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Yet another frivelous lawsuit in my opinion. I guess this is one Republican that doesn't mind suing over stupid crap.

College Republican leader sues over gay 'kiss-in for justice'
Groups were protesting military at Univ. of Nevada-Reno
RENO, Nevada (AP) | Nov 8, 8:49 AM

A college Republican leader at the University of Nevada-Reno has gone to court over last week's campus "kiss-in for justice" protest against military recruiters.

In a complaint filed last Thursday in Washoe County District Court, group Vice-Chairman Matt Beiser accuses student protesters of intimidating and verbally abusing students trying to talk to recruiters at a UNR Career Fair.

The complaint against the queer student union and two other student groups seeks a temporary restraining order and unspecified legal costs.

The three groups deny the charges and have decided to allow The American Civil Liberties Union file a motion to dismiss the complaint.

About two-dozen protesters stood with signs around recruiter tables after some protesters kissed each other.

They were protesting recruiters' presence on campus as well as the pentagon's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy on gay servicemembers.

Reminds me when we had the religous crazies on our campus a few weeks ago

We set up a kissingbooth next to them :p

I can understand the recruiter's frustration, but if the students peacefully assembled to protest, I don't think anyone could deny them the right to do so.

Sounds like a frivilous lawsuit to me as well.

Stupid lawsuit yes, but it could be argued that the "protestors" were restricting the freedom of speech of the recruiters and those wanting to talk to them if they were blocking the tables and/or harassing those interested. It should be handled at the Univ. level.

I can only imagine what this scence deteriorated to.

I can only imagine what this scence deteriorated to.
Turn you on too?

Stupid lawsuit yes, but it could be argued that the "protestors" were restricting the freedom of speech of the recruiters and those wanting to talk to them if they were blocking the tables and/or harassing those interested. It should be handled at the Univ. level.

I didn't see anything about the recruiters being blocked from doing their job. It looks like the protesters had a plan to peacefully protest with signs and kissing. lol

They say they were verbally abusing people which might be true but even then I don't see the reason for a lawsuit. I've gotten called names all my life just for being white, for being poor, for my thick glasses, even just for having better grades. Sure it was hurtful but I got over it. I could maybe understand physical attacks being sued over if they were serious ones, but this seems assinine.

I didn't see anything about the recruiters being blocked from doing their job. It looks like the protesters had a plan to peacefully protest with signs and kissing. lol

They say they were verbally abusing people which might be true but even then I don't see the reason for a lawsuit. I've gotten called names all my life just for being white, for being poor, for my thick glasses, even just for having better grades. Sure it was hurtful but I got over it. I could maybe understand physical attacks being sued over if they were serious ones, but this seems assinine.

That's why I stated that I felt it was a stupid lawsuit and I said "if" they were blocking the tables etc. Either way it should have been handled at the Univ. level.

That's why I stated that I felt it was a stupid lawsuit and I said "if" they were blocking the tables etc. Either way it should have been handled at the Univ. level.

Yeah and I imagine that if the recruiters had a problem with the protesters and could corroborate unlawful actions performed by the protesters that they themselves would have taken some sort of action.

Yeah and I imagine that if the recruiters had a problem with the protesters and could corroborate unlawful actions performed by the protesters that they themselves would have taken some sort of action.

Of course ANY action taken by the recruiters (even saying something along the lines of "Please be quiet" ) would be met by cries of "Fascists" and "Nazi's".

Of course ANY action taken by the recruiters (even saying something along the lines of "Please be quiet" ) would be met by cries of "Fascists" and "Nazi's".

So? What do they care? They're military recruiters. One would think that they would be tough enough to handle a little name-calling.

It's not like people don't call them "Fascists" and "Nazis" already anyway.

Of course ANY action taken by the recruiters (even saying something along the lines of "Please be quiet" ) would be met by cries of "Fascists" and "Nazi's".
WTF does that have to do with the protestors civil liberties? If they were christian fundamentalists protesting, I'd also be defending their right to peacefully assemble. What's good for the goose...

Of course ANY action taken by the recruiters (even saying something along the lines of "Please be quiet" ) would be met by cries of "Fascists" and "Nazi's".


maybe but I don't know the protesters and can't assume that it is in fact a matter of course.

I've participated in plenty of protests where no such names were called. And when there were people who acted like that the majority of people were embarrassed by them and would ask them to quiet down or disassiciate with them.

WTF does that have to do with the protestors civil liberties? If they were christian fundamentalists protesting, I'd also be defending their right to peacefully assemble. What's good for the goose...

Now point me to the post where I stated that the protestors should NOT be allowed to peacefully assemble.

maybe but I don't know the protesters and can't assume that it is in fact a matter of course.

I've participated in plenty of protests where no such names were called. And when there were people who acted like that the majority of people were embarrassed by them and would ask them to quiet down or disassiciate with them.

I've seen both, the kind you mentioned (yay them) and the more obnoxious kind w/ screaming, harassing, destroying printed material, etc.

So? What do they care? They're military recruiters. One would think that they would be tough enough to handle a little name-calling.

It's not like people don't call them "Fascists" and "Nazis" already anyway.

As you completely miss the point.

Now point me to the post where I stated that the protestors should NOT be allowed to peacefully assemble.
I'm sorry, I assumed content where there was none. My apologies.

I'm sorry, I assumed content where there was none. My apologies.


'Tis cool.:fluffle:

It should be noted that it's not the recruiters who are pressing the suit, but the head of the local College Republicans, a group that went on record to protest the creation of GLBT on campus. They have a well known history of protesting anything they dislike on campus.

Which is absolutly funny as UNR is NOT what you would call a protest campus. Actually, I'd call it an apathetic campus really.

:fluffle:

If they were verbally accosting students and preventing access to the recruiters table, why weren't the police called to remove the protestors from the immediate area? This isn't something that you sue over.

If they were verbally accosting students and preventing access to the recruiters table, why weren't the police called to remove the protestors from the immediate area? This isn't something that you sue over.

Correct.

This just sounds like another insecure schlongpopper (hurray for non-existent words!) who wants everyone to be the same.

If they were verbally accosting students and preventing access to the recruiters table, why weren't the police called to remove the protestors from the immediate area? This isn't something that you sue over.
Exactly. It really smacks of bullshit when you ask that question. Why wouldn't you call the authorities (at least campus police) if you were in this "intimidating" situation? This is just funny for so many reasons. I guess they were embarrassed to tell the cops that the queers were scaring away potential recruits for the fucking military.
If you're going to let a few bold queens on high-volume keep you from joining the service, it's probably best that you don't engage in combat anytime soon. Don't you think?

Correct.

This just sounds like another insecure schlongpopper (hurray for non-existent words!) who wants everyone to be the same.

Don't forget moneygrubbing freeloader.

As you completely miss the point.

How so?

Some republican guy is suing because the military recruiters and people they are talking to might be intimidated and/or offended because of a bunch of people kissing around them and calling them names. I didn't know military recruiters and aspiring troops were so easily intimidated/offended.

Now, if they were blocking the recruiters from talking to people, then that would be a bit of a violation of free speech. But I can't see where it says that. As has been previously stated, I would think that the military recruiters would have taken some action, called campus police or something if this had been the case.

I can understand the recruiter's frustration, but if the students peacefully assembled to protest, I don't think anyone could deny them the right to do so.

Sounds like a frivilous lawsuit to me as well.
What I can't figure out is why a Republican group is getting involved in this matter. Were the "intimidated" students wearing GOP armbands, or something?

Frivolous? Stupid as all get-out.

What I can't figure out is why a Republican group is getting involved in this matter. Were the "intimidated" students wearing GOP armbands, or something?

Frivolous? Stupid as all get-out.
methinks that this lawsuit is incredibly stupid. it should get thrown out of court and the group who's sueing should get fined for their stupidity

What I can't figure out is why a Republican group is getting involved in this matter. Were the "intimidated" students wearing GOP armbands, or something?

Frivolous? Stupid as all get-out.

Exactly, if the students talking to the military recruiters were really that offended, they'd sue on their own. Same with the military recruiters.

This is just... ludicrous.

What I can't figure out is why a Republican group is getting involved in this matter. Were the "intimidated" students wearing GOP armbands, or something?

Frivolous? Stupid as all get-out.
Like I said above, this is funny for so many reasons. It raises question after question. Like, why were these "intensely patriotic" Republicans taking up space at a military recruitment effort unless they were signing up to defend their country in the first place? Obviously, it was just to protest the gay protestors! :p
Now that much hate has to be funny!

Like I said above, this is funny for so many reasons. It raises question after question. Like, why were these "intensely patriotic" Republicans taking up space at a military recruitment effort unless they were signing up to defend their country in the first place? Obviously, it was just to protest the gay protestors! :p
Now that much hate has to be funny!
There is an aspect to hatred that makes hearty laughter inevitable. It has something to do with being able to look at a given situation through another set of eyes. The funniest purveyors of hatred have no ability in this area whatsoever. They're so tightly wound it's a wonder they don't strip their own gears in the process.