NationStates Jolt Archive


VoIP

Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 04:42
Is anyone here currently using Voice Over IP or anything similar? I've been givent he task of changing over my work's system from analogue to VoIP and was wondering how you guys were finding it, if you use it.
Branin
07-11-2005, 04:44
Voip this fool!:mad:

(What's voip?)
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 05:02
Voip this fool!:mad:

(What's voip?)
Voice Over Internet Protocol, using your broadband connection in place of a conventional phone line.
Branin
07-11-2005, 05:03
Voice Over Internet Protocol, using your broadband connection in place of a conventional phone line.
Ahhhh! I want! But first I ought to get broadband. *sigh*
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 05:17
Ahhhh! I want! But first I ought to get broadband. *sigh*
First you should. Changing over will save my work tonnes each month.
Smunkeeville
07-11-2005, 05:23
Is anyone here currently using Voice Over IP or anything similar? I've been givent he task of changing over my work's system from analogue to VoIP and was wondering how you guys were finding it, if you use it.
my husband's job sometimes involves changing over phone banks to voip they seem to like it.
640-607
07-11-2005, 05:23
If you are looking for VoIP systems I would first ask how many people you are looking to set-up and what kind of system you have in place. There are a coulpe of options out there Cisco Systems has a variety of stuff, Avia--or Avya maybe-- has some stuff, and Nortel I think still carries VoIP stuff. Personally I am, on some level, farmiliar with the Cisco System's solution--over this last summer i help install a VoIP system at a school with about 200 phones. I really comes down to what are you needs now and what will they be in the future and what sort of system you have.
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 05:30
If you are looking for VoIP systems I would first ask how many people you are looking to set-up and what kind of system you have in place. There are a coulpe of options out there Cisco Systems has a variety of stuff, Avia--or Avya maybe-- has some stuff, and Nortel I think still carries VoIP stuff. Personally I am, on some level, farmiliar with the Cisco System's solution--over this last summer i help install a VoIP system at a school with about 200 phones. I really comes down to what are you needs now and what will they be in the future and what sort of system you have.
We need four phones, plus two fax lines and are currently using some kind of router that goes downstairs to where thre are dozens of offices and stuff.

What we're looking at doing is purchasing a couple VoIP phones and using Engin as our provider. We're in Australia by the way.
Potaria
07-11-2005, 05:31
I had it twice.

The first time I had it, I kept it for about a week. Vonage was the provider. I would've kept it, but their service literally killed my connection speed. The audio over the phone was only marginally clearer than a regular phone, and there was serious lag.

My second provider was Lingo. It was going just fine until they fucked some port addresses and killed the VoIP modem. They wouldn't send us another modem because the warranty was already void (we'd had the service over a month). We cancelled the service, and two months after that, they were still billing us. Scam.

VoIP is great, if your provider isn't overly corrupt and/or shitty.
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 05:38
I had it twice.

The first time I had it, I kept it for about a week. Vonage was the provider. I would've kept it, but their service literally killed my connection speed. The audio over the phone was only marginally clearer than a regular phone, and there was serious lag.

My second provider was Lingo. It was going just fine until they fucked some port addresses and killed the VoIP modem. They wouldn't send us another modem because the warranty was already void (we'd had the service over a month). We cancelled the service, and two months after that, they were still billing us. Scam.

VoIP is great, if your provider isn't overly corrupt and/or shitty.
Three year warranty & we have ultimated broadband. I'm thinking of getting it at home to though.
Potaria
07-11-2005, 05:43
Three year warranty & we have ultimated broadband. I'm thinking of getting it at home to though.

I have unlimited broadband access, too, but the problem with the Vonage service was that it had a really primitive VoIP tech. That's why it totally killed my connection speed, and I have 4mbps dedicated cable.
640-607
07-11-2005, 06:15
I first have to say that while I am a network techinitian my advice is only that and should not be quoted as truth.

Aside form that who manufactured your router. Is it managable and does it support VoIP? Also is 911, or you equiviliant, required. There are some tough rules about that. Also are you looking to keep your local calls on-net. Which means do you want your calls to go to the service provider, Engin, and then come back or do you want to process your own calls. The former is probably more practical in your case but do watch out for what the cost is of iniating the call, that is ususally what makes VoIP expense. Another possiblility to look is does to business that you work for want to converge thier network. Do they want to voice, video, and data on the same network?

Here are some link you might want to take a look a:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/index.html
http://products.nortel.com/go/product_index.jsp
Under the Voice over IP and Circuit Switchin section
http://www.siemens.com/index.jsp?sdc_p=dpCPEofclsmnu0
UpwardThrust
07-11-2005, 07:02
Is anyone here currently using Voice Over IP or anything similar? I've been givent he task of changing over my work's system from analogue to VoIP and was wondering how you guys were finding it, if you use it.
Yeah we use a localy provided system through HickoryTech
They provide the local PBX As well

Personally love it

But We have an insanly stable network (puffs up my chest at this) so awsome performance
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 07:18
I first have to say that while I am a network techinitian my advice is only that and should not be quoted as truth.

Aside form that who manufactured your router. Is it managable and does it support VoIP? Also is 911, or you equiviliant, required. There are some tough rules about that. Also are you looking to keep your local calls on-net. Which means do you want your calls to go to the service provider, Engin, and then come back or do you want to process your own calls. The former is probably more practical in your case but do watch out for what the cost is of iniating the call, that is ususally what makes VoIP expense. Another possiblility to look is does to business that you work for want to converge thier network. Do they want to voice, video, and data on the same network?

Here are some link you might want to take a look a:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/index.html
http://products.nortel.com/go/product_index.jsp
Under the Voice over IP and Circuit Switchin section
http://www.siemens.com/index.jsp?sdc_p=dpCPEofclsmnu0No sure, I've ordered a VoIP router just incase, it supports 000 emergency calls & includes a backup phone line for network problems, our local calls will go through their service because it's only 10c (as opposed to 27c with our current provider), the last one I'm not sure about. I know we've had some network problem lately, due to corporate expansion and more users accessing our dataservers. But this is more because we need new servers then the network itself, which appears to be doing just fine. Plus, I think I should probally looking into upping our Broadband from Kickass Level to Uber Kickass Level, or whatever they call it. That and I need to get soem new servers in. Those are my next two projects after soughting out the VoIP situation.
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 07:20
Yeah we use a localy provided system through HickoryTech
They provide the local PBX As well

Personally love it

But We have an insanly stable network (puffs up my chest at this) so awsome performance
Nice. *submits to the dominent male*
UpwardThrust
07-11-2005, 07:21
Nice. *submits to the dominent male*
The puff up was more out of pride (the network from topography to implementation to administration has been my work for the last 5 years) lol
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 07:42
The puff up was more out of pride (the network from topography to implementation to administration has been my work for the last 5 years) lol
We need soemone like you here, we have a vast maze of cable and wires and hubs in random places and wireless networks in rooms noone use and printers people need attached to computers noone uses, etc. It's a HUUUGE problem right now. I just sent a document to a printer and it came out a fax in another state *shakes head in sheer confusion*
UpwardThrust
07-11-2005, 07:46
We need soemone like you here, we have a vast maze of cable and wires and hubs in random places and wireless networks in rooms noone use and printers people need attached to computers noone uses, etc. It's a HUUUGE problem right now. I just sent a document to a printer and it came out a fax in another state *shakes head in sheer confusion*
That is EXACTLY what my primary focus is

I got a masters in telecommunications and network modeling and simulation

(my other masters is in data security)
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 07:51
That is EXACTLY what my primary focus is

I got a masters in telecommunications and network modeling and simulation

(my other masters is in data security)
Lord, if you lived in Australia I'd so try to get you a job right now. Security is our other big problem. 90% of the computers have the same password and because we often need the same files nearly everything is set to share with no password protection. So in theory you could access one of the 90% of not-so-important with no security computers and use it to pull up files off the important semi-secured ones. Plus there are dozens of other problems.
UpwardThrust
07-11-2005, 07:53
Lord, if you lived in Australia I'd so try to get you a job right now. Security is our other big problem. 90% of the computers have the same password and because we often need the same files nearly everything is set to share with no password protection. So in theory you could access one of the 90% of not-so-important with no security computers and use it to pull up files off the important semi-secured ones. Plus there are dozens of other problems.
Eek ... if I did not have a good paying job (for the area) I would think about it ... always been meaning to move down to austrailia

lol But trying to decide if I want to continue in industry (well I do campus (for 13000 people) networking) or if I want to go back to school and get my doctorate in network modeling

(I have the urge to teach for a living ... condems me to a life of poverty lol but I love the classes I teach right now)

Teaching OSI layer security is a blast
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 07:58
Eek ... if I did not have a good paying job (for the area) I would think about it ... always been meaning to move down to austrailia

lol But trying to decide if I want to continue in industry (well I do campus (for 13000 people) networking) or if I want to go back to school and get my doctorate in network modeling

(I have the urge to teach for a living ... condems me to a life of poverty lol but I love the classes I teach right now)

Teaching OSI layer security is a blast
I'd personally love to teach when I'm older. Right now I'm working a s Trainee Financial Planner whilst studying an Advanced Diploma of Finance. But I'd love to teach something abstract like philosophy. If only I had the time to study and write about it right now.

But there is something so rewarding and pure about teaching. It's sounds funny, but there is. I used to TA Drama, but the poor thing is not as cool as it sounds...
UpwardThrust
07-11-2005, 08:00
I'd personally love to teach when I'm older. Right now I'm working a s Trainee Financial Planner whilst studying an Advanced Diploma of Finance. But I'd love to teach something abstract like philosophy. If only I had the time to study and write about it right now.

But there is something so rewarding and pure about teaching. It's sounds funny, but there is. I used to TA Drama, but the poor thing is not as cool as it sounds...
Yeah been seriously thinking about it

But only 22 so I have time to think lol
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 08:03
Yeah been seriously thinking about it

But only 22 so I have time to think lol
So true. lol

I'd like to teach as an old man. I think that would the life. If I had a nice house, soem money behind me, a sexy wife and a teaching job just for kicks.
UpwardThrust
07-11-2005, 08:06
So true. lol

I'd like to teach as an old man. I think that would the life. If I had a nice house, soem money behind me, a sexy wife and a teaching job just for kicks.
Yeah I already do it part time now (part of my deal for working for the university)
Rotovia-
07-11-2005, 08:09
Yeah I already do it part time now (part of my deal for working for the university)
Nice. Plus it kicks as if you can tell chicks you teach at such and such a university.
UpwardThrust
07-11-2005, 08:14
Nice. Plus it kicks as if you can tell chicks you teach at such and such a university.
Yup ... and every once and a while I get to teach an intro class
That the whole school has to take


So that means about a 50 50 female male ratio :)

(lots better then computer geek teritory)
Harlesburg
07-11-2005, 10:46
I do not have Voip
OceanDrive2
07-11-2005, 17:19
any companies offering VoIP as a stand alone product...(no broadband bill)

My sister got it From Videotron.com at 17$/month

http://www.videotron.com/services/en/telephonie/1_5.jsp