NationStates Jolt Archive


Rioting

The blessed Chris
11-11-2005, 20:17
In response to the unseemly sympathy so many people have in relation to the rioters in France, I will ask the following; Would you be so sympathetic and reasonable were the riots in your own country? Or would you react differently, simply because you enjoy the distress of the French?
Syniks
11-11-2005, 20:21
In response to the unseemly sympathy so many people have in relation to the rioters in France, I will ask the following; Would you be so sympathetic and reasonable were the riots in your own country? Or would you react differently, simply because you enjoy the distress of the French?
I would be shooting Rioters... at least if they came within a molotov-coctail's throw of my home. :sniper:
Lionstone
11-11-2005, 20:22
I have no sympathy with rioting types.


Get back in your place peasants! :Riot Police:

We need a riot police smiley.


If you are not going to vote dont whine when your government ignores you.
The blessed Chris
11-11-2005, 20:23
I would be shooting Rioters... at least if they came within a molotov-coctail's throw of my home. :sniper:

Finally, someone else with sense, i did think rioting and arson was illegal, but apparently not if you belong to an "impoverished and deprived" region of a city.:rolleyes:
Sick Nightmares
11-11-2005, 20:30
I'd be sitting on my front porch with a shotgun and a bottle of Yukon Jack, hoping that the riots ended before the bottle! :D
Free Soviets
11-11-2005, 20:30
depends on the riot, doesn't it? riots by the oppressed and disenfranchised are, if not good things, at least understandable and a sure sign that there are underlying issues that desperately need to be addressed. however, sports fan riots, while sometimes great fun, are largely alcohol fueled parties rather than political acts.

i generally support rioters whether they are in france, argentina, or benton harbor.
Sick Nightmares
11-11-2005, 20:46
depends on the riot, doesn't it? riots by the oppressed and disenfranchised are, if not good things, at least understandable and a sure sign that there are underlying issues that desperately need to be addressed. however, sports fan riots, while sometimes great fun, are largely alcohol fueled parties rather than political acts.

i generally support rioters whether they are in france, argentina, or benton harbor.
I shoot rioters, so support them from a distance, k?
Kamsaki
11-11-2005, 20:46
In response to the unseemly sympathy so many people have in relation to the rioters in France, I will ask the following; Would you be so sympathetic and reasonable were the riots in your own country? Or would you react differently, simply because you enjoy the distress of the French?
I don't and I didn't. Experience has shown me that the majority of rioters have no cause beyond sheer vandalism. We had a week of rioting here in September over the whole Orange parade fiasco and I can tell you there was no attention paid to the politics of the whole thing.

The french kids are exactly the same. Any excuse to screw the system and get their kicks out of it. Although admittedly the response to it has been even poorer than ours was. The trick to handling it would have been to empathise with the average french bystander rather than antagonise the average french rioter. The government is paying dearly for its mistake.
Carops
11-11-2005, 20:52
I may be unable to stand the French, but I feel more annoyed than amused that they cannot sort this all out.
Syniks
11-11-2005, 20:55
depends on the riot, doesn't it? riots by the oppressed and disenfranchised are, if not good things, at least understandable and a sure sign that there are underlying issues that desperately need to be addressed. however, sports fan riots, while sometimes great fun, are largely alcohol fueled parties rather than political acts.

i generally support rioters whether they are in france, argentina, or benton harbor.
Well, I'M between Sheboygan and Benton Harbor... so if you are keen on going to engage in particapatory support at the next Benton Harbor "Self Righteous Fun and Profit" Riot I duly suggest that for your own safety you make your trip up US 12 a speedy and non-stop one.
DrunkenDove
11-11-2005, 21:01
I've been at a couple of riots. I generally disagree with them, but sometines they're need to shake people out of their apathy.
Free Soviets
11-11-2005, 21:13
Well, I'M between Sheboygan and Benton Harbor... so if you are keen on going to engage in particapatory support the next Benton Harbor "Self Righteous Fun and Profit" Riot I duly suggest that for your own safety you make your trip up US 12 a speedy and non-stop one.

you can't take 12 non-stop through chicago. it just won't work - you'll certainly catch a train or two in des plaines at the very least. besides, 12 comes from madison and whitewater, not sheboygan.

at the time, a number of chicagoans took part in a rally to support the people of benton harbor. shoot many of them?
Tremerica
11-11-2005, 21:16
I would join a riot in my country (despite what the motivations are), get the rioters trust, work my way to the top and then overthrow the government and become a dictator.
The Similized world
11-11-2005, 21:21
In response to the unseemly sympathy so many people have in relation to the rioters in France, I will ask the following; Would you be so sympathetic and reasonable were the riots in your own country? Or would you react differently, simply because you enjoy the distress of the French?
I'd be among the rioters, so take a guess.
Syniks
11-11-2005, 21:37
you can't take 12 non-stop through chicago. it just won't work - you'll certainly catch a train or two in des plaines at the very least. besides, 12 comes from madison and whitewater, not sheboygan. So you take 94. Same deal. Bring the Riot here, bad things happen.
at the time, a number of chicagoans took part in a rally to support the people of benton harbor. shoot many of them?
They didn't do it near me. I'm on the Michigan border. US 20 is within 100yds of my home and 212 is just down the road.

Besides, there is a difference between a Rally and a Riot. In fact, that difference is the KEY difference between ligitimacy and criminality.

There is no legitimate use of violence except for Self Defense. A rioter is using violence non defensively. They are destroying for pleasure and to make a point. If that violence threatens me I terminate it - with prejudice.

A Rally is peaceful. There is no violence. If you have a sufficiently large aggreived population, it stands to reason that massive Rallies are fare more beneficial than burning down your own town. It worked for Gahndi, but somehow it just doesn't seem to apply to US ideologues or "aggreived minority groups".
The Nazz
11-11-2005, 21:44
Boy, there's a lot of shit-talkers in this thread. :rolleyes:
DrunkenDove
11-11-2005, 21:47
It is an internet forum after all.
Syniks
11-11-2005, 21:54
Boy, there's a lot of shit-talkers in this thread. :rolleyes:
Nice to know your vocabulary is still in prime form... :rolleyes: