NationStates Jolt Archive


Motherboards!!!

The South Islands
08-11-2005, 19:42
I'm not peticularly a computer guy. In other words, I don't know an AGP slot from a PCI slot to a (insert computery thingie here)!

I have general knowlege about graphics cards, RAM, and processors, but I have not the slightest clue on the Motherboard!

Tell me, NS General!
Hiberniae
08-11-2005, 19:46
AGP and PCI slots are expansion slots. AGP can only hold video cards but video cards are also made to fit PCI slots. Other things that can go into PCI slots are upgraded modems or the likes. If you know what type of processor, video card and how much ram you want, you can just match those things with a motherboard that fits all of them.
The South Islands
08-11-2005, 19:52
Most computers don't come with AGP slots anymore, right?

About a year ago, I tried to update the family computer with a 128MB AGP graphics card, only to discover that there were no AGP slots!

I ended up settling for a 64MB PCI card, instead. :(
Itinerate Tree Dweller
08-11-2005, 19:55
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/6830/busagppci0zr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The slot on the left is an AGP port, designed for more modern graphics cards. The 3 identical slots are pci slots, designed for other card types, such as modems and older (or low end) graphics cards.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
08-11-2005, 19:58
Most computers don't come with AGP slots anymore, right?

About a year ago, I tried to update the family computer with a 128MB AGP graphics card, only to discover that there were no AGP slots!

I ended up settling for a 64MB PCI card, instead. :(

No... agp is becoming more and more popular, and is a must for most modern graphics cards. Your motherboard is probably really old :D
Itinerate Tree Dweller
08-11-2005, 20:01
Now, AGP is similar to PCI, but has a much larger bus speed, so it allows for more data to flow. In the normal run of the mill programs, you would probably not notice much of a change, but with intense gaming, the differences will become much more apparent. Some games don't even support pci cards. I have heard the PCIX will threaten AGP's new position as the graphics card standard, but that waits to be seen.
Fass
08-11-2005, 20:03
No... agp is becoming more and more popular, and is a must for most modern graphics cards. Your motherboard is probably really old :D

Unless he has PCI Express, which is replacing AGP. AGP is old.
UpwardThrust
08-11-2005, 20:03
No... agp is becoming more and more popular, and is a must for most modern graphics cards. Your motherboard is probably really old :D
Correction PCI-E is becoming more and more populare AGP is a thing of the past
:p
UpwardThrust
08-11-2005, 20:05
Unless he has PCI Express, which is replacing AGP. AGP is old.
Doh fass got it
Fass
08-11-2005, 20:06
Doh fass got it

Tabbed browsing pwnz j00! :p
UpwardThrust
08-11-2005, 20:07
Now, AGP is similar to PCI, but has a much larger bus speed, so it allows for more data to flow. In the normal run of the mill programs, you would probably not notice much of a change, but with intense gaming, the differences will become much more apparent. Some games don't even support pci cards. I have heard the PCIX will threaten AGP's new position as the graphics card standard, but that waits to be seen.
Its PCI-E

PCI-X WAS the standard for about a month

But now it is confusing people

PCI-E equals pci express standard version (both the 16x slot and the 1x slot)

PCI-X equals pci-x which was implemented for a short amount of time (normaly seen in servers)
UpwardThrust
08-11-2005, 20:07
Tabbed browsing pwnz j00! :p
Lol I am tab browsing too :p
The South Islands
08-11-2005, 20:08
Wait, PCI and PCI-E?

This is getting confusing.
Fass
08-11-2005, 20:09
Lol I am tab browsing too :p

Well, Firefox 1.5 rc1 ownz j00, then!
UpwardThrust
08-11-2005, 20:12
Wait, PCI and PCI-E?

This is getting confusing.
PCI is your standard addtion slot
PCI-E (16x) is the new Graphics card standard addition slot

There is also a PCI-E(1x) that CAN be used as an standard addition slot (it is just a wee slot) ... really really short
Fass
08-11-2005, 20:12
Wait, PCI and PCI-E?

This is getting confusing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI-Express
The South Islands
08-11-2005, 20:14
Why are they all different sizes?
Is the PCI-E faster than AGP?
The South Islands
08-11-2005, 20:15
Oh, and I think my 64MB graphics card was a PCI-E.
UpwardThrust
08-11-2005, 20:18
Why are they all different sizes?
Is the PCI-E faster than AGP?

For different applications and speeds

Yes
UpwardThrust
08-11-2005, 20:19
Oh, and I think my 64MB graphics card was a PCI-E.
Very possible
The South Islands
08-11-2005, 20:27
Very possible

I think it was a Radeon 9200. I think.