NationStates Jolt Archive

Step 1: See poll
Step 2: Answer poll
Step 3: Post your opinion and/or experience on the drug
Step 4: PLEASE. Even if you have done it and know talking to people that haven't is pointless.

I see no poll

I see no poll
You have to take the mushrooms to see the poll. Its like one of those far out cosmic things, man!

I see no poll

i didnt see a poll at first either, i thought maybe Esotericain just finished using those magic mushrooms and was seeing polls.

I admit making the poll was difficult. I kept exceeding character limits. The man was holding me down.

But seriously, mushrooms changed my life. I guess you have to pulled out of your perception of reality wholly just once to see everything in a wholyl different light from that point on.

I admit making the poll was difficult. I kept exceeding character limits. The man was holding me down.

But seriously, mushrooms changed my life. I guess you have to pulled out of your perception of reality wholly just once to see everything in a wholyl different light from that point on.
Or maybe you've just lost the functioning of a handful of braincells. That would change your life a bit, I think.

I've tried mushrooms a few times, and had mixed results. When eating a few caps I mostly just thought everything was funny and stared at anything with an optical illusion design on it.

However, when I drank mushroom tea, I got such a weird/painful headache it triggered some sort of panic attack and I was sure that an artery in my brain was going to explode and kill me.

So, overall, my analysis would be....meh.

Or maybe you've just lost the functioning of a handful of braincells. That would change your life a bit, I think.

It is a possibility. But don't be a troll.

I've tried it a couple times. I just thought and/or saw some weird shit, like a waterfall in my stomach and gremlins hiding under a park bench.

I've tried mushrooms a few times, and had mixed results. When eating a few caps I mostly just thought everything was funny and stared at anything with an optical illusion design on it.

However, when I drank mushroom tea, I got such a weird/painful headache it triggered some sort of panic attack and I was sure that an artery in my brain was going to explode and kill me.

So, overall, my analysis would be....meh.

Weird.

The reason I actually made this poll is to figure out a kind of perplexing thing that happens to everyone I know that tries mushrooms. Almost all of my friends did it before I did. And of all of them that have tried it, and they dont necessarily all know each other, they become infatuated with psychedelic rock and class rock and general and become obsessed with studying ancient religions and mysticisms. Metaphysics becomes an area of almost expertise for them.

I found this very weird. I had already been looking at the religions, but I couldn't understand the music. Then I tried them, and guess what? I now have a much more profound understanding of any religion I look at than I did before, and I love the music, just LOVE the music. I guess either its a way of becoming enlightened, or as someone eloquently mentioned it, we're all fucked in the brain somehow.

As an aside question, did anyone that took mushrooms experience what can most objectively be termed "loss of ego" (even though those of you that know what im talking about know its a lot deeper than that)?

Never did them. Although some friends and I once spent a night in vain pursuit of a rumor of someone who had some that I still refer to as "The Great 'Shroom Hunt of 1989"

It is a possibility. But don't be a troll.
You're no fun anymore!

Never did them. Although some friends and I once spent a night in vain pursuit of a rumor of someone who had some that I still refer to as "The Great 'Shroom Hunt of 1989"

What I find the most amusing about shrooms is where everyone gets them from.

I don't know anyone that hasn't gotten them from a "friend of a friend"

I've heard a lot of good things about them, but I really can't spare the braincells for what wouldn't really make up for the loss. I really can't afford to sacrifice my only asset for the hope of altered perception.

You're no fun anymore!

One of the important things I've come to realize from shrooms:

Why do people assume that the reality without the assisance of any drug is any more real than an "altered state"? Chemicals in drugs mimic chemicals already present in your body. Look up DMT. Time is a perfect example of this. Our brain is limited in that it makes time seem like a progression of events, a chronology, whereas time is relative, at one point did not exist (no matter your views on the origins of the universe (well, maybe) ) and time is not a separate entity from space.

People assume reality from what simply comes out to be majority rules, whether the majority is your perception throughout your life or simply that more people see things a certain way (for the other side: see insane people and read "Madness and Civilization"). In the end it may not matter and such thoughts give birth to very abstract and senseless debates, but my point to draw from this is not to ever lull yourself into feeling completely certain of anything, because that is jsut ignorance. Have an open mind always.

It was fucking amazing!

I've done enough drugs. No more. I don't want any more altered perceptions, just this one. People don't need to do drugs to make themselves better people, in fact a lot of times the opposite happens.

I've heard a lot of good things about them, but I really can't spare the braincells for what wouldn't really make up for the loss. I really can't afford to sacrifice my only asset for the hope of altered perception.


ARRRRGHHHH it does not kill brain cells. where the hell did anyone read that? it does no such thing. now tell me marijuana kills brain cells too.

The truth on the matter is that it does no such thing, however a cautionary warning is extended to any developing youngsters out there. Don't take drugs
while you're growing hair on your chest. Prepubescents and developing adolescents that use marijuana have a lot less white matter in their brain when they develop. Apparently it inhibits that.

However, that is the extent of it. Don't fuck with me on this I've been looking into this. Don't give me no gateway drug bullshit, because thats all it is, and not jst from personal experiences. Those studies have very serious flaws, and im not jsut rationalizing. better yet, dont make this a marijuana debate. Yes, I know i was the first one to bring it up. I'm trying to make a point damnit! stop judging me.

I've done enough drugs. No more. I don't want any more altered perceptions, just this one. People don't need to do drugs to make themselves better people, in fact a lot of times the opposite happens.

I agree with your last sentence there. However, for me at least, its all about gaining a better understanding of existence and reality. How can you really truly objectively judge (if such a thing is possible) without first trying to experience as close to everything as you can?

...And of all of them that have tried it, and they dont necessarily all know each other, they become infatuated with psychedelic rock and class rock and general and become obsessed with studying ancient religions and mysticisms. Metaphysics becomes an area of almost expertise for them...I guess either its a way of becoming enlightened, or as someone eloquently mentioned it, we're all fucked in the brain somehow.

I read an article once that documented use of LSD and "magic" mushrooms; it mentioned that it can cause changes in the way one's mind works; mostly subtle, but sometimes severe. I have no idea who wrote it, it was a long time ago (I was in college, so maybe...8 or 9 years ago), so I don't know if the study was scientific or not. The article mentioned that use of either can permanently alter one's view of reality, but in most instances, only with extended use. Some people's physiology, however, may be predisposed to it, so a single use can cause dramatic changes on your perception of reality/the world; this explains the arguments that a person can "just snap and go crazy", or suddenly like Pink Floyd, alternative religions, and tie dye. As long as you don't start wearing bell-bottoms that homeless people can shelter under, you'll probably be alright, though.
It has also been argued that the drugs can merely open one's mind to their full potential- you were already interested in religions, you just had a cool trippy experience on the drug that fueled your already open mind on the subject. If you listened to psychedelic music while partaking in said substances, an enjoyable experience may have enabled you to come to appreciate a music style that you previously "didn't get". I personally still don't understand why I like "One bourbon, one scotch, and one beer", except to say that it brings up pleasant memories from drinking and listening to it, and my subconscious may inadvertantly trigger endorphins to be released. This may be the reason instead.

ARRRRGHHHH it does not kill brain cells. where the hell did anyone read that? it does no such thing. now tell me marijuana kills brain cells too.

I've always heard that at the very least, the heavier drugs did tend to make your brain like swiss cheese.

I read an article once that documented use of LSD and "magic" mushrooms; it mentioned that it can cause changes in the way one's mind works; mostly subtle, but sometimes severe. I have no idea who wrote it, it was a long time ago (I was in college, so maybe...8 or 9 years ago), so I don't know if the study was scientific or not. The article mentioned that use of either can permanently alter one's view of reality, but in most instances, only with extended use. Some people's physiology, however, may be predisposed to it, so a single use can cause dramatic changes on your perception of reality/the world; this explains the arguments that a person can "just snap and go crazy", or suddenly like Pink Floyd, alternative religions, and tie dye. As long as you don't start wearing bell-bottoms that homeless people can shelter under, you'll probably be alright, though.
It has also been argued that the drugs can merely open one's mind to their full potential- you were already interested in religions, you just had a cool trippy experience on the drug that fueled your already open mind on the subject. If you listened to psychedelic music while partaking in said substances, an enjoyable experience may have enabled you to come to appreciate a music style that you previously "didn't get". I personally still don't understand why I like "One bourbon, one scotch, and one beer", except to say that it brings up pleasant memories from drinking and listening to it, and my subconscious may inadvertantly trigger endorphins to be released. This may be the reason instead.

Beautifully said. I wasn't really listening to any music at all on the trip, I was just walking around with people and/or smoking pot... (which was weird to say the least because it didn't affect me at all)

What gets to most people, and somtimes gets to me, is that it could be the deception of enlightenment or mind expansion. But thats a question that can be asked about anything. But does that make it an invalid question? I don't know. You can't ever be "done" asking question or have one giant realization, because life goes on, and with it comes more question and intraspection. There are two ways out: death (possibly a way out, maybe a continuation of life) or a way of thinking similar to that in Buddhism, which is basically ending the allegorical Eros, the primal motivation. When you realize that you dont need to keep searching, that the need to search is a deception in itself, just as mostly everything is, and to accept everything. But most people that have never tried to understand it (they may have tried conceptualizing it but enver understanding it) see it as an escape or tricking your mind into what they consider "ignorant bliss". Whatever, we can't ever possibly know. Consider I'm not even directly stating my beliefs on the matter, although almost anyone can probably guess them just by this paragraph, because it would make it seem like I myself am being ignorant, when I in fact am not. All I can realy say I think is that in the end every choice and belief you can make and hold is as valid as any other. it doesn't matter if the world agrees with you or not, because when you're content, or when you're content in being not content, its the only thing you can really be sure of, in the sense that the reality you know is the reality you should accept.

I've always heard that at the very least, the heavier drugs did tend to make your brain like swiss cheese.

I'm not saying they don't. heavy use of LSD gives you holes in your brain. Literally. Never mind that the parts of the brain burned out are ones never used- the concept still is enough to stop you in your tracks. Or not. It depends on you. =)

I've always heard that at the very least, the heavier drugs did tend to make your brain like swiss cheese.

The number one killer of brain cells remains alcohol. You're pretty much pissing out brain cells every time you get drunk. And if you look at the MRI of an alcoholic you'll see a visible hole right through the center of the brain.

The number one killer of brain cells remains alcohol. You're pretty much pissing out brain cells every time you get drunk. And if you look at the MRI of an alcoholic you'll see a visible hole right through the center of the brain.

I've always found it amusing that the statistically most impairing, addictive, and dangerous drug is the one that's legal. Especially in our holy moral Jesus-loving society. (no offense Christians- your religion remains valid to me, just as every other religion)

Wow. I feel like that should be its own thread. I'm in a thread-starting mood today.

First of all, mescaline and "magic mushrooms" aren't even close to the same thing. But sticking to the thread title, no, I don't like mushrooms. They mess with my emotions too much. I can deal far better on acid.

Actually, the notion that they "kill brain cells" is moronic at best. You loose more brain cells taking a ringer to the head from a doorjam.

My experiences (and there are MANY), were all good. Sometimes I was giddy and talkative. Others I was introspective. But, I've never had a bad experience with them.

First of all, mescaline and "magic mushrooms" aren't even close to the same thing. But sticking to the thread title, no, I don't like mushrooms. They mess with my emotions too much. I can deal far better on acid.

they do pretty much the same thing to you. almsot identical. they both mimic dmt.

acid gives you a "cleaner" sensation, but you already know that. acid mimics dmt better than the other two.

they do pretty much the same thing to you. almsot identical. they both mimic dmt.

acid gives you a "cleaner" sensation, but you already know that. acid mimics dmt better than the other two.

Which makes a HUGE difference.

One of my weirdest experiences was as follows: I would walk across a field, and just after starting across a new me would be just about to cross the field while the first was still crossing. Then as that me crossed there'd be another new me, ad infinitum until there were a million me's crossing the field at once, and I didn't know which version of me was in the right time frame.

That posed a bit of a problem when crossing busy streets.

One of my weirdest experiences was as follows: I would walk across a field, and just after starting across a new me would be just about to cross the field while the first was still crossing. Then as that me crossed there'd be another new me, ad infinitum until there were a million me's crossing the field at once, and I didn't know which version of me was in the right time frame.

That posed a bit of a problem when crossing busy streets.

yeah i remember reading about something like that happening to people. still hasnt happened to me though.

One of my weirdest experiences was as follows: I would walk across a field, and just after starting across a new me would be just about to cross the field while the first was still crossing. Then as that me crossed there'd be another new me, ad infinitum until there were a million me's crossing the field at once, and I didn't know which version of me was in the right time frame.

That posed a bit of a problem when crossing busy streets.

Well, with so many you's, at least you know in some dimensions you made it across that busy street safely. :rolleyes:

I never experienced that, but once I took chickenhead, (a particularly strong type of acid) and got tunnel vision. I literally had no peripheral vision. AND, my vision got all choppy. Like I was watching a stop-motion video or something. I had no fluid vision...just a series of images...it was really weird.

It is in Poitie(SP) which is that Indian Cactus thing so it ain't just shrooms.