Abercrombie & Fitch to pull tees after "girl-cott"
Sel Appa
07-11-2005, 21:29
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051106/us_nm/retail_abercrombiefitch_dc (News)
A national boycott of some shirt that says "Who needs brains when you have these?" has led A&F to pull the shirts back.
1. Ok the fact they call it a "girl-cott" pisses me off. Boycott was named after Charles Boycott who I think was involved in textiles. This makes me against their cause. Feminists...
2. Stupid preps buying designer trash.
Deep Kimchi
07-11-2005, 21:32
I hate the modern incarnation of Abercrombie & Fitch.
Ah, for the good old days, when a young British subaltern would go to Abercrombie & Fitch to procure his personal gear - from his shaving kit to his Webley revolver and Wilkinson sword.
Smunkeeville
07-11-2005, 21:32
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051106/us_nm/retail_abercrombiefitch_dc (News)
A national boycott of some shirt that says "Who needs brains when you have these?" has led A&F to pull the shirts back.
1. Ok the fact they call it a "girl-cott" pisses me off. Boycott was named after Charles Boycott who I think was involved in textiles. This makes me against their cause. Feminists...
2. Stupid preps buying designer trash.
I think it is
a) dumb, because if you don't like it then don't buy it (it is obviously a joke)
b) thier right to boycott. so I don't care.
Psychotic Mongooses
07-11-2005, 21:33
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051106/us_nm/retail_abercrombiefitch_dc (News)
A 1. Ok the fact they call it a "girl-cott" pisses me off. Boycott was named after Charles Boycott who I think was involved in textiles.
Nearly right.
English landlord (Capt. Boycott) in Ireland at the end of the 1800's early 1900's- treated his Irish tenants like crap.. so they went on strike.
Then the local town refused to serve him in shops, banks and post offices... effectively 'boycotted' him.
Made him bankrupt it did.
Edit: Linky no worky. :(
Intangelon
07-11-2005, 21:33
Dammit, where are the random tornadoes or meteors when you really need them?
Though I agree with you on the "girl-cott" issue -- that's just plain ignorant.
Boycott was named after Charles Boycott who I think was involved in textiles.
He was an English land agent in Ireland.
Teh_pantless_hero
07-11-2005, 21:38
Damn feminists and their egomaniacal tempering with words. Boycott has nothing to do with gender you hypocritical asshats. That pissed me off more when I first heard about it than anything else. If the dumb bitches keep buying the shit, they will keep producing similar stuff.
They could always use a different text: "who needs these when you have brains"
Damn feminists and their egomaniacal tempering with words. Shouldn't that be egowomaniacal :p
Amarnaiy
07-11-2005, 21:43
There was a girl at my school wearing that shirt... She had to turn it inside out.. >< Ha!
But still, Abercrombie and Fitch has definately lowered it's standards... I might get a pair of the odd guy's pants there. If they lasted at all!
Intangelon
07-11-2005, 21:43
See, that's the problem. They protest, throw a boycott, and then go right back to consuming their shitty products once the next news cycle starts and all the credit-wielding boycotters forget.
I'm incllined to agree with the free market approach, though. You no like? You no buy! A&F will eventually go the way that all retailers who find a temporary home with the quasi-affluent teen market. Here today, gone tomorrow. No amount of reinvention can save them from the fickleness of that target demographic.
Thadrian
07-11-2005, 21:44
1) The main thing in the way of feminism is feminism. Stop fucking around with terminology and just act like men if you want equality, dammit.
2) Blank shirt. No logo. I wear advertising, you pay me. I want words there, I'll put them there.
3) Some people can't take a joke. They deserve to be drug into the street, shackled to a cement block, and forced to tell knock-knock jokes while wearing a large chicken suit until life seems funny to them, at which point they will be released back into society as rehabilitated persons.
Amarnaiy
07-11-2005, 21:49
3) Some people can't take a joke. They deserve to be drug into the street, shackled to a cement block, and forced to tell knock-knock jokes while wearing a large chicken suit until life seems funny to them, at which point they will be released back into society as rehabilitated persons.
:) That makes me happy!
A message to Abercrombie and Fitch: :upyours:
What a fucking retarded and disgusting T-shirt to make.
If ever I was going to start shopping there, I won't now and I will discourage all my friends from doing the same.
Find me a link that works and I'll have this posted like mad on other message boards.
[NS]Olara
07-11-2005, 21:57
Shouldn't that be egowomaniacal :p
More like "egowomyniacal."
Olara']More like "egowomyniacal."Ah yes, forgot about that
:rolleyes:
Shazbotdom
07-11-2005, 22:15
LInk doesn't work
Correct link HERE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051106/us_nm/retail_abercrombiefitch_dc).
Have fun reading it.
The Nazz
07-11-2005, 22:40
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051106/us_nm/retail_abercrombiefitch_dc (News)
A national boycott of some shirt that says "Who needs brains when you have these?" has led A&F to pull the shirts back.
1. Ok the fact they call it a "girl-cott" pisses me off. Boycott was named after Charles Boycott who I think was involved in textiles. This makes me against their cause. Feminists...That's a pretty stupid fucking reason to be against their cause.
I don't get it.
Why are some people saying "they can't take a joke" while referring to people's reactions to the t-shirt slogan, but blowing up over the modest play on words that changes 'boycott' to 'girlcott'?
Can't you see that they are both jokes?
I wouldn't buy the t-shirt, but I've never shopped at Abercrombie and Fitch anyway.
Teh_pantless_hero
07-11-2005, 22:58
I don't get it.
Why are some people saying "they can't take a joke" while referring to people's reactions to the t-shirt slogan, but blowing up over the modest play on words that changes 'boycott' to 'girlcott'?
Can't you see that they are both jokes?
I wouldn't buy the t-shirt, but I've never shopped at Abercrombie and Fitch anyway.
Because Abercrombie & Fitch is the least of the companies making shirts like that and because the feminism movement is inherently hypocritical and pisses everyone off but feminists.
Because Abercrombie & Fitch is the least of the companies making shirts like that and because the feminism movement is inherently hypocritical and pisses everyone off but feminists.
So you're saying that you don't get the joke either?
Teh_pantless_hero
07-11-2005, 23:13
So you're saying that you don't get the joke either?
It is so bad of a joke it doesn't count because of who is using it, it is the feminists trying to look important again.
See, that's the problem. They protest, throw a boycott, and then go right back to consuming their shitty products once the next news cycle starts and all the credit-wielding boycotters forget..
Okay so you may not agree with everything A and F does, but their products generally last. Most of them are made well esp jeans and such. Its their prerogative to make the products they want, and as long as they are making money they will do what they please.
Eutrusca
07-11-2005, 23:16
"Abercrombie & Fitch to pull tees after "girl-cott""
Good. The damned shirts were offensive and trashy.
Linthiopia
07-11-2005, 23:20
I agree... The shirts were degrading, and really shouldn't have been sold in the first place.
...
Although I must admit that the term "Girl-cott" is almost as aggravating as the shirts. As other posters have pointed out... It's just plain stupid, and is very ignorant.
Amoebistan
07-11-2005, 23:21
Maybe it's one of those "are you comfortable in your masculinity" things for the guys here. I don't find the "girlcott" offensive in any way. I think it's funny. Silly things are there for a reason: to make you laugh! So laugh, it's good for you.
As for the message of the T-shirt, well, these people with their calls for girlcott or whatever are the embodiment of market forces. They're trying to create a countervailing market force to the demand for A&F T-shirts - instead, a rejection of the brand. They have every right to do that. A&F has enough momentum to survive this little hiccup and if these young ladies have enough annoyance to turn back an army of shoppers, good for them - this too shall pass.
I think everybody at A&F would be better off if they bought their shirts from places like Lands' End. They're probably cheaper, for lacking a popular brand name, or maybe the same price; and they're almost definitely sturdier, judging by the prevailing trend. I compare my brand-name jeans and my Lands' End jeans, having bought two of each at the end of 2002 - my brand-name jeans are faded, tattered and moth-devoured while my LE jeans retain their color, they haven't suffered a scratch from all the kneeling on pavement I do in pursuit of my car-work hobby, and they've only been scratched here and there by moths.
Oh, right. $25 a pair for both, IIRC.
Eutrusca
07-11-2005, 23:23
Maybe it's one of those "are you comfortable in your masculinity" things for the guys here. I don't find the "girlcott" offensive in any way. I think it's funny. Silly things are there for a reason: to make you laugh! So laugh, it's good for you.
A t-shirt that says "Freshman 15" and supposedly lists the names of 15 upperclassmen a new HS Freshman girl has screwed to get into some sort of "club" is "silly." Riiiiiight! :rolleyes:
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 23:27
More people should boycott shit they don't like. If we keep buying stuff we are ethically or morally disproving of, we're effectively making ourselves hypocrites. Whether you agree with their point or not, you have to support people who take a responsable stand for their beliefs.
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 23:27
More people should boycott shit they don't like. If we keep buying stuff we are ethically or morally disproving of, we're effectively making ourselves hypocrites. Whether you agree with their point or not, you have to support people who take a responsable stand for their beliefs.
Culaypene
07-11-2005, 23:40
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051106/us_nm/retail_abercrombiefitch_dc (News)
A national boycott of some shirt that says "Who needs brains when you have these?" has led A&F to pull the shirts back.
1. Ok the fact they call it a "girl-cott" pisses me off. Boycott was named after Charles Boycott who I think was involved in textiles. This makes me against their cause. Feminists...
2. Stupid preps buying designer trash.
1. I'm very very impressed that you know who boycott was named after. Since you know this little piece of trivia, no one is ever allowed to make a pun! who gives two flips where the word comes from? it lends itself quite nicely to an innocent and irresistable pun. get over it. also! you do not need to be a feminist, or even a woman, to be offended by that statement. it is obviously offensive and reverts back to ideas and stereotypes that the american people (of both genders!) have been working against for a long time. how is it any different from when asian-americans protested against one of A&F shirts a few year ago.
2. your use of the word prep shows that you are probably in middle school and discredits your entire "argument."
It is so bad of a joke it doesn't count because of who is using it, it is the feminists trying to look important again.
But making a joke about "not needing brains if you have tits" is absolutely hilarious, eh? Nothing at all offensive about that. Much funnier than calling a boycott primarily made up of women a "girlcott". :rolleyes:
Wow. We all have selective senses of humour. Who would have guessed.
Amoebistan
07-11-2005, 23:48
A t-shirt that says "Freshman 15" and supposedly lists the names of 15 upperclassmen a new HS Freshman girl has screwed to get into some sort of "club" is "silly." Riiiiiight! :rolleyes:
I was commenting on the word "girlcott", not on the material printed on the shirts.
The shirts with logos I buy are ones I get from shops that supply me with other valuable goods and services, like Charles River Canoe & Kayak, with the one exception of a shirt covered in the badges of armor brigades. The other logo or slogan shirts I wear are typically souveniers given to me as gifts, rewards for participating in volunteer programs, that kind of thing. So maybe I just don't get the T-shirt thing.
Anarchic Conceptions
08-11-2005, 00:06
Because Abercrombie & Fitch is the least of the companies making shirts like that and because the feminism movement is inherently hypocritical and pisses everyone off but feminists.
You make it sound like feminism is a united school thought.
Teh_pantless_hero
08-11-2005, 00:15
But making a joke about "not needing brains if you have tits" is absolutely hilarious, eh? Nothing at all offensive about that. Much funnier than calling a boycott primarily made up of women a "girlcott". :rolleyes:
Wow. We all have selective senses of humour. Who would have guessed.
I already made my point on the subject, twice. And true things arn't funny are they?
I already made my point on the subject, twice. And true things arn't funny are they?
See, while I can find the humour in both situations, I'm having considerably more trouble finding your "truth".
Euroslavia
08-11-2005, 01:13
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051106/us_nm/retail_abercrombiefitch_dc (News)
A national boycott of some shirt that says "Who needs brains when you have these?" has led A&F to pull the shirts back.
1. Ok the fact they call it a "girl-cott" pisses me off. Boycott was named after Charles Boycott who I think was involved in textiles. This makes me against their cause. Feminists...
2. Stupid preps buying designer trash.
Emphasis mine.
Typical stereotype. I love it. :rolleyes:
I happened to work for Hollister, which is a company of Abercrombie and Fitch. I happened to like the clothing, because I find it to be very comfortable. Abercrombie & Fitch and Company is anything but designer stuff, so honestly, you're making a pretty false generalization.
1. I'm very very impressed that you know who boycott was named after. Since you know this little piece of trivia, no one is ever allowed to make a pun! who gives two flips where the word comes from? it lends itself quite nicely to an innocent and irresistable pun. get over it. also! you do not need to be a feminist, or even a woman, to be offended by that statement. it is obviously offensive and reverts back to ideas and stereotypes that the american people (of both genders!) have been working against for a long time. how is it any different from when asian-americans protested against one of A&F shirts a few year ago.
2. your use of the word prep shows that you are probably in middle school and discredits your entire "argument."
I agree with the above post.
I thought this was funny when I saw it on the Today show. This 16 year old girl saying how it was creating "tension" in school by enforcing the stereotypical blondes versus brunettes war. And a semi-articulate 13 year girl who was, like, mad and stuff when her friends wore the shirts. Then Katy Couric (?) proceeded to take a shirt and say something like, "I especially don't like this one. I'd hate to have my daughter wear it." Then she read it aloud. The shirt said, "Tig ole Bitties" and I was laughing for a solid 3 minutes. Some goddam people have no sense of humor. Yes, these shirts are the downfall of culture. Forget about world hunger, there are slightly offensive shirts to take care of. And seriously, I hate abbercrombie as much as the next leftist guy, but really, I thought they were funny.
Teh_pantless_hero
08-11-2005, 01:30
If guys could be as popular as girls by wearing similar shirts like "Why arn't you look at my crotch," they would be everywhere too.
Sdaeriji
08-11-2005, 01:54
2. Stupid preps buying designer trash.
Because it's so original and totally non-conformist to hate A&F for no legitimate reason.
Neutered Sputniks
08-11-2005, 02:00
Who the hell are these young girls to tell me what the hell I can and cannot wear on my shirt? If no one likes them, no one will buy them. If they're offensive, then grow a sense of humor - life really is just that funny. Otherwise, you'll die old and grumpy...and besides yelling at kids as they walk in front of your house, what's the point of being grumpy?
To all those that are claiming "girlcott" is a joke play on "boycott:" While it might be simply a joke play, the bottom line is that it depends on who's using it. The Media using it as a play on words is surely a joke to be (at a minimum) chuckled at. However, when uttered by feminazis, it is most surely not used in jest and thus should not be taken as a joke.
In response to whomever posted about males being able to get away with similar shirts: There are many MANY shirts out there that are effectively saying the same thing for guys.
To Everyone that's fighting / up-in-arms over this: Get a life and stop trying to tell others what to do with theirs or how to live theirs or what is and isnt offensive or even what is and isnt immoral. (and learn to love the irony, no?)
Eutrusca
08-11-2005, 02:01
I happened to work for Hollister, which is a company of Abercrombie and Fitch. I happened to like the clothing, because I find it to be very comfortable. Abercrombie & Fitch and Company is anything but designer stuff, so honestly, you're making a pretty false generalization.
Well, that explains a lot of things. :rolleyes:
Sdaeriji
08-11-2005, 02:04
Well, that explains a lot of things. :rolleyes:
What exactly does it explain, old man?
DrunkenDove
08-11-2005, 02:05
What exactly does it explain, old man?
Indeed. Don't leave us hanging.
Eutrusca
08-11-2005, 02:05
Who the hell are these young girls to tell me what the hell I can and cannot wear on my shirt? If no one likes them, no one will buy them. If they're offensive, then grow a sense of humor - life really is just that funny. Otherwise, you'll die old and grumpy...and besides yelling at kids as they walk in front of your house, what's the point of being grumpy?
To Everyone that's fighting / up-in-arms over this: Get a life and stop trying to tell others what to do with theirs or how to live theirs or what is and isnt offensive or even what is and isnt immoral. (and learn to love the irony, no?)
I thought the slogans were relatively funny too, but that doesn't mean that I want my 15 and 13 year old grandaughters to wear them, feel any social pressure to wear them, or even to see them worn by other girls. Perhaps when you have daughters or grand-daughters you'll feel the same way? :)
Eutrusca
08-11-2005, 02:06
What exactly does it explain, old man?
Never mind, young phoole. :D
Sdaeriji
08-11-2005, 02:07
Never mind, young phoole. :D
No no, I insist. I want to know what deep, personal truths you can determine about a person based on the stores that they shop at.
UpwardThrust
08-11-2005, 02:08
I thought the slogans were relatively funny too, but that doesn't mean that I want my 15 and 13 year old grandaughters to wear them, feel any social pressure to wear them, or even to see them worn by other girls. Perhaps when you have daughters or grand-daughters you'll feel the same way? :)
While I can understand about you not wanting your granddaughters to wear them and such but personaly I would not really much care if they viewed other girls wearing them
Who the hell are these young girls to tell me what the hell I can and cannot wear on my shirt? If no one likes them, no one will buy them. If they're offensive, then grow a sense of humor - life really is just that funny. Otherwise, you'll die old and grumpy...and besides yelling at kids as they walk in front of your house, what's the point of being grumpy?
To all those that are claiming "girlcott" is a joke play on "boycott:" While it might be simply a joke play, the bottom line is that it depends on who's using it. The Media using it as a play on words is surely a joke to be (at a minimum) chuckled at. However, when uttered by feminazis, it is most surely not used in jest and thus should not be taken as a joke.
Wow. I can't believe this.
So when it's a joke against women, then it's perfectly fine. When it's a play on words uttered by a girl, it's an attack of the feminazis. This is the 21st century, you know.
Eutrusca
08-11-2005, 02:10
No no, I insist. I want to know what deep, personal truths you can determine about a person based on the stores that they shop at.
Huh? WTF are you on about? Where did I indicate you can determine anything about anyone based on the stores they shop at? You need to have your headspace and timing checked, apparently.
You can "insist" all you like, but the post stands on its own and I will not discuss it further. :p
Sdaeriji
08-11-2005, 02:11
Huh? WTF are you on about? Where did I indicate you can determine anything about anyone based on the stores they shop at? You need to have your headspace and timing checked, apparently.
You can "insist" all you like, but the post stands on its own and I will not discuss it further. :p
Your little game grows tiresome.
DrunkenDove
08-11-2005, 02:12
Huh? WTF are you on about? Where did I indicate you can determine anything about anyone based on the stores they shop at? You need to have your headspace and timing checked, apparently.
You can "insist" all you like, but the post stands on its own and I will not discuss it further. :p
That army anti-interrogation training seems to have paid dividends.
Eutrusca
08-11-2005, 02:12
While I can understand about you not wanting your granddaughters to wear them and such but personaly I would not really much care if they viewed other girls wearing them
That may have been a bit extreme, granted. I wouldn't like the idea of someone telling me that my children couldn't wear whatever they wanted, within reasonable limits that is. I retract that portion of my post. :)
Eutrusca
08-11-2005, 02:13
Your little game grows tiresome.
Simple solution for you: don't play! :D
UpwardThrust
08-11-2005, 02:15
That may have been a bit extreme, granted. I wouldn't like the idea of someone telling me that my children couldn't wear whatever they wanted, within reasonable limits that is. I retract that portion of my post. :)
Well then I agree :)
I dont find the shirts tastefull personally and would not like my kids or grandkids wearing them
But If they insist it is their right to freedom of speech ... I will make sure to use mine by expressing my disaproval
Eutrusca
08-11-2005, 02:15
That army anti-interrogation training seems to have paid dividends.
And you would know this, how?
Eutrusca
08-11-2005, 02:17
Well then I agree :)
I dont find the shirts tastefull personally and would not like my kids or grandkids wearing them
But If they insist it is their right to freedom of speech ... I will make sure to use mine by expressing my disaproval
This is illustrative of how the fine line between freedom of speech and speech which is unacceptable ( for a variety of reasons ) continues to be a source of friction, and probably always will be.
DrunkenDove
08-11-2005, 02:17
And you would know this, how?
Your artful dodging of the question, of course.
Eutrusca
08-11-2005, 02:20
Your artful dodging of the question, of course.
Hmm. I wasn't aware of any "artful doding." As I recall, I simply refused to be drawn into a possible thread hijack by saying that I wouldn't discuss it further. Pretty straight-forward there, yes? :)
UpwardThrust
08-11-2005, 02:22
This is illustrative of how the fine line between freedom of speech and speech which is unacceptable ( for a variety of reasons ) continues to be a source of friction, and probably always will be.
Personaly for adults I find no speach unasceptable
Disagreable
Detestable
But not un-acceptable (baring imidiate threat speach such as fire in a crouded room)
As a minor I draw the line at anything that endangers them
(now dont get me wrong freedom of speech goes both ways they say something I find to be not appropreate they are geting a toung lashing like no tomarrow)
Eutrusca
08-11-2005, 02:27
Personaly for adults I find no speach unacceptable
Disagreable
Detestable
But not un-acceptable (baring imidiate threat speach such as fire in a crouded room)
As a minor I draw the line at anything that endangers them
(now dont get me wrong freedom of speech goes both ways they say something I find to be not appropreate they are geting a toung lashing like no tomarrow)
I tend to agree with this, but if a parent wants to shield their child from obscene speech ( for example ), it becomes increasingly difficult if there are adults around who indulge themselves in it. It's a conundrum.
Euroslavia
08-11-2005, 02:42
Well, that explains a lot of things. :rolleyes:
I'd really appreciate it if you explained what that was supposed to mean. If you're trying to make some sort of poke at me, because I work at Hollister and I like the clothes, then obviously, that was a pretty low blow.
Dodudodu
08-11-2005, 03:05
Comon though, we are getting off the point. it is a funny shirt...made me chuckle.
The girlcott stuff isn't a huge deal.
I just don't wear A&F because I can't afford the stuff. Then again, if I could- I probably still wouldn't; Why waste money on clothes when I can buy something cooler? I don't need 30 dollar jeans when I can get a pair at Ross's for like ten or fifteen bucks.
Thats my argument against A&F, Walmart (Checked their prices lately? Most of their stuff rose to just a few cents less than other places) and whatever other more expensive stores are out there.
UpwardThrust
08-11-2005, 03:10
I tend to agree with this, but if a parent wants to shield their child from obscene speech ( for example ), it becomes increasingly difficult if there are adults around who indulge themselves in it. It's a conundrum.
Yeah it does ... though then it becomes your responsibility to controll who your child is in contact with rather then controlling what they say
Neutered Sputniks
08-11-2005, 03:18
Wow. I can't believe this.
So when it's a joke against women, then it's perfectly fine. When it's a play on words uttered by a girl, it's an attack of the feminazis. This is the 21st century, you know.
See, now this is why I rarely post in General anymore. Everyone takes everything as an offense against whatever their beliefs are...
It's a joke because the people who designed the shirt intended for it to be somewhat humorous...(if they didnt, well, then I'm wrong and the world is a far more serious place than I had thought)
When feminazis are using a term in a serious matter, it's not a joke.
Now, I know that's a difficult concept to wrap one's mind around, but, goddamnit, LAUGH.
Neutered Sputniks
08-11-2005, 03:24
Comon though, we are getting off the point. it is a funny shirt...made me chuckle.
The girlcott stuff isn't a huge deal.
I just don't wear A&F because I can't afford the stuff. Then again, if I could- I probably still wouldn't; Why waste money on clothes when I can buy something cooler? I don't need 30 dollar jeans when I can get a pair at Ross's for like ten or fifteen bucks.
Thats my argument against A&F, Walmart (Checked their prices lately? Most of their stuff rose to just a few cents less than other places) and whatever other more expensive stores are out there.
I'll say this much:
The $75 I spent on a pair of Lucky Brand jeans was hardly a waste and had my brother not stolen them and shredded the knees doing I dont know what, I'd probably still have them 4-5 years later (as have the other 2 pairs of Luckys I own).
By the same token, the $30 pair of Levi's I've owned for the past 3 years are just as comfortable and have held up to my abuse just as well.
The difference? The Levi's are still being broken in, while the Luckys where damn comfortable when I first wore them.
I no longer buy Lucky's, but that's because they've "sold out" to the mainstream instead of producing the higher quality clothing items they used to produce (personal opinion, and arguing with me wont change it, so dont waste your breath / typing).
Will I buy clothing at Wal-Mart? Usually not, but part of that's because I dont particularly care for the styles they carry there.
[besides, where I live, that'd be the redneck store of choice and I prefer not to be seen as a redneck... (joke, laugh, funny, ha-fucking-ha)]
Neutered Sputniks
08-11-2005, 03:26
I'd really appreciate it if you explained what that was supposed to mean. If you're trying to make some sort of poke at me, because I work at Hollister and I like the clothes, then obviously, that was a pretty low blow.
Ahhh, but then Eut would've been cornered into coming across extremely petty and superficial - much like he attempted to accuse those who shop at 'Preppy' stores of being.
Wether that's unintended irony, or straight-up hypocrisy, it's ugly either way.
Culaypene
08-11-2005, 03:41
Who the hell are these young girls to tell me what the hell I can and cannot wear on my shirt? If no one likes them, no one will buy them. If they're offensive, then grow a sense of humor - life really is just that funny. Otherwise, you'll die old and grumpy...and besides yelling at kids as they walk in front of your house, what's the point of being grumpy?
To all those that are claiming "girlcott" is a joke play on "boycott:" While it might be simply a joke play, the bottom line is that it depends on who's using it. The Media using it as a play on words is surely a joke to be (at a minimum) chuckled at. However, when uttered by feminazis, it is most surely not used in jest and thus should not be taken as a joke.
In response to whomever posted about males being able to get away with similar shirts: There are many MANY shirts out there that are effectively saying the same thing for guys.
To Everyone that's fighting / up-in-arms over this: Get a life and stop trying to tell others what to do with theirs or how to live theirs or what is and isnt offensive or even what is and isnt immoral. (and learn to love the irony, no?)
The girls who called for and participated in the boycott, or girlcott if you will, weren't launching a full scale political attack on A&F and telling those who continuted to shop there that they were mindless, consumeristic POS's. No, they were middle school girls going "hey wait! thats not nice!"
You can barely blame a group of people for objecting to their own marginilization. And by refusing to pay money to be marginilized...yes. damn the whole lot of them! They're all crazy feminazis! The majority of them probably couldn't tell you the difference between Gloria Steinum and Gertrude Stein or give the year for Roe V. Wade, but the disease of feminism courses through their young, supple veins!
In the end, I am proud of the young women that participated in this. I'm glad to see that the next generation of females actually do have a exploitation breaking point.
Oh, and yes. Feminazi is an offensive and ignorant term and I would appreciate if you would refrain from using a word that reflects a level of ignorance and idiocy, because I am sure you are not.
Olara']More like "egowomyniacal."
I wouldn't put it past them. Womanizing words is one of my peeves. Like the word peeves.
Edit: I'm tired of linking Maddox, but I feel his rant is relevant here. Visit this webpage (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=stupid_bitch).
Neutered Sputniks
08-11-2005, 03:57
The girls who called for and participated in the boycott, or girlcott if you will, weren't launching a full scale political attack on A&F and telling those who continuted to shop there that they were mindless, consumeristic POS's. No, they were middle school girls going "hey wait! thats not nice!"
You can barely blame a group of people for objecting to their own marginilization. And by refusing to pay money to be marginilized...yes. damn the whole lot of them! They're all crazy feminazis! The majority of them probably couldn't tell you the difference between Gloria Steinum and Gertrude Stein or give the year for Roe V. Wade, but the disease of feminism courses through their young, supple veins!
In the end, I am proud of the young women that participated in this. I'm glad to see that the next generation of females actually do have a exploitation breaking point.
Oh, and yes. Feminazi is an offensive and ignorant term and I would appreciate if you would refrain from using a word that reflect idiocy, because I am sure you are not.
Once again, why does everyone take me so damn seriously? Did you miss all the points where I was attempting to show that the post was to be somewhat light-hearted? Now, I've not made a single post claiming what they did was wrong other than stating that they have no right to tell me what I can and cannot wear. Nor did I damn the group of kids that stood up and said it was wrong. Rather, I damned their attempt at prescribing what is and isnt acceptable attire for ME - something they have no right to do.
I will continue to use the term Feminazi simply because I now know it irks you and, quite frankly, who the hell are you to tell me what I can and cannot say? If we were to censor every bit of literature or the web according to what is and isnt offensive to everyone, there would be no literature or internet left.
Remember, when something offends you it's because you have made a decision to be offended by it - yes, it's really quite that simple. Whether you like a term or not, or agree with a term or not, being offended by it is your personal choice.
(and yes, I know, my comments about personal choice will be taken out of context and blown out of proportion to attack me by stating that perhaps we shouldnt have laws at all because who is the Gov't to tell me what to do...go fuck yourself (not directed at anyone in particular, mind you) because I think we all know that's not what I'm saying. If you dont, well, open your mind a bit...it's fun...)
The Plutonian Empire
08-11-2005, 04:05
Dammit, where are the random tornadoes or meteors when you really need them?
Agreed!
Culaypene
08-11-2005, 04:05
I will continue to use the term Feminazi simply because I now know it irks you and, quite frankly, who the hell are you to tell me what I can and cannot say? If we were to censor every bit of literature or the web according to what is and isnt offensive to everyone, there would be no literature or internet left.
Remember, when something offends you it's because you have made a decision to be offended by it - yes, it's really quite that simple. Whether you like a term or not, or agree with a term or not, being offended by it is your personal choice.
my attempt to tell you not use the word feminazi goes right along nicely with your attempt to tell people that they can't use the word girlcott.
interesting how that works out.....
Teh_pantless_hero
08-11-2005, 04:07
Well this topic has gone to hell, for no mysterious reason.
Neutered Sputniks
08-11-2005, 04:21
my attempt to tell you not use the word feminazi goes right along nicely with your attempt to tell people that they can't use the word girlcott.
interesting how that works out.....
Interesting how my words were taken out of context to make your point.
I said that the way the use of 'girlcott' should be taken depends on who's using it. I hardly doubt feminazis would throw that term around in a light-hearted manner whereas the Media might.
But, whatever. I think I shall go back to not posting since everything I say is taken out of context to pick a fight and I personally dont believe it's worth my time to fight in an internet forum. I have far more important things to do with my time than attempt to defend myself against people who are merely picking fights for the sake of picking fights.
Gauthier
08-11-2005, 04:56
That army anti-interrogation training seems to have paid dividends.
Nah, it's his natural Bushevik tendency to emulate Dear Leader's "I don't have to answer for [/B]anything[/B]" attitude.
:D
Lacadaemon
08-11-2005, 06:12
I preferred the racist t-shirts they had to pull from the stores a few years ago.
Still I have to hand it to them, they get more free advertising this way (and with their "scandalous" catalogue), than you can shake a stick at. Whoever is running their marketing isn't paid nearly enough.
The Tetelestai
08-11-2005, 06:39
I wonder how much one of these shirts will go for on ebay...wait...here it is.
http://cgi.ebay.com/AUTHENTIC-Abercrombie-Who-Needs-Brains-shirt-M-Medium_W0QQitemZ5441618328QQcategoryZ63869QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem