NationStates Jolt Archive


Why I do not support Israel: The List

Serapindal
08-11-2005, 02:44
This is my list.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2...1112442,00.html (http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112442,00.html)

Chinese workers at a company in Israel have been forced to agree not to have sex with or marry Israelis as a condition of getting a job.

According to a contact they are required to sign, male workers may not have any contact with Israeli women - including prostitutes, a police spokesman, Rafi Yaffe, said.

He said there was nothing illegal about the requirement and that no investigation had been opened.

An Israeli lawyer who did not want to be named said while the contract might appear legal, it would be rejected if challenged in court. "The point is that a Chinese worker will agree to anything and then will not have anyone to help them if there is a problem," he said.

The labourers are also forbidden from engaging in any religious or political activity. The contract states that offenders will be sent back to China at their own expense.

About 260,000 foreigners work in Israel, having replaced Palestinian labourers during three years of fighting. When the government first allowed the entrance of the foreign workers in the late 1990s, ministers warned of a "social timebomb" caused by their assimilation with Israelis.

More than half the workers are in the country illegally. Israeli police have increased efforts to deport those working without permits because of rising Israeli unemployment, which has reached 11% in recent months.

Advocates of foreign workers, who also come from Thailand, the Philippines and Romania, say they are subject to almost slave conditions, and their employers often take away their passports and refuse to pay them.

Analysts say there is much division within Israeli society over immigration and status, although the conflict with the Palestinians has given it an appearance of unity. Recent immigrants such as Russians and Ethiopians are disliked by older immigrants, and there is much resentment among secular Israelis at the privileges given to ultra-orthodox Jews. The foreign workers are at the bottom of the pile.

Holy crap. Didn't Germany make a rule in like the 1930's that said Jews couldn't do anything with Aryans...and lets see what Israel's doing right now...the irony is delicious in a way..

Israeli settlers & IDF attacking Palestinians:

http://www.newint.org/issue348/mean.htm

The Old City of Hebron, home to 30,000 Palestinians, is under Israeli control. Some 400 armed, extremist settlers have moved into the centre claiming the old Kasbah. Its beating heart is now theirs. The aim: to liberate Hebron from the Arabs. Part of the settlement is built on top of the 700-year-old Arab market. Literally. On the ground floor are the Palestinians, on the first, second, third and fourth floors is the settlement, distinguishable by its newer, whiter stone. Some 2,000 Israeli soldiers imprison the Old Citys 30,000 Palestinians under almost 24-hour curfew. When they are let out the settlers attack them ergo, its easier to keep them locked up.

Watchtowers have been erected on top of Palestinian homes. Look up. Look around. There they are, gun-barrels bearing down on you. Even one of the schools has been turned into a military base. The atmosphere feels like a fully charged electric current, ready to blow at any time.



http://www.fromoccupiedpalestine.org/node.php?id=1278

Israeli leader's WWII analogy draws fire
RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI
The Associated Press, 23 May 2004; 11:43 AM EST.

Jerusalem -- Causing an uproar, an Israeli Cabinet minister said Sunday he was reminded of the suffering of his family under Nazi rule when he saw TV images of an Israeli offensive in a Palestinian refugee camp.

Justice Minister Yosef Lapid, a Holocaust survivor, insisted he was not likening army actions to Nazi policies. However, he said the picture of an elderly woman searching for medication in the rubble of a home razed by Israel in the Rafah camp reminded him of his grandmother.

Infuriated Cabinet colleagues said that even if unspoken, the analogy was clear, and demanded he retract his comments.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/intljustice/ge...assassinate.htm (http://www.globalpolicy.org/intljustice/general/2003/0618assassinate.htm)


By Moshe Reinfeld
Haaretz
June 18, 2003

The assassinations carried out by the Israel Defense Forces in the territories could beconsidered war crimes, according to the chairman of the UN International Criminal Tribunal for theformer Yugoslavia (ICTY), Prof. Antonio Cassese.

Cassese's opinion will be submitted Wednesday to the High Court of Justice as part of a hearing for a petition filed by the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel (PCATI) and the Palestinian Al-Qanon human rights organization. The petition, filed a year-and-a-half ago, was drafted by attorneys Avigdor Feldman and Michael Sefarad.

High Court President Justice Aharon Barak and Justices Theodor Or and Eliahu Mazza have already rejected an argument presented by the state, which tried to convince the court that the assassination issue is not adjudicative. In the next hearing to be held in three weeks, the court will consider the petitioners' request to issue a temporary injunction that would bar any assassinations (or targeted pinpoint preemption, as Israeli authorities call them) until the petition is decided.

Human Rights Watch charges the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) with committing war
crimes during its military operation against the Jenin refugee camp.

www.wsws.org/articles/2002/may2002/hrwa-m10.shtml

A report issued by Human Rights Watch (HRW) charges the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) with committing war crimes during its military operation against the Jenin refugee camp, and calls for a full international investigation into events during its occupation.

The 48-page report, Israel, the Occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip, and the Palestinian Authority Territories: Jenin: IDF Military Operations, is the outcome of a weeklong investigation in the camp by a team of three experienced investigators. Between April 19 and April 28, they interviewed some 100 victims and eyewitnesses, and took statements from international aid workers, medical workers, and local officials, as well as collecting information from public sources, including those of the Israeli government, about the operation. The IDF would not agree to Human Rights Watchs repeated requests for information regarding its military incursions into the West Bank and Gaza.

HRW were able to establish that at least 52 Palestinians were killed during the IDF operation. Of these, some 22 were civilians, many of whom were killed wilfully or unlawfully. These include children, physically disabled and elderly people. It also found numerous instances in which the IDF breached international humanitarian law and the Geneva Convention, including indiscriminate attacks on civilians and their property, denying medial aid and emergency supplies, and summary executions.

Israeli crimes against muslim and christian holy sites:

http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_e/ipc_e-1/e_News...eports-030.html (http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_e/ipc_e-1/e_News%20Reports/2003/reports-030.html)

Shelling Mosques and Churches

At the time Omar Bin Al Khattab Mosque was being shelled in Bethlehem, the Israeli forces were also shelling the Church of Nativity with no regard to their sanctity. In the West Bank city of Hebron, the Israeli occupation forces had unfairly taken control over a part of Al-Haram Al-Ibrahimi Mosque in order to use it as a synagogue.

In addition, the Israeli forces prevented the Palestinian Moslems from reaching Al-Aqsa Mosque to perform their prayers and prevented the Palestinian Christians from reaching the Church of Holy Sepulcher to perform their religious rites. Moreover, the Israeli forces attacked the Muslim religious scholars and the Christian clergymen on their way to perform prayers.

In an interview with the International Press Center in Gaza, the deputy of the Ministry of Religious Endowments and Affairs, Sheikh Yousef Salama, stated that the Israeli aggressions are a blatant violation of human rights and international law that obligates the occupying power to respect all beliefs and religions of the occupied people and keep the freedom of worship to all.


http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMD...open&of=ENG-PSE (http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE151492002?open&of=ENG-PSE)

Israel and the Occupied Territories
Shielded from scrutiny: IDF violations in Jenin and Nablus




Introduction
"IDF soldiers and officers have been given clear orders: to enter cities and villages which have become havens for terrorists; to catch and arrest terrorists and, primarily, their dispatchers and those who finance and support them; to confiscate weapons intended to be used against Israeli citizens; to expose and destroy terrorist facilities and explosives, laboratories, weapons production factories and secret installations."

Ariel Sharon, Israels Prime Minister, before the Knesset, 8 April 2002


"When I returned to my house there was nothing left. It was completely destroyed; my neighbourhood is completely destroyed."

A 40-year-old resident of Jenin refugee camp, speaking to Amnesty International about the April siege by the IDF of the camp


On 29 March 2002 the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) launched a new offensive, Operation Defensive Shield, in Palestinian residential areas. This followed a spate of killings of Israeli civilians by Palestinian armed groups during March. According to the IDF, the purpose of the offensive -- like the incursions into refugee camps which preceded it in March and the occupation of the West Bank which followed in June -- was to eradicate the infrastructure of "terrorism".

Wiki:
Sabra and Shatila massacre
See main article: Sabra and Shatila massacre
During the 1982 Lebanon War, while Ariel Sharon was Defense Minister, the Sabra and Shatila massacre took place, in which between 460 and 3,500 Palestinian civilians in the refugee camps were killed by Lebanese Christian forces under the command of Lebanese Maronite Phalange militia. The Security Chief of the Phalange militia, Elie Hobeika, was the ground commander of the militiamen who entered the Palestinian camps and killed the Palestinians. The Phalange had been sent into the camps to clear out PLO fighters, and Israeli forces had been sent to the camps at Sharon's command to provide them with logistical support and to guard camp exits. The following year, Hobeika defected to the Syrians, along with his supporters, and represented the Syrians in the Lebanese cabinet for 20 years, leading to speculation by victims' families that Hobeika was a double agent and that the massacres were a Syrian provocation.

The Kahan Commission investigating these massacres recommended in early 1983 the removal of Sharon from his post as Defense Minister. In their recommendations and closing remarks, the commission stated:

We have found, as has been detailed in this report, that the Minister of Defense [Ariel Sharon] bears personal responsibility. In our opinion, it is fitting that the Minister of Defense draw the appropriate personal conclusions arising out of the defects revealed with regard to the manner in which he discharged the duties of his office - and if necessary, that the Prime Minister consider whether he should exercise his authority under Section 21-A(a) of the Basic Law: the Government, according to which "the Prime Minister may, after informing the Cabinet of his intention to do so, remove a minister from office."[4]
Sharon was dismissed by Prime Minister Menachem Begin but he remained in successive governments as a Minister.

In 1987, TIME magazine published a story implying Sharon was directly responsible for the massacres. Sharon sued Time for libel in American and Israeli courts. Time won the suit in the U.S. court because Sharon could not establish that Time had "acted out of malice", as required under the U.S. law, although the jury found the article false and defamatory. [5]

On June 18, 2001, relatives of the victims of the Sabra massacre began proceedings in Belgium to have Ariel Sharon indicted on war crimes charges [6]. In June 2002, a Brussels Appeals Court rejected the lawsuit because the law was subsequently changed to disallow such lawsuits unless a Belgian citizen is involved. [7] (original: [8])

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0418-06.htm

A major United States human rights group is accusing the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) of using innocent Palestinians as hostages and human shields while carrying out military operations in the Palestinian territories.

Such practices, documented in a 23-page report released Thursday by New York-based Human Rights Watch (HRW), constitute "a serious violation of international humanitarian law" and a "war crime," according to the group which called on Israel to investigate specific incidents and bring those responsible to justice.

"Palestinians were taken at gunpoint to knock on doors, open strange packages, and search houses in which the IDF suspected armed Palestinians were present," according to the report, which described such practices as "routine."

In one case, a Palestinian man was shot in the upper leg in order to pressure his brother to surrender to IDF forces, a practice which amounted to "hostage-taking," the report said. "There is no justification for the abuses documented in this report," said Hanny Megally, director of HRW's Middle East and North Africa division. "The government of Israel should live up to its obligations and stop these acts immediately."

Israeli War Crimes

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=147713

An Israeli citizen interested in a more complex picture of reality has to rely on the remote control and the computer mouse. "I've been here many years but I don't remember such a dark period in the Israeli press," complained one foreign correspondent, who indeed has been here many years. But even if he slightly exaggerated, it's not a totally unrealistic assessment.

....


On Arab TV stations (though not only them) one could see Israeli soldiers taking over hospitals, breaking equipment, damaging medicines, and locking doctors away from their patients. In one interview, a doctor was whispering on a phone, explaining that he had to lower his voice lest the soldier in the next room cut off the conversation. Foreign television networks all over the world have shown the images of five Palestinians from the National Security forces, shot in the heads from close range; one was apparently the manager of the Palestinian Authority orchestra. Some of the networks have claimed they were shot in cold blood after they were disarmed.

Israeli War Crimes

web.amnesty.org/report2005/isr-summary-eng
http://web.amnesty.org/report2005/pse-summary-eng

The Israeli army killed more than 700 Palestinians, including some 150 children. Most were killed unlawfully  in reckless shooting, shelling and air strikes in civilian residential areas; in extrajudicial executions; and as a result of excessive use of force. Palestinian armed groups killed 109 Israelis  67 of them civilians and including eight children  in suicide bombings, shootings and mortar attacks.

How the Israeli Government Irradiated 100,000 Kids

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/octob...ormchildren.htm (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/281005ringwormchildren.htm)

They were to be used in a mass atomic experiment with an entire generation of Sephardi youths to be used as guinea pigs. Every Sephardi child was to be given 35,000 times the maximum dose of x-rays through his head. For doing so, the American government paid the Israeli government 300 million Israeli liras a year. The entire Health budget was 60 million liras. The money paid by the Americans is equivalent to billions of dollars today.

To fool the parents of the victims, the children were taken away on "school trips" and their parents were later told the x-rays were a treatment for the scourge of scalpal ringworm. 6,000 of the children died shortly after their doses were given, while many of the rest developed cancers that killed thousands over time and are still killing them now. While living, the victims suffered from disorders such as epilepsy, amnesia, Alzheimer's disease, chronic headaches and psychosis.

That's a good enough list, isn't it?
Dobbsworld
08-11-2005, 02:47
Beats me - I didn't read any of it. So you don't like Israel? So what? It's not like I give a damn one way or another.
Kreitzmoorland
08-11-2005, 02:48
Your first article form *cough* the Guardian was posted on here not long ago, and thouroghly refuted. I suggest you go look up that thread before using it as proof.
Serapindal
08-11-2005, 02:48
I just got back from a forum ban. o_O
DrunkenDove
08-11-2005, 02:50
I don't support either of them, and feel sorry for those caught in the middle.
Dobbsworld
08-11-2005, 02:50
I just got back from a forum ban. o_O
*shrugs*

Still doesn't mean anything. You've been burning to post that snoozefest for some time, have you?