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All right, I'll be straightforward. I don't mind trolling/spamming/etc. In fact, I'm one of those who gets a kick out of doing it. I find it absolutely hilarious. The responses I get, the stuff I type; it just cracks me up. If you would rather not help someone who, you feel, deserves what's coming to them, then this thread isn't for you.

I try not to be illegal. I don't make threats, try not to use too obscene words, etc. I think that the more stupid you make your posts/emails/whatever without having to stoop to the vulgar level, the funnier it is.

But I digress. I am a member of my school's French Honor Society. They send out emails occasionally. They make the mistake of including everyone's email address on it; so, being the [bleep] I am, I send several emails to all of those members (with a fake email of course).

The first email I sent was about the service credits we needed. I don't have a copy of it, but it was something to the effect of "omg!!!11 why so many credits i neeeedddd? help me someone please!!111". I got a response from the Society President and the below words in italics are my responses:
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Being a member of the French Honor Society is an honorable position and is
not taken lightly.

nice way to use honor twice in one sentence. u poopie.

Students are required to complete service and enrichment
credits because our Society emphasizes these characteristics in order to build
better role models in our community. As a new member, you were informed of
the requirements before your application. In addition, new members are
required to complete five credits by December 22 (old members must complete ten).

umm i think i know the requirements. i dont need to hear the propaganda.

The officers schedule plenty of events that members can sign up for in
advance. If members have a problem attending these events, they can inform
an officer to discuss other credit opportunities.

what like four events? all of which are enrichment credits except for one? i need more service credits!!!!!!111oneshiftone!!!!11

If you feel that the French Honor Society is not for you, feel free to
resign your membership by e-mailing me or talking to Mme. **** Also, for future
reference, please direct your emails, including your name and grade level, to
me (_*****@aol.com_ (mailto:****@aol.com) ) or Mme. ****
(_****@***.net_ (mailto:****@***.net) ) to avoid wasting other members' time.

thanks for the condescending tone stinker. i do what i want
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After that, I recieved an email from one of the members asking why I was sending emails to him; below is my response:

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"sorry ill send my emails to whoever i want. thank you. please dont tallk to me like that again. kthnxsbye

ps go back to wisconsin and jerk it, kweer.

pss if you have a weiner, that is. i dont."

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At the end of each message I left the name of some random student I remembered. Granted, I do deserve any punishment that will come if I am caught, I just have some questions.

First, has any crime been committed by me sending these emails? I didn't make any threats. But could I be criminally charged?

Secondly, how would someone track me down through the emails I sent?

I would ask how to not get caught, but I have a feeling that's against the rules. Most importantly, I just want to know what laws I've broken.

If you could find in your hearts some compassion for a known troll, I would greatly appreciate it. Though, you may be asking yourselves, "Why should we help you?", I ask you "What sets you apart from trolls if you don't help somebody?"

Sorry, you're on your own, what with you being the author of your own misfortunes and all.

I couldn't care less.

Well, you were being a jerk.

I fully understand that I am on my own. However, I wish to know if any laws have been broken, other than being an asshole.

oh the cia can track you within an hour. Plus you used false information and criminaly impersonated other people plus you broke the anti spam laws admitedly on a very small scale but you still did a lot you are so doomed. I am going to take up a nice ring side view of hell now to watch you suffer.:D

Spam is only good if it's funny and if it's funny, by definition, it really can't be Spam.

What you've done isn't funny. It's a start, a rough cut of what could be if you keep practising and live the dream, but that's many years and many emails away.

At the end of each message I left the name of some random student I remembered. Granted, I do deserve any punishment that will come if I am caught, I just have some questions.

First, has any crime been committed by me sending these emails? I didn't make any threats. But could I be criminally charged?

Secondly, how would someone track me down through the emails I sent?

I would ask how to not get caught, but I have a feeling that's against the rules. Most importantly, I just want to know what laws I've broken.

If you could find in your hearts some compassion for a known troll, I would greatly appreciate it. Though, you may be asking yourselves, "Why should we help you?", I ask you "What sets you apart from trolls if you don't help somebody?"

First, you might be able to be charged with mischief or identity theft (using someone else's name is a no no; make one up).

Second, it is surprisingly easy (if you know how) to track down someone through the e-mails they've sent. But for the sake of brevity I won't actually explain it here.

I guess that's about it.

Number III

All right, I'll be straightforward. I don't mind trolling/spamming/etc. In fact, I'm one of those who gets a kick out of doing it. I find it absolutely hilarious. The responses I get, the stuff I type; it just cracks me up. If you would rather not help someone who, you feel, deserves what's coming to them, then this thread isn't for you.

I try not to be illegal. I don't make threats, try not to use too obscene words, etc. I think that the more stupid you make your posts/emails/whatever without having to stoop to the vulgar level, the funnier it is.

But I digress. I am a member of my school's French Honor Society. They send out emails occasionally. They make the mistake of including everyone's email address on it; so, being the [bleep] I am, I send several emails to all of those members (with a fake email of course).

The first email I sent was about the service credits we needed. I don't have a copy of it, but it was something to the effect of "omg!!!11 why so many credits i neeeedddd? help me someone please!!111". I got a response from the Society President and the below words in italics are my responses:
-----------

Being a member of the French Honor Society is an honorable position and is
not taken lightly.

nice way to use honor twice in one sentence. u poopie.

Students are required to complete service and enrichment
credits because our Society emphasizes these characteristics in order to build
better role models in our community. As a new member, you were informed of
the requirements before your application. In addition, new members are
required to complete five credits by December 22 (old members must complete ten).

umm i think i know the requirements. i dont need to hear the propaganda.

The officers schedule plenty of events that members can sign up for in
advance. If members have a problem attending these events, they can inform
an officer to discuss other credit opportunities.

what like four events? all of which are enrichment credits except for one? i need more service credits!!!!!!111oneshiftone!!!!11

If you feel that the French Honor Society is not for you, feel free to
resign your membership by e-mailing me or talking to Mme. **** Also, for future
reference, please direct your emails, including your name and grade level, to
me (_*****@aol.com_ (mailto:****@aol.com) ) or Mme. ****
(_****@***.net_ (mailto:****@***.net) ) to avoid wasting other members' time.

thanks for the condescending tone stinker. i do what i want
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After that, I recieved an email from one of the members asking why I was sending emails to him; below is my response:

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"sorry ill send my emails to whoever i want. thank you. please dont tallk to me like that again. kthnxsbye

ps go back to wisconsin and jerk it, kweer.

pss if you have a weiner, that is. i dont."

-----

At the end of each message I left the name of some random student I remembered. Granted, I do deserve any punishment that will come if I am caught, I just have some questions.

First, has any crime been committed by me sending these emails? I didn't make any threats. But could I be criminally charged?

Secondly, how would someone track me down through the emails I sent?

I would ask how to not get caught, but I have a feeling that's against the rules. Most importantly, I just want to know what laws I've broken.

If you could find in your hearts some compassion for a known troll, I would greatly appreciate it. Though, you may be asking yourselves, "Why should we help you?", I ask you "What sets you apart from trolls if you don't help somebody?"


Being as you are an admitted troll, I hope that you HAVE broken some laws...and that you DO get caught, and that there are some consequences for your actions. maybe then you'll learn that trolling isn't funny.

Serve you right, if you ask me.

If nothing else, signing another person's name to your emails could cause trouble for that other person, so it hopefully should come back to haunt YOU instead.

No sympathy here.

Hope ya get caught and punished.

:mp5: Yes you did. And now you're going to hell. HAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:sniper:
:sniper: :sniper: :mp5: :mp5:

You brought it all upon yourself, I have no advice for you except bite the bullet.

Anybody want to come bye me I got some nice ring side seats of hell to watch what is going to happen so what do you all say :D :D :D :D :p :p

PS: I do not realy i am joking aout his doom. Criminal impersonation is a federal offence

Two quick points. First, if being a fucking retard is allowed, being a troll should be allowed. Half the time when I see someone get cited or banned for trolling, the person on the receiving end deserves it. Second, if your intent was to be funny in those emails, you failed - miserably. I didn't even crack a smile. And that's bad, because I'm easily amused. If you're going to be an asshole, be an asshole and be good at it. If you're going to be funny, be funny and be good at it. You failed to do either. Conclusion: you fucking suck at trolling. Leave it to the professionals.

Two quick points. First, if being a fucking retard is allowed, being a troll should be allowed. Half the time when I see someone get cited or banned for trolling, the person on the receiving end deserves it. Second, if your intent was to be funny in those emails, you failed - miserably. I didn't even crack a smile. And that's bad, because I'm easily amused. If you're going to be an asshole, be an asshole and be good at it. If you're going to be funny, be funny and be good at it. You failed to do either. Conclusion: you fucking suck at trolling. Leave it to the professionals.
Where the hell have you been? We've needed you here to clean up shit like this.

I don't think this is a serious case of criminal impersonation. My French teacher said that she had my school's police officer and vice principal and principal on the issue. Along with her computer whiz son.

I imagine it wouldn't take them all that long to discover the perpetrator of the act if they were really focused on it. You'd just have to look at the ISP logs of the email, contact the ISP, and they would provide you with the IP and the owner of said IP, right?

Perhaps she was bluffing and tried to scare the troll into stopping (which worked, actually; never taking that risk again.)

Where the hell have you been? We've needed you here to clean up shit like this.

I dunno, around. Lots of work this year, checked out the forums a few times, posted once about how I avoided being hit by an elderly Asian lady and got banned for a few days, which was fun. Other than that there hasn't really been much to argue about on here that I haven't argued about 10 times already. Find me somethin'. :D

I've actually been messing with my nation, too, and I've gotten it to be pretty good.

Yeah, dubass! You committed fraud, and you're going to be charged with one count of the crime for EACH student you falsely misrepresented yourself as.
You can also be charged with seperate counts of fraud for each email you sent posing as them.
How many of these emails have you sent? Are you aware of the maximum penalty allowed by law in your state for each and every count?

Don't forget about harrasment. Do you have money if you're also taken to civil court for harrasment, defamation and fraud?

I hope you have a damn good lawyer, or a really loose asshole. Either way, if you're busted it'll probably hurt.

Yeah, dubass! You committed fraud, and you're going to be charged with one count of the crime for EACH student you falsely misrepresented yourself as.
How many of these emails have you sent? Are you aware of the maximum penalty allowed by law in your state for each and every count?
Do you have money if you're also taken to civil court for defamation and fraud?

I hope you have a damn good lawyer, or a really loose asshole. Either way, if you're busted it'll probably hurt.

Well, I misspoke, I used the same name for each of the three emails.

However, I'm skeptical because I know the kid who's name I used and yet he didn't mention anything about being interogated today (which I would expect if this case were being taken seriously; the emails carrying his name and all). Also, if the case were being taken seriously, would they not have found me by now?

PS: I have a very loose asshole and I am perfectly capable (and willing) of submitting to Bubba.

Depending ont he email service you used to create the fals emails and what securit you used (firewalls and anonymizers and the like) tracking you could be as easy as sending three properly phrased emails to the proper addresses (Email ISP, Your ISP, and then the local administrator for your ISP, thats if they wanted an adress, a name would only take the first two), or as hard as about two hours of work for a decent FBI internet fraud/harrasment (or whatever they call the 'net force' these days) agent.
Unless your more of the institutionally paranoid type and have top of the line stuff that could take as long as a week to track down.

Laws you've broken: Pretty much all been mentioned here, Criminal impersonation, Harrasment, mischief, possibly falseley representing yourself, braking some of the new spam laws.
You could be looking at some major fines and depending on how the affected parties proceed and how good their lawyers are compared to yours possibly some severe restriction on your 'net priviledges.

Yeah, dubass! You committed fraud, and you're going to be charged with one count of the crime for EACH student you falsely misrepresented yourself as.
You can also be charged with seperate counts of fraud for each email you sent posing as them.
How many of these emails have you sent? Are you aware of the maximum penalty allowed by law in your state for each and every count?

Don't forget about harrasment. Do you have money if you're also taken to civil court for harrasment, defamation and fraud?

I hope you have a damn good lawyer, or a really loose asshole. Either way, if you're busted it'll probably hurt.

See, this guy's done a good job here at being funny and being an asshole, even if he can't spell dumbass... or separate... or harassment...

See, this guy's done a good job here at being funny and being an asshole, even if he can't spell dumbass... or separate... or harassment...
There, that's someone to learn from. :p

Two hours? I've only a cheap modem and router. My teacher mentioned this 2nd period (around 9:00 AM); it's now 10:23 PM. I'm thinking bluff. I suppose I'll see what happens in a week.

Would this kind of thing warrant FBI involvement?

See, this guy's done a good job here at being funny and being an asshole, even if he can't spell dumbass... or separate... or harassment...
Oh noeeeees, I think I've just been harassed by the typonazi!
I'm hideous.... Don't look at me!

There, that's someone to learn from. :p

But of course, if anyone on this forum is my hero, it's Eichen. :)

Two hours? I've only a cheap modem and router. My teacher mentioned this 2nd period (around 9:00 AM); it's now 10:23 PM. I'm thinking bluff. I suppose I'll see what happens in a week.

Would this kind of thing warrant FBI involvement?
No, but...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Dhs_seal.jpg

Oh noeeeees, I think I've just been harassed by the typonazi!
I'm hideous.... Don't look at me!

Heh, sorry. Seriously, though: dubass, okay, typo, the m didn't work; seperate, okay, brainfart, I've done it; but you spelled harassment wrong twice within fourteen words. Come on, now. Besides, any good troll understands that it is crucial to at least spell properly when bashing others. *shakes head in disappointment*

:) Maybe I'll get sent to Guantanomo Bay!

:) Maybe I'll get sent to Guantanomo Bay!
I hope you like sodomy and confinement.

Two hours? I've only a cheap modem and router. My teacher mentioned this 2nd period (around 9:00 AM); it's now 10:23 PM. I'm thinking bluff. I suppose I'll see what happens in a week.

Would this kind of thing warrant FBI involvement?

if the school was really worried about it they would have found you by now, my best guess is that you will get supended mayby expelled if you school is lame like that, you will mostlike ly end up doing lots of comunity service and you will lose you privledge to use the school computer lab.
the FBI has better things to do than track down high school pranksters, what you did does not threatin national security so dont worry.

if they ask if it was you fess up and tell the truth they will probly be nice about the punishment that you receve than if you have to track you down
hope it helps:) and good luck

EDIT: IMHO if you school is smart they will let you get away with it,

Heh, sorry. Seriously, though: dubass, okay, typo, the m didn't work; seperate, okay, brainfart, I've done it; but you spelled harassment wrong twice within fourteen words. Come on, now. Besides, any good troll understands that it is crucial to at least spell properly when bashing others. *shakes head in disappointment*
Provided the spelling errors are consistent, it could be forgiven, if only to a limited extent. Spelleng the same word with two different incorrect speelings really hurts the eyes, though. Most unpleasant.

Provided the spelling errors are consistent, it could be forgiven, if only to a limited extent. Spelleng the same word with two different incorrect speelings really hurts the eyes, though. Most unpleasant.
*nods*

Heh, sorry. Seriously, though: dubass, okay, typo, the m didn't work; seperate, okay, brainfart, I've done it; but you spelled harassment wrong twice within fourteen words. Come on, now. Besides, any good troll understands that it is crucial to at least spell properly when bashing others. *shakes head in disappointment*
I concede that I abused language itself by butchering harassment. Inexcusable, whatever level of marijuana intoxication I've managed to achieve.
But I take offense at your insinuation that I'm a troll.

Sir, that could be easily be considered as flagrantly flaming the trolls.

I'm pretty sure that this thread is illegal on some level or other...

Pah. First of all, the kid won't care. It's probably funny to him (and it's obviously not him). Second of all, you might be kicked out of the Honor society. Big whoop. If you care, deal with it. Beg. Teachers love that. Third of all, if your a minor, no time in the federal pen. If there even is anything they can and will nail you on, you'll get probation (if it's your first offense).

Honestly kiddos, play nice.

Well, I'm going to take a chance and guess the police aren't really involved. However, I don't doubt that her son will try to help somehow.

What kinds of skills would someone need to uncover my IP/ISP/etc. through an email? I imagine it wouldn't be very hard...

Well, I'm going to take a chance and guess the police aren't really involved. However, I don't doubt that her son will try to help somehow.

What kinds of skills would someone need to uncover my IP/ISP/etc. through an email? I imagine it wouldn't be very hard...

if the emails were sent throught a school computer, the comp lab admin just looks at the internet log thing
you can also "ping" computers to find out where they are- to do this you need the IP adress

if you are really worried unplug your comp from the internet

i dont get why every one is fliping out about the emails you sent

I think you're just a wanker.

You probably should crawl into a hole and start praying, if you believe it will help that is...

If it was a bluff, it worked. My conscious is eating me alive right now. Every time the phone rings I think it's going to be either the police or the school. I look out my window every time a car door slams, expecting it to be a patrol car ready to take me away. I'm expecting my internet to cut off soon; my ISP finding out who sent the emails and shutting me down.

I guess I'm just not capable of a life of crime.

grow up.

Okay.

If it was a bluff, it worked. My conscious is eating me alive right now. Every time the phone rings I think it's going to be either the police or the school. I look out my window every time a car door slams, expecting it to be a patrol car ready to take me away. I'm expecting my internet to cut off soon; my ISP finding out who sent the emails and shutting me down.

I guess I'm just not capable of a life of crime.
if your conscious really is eating you alive right now maby you should call your french teacher and fess up.......you probly will be quite glad if you do:)

Yes, you can be traced. No, your school won't bother, unless they're easy to piss off. More than lightly your ISP will just kick you.

Does anyone else think the thread starter is a puppet of Serapindal?

I would call her, but it's too much trouble. I'll take my chances avoiding getting caught.

I did however, send an email to the leader acting like I wasn't in the FHS and that it was just a huge prank and a cry for attention and I begged for forgiveness and told her about how its been eating at my mind.

That's definitely done a great deal to ease my stress.

You know you did a mistake by posting here about it. We could track you down from here and report you I am to lazy but someone else might just want to do it.

... as if we give a fuck about spamming... if some1 is stupid enough to meet the police bcz some1 spammed him or bcz some1 sent him a mail saying that hes an idiot well maybe hes really an idiot xD you just delete the email or you send him back the email 1 million time or if youre good at comp you can try to send him a virus xD

... as if we give a **** about spamming... if some1 is stupid enough to meet the police bcz some1 spammed him or bcz some1 sent him a mail saying that hes an idiot well maybe hes really an idiot xD you just delete the email or you send him back the email 1 million time or if youre good at comp you can try to send him a virus xD

You should probably just kill yourself. Now. Preferably by hanging yourself using computer cables.

In all serious, I don't think you'll get in much trouble for this, even though I wish you would.

well u were being quite bubbish, and using fake name is against the law. doubt nething will b done

I can sum up my thoughts on this is four words.

Definitely assholish of you to go messing around in a mail group like that.

Doubtful they will do anything about it (unless the son is uber intelligent and the teacher just as vindictive)

Disturbing how you say you are ready and willing to "submit to Bubba" even though you aren't even out of high school yet.

Disgusting how you claim to be "eaten up with guilt" but refuse to actually take responsibility for your actions.

Have a nice life.

Oh and make sure that when you decide to play this game of yours again, (And we all know you will eventually decide to play it again.) you don't make the mistake of choosing a mailing list that belongs to a group who actually knows anything about computers.

It appears that my email begging for forgiveness worked. I shall soon see on Monday, what will happen.

It appears that my email begging for forgiveness worked. I shall soon see on Monday, what will happen.

Forgiveness should be given ONLY to people who are TRULY REPENTANT...meaning they will never be an assholic troll ever again. If you are not going to pledge to that, then you don't deserve forgiveness, and I hope you don't get it, either.

Forgiveness should be given ONLY to people who are TRULY REPENTANT...meaning they will never be an assholic troll ever again. If you are not going to pledge to that, then you don't deserve forgiveness, and I hope you don't get it, either.
We could always find out to whom he sent the emails and show them this thread.

Piekrom']<snip>
PS: I do not realy i am joking aout his doom. Criminal impersonation is a federal offence
No it isn't, it isn't even necesarily a felony