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Posting on another thread got me to thinking how we compare in real life to the personalities we reflect on here. For instance, I was at Woodstock. I was even filmed dancing in the rain, braless, in a wet t-shirt. (If anyone ever finds an old pic of this I'll post it on NS with a "now" photo for comparison.) I also made extra money while in college as a topless go-go dancer in a bar near my campus. (Eut swears he was never there...but...) Now, I'm a mother, grandmother, wife, accountant, and active Catholic who cooks and gardens for grins and giggles. I think I project my actual personality pretty well here on NS.

How would you compare your younger self with your current self? Or, how would you compare your RL self with your NS self?

hmm wow, cool history zooke! *wishes he could have gone to woodstock*
i can't say thats how i see you as per your 'NS personality' per se, but i can't say i can't believe it :p

as for me, my younger self compares to me now quite unfavourably. i'm only 20 but i used to be uber shy, annoying, and spoiled. certain events happened and i believe myself to be wizer (a word i can proudly use thanks to Eut's kind words!), more grateful for what i have, and generally less of a dick nowadays. still a dick but there you go...

'NS personality' vs RL one? well, on here i'm a shitload more talkative than RL. i mean, in reality i can chat and talk with the people i know without much problems (except in the depths of my depression in the last couple of years but thats another issue), but talking to people i don't know kinda freaks me out. on here however, talking to strangers is what i do! :p

guess i'm still a bit messed up and i got some growing up to do, but thats life

For instance, I was at Woodstock. I was even filmed dancing in the rain, braless, in a wet t-shirt. (If anyone ever finds an old pic of this I'll post it on NS with a "now" photo for comparison.) I also made extra money while in college as a topless go-go dancer in a bar near my campus.

Start checking your old pictures, guys:D

Well, I guess my younger self was very vocal about things... always up for a protest, and always always with a point to make about something.

Now... quiet, would be the best word for it. And somewhat happier with the world.

(aaaaahhhhhh... gets you right there, doesn't it ;) )

I wonder how hot Zooke was is

Posting on another thread got me to thinking how we compare in real life to the personalities we reflect on here. For instance, I was at Woodstock. I was even filmed dancing in the rain, braless, in a wet t-shirt. (If anyone ever finds an old pic of this I'll post it on NS with a "now" photo for comparison.) I also made extra money while in college as a topless go-go dancer in a bar near my campus. (Eut swears he was never there...but...) Now, I'm a mother, grandmother, wife, accountant, and active Catholic who cooks and gardens for grins and giggles. I think I project my actual personality pretty well here on NS.

How would you compare your younger self with your current self? Or, how would you compare your RL self with your NS self?
ROFLMAO!!! Zooke, you are a continual source of surprise and amusement! :D

When Woodstock happened, I was a 26-year-old, hell-bent-for-leather Company Commander with the 173rd Airborne Brigade ( Separate ) in Vietnam, doing my best to kick ass and take names, so comparisons probably aren't valid.

Yes, I've mellowed out a bit as I've aged, but as most who know me would attest, I've still got some of the same attitudes now as I did back then. I've always been a pushover for little kids, and that has become even more pronounced as I've acquired kids and then grandkids along the way.

It remains to be seen whether my recent operation will change my attitude toward women, but somehow I don't THINK so! Some things never change! :D

Start checking your old pictures, guys:D
Heh! Heh! Heh! Shhhhh! :D

I wonder how hot Zooke was is
On a scale from one to ten where one is your Aunt Zelda and ten is your favorite hottie: about a nine! :D

I was a very dumb kid. Didn 't listen to anyone, no matter how wise they may have been. Drank too much, did all kinds of drugs, and basically went no where until I wrecked my motorcycle, and almost died.

I must have hit my head just right, because I have been a changed person ever since. I'll still smoke pot, but won't touch anything else ever again. I don't drink everyday anymore. (I drink about once a week, maybe twice, or maybe not at all)

And when someone wiser than I speaks, I listen intently, instead of thinking I'm Albert Einstein.

Heh...I find it difficult to compare myself to when I was younger. I had personal problems that I am reluctant to discuss here.

Anyway, my NS personality is pretty identical to my real-life personality. I have moments filled with weird randomness and crude sex jokes in real life too. (usually when drunk, but not always :p) And I also have a serious side that I bring out in debates, etc. Generally, in real-life, I can talk to anyone that is willing to speak to me. I actually like talking to strangers. If I want to, I can make friends quite easily.

There is a side of me that I don't usually show on here, though. I'm a selective introvert. There are times when I deliberately avoid social contact; including NS. Sometimes I like to shut myself away for a couple of days, maybe longer, and immerse myself in music, or whatever works. The problem is that I can't usually do this and sometimes I get stuck in an inbetween-world where I have to interact but am unwilling to. In those instances, I guess I come across as really shy, or something....not quite sure how I appear on the outside there. Sometimes I just get sick of people, I think. :p

I was a very dumb kid. Didn 't listen to anyone, no matter how wise they may have been. Drank too much, did all kinds of drugs, and basically went no where until I wrecked my motorcycle, and almost died.

I must have hit my head just right, because I have been a changed person ever since. I'll still smoke pot, but won't touch anything else ever again. I don't drink everyday anymore. (I drink about once a week, maybe twice, or maybe not at all)

And when someone wiser than I speaks, I listen intently, instead of thinking I'm Albert Einstein.
You have learned of the Pathway of Wisdom, Grasshopper. See that your foot continues on it. :D

Sometimes I just get sick of people, I think. :p
Join the club! My own response to that sickness is to become a bit billigerent, though. :D

Join the club! My own response to that sickness is to become a bit billigerent, though. :D

Hehe. I find that belligerence takes far too much effort. :)

I wonder how hot Zooke was is

I never was all that good looking, but I had a mass of dark curly hair, huge eyes, and in relief I looked kinda like a coconut tree (big boobs and long legs). Now I still have the big boobs (good for sleepy grandkiddies to lay their heads on) and long legs, but I have added some tonage onto the "tree trunk". I'm serious about finding that pic. I've googled and googled and can't find it, but if someone does and sends it to me I would be forever appreciative. It should be out there somewhere cause the video clip seems to make it in every documentary ever made about Woodstock...much to my kid's embarrassment and my grandkids amusement.

It should be out there somewhere cause the video clip seems to make it in every documentary ever made about Woodstock...much to my kid's embarrassment and my grandkids amusement.

Come to think of it...I have a vague recollection of something like that...might be wrong, though.

On a scale from one to ten where one is your Aunt Zelda and ten is your favorite hottie: about a nine! :D

You big liar!! Anyway, back to topic. Compare yourself with your "other" self.

Now I still have the big boobs (good for sleepy grandkiddies to lay their heads on).

How about sleepy 22 year olds? ;)

How about sleepy 22 year olds? ;)

Considering my oldest granddaughter is 18 and started college this fall....

Considering my oldest granddaughter is 18 and started college this fall....

I don't follow. Are you saying it's okay for me to do that or it's not okay for me to do that?

I don't follow. Are you saying it's okay for me to do that or it's not okay for me to do that?

I'm saying that I have a granddaughter that should be way more interesting.:p

I'm saying that I have a granddaughter that should be way more interesting.:p

You'd set your granddaughter up with someone like me?

Pixplz.

You'd set your granddaughter up with someone like me?

I let her make her own choices. She has good taste.

I let her make her own choices. She has good taste.

Ah. Well, I appreciate the sentiment. I'd still like to take that nap, though. ;)

I'm glad to say that I'm the same cruel, sadistic, sarcastic, egotistical f***tard IRL as I am here. However, I'm also more introverted and talk a lot less. As in, I have to clear my throat every time I speak because of not having spoken for such a long time. :p

Edit: Czardas describes me in a nutshell (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9892466&postcount=54)

I think I'm a little less crazy and random on NS than I am IRL. A lot of times people probably think that the only real passions I have are debating politics, abortion, and religion....but there's more to me than a frighteningly liberal pro-choice Catholic girl still considering entering the convent.

There are some, however, that always seem to bring out the silly in me here, and not surprisingly they're probably the ones I love the most [/sentimentality]. Czardas, Branin (of late, at least), Kejott (in the old days), Fiddlebottoms....they probably see more of what I'm really like than anybody else, except they somehow cut the bitch out of the mix.

I can't wait to get a chance to meet some people IRL and let 'em see what I'm really like.....and then prove that I'm also TOTALLY as pretty as I say I am.
(Which reminds me, Smunkeeville said she might be in my area in January, I'd be excited if she were the first one)

I'm glad to say that I'm the same cruel, sadistic, sarcastic, egotistical f***tard IRL as I am here. However, I'm also more introverted and talk a lot less. As in, I have to clear my throat every time I speak because of not having spoken for such a long time. :p
Now this raises a question. Why would an Anti-Sexual click on a thread that claims to be about "topless dancing"?
I think your resolve is weakening.

Simonist'](Which reminds me, Smunkeeville said she might be in my area in January, I'd be excited if she were the first one)

What is your area?

You big liar!! Anyway, back to topic. Compare yourself with your "other" self.
I lie not! I have the picture, remember! Mwahahahaha! :D

Well, considering that I was raised a Jehovah's Witness and stayed one until about 11 years ago, I'd say I'm a touch different today. :D

I'm far less conservative, far less dogmatic--and the two do not necessarily go hand in hand--and far more accepting of people. I distrust anyone who claims to have "truth" as though there is only one to have, and I'm very careful of discovering the context in which statements are made. I'm far more politically active and love a good honest political argument--talking points of any stripe frustrate me to no end. That's related to my renunciation of dogma in general. I'm much more likely to admit when I'm wrong and to be self-deprecating in my humor.

I let her make her own choices. She has good taste.
Which obviously includes Sdaeriji out! :D

What is your area?
The Kansas City metro area, I'm on the Kansas side. But pretty much I own all the cities in Kansas, 'cause I've got either somebody to stay with it's not a very far drive. So like, anybody in Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, or Nebraska I usually try to convince to come in to me......unfortunately, most of those members are the quintessential "Bible belt" folks *cough*Smunkee*cough*

Simonist']The Kansas City metro area, I'm on the Kansas side. But pretty much I own all the cities in Kansas, 'cause I've got either somebody to stay with it's not a very far drive. So like, anybody in Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, or Nebraska I usually try to convince to come in to me......unfortunately, most of those members are the quintessential "Bible belt" folks *cough*Smunkee*cough*

Aerou is in the KC area. You should arrange something with her.

Aerou is in the KC area. You should arrange something with her.
Hmmm....I don't think I've had much interaction with her. I guess it depends on how likely we'd be to try to kill one another.....

Simonist']Hmmm....I don't think I've had much interaction with her. I guess it depends on how likely we'd be to try to kill one another.....

Well she's a frighteningly liberal pro-choice Jewish girl.

You have learned of the Pathway of Wisdom, Grasshopper. See that your foot continues on it. :D
The path to the Darkside is the easiest, and should therefore be avoided at all costs.

Well she's a frighteningly liberal pro-choice Jewish girl.
Hmmm.......maybe I oughta track her down (figuratively speaking, of course).

Thanks.

Simonist']There are some, however, that always seem to bring out the silly in me here, and not surprisingly they're probably the ones I love the most [/sentimentality]. Czardas, Branin (of late, at least), Kejott (in the old days), Fiddlebottoms....they probably see more of what I'm really like than anybody else, except they somehow cut the bitch out of the mix.
No, I've seen that part, too. :p

Simonist']
I can't wait to get a chance to meet some people IRL and let 'em see what I'm really like.....and then prove that I'm also TOTALLY as pretty as I say I am.
Oh, don't worry, I trust you there. ;)

Now this raises a question. Why would an Anti-Sexual click on a thread that claims to be about "topless dancing"?
I think your resolve is weakening.
Actually, I didn't click on it until after reading the original post caption (the text it displays on your screen when you pass the mouse over the thread)...

Damn. I'm still my young self. Oh, well.

Actually, I didn't click on it until after reading the original post caption (the text it displays on your screen when you pass the mouse over the thread)...
Sure . . .
Don't worry for the moment, but some day I'm going to get really, really bored, and on that day I am going to drag you out of the closet kicking and screaming. Me and my good friend Puberty are coming for you Czardas, we'll defeat your Anti-Sexualism yet!

Okay, that sounded really bad. So, ignore the creepy part of it and focus on something else. Like that penny over there!

No, I've seen that part, too. :p


Oh, don't worry, I trust you there. ;)
When have I ever gone bitch on you?

And besides, you're probably nosy enough to have visited my "homepage" and checked out all the pictures of me. That's just the kind of person I imagine you to be.....the Snooper.

Sure . . .
Don't worry for the moment, but some day I'm going to get really, really bored, and on that day I am going to drag you out of the closet kicking and screaming. Me and my good friend Puberty are coming for you Czardas, we'll defeat your Anti-Sexualism yet!
Oh, please, PLEASE let me be there for that!

In a mini-skirt and corset.

.................

Hey, I'm just trying to help. It could work.

Sure . . .
Don't worry for the moment, but some day I'm going to get really, really bored, and on that day I am going to drag you out of the closet kicking and screaming. Me and my good friend Puberty are coming for you Czardas, we'll defeat your Anti-Sexualism yet!

Okay, that sounded really bad. So, ignore the creepy part of it and focus on something else. Like that penny over there!
I'm sure it'll go away. After all, it's only limited to conventional stuff. :p

Simonist']Oh, please, PLEASE let me be there for that!

In a mini-skirt and corset.

.................

Hey, I'm just trying to help. It could work.
No, you'd be far too distracting to Fiddlebottoms and his friend whatever-its-name-was...Pew something... ;)

No, you'd be far too distracting to Fiddlebottoms and his friend whatever-its-name-was...Pew something... ;)
Actually, Puberty's the one that got me INTO those kinds of clothes, if you must know.

And Fiddle can wear blinders, for all I care. This is for the good of.....well, you. And us. But mostly us.

Simonist']Oh, please, PLEASE let me be there for that!

In a mini-skirt and corset.

.................

Hey, I'm just trying to help. It could work.
Yes, we shall overcome his resistance together!

I'm sure it'll go away. After all, it's only limited to conventional stuff.
I think I saw your list of conventional stuff, I believe it covered everything up to the Fourth month of the 120 Days of Sodom, and I found the Fourth month to really be the weakest part of a rather dimly wrought story. Nah, we'll bring you into line with at least the Necrophiles, maybe even level you out to some playful perversions.
However, I cannot go on along this train of thought, as tipping my hand to soon may well doom my endeavours.

Simonist']Actually, Puberty's the one that got me INTO those kinds of clothes, if you must know.

And Fiddle can wear blinders, for all I care. This is for the good of.....well, you. And us. But mostly us.
Why will turning towards a more conventional sexuality be better for me? Or us? Well, maybe us, but why me?

I think I saw your list of conventional stuff, I believe it covered everything up to the Fourth month of the 120 Days of Sodom, and I found the Fourth month to really be the weakest part of a rather dimly wrought story. Nah, we'll bring you into line with at least the Necrophiles, maybe even level you out to some playful perversions.
However, I cannot go on along this train of thought, as tipping my hand to soon may well doom my endeavours.
Well, conventional stuff is limited to normal intercourse, oral sex, anal sex, necrophilia, bestiality, sodomy, group sex, rape, pedophilia, BDSM, etc. I'm fine with most other things, however. ;)

Why will turning towards a more conventional sexuality be better for me? Or us? Well, maybe us, but why me?
Once I properly indoctrinate you, I can then take you away. I can't hermit away somebody on my property who's going to put dangerous anti-sexual ideas into the heads of my children, and you know you'd do it whether or not you ever met them. They'd be all "Why doesn't Uncle Czardas ever have girls over?" and I can't just keep answering "Because he's not a pretty man", because shit, that could be a lie. I don't know.

Actually, it's so that with all this verbal intercourse, I can feel just a TAD more accomplished, and you can start to believe that women have a purpose in life -- to make you happy.

And I set back my own gender by at least fifty years......

Simonist']Oh, please, PLEASE let me be there for that!

In a mini-skirt and corset.

.................

Hey, I'm just trying to help. It could work.
Well, in that case, I'm asexual too! Help me? :D

Simonist']Once I properly indoctrinate you, I can then take you away. I can't hermit away somebody on my property who's going to put dangerous anti-sexual ideas into the heads of my children, and you know you'd do it whether or not you ever met them. They'd be all "Why doesn't Uncle Czardas ever have girls over?" and I can't just keep answering "Because he's not a pretty man", because shit, that could be a lie. I don't know.
If he is too pretty, you could always remove a portion of his face with a hot iron. There might be some questions, but those could probably be smoothed over by pointing out that he is Canadian, after all.
Of course, even the Phantom of the Opera had some luck with women, but then he also had a dress sense that I doubt Czardas possesses.
Simonist']Actually, it's so that with all this verbal intercourse, I can feel just a TAD more accomplished, and you can start to believe that women have a purpose in life -- to make you happy.

And I set back my own gender by at least fifty years......
I wish I had a gender based time machine. It seems that White males will just have to stay in the present, while the blacks and women and gays get to be sent back 4-5 decades all the time.

Well, in that case, I'm asexual too! Help me? :D
Sigh.....yeah, yeah, at least you're in my country. I'll be right over.

Simonist']Once I properly indoctrinate you, I can then take you away. I can't hermit away somebody on my property who's going to put dangerous anti-sexual ideas into the heads of my children, and you know you'd do it whether or not you ever met them. They'd be all "Why doesn't Uncle Czardas ever have girls over?" and I can't just keep answering "Because he's not a pretty man", because shit, that could be a lie. I don't know.
LOL... Although if it would come to that, I never thought of you as an older sister (do you have any siblings?), let alone of mine (adopted). You always seemed like the one female character out of the group of five questors going off to slay the evil dragon/rescue the kidnapped ruler/find the missing sword, and the one who is always smarter and a far better leader than the other male characters, who invariably engages in much verbal sparring with everyone (especially me as the hero, of course;)), and makes everyone else feel incompetent. You know what kind of character I mean.

Simonist']Actually, it's so that with all this verbal intercourse, I can feel just a TAD more accomplished, and you can start to believe that women have a purpose in life -- to make you happy.
Happiness? What's that? :confused:

If he is too pretty, you could always remove a portion of his face with a hot iron. There might be some questions, but those could probably be smoothed over by pointing out that he is Canadian, after all.
Of course, even the Phantom of the Opera had some luck with women, but then he also had a dress sense that I doubt Czardas possesses.
I have stated that I am sadistic. Not masochistic. There is a distinction. ;)

I have stated that I am sadistic. Not masochistic. There is a distinction. ;)
No one said you had to enjoy it, just that people would assume it perfectly natural.
The average USian knows about as much as Canadians as someone who doesn't know a lot about something. Once done, its relatively painless, I have been lead to understand, and aside from having to wear a mask all the time, you'd hardly notice it.

No one said you had to enjoy it, just that people would assume it perfectly natural.
Oh, I see. You want another generation of kids to grow up believing that Canadians are all born with half their face chopped off. Worse than the 18-year-old cashiers who'd never seen a cabbage.


The average USian knows about as much as Canadians as someone who doesn't know a lot about something.
You stole that from the Series of Unfortunate Events books, didn't you? :p

Once done, its relatively painless, I have been lead to understand, and aside from having to wear a mask all the time, you'd hardly notice it.
Hell, I already wear a mask all the time, because it looks more sinister with the black robes, clawed fingers, red eyes etc. Just an image thing. I'm used to that.

LOL... Although if it would come to that, I never thought of you as an older sister (do you have any siblings?), let alone of mine (adopted). You always seemed like the one female character out of the group of five questors going off to slay the evil dragon/rescue the kidnapped ruler/find the missing sword, and the one who is always smarter and a far better leader than the other male characters, who invariably engages in much verbal sparring with everyone (especially me as the hero, of course;)), and makes everyone else feel incompetent. You know what kind of character I mean.
......I want to change my original post on this thread! This, that Czardas has posted.......this is what I want to go down in history described as. Because EVERYBODY GETS IT!

And, those characters usually have really cool wardrobes.

Simonist']......I want to change my original post on this thread! This, that Czardas has posted.......this is what I want to go down in history described as. Because EVERYBODY GETS IT!

And, those characters usually have really cool wardrobes.
I agree. The number of them I've read about in crappy fantasy/science fiction stories is astounding. And most people here read similar literature (it is a paradise for nerds, isn't it? ;)) so they'll know what we mean. :D

Simonist']Oh, please, PLEASE let me be there for that!

In a mini-skirt and corset.

.................

Hey, I'm just trying to help. It could work.
hmm...I think I may also be trapped in a closet of anti-sexualism. Care to drag me out with whips, handcuffs, and body frosting;)

Just kidding. Kinda.

hmm...I think I may also be trapped in a closet of anti-sexualism. Care to drag me out with whips, handcuffs, and body frosting;)

Just kidding. Kinda.
How many of the people who feel inclined to respond in this fashion have actually seen the picture of me in my profile or gone to my homepage?

If none....that's weird.

hmm...I think I may also be trapped in a closet of anti-sexualism. Care to drag me out with whips, handcuffs, and body frosting;)

Just kidding. Kinda.
You're into that kind of conventional stuff? I wonder why nobody ever does anything really original. Like the time I.... *static* ...a porcelain.... *more static* ...large number of.... *further static* ...pails of blood and.... *static continues* ...most fun I've ever had.

:p

Simonist']How many of the people who feel inclined to respond in this fashion have actually seen the picture of me in my profile or gone to my homepage?

If none....that's weird.
I have. And strangely enough I seem to be the only one who's not burning with desire for you. :p

It certainly says a lot.... ;)

Czardas, you're anti-sexual!? *has heart attack and dies* :p

Simonist, saw your home page, hot.....is an understatement. :D

I have. And strangely enough I seem to be the only one who's not burning with desire for you. :p

It certainly says a lot.... ;)

Her homepage didn't do anything for me either. But, I'm operating under other imperatives. I got a brief thrill watching Eut hop away from his webcam on a walker when he had a broken leg. ewww.... Now, please folks, give us an insight into your RL self, or, for you older NSers, how have you matured and changed?

The path to the Darkside is the easiest, and should therefore be avoided at all costs.
Wise, you have become. Wiser still, shall you be. :D

Simonist']How many of the people who feel inclined to respond in this fashion have actually seen the picture of me in my profile or gone to my homepage?

If none....that's weird.
yeah, I felt the need to put in the stereotypical response to your post. and no, I haven't seen your picture.

You're into that kind of conventional stuff? I wonder why nobody ever does anything really original. Like the time I.... *static* ...a porcelain.... *more static* ...large number of.... *further static* ...pails of blood and.... *static continues* ...most fun I've ever had.

so you've been to a Gwar concert too?


anyway, on topic...I've changed alot in a fairly short time. I went from being almost mousey and very quiet to pretty outgoing. Went from hating people to really enjoying being with people and am slowly working on my trust issues (very very slowly). I'm pretty proud of the changes...some of them took alot of work.

Well, I went from a strict religious upbringing to a top science college, too young; and reacted in time-honoured fashion by becoming a punk, drinking far too much and taking a lot of drugs. So I got kicked out of there on the entirely unreasonable grounds that I'd failed all my exams and not handed in any of my lab assignments. At about the same time, my body decided it had had enough alcohol for the next few years, so I pretty much stopped drinking for a long time, though the drugs continued for another 15 years or so ....

And now ... well I got lucky a few years back and am now a statistician, pulling in a decent enough wedge. I'm a happily married family man living in a nice house in a small town in the Weald of Kent. Quiet usually, though talkative enough on technical subjects, with close friends or down the pub, I now do drugs only once in a blue moon. Boring as hell, basically.

I walk with a limp following a dismal failure to pass basic motorcycle training a couple of years back.

Whether or not I come across differently in real life to here on NS, I have no idea. (Though I doubt many on NS have spotted the limp.) But I suspect I post too sporadically for anyone to form much of an impression of me.

Simonist']Sigh.....yeah, yeah, at least you're in my country. I'll be right over.
YAAAAYYYY! Just be quiet when you come in, cause if my wife wakes up, were both in big trouble! ;)

~EDIT~ Wait a minute! Why the sigh? Geez, talk about a self esteem killer.:(

Czardas, you're anti-sexual!? *has heart attack and dies* :p
At the moment, yes... ;) Mwahahaha!


Simonist, saw your home page, hot.....is an understatement. :D
Next on TSS's Program of Stating the Blatantly Obvious:

Oak trees are plants!
The sky is blue!
Birds have feathers!
(etc.)

Next on TSS's Program of Stating the Blatantly Obvious:

Oak trees are plants!
The sky is blue!
Birds have feathers!
(etc.)
You stole that from me! Give it back! Mommy!

Well, I went from a strict religious upbringing to a top science college, too young; and reacted in time-honoured fashion by becoming a punk, drinking far too much and taking a lot of drugs. So I got kicked out of there on the entirely unreasonable grounds that I'd failed all my exams and not handed in any of my lab assignments. At about the same time, my body decided it had had enough alcohol for the next few years, so I pretty much stopped drinking for a long time, though the drugs continued for another 15 years or so ....

And now ... well I got lucky a few years back and am now a statistician, pulling in a decent enough wedge. I'm a happily married family man living in a nice house in a small town in the Weald of Kent. Quiet usually, though talkative enough on technical subjects, with close friends or down the pub, I now do drugs only once in a blue moon. Boring as hell, basically.

I walk with a limp following a dismal failure to pass basic motorcycle training a couple of years back.

Whether or not I come across differently in real life to here on NS, I have no idea. (Though I doubt many on NS have spotted the limp.) But I suspect I post too sporadically for anyone to form much of an impression of me.

No, you have impressed me several times. I usually enjoy your posts. Though I never did the drugs and drinking thing, I used to "tease" to advance. When women finally became respected in the workforce, I was able to go on my capabilites and intelligence. It's amazing how much we evolve...especially after we start having families. Nothing like a mortgage payment and a kid needing new shoes to ground you real quick.

Simonist']How many of the people who feel inclined to respond in this fashion have actually seen the picture of me in my profile or gone to my homepage?

If none....that's weird.
I gave you a nine, if that answers your question. :fluffle:

Wise, you have become. Wiser still, shall you be. :D
With teachers like you, Eut, theres no limit to the height of me achievement!

I gave you a nine, if that answers your question. :fluffle:
7.5 here, but it's equivalent factoring in the anti-sexualism.

Either way, anyone who gets above a 6 from me should consider themselves in possession of a body to be proud of... :p (so far, the number of NS females above 6 is at 4 and counting.)

Simonist']How many of the people who feel inclined to respond in this fashion have actually seen the picture of me in my profile or gone to my homepage?

If none....that's weird.

I saw your photo. Looks like a drag queen with a ton of makeup on. What else can I say?

7.5 here, but it's equivalent factoring in the anti-sexualism.

Either way, anyone who gets above a 6 from me should consider themselves in possession of a body to be proud of... :p (so far, the number of NS females above 6 is at 4 and counting.)
I didnt see a body, just a face. Am I lookin at the wrong pic?
And as for the women on NS, I actually havent seen any pics yet, except that one, so I can't judge.

I saw your photo. Looks like a drag queen with a ton of makeup on. What else can I say?

You claim to have a boyfriend who is going to set you up on a Virginia estate when you get married. So why are you advertising on "screw me" websites?

You claim to have a boyfriend who is going to set you up on a Virginia estate when you get married. So why are you advertising on "screw me" websites?
Listen, Troll. We don't like people like you here. We don't want to talk to you, or listen to you, or read your posts. So go away. I think I speak for everyone, and if not, people are free to post that they actually hope you stay and contribute.

I didnt see a body, just a face. Am I lookin at the wrong pic?
And as for the women on NS, I actually havent seen any pics yet, except that one, so I can't judge.
There's a thread full of them somewhere out there. (Like, at the top of the forum, titled "NS Player Info".)

Next on TSS's Program of Stating the Blatantly Obvious:

Oak trees are plants!
The sky is blue!
Birds have feathers!
(etc.)
Water is wet
Ice is cold
Snow is white
Czardas is gay:p ;) :D

No, you have impressed me several times. I usually enjoy your posts. Though I never did the drugs and drinking thing, I used to "tease" to advance.
That always struck me as a legitmate tactic in the face of men using the 'old boy' network to advance themselves. Kind of like judo to disarm a tooled up opponent.

When women finally became respected in the workforce, I was able to go on my capabilites and intelligence.
In passing, I have noticed in recent years that my previous preference for female colleagues and bosses, on the grounds they generally had to be more capable than males to gain the same promotion (or at least be fun at the teasing thing), is no longer such a reliable rule of thumb. Which I guess is a good thing, in a back-handed sort of way.

It's amazing how much we evolve...especially after we start having families. Nothing like a mortgage payment and a kid needing new shoes to ground you real quick.
That and realising that it is actually possible to screw up a life without meaning to. (Like, duh - for a supposedly bright chap I always was slow on the uptake.)

But I was fairly well grounded already on the need to earn a living - one of the benefits of a poor childhood. Even when I was stoned for months on end, I still held down my job. I even managed to study part-time as well, and hence my current trade.

(Thanks for the compliment, BTW.)

There's a thread full of them somewhere out there. (Like, at the top of the forum, titled "NS Player Info".)
Hey, your right, I forgot about them. There are some hot women in here! Even Steph, the evil Canadian is hot! DAMN! (just kiddin Steph. your not Canadian! :D )

Czardas is gay:p ;) :D
Pretty close. Try "sarcastic" or "egotistical". As a minor side note, I have never been attracted to a guy.

I also have never been attracted to a girl.

I also have never been attracted to an animal, zombie, infant, elderly person, smilie, weapon, piece of furniture, or other object. ^_^

Pretty close. Try "sarcastic" or "egotistical". As a minor side note, I have never been attracted to a guy.

I also have never been attracted to a girl.

I also have never been attracted to an animal, zombie, infant, elderly person, smilie, weapon, piece of furniture, or other object. ^_^
I don't believe you. Everyone has been attracted to a piece of furniture at one point or another.

Listen, Troll. We don't like people like you here. We don't want to talk to you, or listen to you, or read your posts. So go away. I think I speak for everyone, and if not, people are free to post that they actually hope you stay and contribute.

She has been begging for people to view her picture and tell her what they thought. I did. It gets old when you're trying to have a decent discussion and someone monopolizes it with posts aimed at garnering compliments and flirting with a guy who professes no sexual tendancies.. I gave her a woman's view instead of a drooling horny man's view. Face it she needs a wakeup call unless you're a internet perv who is incouranging her. I thought all views and opinions were welcome here but obviously not. But I'll take your suggestion and go do something else.

She has been begging for people to view her picture and tell her what they thought. I did. It gets old when you're trying to have a decent discussion and someone monopolizes it with posts aimed at garnering compliments and flirting with a guy who professes no sexual tendancies.. I gave her a woman's view instead of a drooling horny man's view. Face it she needs a wakeup call unless you're a internet perv who is incouranging her. I thought all views and opinions were welcome here but obviously not. But I'll take your suggestion and go do something else.
1) It's her thread
2)Your being an immature ass
3)Your being rude
4)Opinions are welcome when they are offered in a manner that is respectful of others.
5)I'm married, but that doesn't mean I can't look
6)She's hot, and I think your jealous.
7)BYE!

She has been begging for people to view her picture and tell her what they thought. I did. It gets old when you're trying to have a decent discussion and someone monopolizes it with posts aimed at garnering compliments and flirting with a guy who professes no sexual tendancies.. I gave her a woman's view instead of a drooling horny man's view. Face it she needs a wakeup call unless you're a internet perv who is incouranging her. I thought all views and opinions were welcome here but obviously not. But I'll take your suggestion and go do something else.
Harsh much?

I think so.

Saying, "She looks like a drag queen with a bunch of makeup." sounds to me like flamebait, or even flaming.

And this, "You claim to have a boyfriend who is going to set you up on a Virginia estate when you get married. So why are you advertising on "screw me" websites?" sounds a bit like a personal attack, but then again, who am I to say that.

She hasn't been begging for people to look at her, she was asking if anyone has, and if she wants to flirt with Czardas then let her.:)

She hasn't been begging for people to look at her, she was asking if anyone has, and if she wants to flirt with Czardas then let her.:)
I don't mind as long as we both know it's just harmless fun. Don't take this forum so seriously! Please! :rolleyes:

She hasn't been begging for people to look at her, she was asking if anyone has, and if she wants to flirt with Czardas then let her.:)
And I would add "Who doesn't want to flirt with Czardas?"
Also, its not very good policy for a n00b to try and take on a rather well known poster. Especially when said known person is a female on a forum filled with creepy perverts.

I don't mind as long as we both know it's just harmless fun. Don't take this forum so seriously! Please! :rolleyes:
As much as it personally pains me to say it, Czardas is right. I'm a straight married male, and Czardas is an asexual wierdo, but that doesn't mean we can't flirt. (might be creepy, but hey, welcome to the interweb)

And I would add "Who doesn't want to flirt with Czardas?"
ROFL! :p

As much as it personally pains me to say it, Czardas is right. I'm a straight married male, and Czardas is an asexual wierdo, but that doesn't mean we can't flirt. (might be creepy, but hey, welcome to the interweb)Which reminds me, are you free tomorrow evening?... :p

(j/k)

Which reminds me, are you free tomorrow evening?... :p

(j/k)
I would be, if you weren't kidding, big boy! :fluffle:

A lot of people seem to say that kind of thing to me actually. I once in jest asked another NSer out, and they agreed....I thought of RPing the encounter or playing it out on IM or IRC.

I would be, if you weren't kidding, big boy! :fluffle:Now, that is disturbingly funny.....



Keep up the good work! :D

A lot of people seem to say that kind of thing to me actually. I once in jest asked another NSer out, and they agreed....I thought of RPing the encounter or playing it out on IM or IRC.Now that would be funny and something I'd like to watch/take part in.:p

1) It's her thread
2)Your being an immature ass
3)Your being rude
4)Opinions are welcome when they are offered in a manner that is respectful of others.
5)I'm married, but that doesn't mean I can't look
6)She's hot, and I think your jealous.
7)BYE!

Uh, actually, it's my thread. I, by nature, am an analyst and statistician, and had hoped that this thread would give me some insight into the folks on here. By revealing a little known secret to a bunch of people who I will never meet, I had hoped to encourage others to open up and let others really get to know them. (and I really, really, really want a link or a pic of my Woodstock debut...for my hubby for Christmas of course :D ). Anyway, at risk of getting slammed, Arotique kind of said, in a blunt way, what a lot of us women are probably thinking. In case you didn't notice, all of the females quit posting, myself included, when she hijacked the thread to flirt. And this isn't the first time I've left a thread for this reason. I'm not trying to be overly critical, or to tell others how to live their lives, but Arotique really didn't deserve the response he got. And, if Arotique is who I think they are, they are far from a n00b. That said and out of the way, I hope, feed my inquisitive nature and spill it!!

Uh, actually, it's my thread. I, by nature, am an analyst and statistician, and had hoped that this thread would give me some insight into the folks on here. By revealing a little known secret to a bunch of people who I will never meet, I had hoped to encourage others to open up and let others really get to know them. (and I really, really, really want a link or a pic of my Woodstock debut...for my hubby for Christmas of course :D ). Anyway, at risk of getting slammed, Arotique kind of said, in a blunt way, what a lot of us women are probably thinking. In case you didn't notice, all of the females quit posting, myself included, when she hijacked the thread to flirt. And this isn't the first time I've left a thread for this reason. I'm not trying to be overly critical, or to tell others how to live their lives, but Arotique really didn't deserve the response he got. And, if Arotique is who I think they are, they are far from a n00b. That said and out of the way, I hope, feed my inquisitive nature and spill it!!
Its a new rule of reality: Barry's Law. (In honor of the creator of Nationstates)

All threads will ultimately divulge into a flamewar or flirting.

Uh, actually, it's my thread. I, by nature, am an analyst and statistician, and had hoped that this thread would give me some insight into the folks on here. By revealing a little known secret to a bunch of people who I will never meet, I had hoped to encourage others to open up and let others really get to know them. (and I really, really, really want a link or a pic of my Woodstock debut...for my hubby for Christmas of course :D ). Anyway, at risk of getting slammed, Arotique kind of said, in a blunt way, what a lot of us women are probably thinking. In case you didn't notice, all of the females quit posting, myself included, when she hijacked the thread to flirt. And this isn't the first time I've left a thread for this reason. I'm not trying to be overly critical, or to tell others how to live their lives, but Arotique really didn't deserve the response he got. And, if Arotique is who I think they are, they are far from a n00b. That said and out of the way, I hope, feed my inquisitive nature and spill it!!
Sorry, didn't realize it was your thread, and spoke too soon.
As for what "whoever the poster is" I don't care. I also don't care "what a lot of us women are probably thinking" It was rude, distasteful, ignorant, and if it was a known poster hiding behind a puppet, then it was also cowardly and sneaky.
As for the thread hijack, thats a valid point to say something ABOUT THE HIJACK. But nothing excuses ignorance. And any women who is offended because she's joking and having fun in a thread might just need counseling for low self esteem.

~EDIT~ And by the way, if the poster is someone else in disguise, and has a set of balls, they will reveal who they REALLY are, and quit hiding behind puppets. Thats just juvenile.

I'd like to say I've seen a lot, but due to the fact I remember so little...I can't make heads or tails. So I'll be smart and say I've seen very little.

I can't say I've changed much through my teenage years to my adult years...I was never real rebellious...and still very much emotionally led. It's just as easy to make me cry now as it was 15 years ago.

Only thing different is that I live on my own now.

-Asylum Nova

I'd like to say I've seen a lot, but due to the fact I remember so little...I can't make heads or tails. So I'll be smart and say I've seen very little.

I can't say I've changed much through my teenage years to my adult years...I was never real rebellious...and still very much emotionally led. It's just as easy to make me cry now as it was 15 years ago.

Only thing different is that I live on my own now.

-Asylum Nova

I was never what you would call rebellious...I have just always been on the lookout for a way to make money. And if showing my boobs and wiggling my butt would earn me $200-$300 a night, when I was younger I figured "what the heck". If they were willing to part with $1 or $5 to tuck it into my T-bar I was willing to relieve them of their cash. I view things differently now....especially since my figure went south. :p Unlike you, I have never been easy to cry, except when I am angry. I view crying as a weakness, which makes me angrier, and makes me cry harder.

Sorry, didn't realize it was your thread, and spoke too soon.
As for what "whoever the poster is" I don't care. I also don't care "what a lot of us women are probably thinking" It was rude, distasteful, ignorant, and if it was a known poster hiding behind a puppet, then it was also cowardly and sneaky.
As for the thread hijack, thats a valid point to say something ABOUT THE HIJACK. But nothing excuses ignorance. And any women who is offended because she's joking and having fun in a thread might just need counseling for low self esteem.

~EDIT~ And by the way, if the poster is someone else in disguise, and has a set of balls, they will reveal who they REALLY are, and quit hiding behind puppets. Thats just juvenile.

I probably shouldn't have said anything. But, since I have jumped in and stuck one foot in my mouth, I might as well stick the other one in too. First off, I don't know for sure that Aromatique is male, but I have a hunch who it is. You need to note my hunches are usually dead wrong. As for women who are offended, I am offended. I was denied a career in veterinarian medicine because I had the wrong genitalia. I've had to grin and bear it (sometimes bare it) to advance in my career. I once had a subordinate hired at more than what I made, after working for the company for 3 years, because he was male (living with his parents) and would need an income for a future family and I was female (supporting myself) and could find a well-paid husband to support me while I kept house and raised kids. (yeah, I earned a masters for that) They even suggested I consider my assistant as a future husband and breadwinner. So, when a woman thinks her greatest asset is her sexuality and flaunts it as such...not to mention hijack the hell outta my thread...yeah...I'm offended. And as for self esteem...at 54, almost 55, I knock her outta the ball park on looks. Eut was right...I'm at least a 9.

And as for self esteem...at 54, almost 55, I knock her outta the ball park on looks. Eut was right...I'm at least a 9.
AHAHAHAA...I think I just fell in love.


I forgot to mention earlier, the woodstock thing is awesome. I think I may have seen it in one of the documentaries I've seen? maybe? I did look for the picture, but haven't had luck yet. I'll post it if I do find it.

actually, if it is in a documentary, could you maybe get that and get a print of the screen? might not be great quality, but may be worth a shot.

IAnd as for self esteem...at 54, almost 55, I knock her outta the ball park on looks. Eut was right...I'm at least a 9. Ok, looking at myself when I got out of the shower...7.5. Damn!! I hate old age.

AHAHAHAA...I think I just fell in love.


I forgot to mention earlier, the woodstock thing is awesome. I think I may have seen it in one of the documentaries I've seen? maybe? I did look for the picture, but haven't had luck yet. I'll post it if I do find it.

actually, if it is in a documentary, could you maybe get that and get a print of the screen? might not be great quality, but may be worth a shot.
It's just a little 2 or 3 second clip, nothing notable, just a wet girl groovin' to the music. I've seen it a few times on documentaries on TV, but never on the net. I keep hoping someone will find a still shot and pass it on.

As for Woodstock... It was awesome...I have Janis' "Mercedes Benz" as my cell phone ringtone. Hendrix was so obviously stoned but absolutely brilliant. And that was the first time I heard, and fell in love with, Carlos Santanta. I think the video was shot during "Soul Sacrifice". I love music and I have never in my life ever had such an experience!! I saw, heard and experienced them all....Janis Joplin, Jimmi Hendrix, Ravi Shankar, Arlo, Baez, Sly, the Dead, CCR, Cocker, Edgar Winter...so many...all so great.

I was denied a career in veterinarian medicine because I had the wrong genitalia. I've had to grin and bear it (sometimes bare it) to advance in my career. .
I hope you don't think I'd agree with those practices, because I have had female boss's that were way smarter than most men I've met. I just think it was rude what was said, and how it was said.

As for being a 7.5 when ya get outta the shower, don't feel bad, I'm only 26, and I score the same, what with the slight beer belly! :p And don't worry, your attitude knocks you well over 10 in my book! A Corvette isn't worth anything without a good engine to run it! ;)

~EDIT~ In your next post, try to list as many details as you can about that clip. Color of shirt, type of pants or skirt. Hair color, height, weight. I'll find it for ya, damnit! ;)

As for Woodstock... It was awesome...I have Janis' "Mercedes Benz" as my cell phone ringtone. Hendrix was so obviously stoned but absolutely brilliant. And that was the first time I heard, and fell in love with, Carlos Santanta. I think the video was shot during "Soul Sacrifice". I love music and I have never in my life ever had such an experience!! I saw, heard and experienced them all....Janis Joplin, Jimmi Hendrix, Ravi Shankar, Arlo, Baez, Sly, the Dead, CCR, Cocker, Edgar Winter...so many...all so great.
SIGH! I saw Janis Joplin and Jefferson Airplane in concert after I got back from Vietnam, and for awhile there even fancied myself a "Dead head." :D

I keep hoping someone will find a still shot and pass it on.

As for Woodstock... It was awesome...I have Janis' "Mercedes Benz" as my cell phone ringtone. Hendrix was so obviously stoned but absolutely brilliant. And that was the first time I heard, and fell in love with, Carlos Santanta. I think the video was shot during "Soul Sacrifice". I love music and I have never in my life ever had such an experience!! I saw, heard and experienced them all....Janis Joplin, Jimmi Hendrix, Ravi Shankar, Arlo, Baez, Sly, the Dead, CCR, Cocker, Edgar Winter...so many...all so great.
hmm...well, I'll keep up my search :) Also, maybe the documentary is on DVD and you could do something with that?

And Janis...what can I say? lol. Mercedes Benz was the first song I learned the words to...when I was 3. It is my mothers song. That and Kozmic Blues may be my favorite song of all time.

And I wish I could have seen Hendrix "redefine" the national anthem.

I actually might be doing a presentation about woodstock. Would it be okay if I contated you for more information if that ends up happening?

SIGH! I saw Janis Joplin and Jefferson Airplane in concert after I got back from Vietnam, and for awhile there even fancied myself a "Dead head." :D
I always figured you had a little bit of that in ya! ;)

hmm...well, I'll keep up my search :)

I actually might be doing a presentation about woodstock. Would it be okay if I contated you for more information if that ends up happening?

Sure, I'd be glad to pass on whatever I remember. I think one of the most amazing things about Woodstock is that in spite of the huge crowd, lack of facilities, lack of food, crummy weather, and a great lack of anything approaching privacy, there were no murders, no rapes, no fights, no problems of any kind. A baby was even born there. When the announcement of his birth was made, the crowd went wild with cheering. Today, we can't bring together a handful of people with differing cultures, ideologies, politics, races, etc. without a conflict breaking out. We must have been doing something right.

In your next post, try to list as many details as you can about that clip. Color of shirt, type of pants or skirt. Hair color, height, weight. I'll find it for ya, damnit!

I was wearing jeans, t-shirt (white I think), 5'7", weighed about 115 lb, dark (wet) shoulder length curly hair. I was just kind of swaying and dancing with my eyes fixed onto the stage. It was drizzling and cloudy. Good luck and thanks!

I always figured you had a little bit of that in ya! ;)
LOL! Oh you did, did ya? And just what marvelous feat of intellect led you to that conclusion, eh? :D

hmm...well, I'll keep up my search :) Also, maybe the documentary is on DVD and you could do something with that?

And Janis...what can I say? lol. Mercedes Benz was the first song I learned the words to...when I was 3. It is my mothers song. That and Kozmic Blues may be my favorite song of all time.

And I wish I could have seen Hendrix "redefine" the national anthem.

I actually might be doing a presentation about woodstock. Would it be okay if I contated you for more information if that ends up happening?
"Me and Bobby McGee" was my favorite Janis song. What a voice! OMG! :)

Sure, I'd be glad to pass on whatever I remember. I think one of the most amazing things about Woodstock is that in spite of the huge crowd, lack of facilities, lack of food, crummy weather, and a great lack of anything approaching privacy, there were no murders, no rapes, no fights, no problems of any kind. A baby was even born there. When the announcement of his birth was made, the crowd went wild with cheering. Today, we can't bring together a handful of people with differing cultures, ideologies, politics, races, etc. without a conflict breaking out. We must have been doing something right.

I was wearing jeans, t-shirt (white I think), 5'7", weighed about 115 lb, dark (wet) shoulder length curly hair. I was just kind of swaying and dancing with my eyes fixed onto the stage. It was drizzling and cloudy. Good luck and thanks!
From what I heard later from some friends who went, everyone was too stoned to get billigerant! :D

"Everybody must get stoned!" LOL! Thank you, Bob Dylan! :D

From what I heard later from some friends who went, everyone was too stoned to get billigerant! :D

"Everybody must get stoned!" LOL! Thank you, Bob Dylan! :D

Maybe it was the drugs, I think it was more about the peace and love attitude and amazing music. I went in a drug free virgin and I came out a drug free virgin, but I was definitely changed by the experience.

I went in a drug free virgin and I came out a drug free virgin, but I was definitely changed by the experience.
That's gotta be some kind of record for the Guiness Book! I don't know of ANYone who came back from Woodstock a virgin! Heh!

( Good thing I wasn't there, eh? ) :D

That's gotta be some kind of record for the Guiness Book! I don't know of ANYone who came back from Woodstock a virgin! Heh!

( Good thing I wasn't there, eh? ) :D
If you had been there I might have remained a virgin for the rest of my life from the psychological trauma. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!:p

Turning 35 illuminated a whole bunch of stuff for me.
Mostly it illuminated the words to a good song by XTC's Colin Moulding called "Angry Young Men."

"All through my youth
I was shouting and no one would hear;
Blind to the ways of the people who now I hold dear.
It's loud and clear...

The world is full of angry men,
a chip on their shoulders and ideas in their heads.
The world is full of angry young men
who think life owes them something
but you only get out what goes in."

This doesn't mean I don't get angry anymore. Rather, it means that I've learned to pick my battles and bless & release the shit, hurdles, red tape, nonsense and other stuff civilization deals me. I've also learned to occasionally abandon civilization. I was just hiking in my new state (Norse Dakota) in Theodore Roosevelt National Park and saw some of the most beautiful scenery and animals in their wild state (2 bison, 2 antelope, 3 rabbits, 12 wild horses and a herd of what was at least 200 elk).

I was too young to have experienced Woodstock, and I think that many people who claim to have been there may be lying -- this does NOT include Zooke. I don't think it takes a week of mud, drugs and music that needs drugs to sound good to enlighten me -- but that's what was available to those who lived then, and, God bless 'em, they took advantage. So here's to enlightenment, however it's achieved. Whether it's tranquility or heroic doses of psilocybin 'shrooms, everyone needs to have their third eye squegeed clean in order to see what the Hindos via Herman Hesse (in Siddhartha) called "Samsara" -- the great game we think life is.

There. Groovy enough for y'all?

Well, I came upon a child of God
He was walking along the road
And I asked him, Tell where are you going?
This he told me

Said, I'm going down to Yasgur's Farm,
Gonna join in a rock and roll band.
Got to get back to the land and set my soul free.

We are stardust, we are golden,
We are billion year old carbon,
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

Well, then can I walk beside you?
I have come to lose the smog,
And I feel I am I'm a cog in somethin' turning.
And maybe it's the time of year,
But then maybe it's the time of man.
And I don't know who I am,
But life is for learning.

We are stardust, we are golden,
We are billion year old carbon,
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

We are stardust, we are golden,
We are billion year old carbon,
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

By the time we got to Woodstock,
We were half a million strong
And everywhere was a song and a celebration.
And I dreamed I saw the bomber jet planes
Riding shotgun in the sky,
Turning into butterflies
Above our nation.

We are stardust, we are golden,
We are caught in the devils bargain,
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

That's gotta be some kind of record for the Guiness Book! I don't know of ANYone who came back from Woodstock a virgin! Heh!

( Good thing I wasn't there, eh? ) :D
you are a dirty man. I hope to one day be like that.

you are a dirty man. I hope to one day be like that.
Oh, don't worry, you will. ;) :p

Eutrusca is my role model! :D