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Jordan has been hit with multiple terrorist attacks.

The Hotels hit were:

Hyatt
Radisson
Days In

18 are confirmed dead

More on this to come.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/11/09/jordan.blasts.ap/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175079,00.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9979747/

Jordann? Is that close to Irraqq?

Jordann? Is that close to Irraqq?
Yes

And Islamic Fascism strikes again!

Jordann? Is that close to Irraqq?
No. However, it is close to Iraqq with one R.

According to Petra (Jordan News Agency) is now reporting that these are 3 suicide bombers.

This is, of course, unconfirmed.

18 are still confirmed dead.

My thoughts and prayers go out to Jordan and to the victims.

No. However, it is close to Iraqq with one R.
Are you kidding me?
Let me explain this, since it eluded you: the first version of the original post's title spelled Jordan as "Jordann".
BTW: It is not spelled "Iraqq", man. It's either Iraq or Irak.

Are you kidding me?
Let me explain this, since it eluded you: the first version of the original post's title spelled Jordan as "Jordann".
BTW: It is not spelled "Iraqq", man. It's either Iraq or Irak.

By God, what English professor stuck a dictionary up your ass!

He was being sarcastic. After all, look who said it.

Are you kidding me?
Let me explain this, since it eluded you: the first version of the original post's title spelled Jordan as "Jordann".
BTW: It is not spelled "Iraqq", man. It's either Iraq or Irak.
Don't worry...you just got a taste of Czardas' particular brand of humour:D *high five Czardy!*

By God, what English professor stuck a dictionary up your ass!

He was being sarcastic. After all, look who said it.
Exactly, someone needs to read up on the 3rd Annual NationStates Who's Who guide. I'm listed under "Popular Generalites" (p. 359 to be exact) under the heading "C".

Don't worry...you just got a taste of Czardas' particular brand of humour:D *high five Czardy!**returns high five*

Yeah, I'm like that. Someone has been away for too long, methinks. ;)

By God, what English professor stuck a dictionary up your ass!

He was being sarcastic. After all, look who said it.
Czardas, can you ever forgive me?

Czardas, can you ever forgive me?
Of course, I forgive. Must not have recognized me or something... :p

Talk about the attacks people and not what poster was being sarcastic.

Wait, NS has a Who's Who guide!?

Why was I not informed!

*prepares to painfully probe whomever has TSI's copy*

Wait, NS has a Who's Who guide!?

Why was I not informed!

*prepares to painfully probe whomever has TSI's copy*
You're in it too, under the "Annoying Posters" section in the back.

It was compiled by me, Neo Kervoskia, and The Noble Men a while back. I lost the link, it isn't sold in any bookstores, and yes, everyone has a copy except you. ;)

And let's end the hijacking, like now, ok?

Getting back to the topic...

Why would the Islamo-Fascists target Jordan? You would think most of their middle eastern resources are tied up in Iraq.

The death toll is up to 23 according to Reuters.

Getting back to the topic...

Why would the Islamo-Fascists target Jordan? You would think most of their middle eastern resources are tied up in Iraq.

Careful, someone will step in here and say, 'Jordan was blown up and it's Bush's fault".

Honestly, why antaganize another arab nation? They attacked one that was relitively neutral. From a strategic sense, it makes none.

Honestly, why antaganize another arab nation? They attacked one that was relitively neutral. From a strategic sense, it makes none.

Those hotels often have High ranking Americans in them and are stayed in by Americans. That was why they were hit.

Those hotels often have High ranking Americans in them and are stayed in by Americans. That was why they were hit.

But you risk antagonizing a neutral government for the benifit of maybe getting an american or two?

Perhaps I'm thinking to logically for them, but it does not make strategic sense to me.

Honestly, why antaganize another arab nation? They attacked one that was relitively neutral. From a strategic sense, it makes none.
They don't care about antagonizing the governments of Arab nations. They want to separate those governments from western support and topple them in order to replace them with Islamic extremists and use the power and wealth of the Arab world to conquer more lands and people for their brand of Islam.

The Death toll has gone up again.

It is now at 53 with scores injuried. :(

57 Dead over 100+ injured.

A new number placed the injured at 300.

But you risk antagonizing a neutral government for the benifit of maybe getting an american or two?

Perhaps I'm thinking to logically for them, but it does not make strategic sense to me.
Jordanian government is not seen as "neutral" by the Islamists because it is secular (in fact, probably the most stable of the remaining secular Arab regimes) and because Jordan is an American ally.

Make no mistake, the attack's true target was not the Western tourists, but Jordan itself. It's an attempt to ignite a rise of Islamist sentiment within Jordan and destabilize the rule of king Abdullah.

Jordanian government is not seen as "neutral" by the Islamists because it is secular (in fact, probably the most stable of the remaining secular Arab regimes) and because Jordan is an American ally.

Make no mistake, the attack's true target was not the Western tourists, but Jordan itself. It's an attempt to ignite a rise of Islamist sentiment within Jordan and destabilize the rule of king Abdullah.

Which won't occur. These people oppose Zarqawi and his lot and this attack does nothing to raising support. In fact, just the opposite.

*sigh*

<shakes his head and walks away>

Jordan is also one of the few Arab nations with normalized relations with Israel. In fact, Israel and Jordan trade quite a bit.

My prayers go out to my Jordanian kinsmen (I have ancestors from there). And to the investigators: Good hunting!

Which won't occur. These people oppose Zarqawi and his lot and this attack does nothing to raising support. In fact, just the opposite.
Don't be so sure. Like in many Arab states today, the political opposition to the existing regime is predominantly Islamist, and I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a takeover. The attacks will generate some resentment, yes, but they will also be spun as the fault of the Jordanian government for allying themselves with the US and for having a peace treaty with Israel- or simply for not being Islamic enough.

or simply for not being Islamic enough.

They're jealous of the Jordanian Queen ...

http://www.hcandersen2005.net/files/HCAambassadorer/Dronning%20Rania_web.jpg

Meeeow!

They're jealous of the Jordanian Queen ...

http://www.hcandersen2005.net/files/HCAambassadorer/Dronning%20Rania_web.jpg

Meeeow!
Damn right. Probably the most beautiful first lady in the world right now.

Don't be so sure. Like in many Arab states today, the political opposition to the existing regime is predominantly Islamist, and I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a takeover. The attacks will generate some resentment, yes, but they will also be spun as the fault of the Jordanian government for allying themselves with the US and for having a peace treaty with Israel- or simply for not being Islamic enough.
I'm sure they'll try to spin it that way...but I don't think they'll succeed.

Simple people don't like being blown up, and they're not necessarily stupid enough to ignore the fact that most if not all casualties were actually Jordanians. The Iraqis afterall don't like being blown up either, and no one joins the "Resistance" there because they lost family or something in a terrorist attack (to my knowledge).

In other news (and I'm surprised no one's made a thread about it yet), Jemaah Islamiyah's top bomb maker and bomb making teacher is dead...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4423814.stm

Why would the Islamo-Fascists target Jordan?

Jordan, for those who don't know the difference between various Middle-Eastern countries, is one of the most progressive countries in the region.

My thoughts go to the victims and their families, obviously. :(

Don't be so sure. Like in many Arab states today, the political opposition to the existing regime is predominantly Islamist, and I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a takeover.

In the case of Jordan however, the situation is a tad different. They do not support the terrorists. Now the terrorists have given them another reason not too.

The attacks will generate some resentment, yes, but they will also be spun as the fault of the Jordanian government for allying themselves with the US and for having a peace treaty with Israel- or simply for not being Islamic enough.

I don't see that happening. Al Qaeda will try but Jordan don't consider the terrorists to be Muslim.

56 Dead, 115 wounded.

:(

I'm sure they'll try to spin it that way...but I don't think they'll succeed.

Simple people don't like being blown up, and they're not necessarily stupid enough to ignore the fact that most if not all casualties were actually Jordanians. The Iraqis afterall don't like being blown up either, and no one joins the "Resistance" there because they lost family or something in a terrorist attack (to my knowledge).
And yet there exists a fair bit of support for the "resistance", despite the fact that they blow up ordinary Iraqis day after day.

I'm reading about the reactions in Jordan. There is a lot of fear that the attacks will drive away the tourists and induce an economic downfall, which for the terrorists would already be an achievement.

On the other hand, there is a lot of rage against Al-Qaeda and Zarkawi, and it does appear that support for the king has increased rather than fallen. The blame is being directed at the Iraqi refugees though, by the logic of "it couldn't possibly be Jordanians doing that) and it hardly contributes to Jordan's internal stability.


In other news (and I'm surprised no one's made a thread about it yet), Jemaah Islamiyah's top bomb maker and bomb making teacher is dead...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4423814.stm
The Bali bombmaker? Hell yeah, that's a damn good piece of news.:D

They're jealous of the Jordanian Queen ...

http://www.hcandersen2005.net/files/HCAambassadorer/Dronning%20Rania_web.jpg

Meeeow!
It's good to be the King...

Damn right. Probably the most beautiful first lady in the world right now.and here is the husband...

http://www.dion.nu/weblog/img/king_abdullah.jpg

There were protest rallies against Zarqawi today in Jordan Chanting:

"Death to Zarqawi" and "Burn in hell Zarqawi"

Looks like Jordan is more united against Zarqawi now.

I support those Jordanian protestors 100%. What we have now is a question: If and when Zarqawi is captured, who gets to try him - Jordan or Iraq.

He has crippled Iraq, yet he is a traitor to Jordan.

Perhaps a dual court should try this terrorist/traitor. Jury will be half Iraqi, half Jordanian.

Perhaps a dual court should try this terrorist/traitor. Jury will be half Iraqi, half Jordanian.
Rest assured that it is unlikely that he would be taken alive. People like him have a tendency to blow themselves up rather than be captured.

And some people reckon he's been dead for months...
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/73570F02-EA07-492F-9E04-C080950DF180.htm

Aparently they wanted to let the US know that the "backyard camp for the Crusader army is now in the range of fire of the holy warriors"

Crusades? THEY ENDED 800 YEARS AGO!!!!!! GET OVER IT!!!! :headbang: