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DB Cooper - Dead or Alive?

Plator
07-11-2005, 16:43
If you're like me than you've been watching "Prison Break" a most excellent television show. References have been made in the show about the notorious DB Cooper. Do you think he made it? Do you think he's still alive? Are you, in fact, DB Cooper himself and are reading this? Here's his bio:
The particulars of D.B. Cooper's clever airborne crime and daredevil getaway have been pondered, picked over and recapitulated for three decades now.


DB COOPER
In 1971, D.B. Cooper hijacked and threatened to blow up an airliner, extorted $200,000 from its owner, Northwest Orient, then leaped from the airborne 727 with 21 pounds of $20 bills strapped to his torso.

He was never seen again—dead or alive. The crime was perfect if he lived, perfectly crazy if he didn't.

In either case, D.B. Cooper's nom de crime—no one knows his real name—may be the most recognized alias among western felons since Jack the Ripper.

Everyone from dour G-men to giddy amateur sleuths have pored over the details, hoping to wheedle a resolution out of some overlooked aspect, as though a clue concealed in the holdup's hieroglyph of facts might lead to an a-ha!, a la Inspector Clouseau.

Yet the case remains unsolved more than 30 years later, and D. B. Cooper has become the Bigfoot of crime, evading one of the most extensive and expensive American manhunts of the 20th century. The whereabouts of the man (or his remains) is one of the great crime mysteries of our time.

Of course, the annals of wrongdoing are stuffed with titillating unsolved cases, from London's notorious ripper in the 1880s to the Black Dahlia murder of an aspiring actress in Los Angeles in 1947 to the befuddling murder—and muddled investigation—of little Jon Benet Ramsey in 1997 in Boulder, Colo.

But D.B. Cooper's crime was different. First, no innocent bystander was injured, although law enforcers argue that he put several dozen lives at risk.

There was modest collateral damage to Northwest Orient's bottom line, and the FBI's swollen ego was bruised to the bone. Cooper pulled his buccaneering swipe in the twilight of the 47-year tenure of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who died not long after the hijacking. The director no doubt went to his grave with teeth gritted over his agency's inability, in this case, to get their man.

Cooper's crime also was unusual in that it helped rally critical support for sweeping air travel security initiatives, including passenger screening. Until D. B. Cooper's skydive, it was entirely possible to walk aboard a jet carrying a bomb.

Most law-abiders react with revulsion to violent criminals, with disgust to extortionists, and with a tsk-tsk to the preponderate larcenies that fill crime blotters in police stations across America.

Yet Cooper induced more smiles than frowns.

Hijackings became more violent and less palatable as the 1970s wore on, and the destruction of September 11, 2001, makes any such act seem evil.

But D. B. Cooper's crime was of its time, the early 1970s, when antisocial behavior had cache. Many Americans commended his moxie. He was celebrated in a song, film and books. He managed to tweak J. Edgar Hoover's nose and finagle a bag of loot from a big corporation. He was Robin Hood for tie-dyed longhairs—and not a few wearers of more traditional attire.

But did D. B. Cooper get away with it? No one can say for certain. We do know that he could have survived the dangerous nighttime skydive because Cooper's caper, like a crime science experiment, was replicated with complete success by a copycat aerial clip artist just months later. That hijacker hit the ground safely, although the mimic ultimately paid dearly. The copycat case also spawned a controversial theory about the fate of Dan Cooper.

Coincidentally, Cooper himself probably copied a similar hijacking that occurred two weeks before his endeavor.

Many others have tried variations on the airline extortion technique—generally with less success. Some have "splattered," as law enforcers like to say. FBI investigators believe Cooper probably met that fate—a fatal kiss of the ground. But their opinion is far from unanimous.

Books by a half-dozen authors, including three separate tomes by ex-FBI agents, have posited theories—some serious, some spurious—about what happened to Cooper. Several men have stepped forward claiming to be Cooper, although none convincingly so. Some believe Cooper is alive and well and living on a beach in Mexico. Others say he slipped back into an obscure American life and grins like a Cheshire cat at premature reports of his demise.
THE LOST PLANET
07-11-2005, 17:02
Didn't they find some of the currency paid to him rotting in a river bank some years back? Kind of adds to the probability that his landing in what was a wildreness area, wasn't as smooth as he hoped it would be.
Intangelon
07-11-2005, 17:14
I'm originally from the Pacific Northwest.
Cooper jumped from a 707 flying at least 250 miles an hour to maintain its height in level flight.
If the initial shock of that kind of atmosphere switch didn't knock him out and make it impossible for him to pull his 'chute (thereby turning him into a human meteor), then the terrain and fauna of southwestern Washington (bears, cougars, wolves, exposure, starvation if he wasn't found within a certain amount of time which is possible given how vast that area is and how slow folks on foot in forests are) would have killed him.

Yes, a couple of kids found some of the money that is supposed to have been stolen by Cooper. So what? He's dead. And even if he isn't, so the hell what? If the guy went to so much trouble for a few thousand dollars, I say he earned it. But I don't care, 'cause he's dead.
The South Islands
07-11-2005, 17:21
Didn't they find some of the currency paid to him rotting in a river bank some years back? Kind of adds to the probability that his landing in what was a wildreness area, wasn't as smooth as he hoped it would be.

Perhaps he ment to leave some currancy where his probable drop zone would be? Make the police draw the same conclusion.

Just a thought!
THE LOST PLANET
07-11-2005, 17:28
Perhaps he ment to leave some currancy where his probable drop zone would be? Make the police draw the same conclusion.

Just a thought!His probable drop zone was several hundred square miles of the columbia river basin, a northern rain forest and rather rugged terrain if I remember correctly. Leaving money to be washed down stream and accidently be stumbeled on by hunters 25 years later seems a little extreme for a diversion attempt.

Although others have proposed similar theories, refusing to acknowledge the likelyhood of his demise.

One was that the money came loose during his freefall.
Plator
07-11-2005, 20:47
His probable drop zone was several hundred square miles of the columbia river basin, a northern rain forest and rather rugged terrain if I remember correctly. Leaving money to be washed down stream and accidently be stumbeled on by hunters 25 years later seems a little extreme for a diversion attempt.

Although others have proposed similar theories, refusing to acknowledge the likelyhood of his demise.

One was that the money came loose during his freefall.
The romantic in me wants to say he's still alive and living in Canada up in the Muskokas. Who knows he could be drinking a beer with Osama Bin Laden right now up there. (That is where Bin Ladenis by the way).
He must be alive according to the above poll.:)
HC Eredivisie
07-11-2005, 21:04
I'm originally from the Pacific Northwest.
Cooper jumped from a 707 flying at least 250 miles an hour to maintain its height in level flight.
If the initial shock of that kind of atmosphere switch didn't knock him out
There was no atmosphere change, he ordered the pilot to let the doors of thee plane open so he could jump.

Further, there was a guy who claimed to be D. B. Cooper on his deathbed. Maybe that was him, why would you lie when you're about to die? (Yes, there were more people who claimed to be him, but they were all unmasked, if I recall correctly.)

PS: The Discovery Channel made a program about him, it is worth viewing.

edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB_Cooper I was talking about the second person.
CthulhuFhtagn
07-11-2005, 21:37
Why the hell do people call him D.B. Copper? It's Dan Cooper. D.B. Cooper came as a result of some journalist who didn't bother to check the facts.

Incidentally, he's dead.
The Vuhifellian States
07-11-2005, 21:41
Yeah, I remember that documentary.

Didn't they find almost half the money in some lake/stream/water body a huge ammount of distance away?
HC Eredivisie
07-11-2005, 21:48
Yeah, I remember that documentary.

Didn't they find almost half the money in some lake/stream/water body a huge ammount of distance away?
$5000 dollars, read my link:p

Ctul: hmm, yes, but now everybody calls him D. B..
Plator
08-11-2005, 14:11
There was no atmosphere change, he ordered the pilot to let the doors of thee plane open so he could jump.

Further, there was a guy who claimed to be D. B. Cooper on his deathbed. Maybe that was him, why would you lie when you're about to die? (Yes, there were more people who claimed to be him, but they were all unmasked, if I recall correctly.)

PS: The Discovery Channel made a program about him, it is worth viewing.

edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB_Cooper I was talking about the second person.
Can't go by deathbed statements. There was that woman who claimed she was Anastasia Romanov until she died but DNA evidence has proved otherwise. And there was also a guy who said he was Billy the Kid.
Plator
08-11-2005, 14:13
Incidentally, he's dead.

Again according to above poll he is not dead!!! :p