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http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/quiz/neoconQuiz.html

The nominal name of this quiz is "Are you a Neocon?", but it's really more of a foreign policy classification/placement.

See where you stand.


Based on your answers, you are most likely a realist.

Realists…

* Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
* Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
* Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations
* Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
* Weigh the political costs of foreign action
* Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest

Historical realist: President Dwight D. Eisenhower
Modern realist: Secretary of State Colin Powell

(Yes this has been posted before, but not in quite some time. And yes, it's US based. Sorry non-US folks. Feel free to take it.)

Wow. Youve made a lot of threads today

Isolationist
The term isolationist is most often used negatively; few people who share its beliefs use it to describe their own foreign policy perspective. They believe in "America first." For them, national sovereignty trumps international relations. Many unions, libertarians, and anti-globalization protesters share isolationist tenets.
Isolationists…

* Are wary of US involvement in the United Nations
* Oppose international law, alliances, and agreements
* Believe the US should not act as a global cop
* Support trade practices that protect American workers
* Oppose liberal immigration
* Oppose American imperialism
* Desire to preserve what they see as America's national identity and character

Historical isolationist: President Calvin Coolidge
Modern isolationist: Author/Commentator Pat Buchanan
^I agreed with the results up tothe points on liberal immigration and that Pat Buchanan is an islationist. I don't see a conflict between secure borders and free immigration (granted you're not a terrorist, etc). Pat Buchanan is NOT isolationist - that's the same guy who said we should go into Venezuela and "take Chavez out" - what an idiot.

Realist
Realists…

* Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
* Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
* Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations
* Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
* Weigh the political costs of foreign action
* Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest

Historical realist: President Dwight D. Eisenhower
Modern realist: Secretary of State Colin Powell

So stop calling me a neocon...

Realist. Cool.

Based on your answers, you are most likely a liberal.

Liberal

Liberals…

* Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy

* Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.

* Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions

* Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises

* Oppose American imperialism

* Support international law, alliances, and agreements

* Encourage US participation in the UN

* Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor

Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson
Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter



I pretty much agree with all of that...

Liberal. However, I reject the idea that "...the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises."

Neoconservative

Neoconservatives…

Want the US to be the world's unchallenged superpower
Share unwavering support for Israel
Support American unilateral action
Support preemptive strikes to remove perceived threats to US security
Promote the development of an American empire
Equate American power with the potential for world peace
Seek to democratize the Arab world
Push regime change in states deemed threats to the US or its allies
Historical neoconservative: President Teddy Roosevelt

Modern neoconservative: President Ronald Reagan

Me? a neocon? Weird.

Isolationist....

Sure.

Me? a neocon? Weird.

Interesting. I'm a 'realist'.

I don't see anyone on the forum calling you a neocon...

I am a Realist

Realists…

Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations
Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
Weigh the political costs of foreign action
Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest

Historical realist: President Dwight D. Eisenhower
Modern realist: Secretary of State Colin Powell

Me? a neocon? Weird.
The unwavering support for Israel must have done it.

Realist
Realists…

* Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
* Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
* Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations
* Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
* Weigh the political costs of foreign action
* Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest

Historical realist: President Dwight D. Eisenhower
Modern realist: Secretary of State Colin Powell

Meh.. k

Liberal

Liberals…

Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
Oppose American imperialism
Support international law, alliances, and agreements
Encourage US participation in the UN
Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor
Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson

Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter

Funny, it's missing the "bleeding heart" my dad always preceeds Liberal with...I almost didn't know there was another kind ;)

Realist. Much like another great Kansan, Dwight Eisenhower.

Neoconservatives…

Want the US to be the world's unchallenged superpower
Share unwavering support for Israel
Support American unilateral action
Support preemptive strikes to remove perceived threats to US security
Promote the development of an American empire
Equate American power with the potential for world peace
Seek to democratize the Arab world
Push regime change in states deemed threats to the US or its allies
Historical neoconservative: President Teddy Roosevelt

Modern neoconservative: President Ronald Reagan

i got that, but accidentally clicked Isolationist on the poll :(

Based on your answers, you are most likely a realist. Read below to learn more about each foreign policy perspective.

Realist

Realists…

Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations
Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
Weigh the political costs of foreign action
Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest
Historical realist: President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Modern realist: Secretary of State Colin Powell

I'm definitely an isolationist. My idea of security from foreign aggressors is what is essentially "mutually assured destruction". I would have much rather that the U.S. completely withdraws its troops from the world (with exceptions to our various embassies worldwide), and instead of spending money on foreign entanglements, establish a nuclear defense system. Our goal should be simply defense. Furthermore we need to stop funding to international bodies (ie the UN), and maintain a loose contract with our allies when it comes to collective security and possible political coercion towards countries like Iran and North Korea. We need to stop funding Israel and start being a neutral party in the conflict.

So basically, our foreign policy should be focused on purely defense. No "defensive-offensive" crap (such as Vietnam, Iraq, etc.). Military action should be a clear act of war (declared by congress). That hasn't happened since WWII the last justifiable military action IMO.

So basically, our foreign policy should be focused on purely defense. No "defensive-offensive" crap (such as Vietnam, Iraq, etc.). Military action should be a clear act of war (declared by congress). That hasn't happened since WWII the last justifiable military action IMO.

By that logic, the US would not have entered WW I, unless you count the Lusitania as sufficient to be a "clear act of war".

Heck, I'm sure that you could call it an honest mistake, and have everyone stay home.

Pat Buchanan is NOT isolationist - that's the same guy who said we should go into Venezuela and "take Chavez out" - what an idiot.

That was Pat Robertson: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4177664.stm

Liberal. Who would have thunk it?

Liberal

Liberals…

Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
Oppose American imperialism
Support international law, alliances, and agreements
Encourage US participation in the UN
Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor
Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson

Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter

http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/quiz/neoconQuiz.html

The nominal name of this quiz is "Are you a Neocon?", but it's really more of a foreign policy classification/placement.

(Yes this has been posted before, but not in quite some time. And yes, it's US based. Sorry non-US folks. Feel free to take it.)
I would work for General Powell if he would run for President, but he's apparently decided it's not for him. Sigh. :(

By that logic, the US would not have entered WW I, unless you count the Lusitania as sufficient to be a "clear act of war".

Heck, I'm sure that you could call it an honest mistake, and have everyone stay home.

Correct. If you haven't noticed, WWI was a disaster. Millions of civilians and combatants were killed, often over small areas of land in trench warfare. Furthermore, it lead to an even more deadly WWII, which saw the rise of totalitarianism, fascism and anti-semitism. In short, it solved nothing. WWII differed because it was a direct threat to U.S. sovereignity (bombing of Pearl Harbor).

The circumstances of the attack on the Lusitania is still largely up to speculation. Some say it was a ploy to get the U.S. into the war, others claim that it was actually carrying munitions to use against Germany, and therefore was a military target. Regardless, it is not a valid reason to enter into a world war where millions of people are going to die. It reminds me remarkably of the USS Maddox incident which was another event that triggered a justification for joining the war effort. However, we were already well involved in the conflict with our "military-advisors". Just look how well Vietnam ended...

Oh, and one more thing. I think it is a CRIME that the president effectively has the ability to provoke a country into a war situation. I mean, who honestly thinks that the Maddox incident wasn't simply an attempt to justify further military action?

Well, I guess I stand alone in my results...

My results. I tend to agree. ( The first post was a mistake )


Realist

Realists…

Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations
Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
Weigh the political costs of foreign action
Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest

Historical realist: President Dwight D. Eisenhower
Modern realist: Secretary of State Colin Powell

Neocon quiz results
Realist

Historical realist: President Dwight D. Eisenhower
Modern realist: Secretary of State Colin Powell
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I can live with that.

That was Pat Robertson: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4177664.stm
Arrrrgh, tooo many 'Patricks!' :headbang:

What did I score as?
Other - Liberal

Since I'm both a US citizen and a German citizen, I don't feel comfortable with choosing either US or non-US, since my viewpoint is distinctly different from either.

I scored realist on the test, but that's really not the way I would best be categorized. I'm going to put together a more accurate one constituted by copying and pasting the ones I agree with together.

The US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor
Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion
Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
Weigh the political costs of foreign action
Want the US to be the world's unchallenged superpower
Share unwavering support for Israel
Support American unilateral action for humanitarian purposes
Seek to democratize the Arab world

(They got one thing right - I agree with nothing in the Isolationist description)

Shock horror... non US, so am wary of the definition. I wouldn't really be classified that much of a Liberal at home. As its a US orientated quiz (questions wise) it was kinda harde to pick answers but I gave it me best shot :p
Liberal
Liberals…
Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
Oppose American imperialism
Support international law, alliances, and agreements
Encourage US participation in the UN
Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor
Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson
Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter

I wouldn't really be classified that much of a Liberal at home.You got that right...;)

I accidentally clicked Isolationist in the poll, having (stupidly) read the results incorrectly. According to the test I am, in fact, a liberal.

Liberal. However, I reject the idea that "...the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises."

I was going to say the exact same thing. :)

Liberal

Liberals…
Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
Oppose American imperialism
Support international law, alliances, and agreements
Encourage US participation in the UN
Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor
Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson
Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter

Gee...I'm so surprised. :D

I scored realist on the test, but that's really not the way I would best be categorized. I'm going to put together a more accurate one constituted by copying and pasting the ones I agree with together.

The US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor
Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion
Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
Weigh the political costs of foreign action
Want the US to be the world's unchallenged superpower
Share unwavering support for Israel
Support American unilateral action for humanitarian purposes
Seek to democratize the Arab world

(They got one thing right - I agree with nothing in the Isolationist description)
I agree as well. I also got realist but your list is more in line with my beliefs. I agree with everything there except the Israel part. I am steadfast in my support for Israel's right to exist, but I also think that the Palestinians need to get an country of their own. If that means a few land concessions then so be it.

I got isolationist but I don’t support laws that “protect” the US worker and I’m for uber-liberal immigration.

I got isolationist but I don’t support laws that “protect” the US worker and I’m for uber-liberal immigration.

Same here. The test was very restricting.

I agree as well. I also got realist but your list is more in line with my beliefs. I agree with everything there except the Israel part. I am steadfast in my support for Israel's right to exist, but I also think that the Palestinians need to get an country of their own. If that means a few land concessions then so be it.
You're right, when I meant unconditional, I meant right to exist and aid. I agree that territorial concessions need to be made.

Neocon.

SEMPER FI! OOHRAH! TAKE NO PRISONERS- KILL 'EM ALL AND LET GOD SORT 'EM OUT! ...er, I'm not really surprised:D

Neoconservative and a proud patriot.