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GOP backs off of ANWR

Unabashed Greed
10-11-2005, 05:12
Did this past election really scare the repos that much??

From Reuters...

By Richard Cowan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican leaders in the U.S. House of Representatives abandoned, at least temporarily, a drive to open Alaska's National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling after concluding on Wednesday the initiative was threatening passage of a huge bill to cut spending.

"ANWR and OCS will be out" of the legislation, said House Budget Committee Chairman Jim Nussle, an Iowa Republican.

Besides the Alaska oil drilling initiative, the House spending-reduction bill had also called for opening outer-continental shelf, or offshore areas, to oil and gas drilling.

The proposals had drawn opposition from Democrats and two dozen or so Republicans in the House.

The Senate approved the controversial ANWR proposal last week when it passed $35 billion in spending cuts over five years. That measure estimates the U.S. government would raise about $2.4 billion in leasing fees if industry was allowed to develop the refuge's 10.4 billion barrels of crude.

Environmentalists have opposed expanding oil drilling to the sensitive area in Alaska and some Florida congressmen have worked to kill the offshore oil and gas drilling plan. Both project

s have been a high priority of U.S. oil companies.

With a more ambitious, $54 billion spending-reduction bill getting bogged down in the House, Republican leaders jettisoned the oil drilling plans for now.

Negotiations on the budget bill were continuing in the House.

Even without those two energy initiatives, the fate of the budget bill was uncertain, as no House Democrats were expected to vote for it and several moderate Republicans might defy their leaders.

The oil and gas drilling legislation is not dead as supporters are hoping for one more chance this year to win passage.

If the spending-reduction bill passes the House, possibly as early as Thursday, the two chambers of Congress would appoint negotiators to work out differences between the bills.

Senate Republicans could insist the ANWR drilling proposal be reinserted into the House bill, forcing a vote by the full House of Representatives.
Potaria
10-11-2005, 05:13
...And the (attemped) Bush empire falls deeper into the abyss.
Upitatanium
10-11-2005, 05:20
Politics is moving from :headbang: to :eek: at an interesting pace.

What surprises await us next.
Unabashed Greed
10-11-2005, 05:28
I think the biggest thing is the lack of "political capitol" that the reds have lately. IMO, people are tired of being scared into being told what to do.
The Nazz
10-11-2005, 05:34
Hell, this morning on Imus, Rep. Hayworth of AZ, who's as wingnutty as they come, when asked if he would want Bush coming to Arizona to cut commercials for him if he were up for re-election, said "In a word, no. Not at this time." (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/11/09.html#a5780)

Bush has, if anything, reverse coattails right now.
Unabashed Greed
10-11-2005, 05:45
Hell, this morning on Imus, Rep. Hayworth of AZ, who's as wingnutty as they come, when asked if he would want Bush coming to Arizona to cut commercials for him if he were up for re-election, said "In a word, no. Not at this time." (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/11/09.html#a5780)

Bush has, if anything, reverse coattails right now.

The funny part about that is the gloating that went on after the second theft (i.e. 2004). The ensuing train-wreck is still finding defenders, sad as it may be. Repos are talking tough all over the web, but the ones in the know are getting scared, and this is only the first indication of things to come in '06 IMO
Solarlandus
10-11-2005, 05:57
*shrugs*

The same people who reject drilling in ANWR now will be on their hands and knees begging for it later. :)
Muravyets
10-11-2005, 06:03
The funny part about that is the gloating that went on after the second theft (i.e. 2004). The ensuing train-wreck is still finding defenders, sad as it may be. Repos are talking tough all over the web, but the ones in the know are getting scared, and this is only the first indication of things to come in '06 IMO
They all want to be big-time cutthroats, but they forget that when you hang out with cutthroats, somebody's throat is gonna get cut. Bush and Co can't get reelected. The Party is thinking of a future without them; each republican is thinking of his/her own career -- without them; and if getting that future and that career means abandoning the Bush agenda, then that's what they'll do. For now. It'll be a long time before I feel relaxed around here.
The Nazz
10-11-2005, 06:18
*shrugs*

The same people who reject drilling in ANWR now will be on their hands and knees begging for it later. :)
Don't count on it. We're not the ones driving Hummers to compensate for the small size of our penises. We're hung enough to drive Hyundais. :D
Solarlandus
10-11-2005, 06:45
Don't count on it. We're not the ones driving Hummers to compensate for the small size of our penises. We're hung enough to drive Hyundais. :D

Uh, well if you date Hyundais instead of girls I can see why you would *need* to be. ^_^; :rolleyes: :p

That said, it's going to take more than being hung to fuel even a Hyunda so don't be *too* sure. And the nice thing about having cheaper gas is that it would let you get out more and interact with someone other than your Hyunda. ^_~
Unabashed Greed
10-11-2005, 06:47
Uh, well if you date Hyundais instead of girls I can see why you would *need* to be. ^_^; :rolleyes: :p

That said, it's going to take more than being hung to fuel even a Hyunda so don't be *too* sure. And the nice thing about having cheaper gas is that it would let you get out more and interact with someone other than your Hyunda. ^_~


There was a point in there somewhere... I think...
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
10-11-2005, 06:49
There was a point in there somewhere... I think...
Considering what he was replying to, I think he had just enough of a point.
Make a flippant comment, get a flippant response.
The Nazz
10-11-2005, 06:52
Uh, well if you date Hyundais instead of girls I can see why you would *need* to be. ^_^; :rolleyes: :p

That said, it's going to take more than being hung to fuel even a Hyunda so don't be *too* sure. And the nice thing about having cheaper gas is that it would let you get out more and interact with someone other than your Hyunda. ^_~
Oh, don't you worry about me--I'm the Great Swinging Nazz, after all. I've got more than enough to satisfy both my girlfriend and your sweet ass.

Besides, have you ever considered that the longer we keep people from drilling in ANWR, the longer that very limited oil supply will last, and therefore, in a tighter market, the more valuable it becomes? Didn't think so, because your types are shortsighted.

I'll let you in on another little secret--after Hurricane Wilma went through my neighborhood and all the idiots driving their Hummers and their Expeditions were up shit creek because the few gas stations that were open were limiting purchases to $20 which was just about enough gas for them to get to the station in the first place, I was cruising past in my little Hyundai, laughing at them. Why? Because I think long-term. You ought to try it sometime--it's good for the soul.
Unabashed Greed
10-11-2005, 06:54
Considering what he was replying to, I think he had just enough of a point.
Make a flippant comment, get a flippant response.

And you would be one to understand flippance. I'm coming to think that "flip" is, in fact, your middle name... H N "Flip" Fiddlebottoms VIII.... It does kinda roll off the tounge.

(was that "flippant" enough?)

In any case, how does that pretain to ANWR?
Muravyets
10-11-2005, 07:12
Uh, well if you date Hyundais instead of girls I can see why you would *need* to be. ^_^; :rolleyes: :p

That said, it's going to take more than being hung to fuel even a Hyunda so don't be *too* sure. And the nice thing about having cheaper gas is that it would let you get out more and interact with someone other than your Hyunda. ^_~
Wait, I'm confused. Are you saying that a big penis is necessary for Hyundai driving, or are you saying that people who drive Hummers don't need big penises?

I don't drive, so I'm not familiar enough with these cars to know how penis size affects driving, but, as a woman, I kinda think I'm going with the dude in the Hyundai.