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Currently the USA has dominion over the internet, much to the irritation of other countries and the UN, but the question is. Who should have control over such a thing as the internet, and what on earth should be done in the future.

Currently the USA has dominion over the internet, much to the irritation of other countries and the UN, but the question is. Who should have control over such a thing as the internet, and what on earth should be done in the future.
Ok how does the USA government have direct controll over "the internet" ?

BTW my answer is none of the above ... we should go to geographical alotment of domain suffixes ... just like they are looking at doing with IPV6

Seeing as how we have more Internet Hosts (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2184rank.html) and more Internet Users (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2153rank.html) than any other nation, is it that unnatural that the US has realistic dominion over the internet?

Seeing as how we have more Internet Hosts (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2184rank.html) and more Internet Users (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2153rank.html) than any other nation, is it that unnatural that the US has realistic dominion over the internet?
Not to mention implementation of the DNS hiararchy

And when it comes down to it all they would have to do is design something simmilar to DNS to supercede it

Then get browsers/OS's to incorporate it

No current nation should control the internet, it should be a nation onto itself. Or at least be free.

I'd rather it be under the jurisdiction of an independant organisation. Maybe under the UN umbrella. Then it could have one of those chic acronym names that begin with UN.

UNIAA? UNIGO?

I'd rather it be under the jurisdiction of an independant organisation. Maybe under the UN umbrella. Then it could have one of those chic acronym names that begin with UN.

UNIAA? UNIGO?UNISEX :D

UNISEX :D

United Nations Internet Secret Entente for eXtra-Terrestrials?

None of the above.
I vote Myrth.
:p

The USA should controll it, the UN cannot be trusted with anything, especially not something as important to the world society and economy like the internet.

Currently the USA has dominion over the internet, much to the irritation of other countries and the UN, but the question is. Who should have control over such a thing as the internet, and what on earth should be done in the future.
That's not quite accurate. A US company controls who gets what domain name, but no one nation or organization controls the Internet, which is as it should be.

The USA should controll it, the UN cannot be trusted with anything, especially not something as important to the world society and economy like the internet.
That's an interesting point of view. Yes, I think it would be in everyone's interest if the US controlled the net :D

I'd rather it be under the jurisdiction of an independant organisation. Maybe under the UN umbrella. Then it could have one of those chic acronym names that begin with UN.

UNIAA? UNIGO?
Are you people talking about the phisical network or DNS?

That's an interesting point of view. Yes, I think it would be in everyone's interest if the US controlled the net :D

It's not like the US government goes and shuts down sites they don't agree with.

The government does not control it.

It's not like the US government goes and shuts down sites they don't agree with.

The government does not control it.
Oh. bummer. ;)

There is a little problem with the poll:
Icann controls the internet, but the US goverment controls Icann (that's the problem), so basically you have two entries that are one :p

The USA should controll it
... said an American. :D

what the hell is ICANN

That's not quite accurate. A US company controls who gets what domain name, but no one nation or organization controls the Internet, which is as it should be.
Yeah I dont think people understand this

And people keep throwing around "the internet" as if it is synonomous with "the web"
They are different people

NO one controlls the internet right now as the internet is made up of the PHISICAL ASPECT ... there are thousands of companies

Hell you could controll a portion yourself

The WEB is a different story ... the WEB utalizes DNS as a name lookup for webites

The web is logical
The Internet is phisical

The logical web operates over the phisical Internet
But just because most web traffic takes place over the Internet does not mean that all internet traffic consists of webtraffic

Are you people talking about the phisical network or DNS?

Who cares? I just want a cool new UN* acronym.

I FORGOT THE MYRTH OPTION !

This poll is ruined.

And yes the US does control the internet. Whilst they have held back exercising their power, the US equilivalant of the DTI has control and refuses to relinquish it.

And yes i mix the words web and internet because its too much trouble not too. But i didn't start this thread to be part of it, i started it to start healthy consideration of the topic.

The USA should controll it, the UN cannot be trusted with anything, especially not something as important to the world society and economy like the internet.

Were you bitten by Kofi Annan as a child?

And am I the only one who thinks Kofi Annan is one damn sexy beaurocrat?

Currently the USA has dominion over the internet, much to the irritation of other countries and the UN, but the question is. Who should have control over such a thing as the internet, and what on earth should be done in the future.

The USA does not have dominion over the internet as many would like to believe. The answer to your question is, "everybody" and "nobody". There are thousands of small groups and corporations that can make decisions that affect the internet, but the largest group of them all dwarfs those that would attempt to lay claim to it, and that is, Network Managers, of which there are millions . It is they, that decide daily on how things are run. They are the one who decide who's offensive site gets flamed off the server. Who's abusive email gets lost into oblivian never to be seen again and who's DNS entry is restored when the system looses it. The worst possible thing that could happen is for some sort of organized group of individuals, organizations, or a corporation to be given control over it.

I FORGOT THE MYRTH OPTION !

This poll is ruined.

And yes the US does control the internet. Whilst they have held back exercising their power, the US equilivalant of the DTI has control and refuses to relinquish it.

And yes i mix the words web and internet because its too much trouble not too. But i didn't start this thread to be part of it, i started it to start healthy consideration of the topic.
Wrong they controll the Web not the Internet
The Internet (like I posted) is the phisical implementation

The WEB is the system of web pages and web type traffic (usualy HTTP or FTP) (but also includes HTTPS FTPS & TFTP )
This is organized using URL's
URL's are organized and archived using the DNS hirarchy

A COMPANY controlls the root DNS server

This does not mean they controll the entire WEB
and they have NO controll over the "Internet" beyond their borders (and I could argue that it is the companies that have controll within the borders)

The USA does not have dominion over the internet as many would like to believe. The answer to your question is, "everybody" and "nobody". There are thousands of small groups and corporations that can make decisions that affect the internet, but the largest group of them all dwarfs those that would attempt to lay claim to it, and that is, Network Managers, of which there are millions . It is they, that decide daily on how things are run. They are the one who decide who's offensive site gets flamed off the server. Who's abusive email gets lost into oblivian never to be seen again and who's DNS entry is restored when the system looses it. The worst possible thing that could happen is for some sort of organized group of individuals, organizations, or a corporation to be given control over it.
Over the phisical implementation
Absolutly

If a rather large network decided to stop passing traffic of a certian type or from a certian person you would see massive internet outages and such

Because individual companies controll most of the internet

For example this case
http://news.com.com/Net+backbone+outage+fixed%2C+for+now/2100-1036_3-5891274.html?part=rss&tag=5891274&subj=news

I'm sorry. But the group that has the MAJOR control over the coding languages of the internet is the World Wide Web Consortium (or the W3C) and they are not located within the confines of the United Stares of America. If i remember, they are in Europe somewhere.

I'm sorry. But the group that has the MAJOR control over the coding languages of the internet is the World Wide Web Consortium (or the W3C) and they are not located within the confines of the United Stares of America. If i remember, they are in Europe somewhere.
Thats just code interpretation ... they dont really have controll over the Web itself just the languages used

Besides when is the last time MS or any of the other code generators followed W3C standards anyways lol

Who should control the internet ?NOBODY

The internet should not be under the control of any nation or organization.

It can't. It it was it wouldn't be.

Over the phisical implementation
Absolutly

If a rather large network decided to stop passing traffic of a certian type or from a certian person you would see massive internet outages and such

Because individual companies controll most of the internet

For example this case
http://news.com.com/Net+backbone+outage+fixed%2C+for+now/2100-1036_3-5891274.html?part=rss&tag=5891274&subj=news

Without a doubt there are those that are attempting to leverage their positon, however under the present system that leverage is limited in both time and scope. Ulitmately what Level 3 is attempting will fail. It would take a cartel and some people willing to risk very long prison sentences to pull this off successfully. Thanks very much for the link. I have a significant interest that works for Level 3. I must get the scoop first hand!

No single group.

Certain things (eg. Child pornography) need to be prevented, however, but independent organisations should be set up to deal with these and communicate with local law enforcement agencies. Otherwise, I do not trust any one group to abide by my personal ideal that all information should be freely accessible provided that it does not hurt anyone.