which, just in case you really are leaving. I have to take this final oppourtunity to tell you that you are probably making a huge mistake. It's nothing personal man, but those dudes are going to eat you alive. Once they pick up on your sensitivity and overall view of the world according to Chellis, you are going to become their favorite target. I have been exactly where you will be doing your BASIC and AIT and quite frankly those that are No Goes and Reserve are thrown in with large numbers of guys going Ranger/Airborne, and you will become fodder for them. It is not pretty and thinking back I feel very badly for a few of those guys. Your DI's will all be Rangers and they will have no sympathy for what you are going through, so if you think the garbage you are getting at home in California is tough, you have no clue what tough is...yet. Do yourself a favor and choose another MOS if you can. If you can't change your mind and are stuck with what you have chosen, for god sake man keep your opinions to yourself. The last thing you want is to be the guest of honor at a blanket party.

Its funny, you act like I can't take insults or something. I do, easily, every day. There is a difference between being able to handle them, and choosing to go somewhere to constantly hear them, somewhere I was going to have fun.

Why should I keep coming here, somewhere I come to enjoy myself, to hear bullshit constantly? It was still better than my normal life before, but now that I'm starting to actually be happy, I can say "screw it".

And out of all the military people I've met, they are some of the coolest people I have met in a long time. Even the ones who already went through Basic, though they weren't particularly nice, they weren't asses or anything.

Okay, I've just read the "Two Cows" thread, and the amount of French-bashing in there was MINISCULE! Either it's been edited or Chellis is too sensitive to exist in a world like this.

It was the principle of the thing. I could understand, if not like, french-bashing in a thread about the french, or heavily relating to them. I come into those threads knowing I'm going to hear more idiotic "jokes", and choose to or not to read them. But in a thread with a large number of good jokes, very inoffensive and lighthearted, people get into more french bashing.

It just pisses me off that no matter where I go, I hear this bullcrap. I can't remember the last time in general I saw a thread with the word French, without the word surrendur somewhere in there, or an equally idiotic statement. I love how people are calling me fucking sensitive, just because I don't like to be constantly put down in a place I come to have fun. Sorry if I wanted to fucking enjoy myself here.

I wasn't talking about cow jokes, I found those funny, even the french ones. I'm talking about a side discussion about the french that popped up.

Good natured? I can't hear the word french without someone mentioning the word surrendur. Its annoying as all fuck.

Don't you think that this is based on current American ethnic humor? We went through a few years of Polish jokes, then there were the starving ~insert name of third world country~ jokes, and the Taliban jokes were everywhere right after 9/11. Right now Americans are more and more aware of France's involvement with Saddam, criticisms are flying back and forth, and France is just the latest target for humor and criticism.

Don't you think that this is based on current American ethnic humor? We went through a few years of Polish jokes, then there were the starving ~insert name of third world country~ jokes, and the Taliban jokes were everywhere right after 9/11. Right now Americans are more and more aware of France's involvement with Saddam, criticisms are flying back and forth, and France is just the latest target for humor and criticism.

Except I've been hearing this french crap my entire life. It hasn't just popped up since iraq, nor the riots. Its an ongoing idiocy that has been going on much longer than I've been alive. Again, I come here to enjoy myself, not get my ancestors and my blood constantly insulted. The vast majority of people believe these french "jokes", and its fucking annoying. Why should I choose to deal with this bullcrap in my spare time?

Except I've been hearing this french crap my entire life. It hasn't just popped up since iraq, nor the riots. Its an ongoing idiocy that has been going on much longer than I've been alive. Again, I come here to enjoy myself, not get my ancestors and my blood constantly insulted. The vast majority of people believe these french "jokes", and its fucking annoying. Why should I choose to deal with this bullcrap in my spare time?

This same idiocy goes on about Italians, Germans, Brits, Australians, every other nation and/or culture in the world. You don't think there aren't a few hundred "American" jokes in other countries???? As a matter of fact, why doesn't someone start an American joke thread? No one can or would force you to stay if you really don't want to. But, if you mostly enjoy NS, then you could avoid or leave threads that take a turn that annoys you. Lord knows you've annoyed me a few times. I just hit the big button and go do something else when that happens.

Except I've been hearing this french crap my entire life. It hasn't just popped up since iraq, nor the riots. Its an ongoing idiocy that has been going on much longer than I've been alive. Again, I come here to enjoy myself, not get my ancestors and my blood constantly insulted. The vast majority of people believe these french "jokes", and its fucking annoying. Why should I choose to deal with this bullcrap in my spare time?
I'm sorry you feel that way, but there's a lot more jokes, flames, accusations, and negative posts about the US than France. Maybe we're used to it, since Americans either are, or are descended from, people who were thrown out of the countries that now bash the US.

I believe the French military history I've posted before. It's not idiocy.

BTW, other French people are fed up, too.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17235631%255E601,00.html

French rail at foreign 'beat-up'
Emma-Kate Symons, Paris
November 14, 2005

THE French have had enough of the riots that are sullying their international reputation as the land of civility, as well as liberty, equality and fraternity.

By the end of last week, there was a collective sense of relief as the nightly toll of burnt cars, and torched schools, nurseries, gyms, warehouses and small businesses rapidly diminished.

A few hundred - as opposed to well over a thousand - incinerated cars and a significant drop in violence in the troubled suburbs of Paris signalled for most French citizens a welcome break from the fortnight of violence that had threatened the whole concept of law and order in the republic.

With the imposition of an unprecedented state of emergency authorising local authorities to slap curfews on unruly young people, hopes grew that the untamed youth of the suburbs would quietly return to their housing estates.

Many commentators on French television and the major newspapers whined about the gross exaggerations of the riots in the foreign media.

"This is not Chechnya," one angry resident of Clichy-sous-Bois, the isolated Paris immigrant suburb where the rioting began two weeks ago, angrily told The Australian at a memorial rally for the town's gym, burned down the evening before by a gleeful mob of pyromaniacs.

This same idiocy goes on about Italians, Germans, Brits, Australians, every other nation and/or culture in the world. You don't think there aren't a few hundred "American" jokes in other countries???? As a matter of fact, why doesn't someone start an American joke thread? No one can or would force you to stay if you really don't want to. But, if you mostly enjoy NS, then you could avoid or leave threads that take a turn that annoys you. Lord knows you've annoyed me a few times. I just hit the big button and go do something else when that happens.

If you think any of these are with the same frequency as french jokes, you are delusional. Well, maybe anytime italians and war are mentioned, but other than that. I rarely see german or british jokes on these forums, maybe a rare nazi joke or british bad cooking. Whats the difference? People don't actually believe the germans are still nazi's. Or that australians are all convicts.

As for america, I don't think there are as many idiotic jokes. There are many more gripes, but outright insults and derogatory comments? I don't believe so. Now, about bush, I'll agree, but america as a whole? I very much doubt it.

As for america, I don't think there are as many idiotic jokes. There are many more gripes, but outright insults and derogatory comments? I don't believe so. Now, about bush, I'll agree, but america as a whole? I very much doubt it.
Oh really?

http://russia-in-us.com/Humor/rusamer.html
http://www.bizbrowse.com/jokes/American/etis-american-jokes.htm

Here the Canadians are targets with us:

http://www.geocities.com/seandlh/jokes.htm

Edit: Are you Zooke-bashing by saying I am delusional?

Well, shit. Since you're leaving, here's a good-bye basket. It consists of two bottles of vodka, a pack of condoms, and a gun with two bullets, a kilo of cocaine, and $2,000. Enjoy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/jsquires/Blog/fruit_basket_1.jpg

I think I'm the one who constantly ribs the Canadians about the Avro Arrow and clubbing seals... ;)

I think I'm the one who constantly ribs the Canadians about the Avro Arrow and clubbing seals... ;)

I have one word to sum up American jokes:


REDNECK

Disclaimer: I am in no way related to my husband...at least as far as Uncle Bubba can remember. Pass the cornbread please.

I have one word to sum up American jokes:


REDNECK

Disclaimer: I am in no way related to my husband...at least as far as Uncle Bubba can remember. Pass the cornbread please.

You might be a redneck if......

Gotta love Jeff Foxworthy :D

You might be a redneck if......

Gotta love Jeff Foxworthy :D

He is funny...except I know a lot of the people who are the subjects of his jokes. In reality, though, the general impression of other nationalities expressed on NS of Americans often are tainted with the redneck stereotype. At lease we have evolved in their minds from the Beverly Hillbillies.

Oh really?

http://russia-in-us.com/Humor/rusamer.html
http://www.bizbrowse.com/jokes/American/etis-american-jokes.htm

Here the Canadians are targets with us:

http://www.geocities.com/seandlh/jokes.htm

Edit: Are you Zooke-bashing by saying I am delusional?

I've heard a total of one of those jokes on the forums(the first in the second link, except it was about kerry, not bush). I know all these american "jokes" are out there too, but I don't see them almost ever. I see little america bashing here. I see christian bashing, republican, democrat, X state, etc, but not america bashing almost at all.

I'm sorry for my ignorance here. Is CHELLIS French?

I see christian bashing, republican, democrat, X state, etc, but not america bashing almost at all.

I guess you missed Stephistan's statement that America is the greatest threat to the world, etc...

Well, shit. Since you're leaving, here's a good-bye basket. It consists of two bottles of vodka, a pack of condoms, and a gun with two bullets, a kilo of cocaine, and $2,000. Enjoy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/jsquires/Blog/fruit_basket_1.jpg

Wow, you know just what I love(minus the cocaine).

I've heard a total of one of those jokes on the forums(the first in the second link, except it was about kerry, not bush). I know all these american "jokes" are out there too, but I don't see them almost ever. I see little america bashing here. I see christian bashing, republican, democrat, X state, etc, but not america bashing almost at all.

This while there is an active thread (by a Canadian) thanking Americans for voting the way other countries wish and climbing out of the pit of ignorance and robot responses? Puh-leeeeez

I'm sorry for my ignorance here. Is CHELLIS French?

No, he is not. He is an american, with strong french heritage and a love for his blood.

I have been thinking about this for a while, but never really was sure if I was going to do it.

Then I saw more french-bashing, in the fucking two cow thread. That was the most colossal disappointment in mankind I have had in the longest time. So I've had it. I don't want to deal with such idiocy anymore. I may pop up in some random thread in the future, but for all intents and purposes, I'm done.
I hate to see you go Chellis.

But honestly, real sorry about the French getting pissed on, Not like there is ever a shortage of USA bashing--FRance has some riots for being the most profoundly racist First World Nations and we are supposed to put away our sense of humor--yeah well feck that.

I hope everyone on this board is offended beyond speech.
There is an endless stream of derogatory remarks for all manner of people.

Get over it, it you werent such an attention whore you would have made your exit quitely instead of attracting more people to do exactly what it is that upset you.

Bye, Bye.

He is funny...except I know a lot of the people who are the subjects of his jokes. In reality, though, the general impression of other nationalities expressed on NS of Americans often are tainted with the redneck stereotype. At lease we have evolved in their minds from the Beverly Hillbillies.

I always laugh at the redneck jokes. Why get offended at joking about stereotypes? I never saw any sense in it.

This while there is an active thread thanking Americans for voting the way other countries wish and climbing out of the pit of ignorance and robot responses? Puh-leeeeez

I hadn't seen such a thread. I guess I must have a 6th sense to dodge all these america bashing threads.

No, he is not. He is an american, with strong french heritage and a love for his blood.

I'm an American and I'm 15% French and I joke about the French. Hell, I joke about everyone including Americans from the South and my GF lives in the South.

No, he is not. He is an american, with strong french heritage and a love for his blood.
Well, as far as bashing goes, this is what I am. Don't tell me you hear more shit about "French" people than I do about the following.

American
Redneck
Anti-abortion
Anti-socialism
Gun Owner
Patriotic
Militaristic
Bush supporter

Lifes a bitch, suck it up!

I hate to see you go Chellis.

But honestly, real sorry about the French getting pissed on, Not like there is ever a shortage of USA bashing--FRance has some riots for being the most profoundly racist First World Nations and we are supposed to put away our sense of humor--yeah well feck that.

I hope everyone on this board is offended beyond speech.
There is an endless stream of derogatory remarks for all manner of people.

Get over it, it you werent such an attention whore you would have made your exit quitely instead of attracting more people to do exactly what it is that upset you.

Bye, Bye.

It has nothing to do with the riot. I've been on these forums much longer than you, don't treat me like I'm some sort of newbie. The french bashing was only a catalyst, not the reason, which so many of you seem to think it is.

Alot of people know me on the forums, I'm letting people know I'm leaving. I did the same thing on II, about a year ago, and didn't return. Its not an attention thing. But whatever. Its pointless to argue, as most things on this forum are. Nobody who argues changes their opinion, only the silent form their thoughts.

I'm an American and I'm 15% French and I joke about the French. Hell, I joke about everyone including Americans from the South and my GF lives in the South.
You joke about the South? South America?

Or maybe the "South" to which you refer is the Southern US? :mp5:

You joke about the South? South America?

Or maybe the "South" to which you refer is the Southern US? :mp5:

The Southern US Eut. Come on. Don't tell me your as dumb as everyone else in the deep south :D

Well, as far as bashing goes, this is what I am. Don't tell me you hear more shit about "French" people than I do about the following.

American
Redneck
Anti-abortion
Anti-socialism
Gun Owner
Patriotic
Militaristic
Bush supporter

Lifes a bitch, suck it up!

So? I'm the following

American
Sub-urban
Pro-abortion
Pro-socialism
Gun Owner
Patriotic
Military member
Kerry supporter
Atheist
French

The list goes on.

This isn't life, this is at best a facimile where I go to get away from life. If this becomes a bitch too, why stay?

If this becomes a bitch too, why stay?

Apropos, weren't you leaving?

So? I'm the following

American
Sub-urban
Pro-abortion
Pro-socialism
Gun Owner
Patriotic
Military member
Kerry supporter
Atheist
French

The list goes on.

This isn't life, this is at best a facimile where I go to get away from life. If this becomes a bitch too, why stay?Why stay? No reason at all. It's not like you "owe" us anything. If you think the French bashing is so horrible, then leave. The following isn't a french bash, and is no way related to you being french, but personally, I hope you don't give up on EVERYtHING that offends you! It'll make for a rough life!

It has nothing to do with the riot. I've been on these forums much longer than you, don't treat me like I'm some sort of newbie. The french bashing was only a catalyst, not the reason, which so many of you seem to think it is.

Alot of people know me on the forums, I'm letting people know I'm leaving. I did the same thing on II, about a year ago, and didn't return. Its not an attention thing. But whatever. Its pointless to argue, as most things on this forum are. Nobody who argues changes their opinion, only the silent form their thoughts.

So, if I get it right, you're not leaving specifically because of the French criticizing going on, but from general forum boredom and a frustration that others aren't changing their minds?

No, he is not. He is an american, with strong french heritage and a love for his blood.
I rather like my blood too, and feel most agreived on those times when we are forced to part ways.
Wait, you mean the other kind of blood? Bah, heritage is nothing special.

Anyway, shouldn't you be gone already? Maybe you've just forgotten how to log out. Just hit Alt+F4 or Cmd+W, and the big evil NSGeneral will go away forever. YAY!!

It has nothing to do with the riot. I've been on these forums much longer than you, don't treat me like I'm some sort of newbie. The french bashing was only a catalyst, not the reason, which so many of you seem to think it is.

Alot of people know me on the forums, I'm letting people know I'm leaving. I did the same thing on II, about a year ago, and didn't return. Its not an attention thing. But whatever. Its pointless to argue, as most things on this forum are. Nobody who argues changes their opinion, only the silent form their thoughts.

Dont ignore my first sentence Chellis, you were one of the first Old timers i encountered and I have been here for awhile longer then this account.

When I siad I would hate to see you go, I meant it.

However I meant what else I said as well.
It also stands to reason you would name the primary reason for your leaving and not the periphery.

I didnt want to see you leave II--I left about when you did.
I dont want to see leave here--
Pleasee dont pretend you cant use a private message.
Or that you couldnt have posted your leaving without making the special point to focus on french bashing--and you did make that a point to do--even though you say that isnt even the main reason. It is after all the reason you felt worth mentioning. Was it not?

Apropos, weren't you leaving?

I am. However, I feel its only fair to explain why, and so many people don't seem to understand.

So, if I get it right, you're not leaving specifically because of the French criticizing going on, but from general forum boredom and a frustration that others aren't changing their minds?

Why do you have such a problem with his reasons for leaving? I don't remember him giving you a ration of shit when you made your self-indulgent pity-me leaving thread.

Or that you couldnt have posted your leaving without making the special point to focus on french bashing--and you did make that a point to do--even though you say that isnt even the main reason. It is after all the reason you felt worth mentioning. Was it not?

I mentioned it because it was symbolic of why I left. Its not just the french bashing, but the general bashing, flaming, trolling, idiotic arguing, etc on the forum. Notice that I didn't say I was leaving because I saw french flames, but because I saw them in the fucking cow thread. It just shows me how pedantic this whole forum is.

I am. However, I feel its only fair to explain why, and so many people don't seem to understand.
We understand just fine. We just don't agree with your assertions, nor do we condone the implications.

I am. However, I feel its only fair to explain why, and so many people don't seem to understand.
Whats not to understand? We're all a bunch of mean-heads who laugh, call you names, and won't let you join in any reindeer games.

Whats not to understand? We're all a bunch of mean-heads who laugh, call you names, and won't let you join in any reindeer games.
So Chellis = Rudolph? :eek:

So Chellis = Rudolph? :eek:
Well hopefully he'll return in time for the foggy Christmas Eve, so that his bright light can guide us (via example) into the future when everyone has the toys and presents that they want.

Wait, that means that Chellis, after surviving great persecution, is vanishing now to return later and guide us to paradise. CHELLIS=JESUS!:eek:

And since Jesus was a Killer Whale, that means Chellis must be one as well!

*Drops to hands and knees*

We bow before you great one! All Praise be yours!

Well hopefully he'll return in time for the foggy Christmas Eve, so that his bright light can guide us (via example) into the future when everyone has the toys and presents that they want.
No doubt! If I don't get my mandatory huge package of comfy new socks, I'm gonna do alot more than French bashing!


Wait, that means that Chellis, after surviving great persecution, is vanishing now to return later and guide us to paradise. CHELLIS=JESUS!

And since Jesus was a Killer Whale, that means Chellis must be one as well!

*Drops to hands and knees*

We bow before you great one! All Praise be yours!.
WTF? Santa=Jesus? No wonder I keep getting shafted on my "Crucifiction Barbie" playset!

I mentioned it because it was symbolic of why I left. Its not just the french bashing, but the general bashing, flaming, trolling, idiotic arguing, etc on the forum. Notice that I didn't say I was leaving because I saw french flames, but because I saw them in the fucking cow thread. It just shows me how pedantic this whole forum is.
Well, my understanding of reasons or my agreement with them aside.

I do sincerely mean I hate to see you go.
You were an Asset in II, you were--though hardly on my end of the spectrum--an intelligent person posting in general.

I am certain you will be greatly missed, especially by people who enjoy an intelligent post regardless of the position.

Good day Chellis, I hope you come back soon.

Why do you have such a problem with his reasons for leaving? I don't remember him giving you a ration of shit when you made your self-indulgent pity-me leaving thread.

Whoa!! Right there!! I have NEVER done a "self-indulgent pity-me leaving thread"! I have never left. I boycotted for 1 week in support of another NSer, I took an unannounced and unexplained hiatus for family issues, and I dropped out for a few weeks while recovering from a wreck, but I HAVE NEVER LEFT. Also, if you will read my posts thoroughly you will see that I have been giving him examples of other ethnic/national bashing and told him what I do when it starts to get under my skin. I suggest you put the claws away and back off!!

Edit: Jeez this pisses me off!! Get your facts straight and then please refrain from vicious personal attacks. It is very poor form.

WTF? Santa=Jesus? No wonder I keep getting shafted on my "Crucifiction Barbie" playset!
No, Rudolph=Jesus, Santa=God. It is all quite obvious, but I have little time to explain past your educated-stupidity.
And the reason you don't ger Crucifiction Barbie is because Barbie is of the devil. Ask for the Bratz slightly sluttier (and somehow greatly stupider) imitation Crucifiction set.

Whoa!! Right there!! I have NEVER done a "self-indulgent pity-me leaving thread"! I have never left. I boycotted for 1 week in support of another NSer, I took an unannounced and unexplained hiatus for family issues, and I dropped out for a few weeks while recovering from a wreck, but I HAVE NEVER LEFT. Also, if you will read my posts thoroughly you will see that I have been giving him examples of other ethnic/national bashing and told him what I do when it starts to get under my skin. I suggest you put the claws away and back off!!

I will do no such thing. You are attacking his motives for leaving, as if he needs your approval to do so. You are putting on your very familiar motherly act, where you pretend to be doing things for the best interests of a fellow poster, all while subtly mocking and bashing them under the guise of concern. Your "woe is America" act is tiresome. Just because there is also derision of America on this forum does not detract from whatever Chellis has percieved as unnecessary attacks on France. You sit here and try to convince him that his reasons for leaving are invalid because Americans have to deal with so much worse. I tire of you and all those like who with your martyr syndrome.

I tire of you and all those like who with your martyr syndrome.
Except that Chellis started himself up as a martyr first, by woefully casting aside these mortal shackles in favor of the Real World.
This is already an unnessecary pity party, why not have everyone lay in with their greiveinces?

I will do no such thing. You are attacking his motives for leaving, as if he needs your approval to do so. You are putting on your very familiar motherly act, where you pretend to be doing things for the best interests of a fellow poster, all while subtly mocking and bashing them under the guise of concern. Your "woe is America" act is tiresome. Just because there is also derision of America on this forum does not detract from whatever Chellis has percieved as unnecessary attacks on France. You sit here and try to convince him that his reasons for leaving are invalid because Americans have to deal with so much worse. I tire of you and all those like who with your martyr syndrome.

You made a false claim about me for no beneficial reason except to give you an excuse to vent on me. And, FYI, it is not a motherly "act". It is my nature on here as in RL. Please back up your claim with links to demonstrate that I subtley mock and bash others under a guise of concern. I daresay there are several on here who will vouch that they have received private encouragement and counsel from me and it was done out of concern with lack of malice.

Except that Chellis started himself up as a martyr first, by woefully casting aside these mortal shackles in favor of the Real World.
This is already an unnessecary pity party, why not have everyone lay in with their greiveinces?

Because Chellis simply announced his departure, and his reasons. I admit it was unnecessarily self-indulgent, and I have continued my policy of not giving a shit when people make big pity threads announcing their departure. But the attitude of Zooke and people like her who come into this thread and essentially say, "Oh, you shouldn't leave, because us Americans have it SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much worse!" is absolutely assinine.

Except that Chellis started himself up as a martyr first, by woefully casting aside these mortal shackles in favor of the Real World.
This is already an unnessecary pity party, why not have everyone lay in with their greiveinces?

Chellis countered my assumption that there were American jokes floating around in other countries. I provided links to prove that my assumption was correct. Have I in any way boo-hooed about this form of humor? No. It's a fact of life that the Smiths are going to make fun of the Jones while talking to the Jacksons.

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Fine then, have at each other, I officially withdraw my comments! Last time I step into the middle of a cat fight.

Because Chellis simply announced his departure, and his reasons. I admit it was unnecessarily self-indulgent, and I have continued my policy of not giving a shit when people make big pity threads announcing their departure. But the attitude of Zooke and people like her who come into this thread and essentially say, "Oh, you shouldn't leave, because us Americans have it SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much worse!" is absolutely assinine.

See post 156 then go back and read my posts again. Also, while you're at it, you have made the following accusations and have failed to provide links as proof:

1. I made a self-indulgent pity-me leaving thread
2. I foster a familiar motherly act
3. That I subtly mocking and bashing them under the guise of concern (grammar doesn't work but I wanted to keep the quote intact)
4. That I have posted in this thread with a martyr syndrome

These are some pretty harsh and purely personal attacks. If you cannot back up these statements with proof then an apology is due...or else back off and leave me alone. Got it?

Fine then, have at each other, I officially withdraw my comments! Last time I step into the middle of a cat fight.

Sorry Fiddle. Hit the quote button on your post instead of his. Poor aim?

See post 156 then go back and read my posts again. Also, while you're at it, you have made the following accusations and have failed to provide links as proof:

1. I made a self-indulgent pity-me leaving thread
2. I foster a familiar motherly act
3. That I subtly mocking and bashing them under the guise of concern (grammar doesn't work but I wanted to keep the quote intact)
4. That I have posted in this thread with a martyr syndrome

These are some pretty harsh and purely personal attacks. If you cannot back up these statements with proof then an apology is due...or else back off and leave me alone. Got it?

Crying about how awful us Americans get made fun of:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9925221&postcount=59
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9925240&postcount=62
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9926106&postcount=112
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9926163&postcount=115

Deriding his reason for leaving:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9925197&postcount=58
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9925739&postcount=93
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9926254&postcount=125

I'll withdraw the pity thread claim as I can't seem to find the posts you made when Eutrusca was forum banned.

Crying about how awful us Americans get made fun of:

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Ignoring the call for someone to make an American joke thread and trying to lighten the mood with the "Zooke-bashing" crack? Proof lacking.

Deriding his reason for leaving:

~snip~

I was trying to point out to him that in one way or another all of us have some favorite subject criticized and made fun of on here and some people even lump Americans and Canadians together in their humor. One of those posts wasn't even in response to Chellis. Proof lacking.


I'll withdraw the pity thread claim as I can't seem to find the posts you made when Eutrusca was forum banned.

You know why you can't find them? Because I boycotted NS in support of Eut while he was banned. I didn't agree with the mods decision, but rather than argue with them, I boycotted for the term of his banishment. Hardly a self-indulgent pity-me leaving thread. Obviously you are willing to stretch anything I say out of all proportion in order to attack me personally. You no longer exist to me.

Proof lacking my ass. If post 62 isn't complaining about how much the US gets made fun of, then you're delusional. If post 125 isn't you blowing off Chellis' complaints, then what is it? The reason I can't find all your posts about how you were going to show solidarity with Eutrusca's "unfair" banning is because you have 2000 posts that I don't feel like sifting through.

You know I think it is time that Bothe of you cooled your jets... Yes there a lot of bashing here, does that mean you should bash eachother? NO... For all your petty complaints Sdaeriji, I am afraid you may have finally surpassed all the good that Zooke HAS done... Finally and this is at bothe of you... THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT EITHER OF YOU, YOU ARE WRETCHEDLY OFF TOPIC..

On topic: If you wish to leave, leave... I have refrained from posting as much because of my personal preferences and background. The choice is yours.

You know I think it is time that Bothe of you cooled your jets... Yes there a lot of bashing here, does that mean you should bash eachother? NO... For all your petty complaints Sdaeriji, I am afraid you may have finally surpassed all the good that Zooke HAS done... Finally and this is at bothe of you... THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT EITHER OF YOU, YOU ARE WRETCHEDLY OFF TOPIC..

On topic: If you wish to leave, leave... I have refrained from posting as much because of my personal preferences and background. The choice is yours.

Thank you Fox. You're right, as usual. A personal fuss was not called for and a waste of a perfectly good thread. I got upset and felt the need to clarify my intent, which just served to upset me more. When I regained my sense I logged off and walked away. Thanks again...you're a blessing.

Edit: You know, when I get upset, I play this game called Geneforge. I take my creations and destroy all the "bad" guys with extreme violence.

JUst thought I would ask if anyone in this thread has reminded people to google "french military victories" and hit 'I'm Feeling Lucky'.

Sorry, I couldn't help it.

JUst thought I would ask if anyone in this thread has reminded people to google "french military victories" and hit 'I'm Feeling Lucky'.

Sorry, I couldn't help it.

Oh no....this is so not needed right now. Funny...but not needed.

Oh no....this is so not needed right now. Funny...but not needed.


I disagree. The last thing I wanted to see was another "oh, I feel so oppressed I am leaving" thread. Everyone gets pissed on, made fun of, flamed, or whatever on a daily basis in this forum...christians, atheists, conservatives, libertarians, democrats, americans, canadians, english, germans...why should the french get special treatment?

So buck up and deal, or go sit at the little kids table.

Bye, see ya, and let me kick you while you're whining. THAT was my point.

ohhh *grabs Duct tape and tapes up ACNAT* ^^ We are good now... Hay sometimes a friendly reminder as all thats needed....

Darn now I am off topic....

ohhh *grabs Duct tape and tapes up ACNAT* ^^ We are good now... Hay sometimes a friendly reminder as all thats needed....

Darn now I am off topic....

Nah...you're OK. Humor is always a positive.

Chellis...I'm sorry if my intent was misunderstood by you. I was simply trying to show how we all have opinions, beliefs, and ideologies that are attacked in a way that upset us. I haven't participated in the French bashing as I avoid involving myself in attacks on any segment of society, so I really don't know what kind of ignorant statements and jokes people have made. My purpose was to show that NS is an open, almost anything goes forum and someone gets their nose bumped every second. But, if you enjoy NS, and since you're one of the original nations I figure it is important to you, I thought you might use some sanity preservation measures so that NS wasn't ruined for you. We have directly opposite views on any number of issues, but every voice that is silenced is a loss to all. Don't go....please?

This thread just shows how blatantly ignorant and downright stupid some forum users are. Hell, it just proves any theory monkeys and even dumber mammals can use the internet. vBulletin made their software too simple to use.

Damn, Chellis. I didn't mean anything by it. It was just a joke. It wasn't even an insult to the French people. Just a joke about the rioters burning cars.

Chellis countered my assumption that there were American jokes floating around in other countries. I provided links to prove that my assumption was correct. Have I in any way boo-hooed about this form of humor? No. It's a fact of life that the Smiths are going to make fun of the Jones while talking to the Jacksons.
What was the last thing to go through the mind of a stockbrocker working in the WTC on a bright september morning in 2001?
The radio mast.

What was the last thing to go through the mind of a stockbrocker working in the WTC on a bright september morning in 2001?
The radio mast.
You could at least try, ya know! :rolleyes:

You could at least try, ya know! :rolleyes:
Sorry: I thought she was issuing a demand.

Sorry: I thought she was issuing a demand.
I just take exception to the fact that it wasn't very original. I, as a proud American, DEMAND you make an ORIGINAL funny joke about 9/11!

Ah, I see.

I have been thinking about this for a while, but never really was sure if I was going to do it.

Then I saw more french-bashing, in the fucking two cow thread. That was the most colossal disappointment in mankind I have had in the longest time. So I've had it. I don't want to deal with such idiocy anymore. I may pop up in some random thread in the future, but for all intents and purposes, I'm done.


So your answer is, in true to form French fashion, give up?

How ironic. :p

So your answer is, in true to form French fashion, give up?

How ironic. :p

:rolleyes:

I make bad and totally inane jokesAnd I bet you're the only person who's laughing. Very, very sad.

Bye Chellis. (Not that I really believe you're actually leaving, since you know you can't resist my bitter charm and the glory that is repetitive pseudo-political bickering.)