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Lets burn other nations flags in the streets of America.

Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:08
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags. How about a UN flag burning party. That way we can protest UN corruption. Have placards that say down with the UN. Maybe UN is the great Satan. What would the world reaction be to such nonsense. Shock and horror im sure....
Fass
05-11-2005, 03:11
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags. How about a UN flag burning party. That way we can protest UN corruption. Have placards that say down with the UN. Maybe UN is the great Satan. What would the world reaction be to such nonsense. Shock and horror im sure....

The same sort of incredulity and ridicule as when you poured wine down the drain and called french fries "Freedom fries."

"Silly yanks!" and that would be that.
Seosavists
05-11-2005, 03:13
go ahead it's mostly americans who have a problem with flag burning. Northern Irish unionists burn our flag all the time in big pyres and no one cares.
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:13
The same sort of incredulity and ridicule as when you poured wine down the drain and called french fries "Freedom fries."

"Silly yanks!" and that would be that.

That was because it was France. What are the French going to do? Get upset? They dont even want to put down there own riots. Clearly they dont get mad at anything.
Super-power
05-11-2005, 03:13
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags.
Ironically, the only proper way to dispose of a flag *is* indeed by burning it.

How about a UN flag burning party. That way we can protest UN corruption. Have placards that say down with the UN. Maybe UN is the great Satan. What would the world reaction be to such nonsense. Shock and horror im sure....
W00t! count me in
*brings the gasoline and lighter*
Dontgonearthere
05-11-2005, 03:14
Iran:
Holy sh*t! Other countries have inflammable flags?! WHY WERENT WE TOLD!
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:14
go ahead it's mostly americans who have a problem with flag burning. Northern Irish unionists burn our flag all the time in big pyres and no one cares.

Ahh yes, no one pays attention in N Ireland. They all just go on there merry ways and are friendly to everyone.
Fass
05-11-2005, 03:15
That was because it was France. What are the French going to do? Get upset? They dont even want to put down there own riots. Clearly they dont get mad at anything.

You're allowed to burn a Swedish flag if you want. I won't get mad. It's just a flag, nothing of importance.
Evil Woody Thoughts
05-11-2005, 03:15
Hmm...how about burning the Union Jack?

No, wait, I forgot Poland!

But no, I can't do that, now can I, because they're members of the "Coalition of the Willing," aka the "Coalition of the let's not do anything except send a couple of token units to Iraq to fight Halliburton's war.":rolleyes:
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:16
You're allowed to burn a Swedish flag if you want. I won't get mad. It's just a flag, nothing of importance.

Well good for your nation. It is also legal to burn it in the good ole USA. But doesnt look stupid of the people doing it Fass? Would you think highly of ones that burned a Swedish flag for a political reason?
Skaladora
05-11-2005, 03:17
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags. How about a UN flag burning party. That way we can protest UN corruption. Have placards that say down with the UN. Maybe UN is the great Satan. What would the world reaction be to such nonsense. Shock and horror im sure....

Well, go ahead and burn Canadian flags all you want.

I'd call you morons, but would be otherwise unaffected. A flag's only a piece of fabric with something embroidered. It takes a whole damn lot more than burning a flag to destroy the symbol it represents.
Fass
05-11-2005, 03:18
Well good for your nation. It is also legal to burn it in the good ole USA.

I meant you had my blessing to do it if it would make you feel better.

But doesnt look stupid of the people doing it Fass? Would you think highly of ones that burned a Swedish flag for a political reason?

I don't think highly of people that burn stuff for political reasons at all. What they burn is of lesser significance, be it effigies, flags, themselves...
Gauthier
05-11-2005, 03:19
If you're going to burn the flags of other countries, then you forfeit the right to bitch about needing a Constitutional Amendment to protect the Stars and Stripes.

:D
The Similized world
05-11-2005, 03:20
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags. How about a UN flag burning party. That way we can protest UN corruption. Have placards that say down with the UN. Maybe UN is the great Satan. What would the world reaction be to such nonsense. Shock and horror im sure....
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't UN corruption & political deficiency primarily caused by America?
America is largely to blame for the current misery in the middle east. If anything, the people of Iran will probably cheer on you for being honest about your intent for once, if you start burning their flag.

Pretty much everyone else would simply shake their heads. Global opinion of your collective intelligence is as low as it can possibly get, so it's not like you'd make anyone percieve you differently.

But go ahead. Burn the flag of some random nation that is absolutely under your control & presents no danger to you. One can only hope you'll catch fire.
Norderia
05-11-2005, 03:21
Go ahead. Burn all the flags you want. They only matter to people who care about symbols. "I leave the symbols to the symbol-minded" -- George Carlin



I'd burn some flags if I was about to get screwed by Free Trade deals. Vicente Fox is spineless. I feel for the folks in Chiapas. I'd burn an American flag if it meant I didn't have to spend money to buy it.
Seosavists
05-11-2005, 03:22
Ahh yes, no one pays attention in N Ireland. They all just go on there merry ways and are friendly to everyone.
they don't react to that, it's in unionist areas so they aren't harming anyone. It's just a flag perhaps suitably it stands for peace between catholics and protestants but it's still just a bit of mass produced piece of fabric.
Madnestan
05-11-2005, 03:22
Burning flags is just a silly ritual that is used to show how fiercely nationalists some rioters/protesters are.

There are plenty of other silly rituals for the same purpose. I don't think that if Americans started to do that it would be concidered to nothing more than it in fact is. A silly ritual.
Eutrusca
05-11-2005, 03:22
"Lets burn other nations flags in the streets of America."

Nahh. We need to hold on to whatever we have left of the "high ground." Let's don't give them the satisfaction. :)
Skaladora
05-11-2005, 03:23
I'd burn an American flag if it meant I didn't have to spend money to buy it.

For some reason that comment sent me into a fit of uncontrollable laughter.:p
Rotovia-
05-11-2005, 03:24
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags. How about a UN flag burning party. That way we can protest UN corruption. Have placards that say down with the UN. Maybe UN is the great Satan. What would the world reaction be to such nonsense. Shock and horror im sure....
Go ahead. But the moment you do you have to shut the fuck up about everyone else doing it.

It's not like someone has drenched the east coast in gasoline and is actually burning America. Get over it.
Fass
05-11-2005, 03:24
Nahh. We need to hold on to whatever we have left of the "high ground."

All that poured wine eroded it. ;)
Bunnyducks
05-11-2005, 03:27
Here, burn the blue-white... employ a flag maker...
The Chinese Republics
05-11-2005, 03:27
I don't really care if the Canadian flag or the Chinese flag get incinerated by angry protesters. The only people I know who are so super sensitive about their nation's flag being burned before their eyes are the Americans! (yeah I'm talkin' about you Marrakech II so stop whining about the American flag being engulfed in flames.)
Fass
05-11-2005, 03:28
Here, burn the blue-white... employ a flag maker...

A Chinese flag maker, probably.
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:28
Go ahead. But the moment you do you have to shut the fuck up about everyone else doing it.

It's not like someone has drenched the east coast in gasoline and is actually burning America. Get over it.

Might want to get over yourself first. Before you start telling others to.
Americai
05-11-2005, 03:30
go ahead it's mostly americans who have a problem with flag burning. Northern Irish unionists burn our flag all the time in big pyres and no one cares.

Don't ever get yourself caught in Mexico. You will be arrested for burning its flag. And you do NOT want to be arrested in Mexico.
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:31
I don't really care if the Canadian flag or the Chinese flag get incinerated by angry protesters. The only people I know who are so super sensitive about their nation's flag being burned before their eyes are the Americans! (yeah I'm talkin' about you Marrakech II so stop whining about the American flag being engulfed in flames.)


Hardly whining. Just making a political statement. Thought NS was about that. But I would invite you to burn a Canadian or Chinese flag. They make pretty colors when they burn.
Bunnyducks
05-11-2005, 03:31
A Chinese flag maker, probably.
You are awfully right.
Argesia
05-11-2005, 03:31
-snip-
Go ahead. I cannot possibly care.
Rotovia-
05-11-2005, 03:31
Might want to get over yourself first. Before you start telling others to.
Are you mentally retarded in some way? I'm trying to come up with a reason for how your brain turned "get over it" -it being flagburning- into "get over yourself".
Skaladora
05-11-2005, 03:33
Hardly whining. Just making a political statement. Thought NS was about that. But I would invite you to burn a Canadian or Chinese flag. They make pretty colors when they burn.

All flags burn the same color.

Unless american flags are full of dangerous chemicals? :p
Seosavists
05-11-2005, 03:34
Are you mentally retarded in some way? I'm trying to come up with a reason for how your brain turned "get over it" -it being flagburning- into "get over yourself".
Do you look like a burning flag?
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:35
Are you mentally retarded in some way? I'm trying to come up with a reason for how your brain turned "get over it" -it being flagburning- into "get over yourself".

Meant try getting over being such an a**hole. Thats all.
Madnestan
05-11-2005, 03:35
Are you mentally retarded in some way? I'm trying to come up with a reason for how your brain turned "get over it" -it being flagburning- into "get over yourself".

That's what kids say. You tell a child that "your statement was stupid", in which he responds "no, YOU are stupid".
Seosavists
05-11-2005, 03:36
Don't ever get yourself caught in Mexico. You will be arrested for burning its flag. And you do NOT want to be arrested in Mexico.
crazy Mexicans!
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:36
That's what kids say. You tell a child that "your statement was stupid", in which he responds "no, YOU are stupid".


Well I was talking to a kid. So had to use logic that would make sense to him or her.
Madnestan
05-11-2005, 03:38
Meant try getting over being such an a**hole. Thats all.

You shouted he's an asshole for disagreeing with you. Sorry, but it is you who's looking childish here.
Seosavists
05-11-2005, 03:38
Well I was talking to a kid. So had to use logic that would make sense to him or her.
http://67.18.37.14/108/141/emo/jerry.gif
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:38
"Lets burn other nations flags in the streets of America."

Nahh. We need to hold on to whatever we have left of the "high ground." Let's don't give them the satisfaction. :)

Im actually of this mindset. But it is amazing to me the amount of people that think it brings there political statement home. Glad most Americans do hold the "high ground". Maybe the old parental saying "Don't stoop to there level" applies with this kind of nonsense.
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:39
http://67.18.37.14/108/141/emo/jerry.gif

LOL
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:40
You shouted he's an asshole for disagreeing with you. Sorry, but it is you who's looking childish here.

The original poster. Thanks. There is a way to make your point on these boards with out using swearing.
Gauthier
05-11-2005, 03:42
http://67.18.37.14/108/141/emo/jerry.gif

*Laughs*

"Few things are sadder than when a political disagreement devolves into spats of namecalling and taunts. At least here on our show, it requires a minimum of cheating on your spouse with your own cousin."
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:43
*Laughs*

"Few things are sadder than when a political disagreement devolves into spats of namecalling and taunts. At least here on our show, it requires a minimum of cheating on your spouse with your own cousin."

But that is part of politics im afraid. Dont have to go farther than the US senate for proof of that.
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:45
*Laughs*

it requires a minimum of cheating on your spouse with your own cousin."


This is legal in alot of states and many a nation of the world. Not mine though.;)
Highly advanced lemurs
05-11-2005, 03:47
I don't think it's stupid or "improper" for someone to burn anyone's flag. Is it ineffective? Well what are they trying to accomplish by burning flags? I doubt people think they're going to change the world by burning a flag. It's more of a sign of protest. A spit in the nation's face of whose flag is getting burned (and if you don't mind getting spit in the face, can I come over and spit at you then?). If the person who started this thread wants burn other nation's flags, then do so. Of course it's going to cause anger; after all, that's why you're burning the flag. And, if you are angry and appalled by someone else burning the US flag then the protestors have achieved their goal.

The UN flag on the other hand is probably the most useless and if you burn that, you're really shooting yourself in the foot since the UN consistently panders to US and other rich countries needs and desires.
Zagat
05-11-2005, 03:49
While I dont claim to be qualified to speak for 'the world', I can assure I would not be concerned about you burning my nation's flag, unless in doing so you were somehow presenting a risk to others (for instance a fire risk) or even to yourself (I would rather you didnt get hurt).

That being said, provided you take the necessary precautions to ensure safety is not compromised, you are more than welcome to burn my nation's flag, in fact, have a party, make it an even dozen...I really honestly dont mind.
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:51
The UN flag on the other hand is probably the most useless and if you burn that, you're really shooting yourself in the foot since the UN consistently panders to US and other rich countries needs and desires.

Nah just making a political statement about flag burning honestly. I dont have the time or will to burn another nations flag in anger. But had to get the attention to the thread to start the converstation.

The UN though in my opinion does not pander to the US. However that is a discussion that would take an entirely new thread. If you would like to start one we could discuss it at length.
Rotovia-
05-11-2005, 03:52
Do you look like a burning flag?
Not on purpose, no.
Bunnyducks
05-11-2005, 03:54
I don't think it's stupid or "improper" for someone to burn anyone's flag. Is it ineffective? Well what are they trying to accomplish by burning flags? I doubt people think they're going to change the world by burning a flag. It's more of a sign of protest. A spit in the nation's face of whose flag is getting burned (and if you don't mind getting spit in the face, can I come over and spit at you then?). If the person who started this thread wants burn other nation's flags, then do so. Of course it's going to cause anger; after all, that's why you're burning the flag. And, if you are angry and appalled by someone else burning the US flag then the protestors have achieved their goal.

The UN flag on the other hand is probably the most useless and if you burn that, you're really shooting yourself in the foot since the UN consistently panders to US and other rich countries needs and desires.
Jezus. 'It's stupid or improper to burn a flag of a country... burning a flag of multinational entity is great though...'
Rotovia-
05-11-2005, 03:55
Meant try getting over being such an a**hole. Thats all.
I'd rather be an arsehole the you, frankly. Something about the way you seem unable to grasp basic concepts that makes being you seem a very unattractice prospect indeed.
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 03:58
While I dont claim to be qualified to speak for 'the world', I can assure I would not be concerned about you burning my nation's flag, unless in doing so you were somehow presenting a risk to others (for instance a fire risk) or even to yourself (I would rather you didnt get hurt).

That being said, provided you take the necessary precautions to ensure safety is not compromised, you are more than welcome to burn my nation's flag, in fact, have a party, make it an even dozen...I really honestly dont mind.

Reminds me of that clip out of Iran. A "activist" trying to light the American flag on fire catches themselves on fire. Thus scarring themselves for life. Therefore the utmost safety should used at all times.

I wonder on another note. Does tear gas put out flag fires?
Layarteb
05-11-2005, 03:58
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags. How about a UN flag burning party. That way we can protest UN corruption. Have placards that say down with the UN. Maybe UN is the great Satan. What would the world reaction be to such nonsense. Shock and horror im sure....

You need to understand the worldwide double standard. You are allowed to piss on, burn, defecate on, and otherwise abuse an American flag but an American can not do that to another nations' flag. In addition, all of the above abuses towards an American flag are always forgetten when a 7.0 earthquake, a massive natural disaster, or an invading neighbor suddenly force said nation to wave the American flag.
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 04:00
I'd rather be an arsehole the you, frankly. Something about the way you seem unable to grasp basic concepts that makes being you seem a very unattractice prospect indeed.

Im fine the way I am. Frankly wouldnt want to be you either. Edit your post for that spelling error. First sentance please.
Boonytopia
05-11-2005, 04:01
To me, burning flags just doesn't bother me. I really don't see it as important. Whoever is doing it.
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 04:01
You need to understand the worldwide double standard. You are allowed to piss on, burn, defecate on, and otherwise abuse an American flag but an American can not do that to another nations' flag. In addition, all of the above abuses towards an American flag are always forgetten when a 7.0 earthquake, a massive natural disaster, or an invading neighbor suddenly force said nation to wave the American flag.


Very good response. At least some of you get the point of my post.
Seosavists
05-11-2005, 04:03
Im fine the way I am. Frankly wouldnt want to be you either. Edit your post for that spelling error. First sentance please.
arse is hiberno-english now used more in english english because of "father ted"(a tv programm)
Avast ye matey
05-11-2005, 04:03
I remmeber the first time I saw my flag (the Australian flag) being burned I wasn't upset, I was actually impressed. It was just after we'd sent peacekeeping troops into East Timor because rampaging pro-Indonesian militias (backed by the Indonesian army of course, but everyone was too polite to say that aloud) were running around massacring the locals after the people had voted overwhelmingly for independence in a referendum. Then one day on the news there's shots of huge anti-Australian demonstrations on the streets of Jakarta and angry young men burning the Australian flag and I was all "Wow, so this is what it's like to be America. Sweet!" :D
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 04:05
arse is hiberno-english now used more in english english because of "father ted"(a tv programm)


Silly you. Read his sentance again. Arse is not what I was talking about. But thanks for the clarification on arse.
Seosavists
05-11-2005, 04:06
Originally Posted by Layarteb
You need to understand the worldwide double standard. You are allowed to piss on, burn, defecate on, and otherwise abuse an American flag but an American can not do that to another nations' flag. In addition, all of the above abuses towards an American flag are always forgetten when a 7.0 earthquake, a massive natural disaster, or an invading neighbor suddenly force said nation to wave the American flag.Very good response. At least some of you get the point of my post.
Because he agrees with you? Despite the fact that every non-american on so far has said they don't care what you do with flags he's right because he agrees with you. Typical NS general.


Silly you. Read his sentance again. Arse is not what I was talking about. But thanks for the clarification on arse.
oh right "then" not the, more of a typo then a spelling mistake.
Rotovia-
05-11-2005, 04:10
Im fine the way I am. Frankly wouldnt want to be you either. Edit your post for that spelling error. First sentance please.
You're fine being so inane people think you're retarded? Nice job repeating what I said. No, especially when you fail to use basic grammar properly.
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 04:12
Because he agrees with you? Despite the fact that every non-american on so far has said they don't care what you do with flags he's right because he agrees with you. Typical NS general.

Yes he does agree with how I look at it. He also articulated it well. So what if I compliment him. Is there a problem with that?

Every non-American on here besides the Australian over East Timor doesnt see there flag being burned on tv with a regular basis. However I posted this original statement as a what if. Didnt say I was going to lead a anti-world flag burning party. Some People responded correctly. Agreeing or disagreeing. Some read it wrong and posted with that in mind. You would be in the latter at this point.
Zilam
05-11-2005, 04:13
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags. How about a UN flag burning party. That way we can protest UN corruption. Have placards that say down with the UN. Maybe UN is the great Satan. What would the world reaction be to such nonsense. Shock and horror im sure....


Oh Americans would be seen as evil and blah blah blah...Like always;...But a bit more passion against us. But see we respect other nations and don't do that crap, but hell im up for trying it to see what they do!
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 04:14
You're fine being so inane people think you're retarded? Nice job repeating what I said. No, especially when you fail to use basic grammar properly.


your just fine so I guess you are qualified to call me retarded eh?
Bunnyducks
05-11-2005, 04:16
Oh Americans would be seen as evil and blah blah blah...Like always;...But a bit more passion against us. But see we respect other nations and don't do that crap, but hell im up for trying it to see what they do!
Hell! You did good!
Non Aligned States
05-11-2005, 04:18
Unless american flags are full of dangerous chemicals? :p

The way things are done nowadays I wouldn't be surprised to find all sorts of chemicals in just about anything, flags included. Heh, for all we know, it could pose a huge fire hazard.
Seosavists
05-11-2005, 04:30
Every non-American on here besides the Australian over East Timor doesnt see there flag being burned on tv with a regular basis. However I posted this original statement as a what if. Didnt say I was going to lead a anti-world flag burning party. Some People responded correctly. Agreeing or disagreeing. Some read it wrong and posted with that in mind. You would be in the latter at this point.
Actually I already told you my country's flag is burned frequently in Northern Ireland.
l responded to this: "What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags."
Which is in your original post. I didn't think you where proposing to burn other flags.

Yes he does agree with how I look at it. He also articulated it well. So what if I compliment him. Is there a problem with that?

There is a problem he said
You need to understand the worldwide double standard. You are allowed to piss on, burn, defecate on, and otherwise abuse an American flag but an American can not do that to another nations' flag.
You could, if you wanted to, do all the things he mentions to most(not all) other flags with less reaction then burning an American flag. So yes there's a double standard and it's Americans (and other countries who are so against burning their flag) and that is you wouldn't care if anyone elses flag is burning, heck if it's the French flag you'd probably cheer!
Rotovia-
05-11-2005, 04:36
your just fine so I guess you are qualified to call me retarded eh?
I've never once called you retarded, my paranoid friend. I once asked if you were retarded and once suggested people may think you are retarted. Furthermore, in both cases I used the term retarded to refer to limited, restricted or hindered -with specific regards to though processing.

But as you said, I'm not qualified to diagnose you with mental retardation. I maintain, however, that you appear to be suffering from a retardation of thought.
The Soviet Americas
05-11-2005, 04:44
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags. How about a UN flag burning party. That way we can protest UN corruption. Have placards that say down with the UN. Maybe UN is the great Satan. What would the world reaction be to such nonsense. Shock and horror im sure....
WAHHHHH! But mommy, he did it first! WAHHHH!

Cry more, n00b.
Khodros
05-11-2005, 04:51
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags. How about a UN flag burning party. That way we can protest UN corruption. Have placards that say down with the UN. Maybe UN is the great Satan. What would the world reaction be to such nonsense. Shock and horror im sure....

You're right. It's not fair. Then again not very many things in this world are, and I'm sure you don't need me to remind you of that. And since being Americans puts us on the benefiting end of the immensely unfair global wealth distribution, well taking a stance against all things unfair would not be in our best interest now would it.

So why don't we just let this "suffering from flag-burning discrimination" thing slide, eh?
Carnivorous Lickers
05-11-2005, 06:54
I dont really give a shit what other people think about burning flags.
I dont like to the the American flag burning, I dont like the whole argument over it.
If I happen upon someone burning my flag, I'll express how I feel about it. In the one language evrybody understands.

Save your smug reply comments-I'm not going to be impressed and dont give a flying fuck.
Khodros
05-11-2005, 07:29
I dont really give a shit what other people think about burning flags.
I dont like to the the American flag burning, I dont like the whole argument over it.
If I happen upon someone burning my flag, I'll express how I feel about it. In the one language evrybody understands.

Save your smug reply comments-I'm not going to be impressed and dont give a flying fuck.

If I ever got an urge to burn the American flag, I would never burn yours. That's pretty rude. I'd buy my own flag and burn it.


EDIT: btw that was a real conversation killer. congrats.
Myotisinia
05-11-2005, 08:49
If I ever got an urge to burn the American flag, I would never burn yours. That's pretty rude. I'd buy my own flag and burn it.


EDIT: btw that was a real conversation killer. congrats.

What really kills me are the Americans' who choose to burn their own flag in protest. Granted, it has been determined to be a form of their constitutionally protected right of free speech to do so. Unfortunately for them, it could also be interpreted to be someone elses' constitutionally protected right of free speech to stomp them like Boy George at a biker's rally when they catch them doing it.

Oh. The subject? I myself wouldn't burn anyone's national flag. Because I wouldn't want them to do that to ours.
The Similized world
05-11-2005, 09:09
You need to understand the worldwide double standard. You are allowed to piss on, burn, defecate on, and otherwise abuse an American flag but an American can not do that to another nations' flag. In addition, all of the above abuses towards an American flag are always forgetten when a 7.0 earthquake, a massive natural disaster, or an invading neighbor suddenly force said nation to wave the American flag.
You also need to understand the American double standard. Americans are allowed to piss on, burn, defecate on, and otherwise abuse pretty much any nation, people or cloth. And they do so with gleefull enthusiasm every single day of their lives. In addidion, all of the above abuses are pretty damn hard to ignore when America never even bothers to support the poverty stricken nations they (and other 1st world nations) keep poor, when a 7.0 earthquake, a massive natural disaster, or an invading American army suddenly force said nation to gobble down yet more American excrements.

... How do you manage to ignore your nations role in geopolitics? If you help yourself to the standard to which you hold everyone else, noone in the world would have a problem with you. In fact, that age old illusion that everyone envies you might even come true if you started living up to your own ideals.

As it is right now, the majority of people on planet Earth wants you to get the fuck off the planet. And they want that because you're concrete threat to their continued existence.
Harlesburg
05-11-2005, 09:20
Great idea make sure its a Muslim nations Flag so you can expect a 'Terrorist' act.
Ariddia
05-11-2005, 10:50
What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags.

I think most of us would probably point at you, and laugh. And then go and tell some friends how silly some Americans are, and have another good laugh about it.
Fallanour
05-11-2005, 10:53
Yay, flag burning. Go ahead, most people don't care. Mind if I join and burn a couple myself? one of them will of course have to be american, to balance things out.
Harlesburg
05-11-2005, 10:53
I think most of us would probably point at you, and laugh. And then go and tell some friends how silly some Americans are, and have another good laugh about it.
And then wait for the customary lynching of some US Official in some far off land before an Embassey is bombed.
Argesia
05-11-2005, 10:58
Actually, Americans burning other countries' flags is an excellent idea. At least, most American students would have a chance to find out they look like, and perhaps the fact that Boobsylvania is not an actual country.
Laerod
05-11-2005, 11:01
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags. How about a UN flag burning party. That way we can protest UN corruption. Have placards that say down with the UN. Maybe UN is the great Satan. What would the world reaction be to such nonsense. Shock and horror im sure....I personally think we'd get laughed at. I mean "burning UN flags" come on :rolleyes:. No one does that...
Sebytania
05-11-2005, 11:02
How about we stop burning other nations' flags everyone and burn the symbol of corruption and fascism, the flag of EU instead?

EDIT: I actually found proof that the EU is evil, even for christians who won't believe it otherwise. If you replace every letter and space with a number, starting again from 1 when you reach 6, you get 123456123456123456 (=666) out of "The European Union". So EU is evil.
Fallanour
05-11-2005, 11:05
I've also noticed that the majority of people on this thread saying other nations would be offended are... americans.

Thus, I must claim that there is no double standard by the non-americans, because most other nations quite honestly don't care and some of them see it while others have offered to either provide the flag or burn it themselves.

Those non-americans who do disagree probably also disagree with burning american flags, so no double standard there either.

Of course some nations would be offended, so pick them who don't mind. (someone mentioned mexico as minding a lot).

Edit:
How about we stop burning other nations' flags everyone and burn the symbol of corruption and fascism, the flag of EU instead?

Yay! more flags to burn!

Of course, I bet most people would ignore you.
Laerod
05-11-2005, 11:05
How about we stop burning other nations' flags everyone and burn the symbol of corruption and fascism, the flag of EU instead?:rolleyes:
That's a rather cute conspiracy theory. How is the EU fascist?
Sebytania
05-11-2005, 11:08
EU is corrupt, fascist, racist, imperialist, agist, sexist, satanist, nazist, humanist and anything bad you can think of ending with "ist."

Also see my previous post for a theory of why are they evil.
Harlesburg
05-11-2005, 11:09
How about we stop burning other nations' flags everyone and burn the symbol of corruption and fascism, the flag of EU instead?

EDIT: I actually found proof that the EU is evil, even for christians who won't believe it otherwise. If you replace every letter and space with a number, starting again from 1 when you reach 6, you get 123456123456123456 (=666) out of "The European Union". So EU is evil.
I am thinking of a number it is 0.

What is the Number i am thinking of?
Sebytania
05-11-2005, 11:10
Zero doesn't count as a number this time. Just come burn some EU flags.

EDIT: Actually, why bother burning just the EU flag? How about everyone burns the flag of their closest neighboring nation? If you are unsure which one to burn, take the one in west.
Laerod
05-11-2005, 11:16
EU is corrupt, fascist, racist, imperialist, agist, sexist, satanist, nazist, humanist and anything bad you can think of ending with "ist."

Also see my previous post for a theory of why are they evil.They're evil because they're name spells 666? Are you some kind of Jim Searcy follower or being sarcastic?
Kroblexskij
05-11-2005, 11:19
why yes lets burn the EU flag, because after all what have they ever done to us apart from the constant oppression, police states, corrupt polititians, lowering human standards and always trying to decrease our economy. :rolleyes:

*clicks fingers and lightbulb appears*

It's bonfire night tonight, how abouts i bring along a flag and burn that.
Harlesburg
05-11-2005, 11:19
They're evil because they're name spells 666? Are you some kind of Jim Searcy follower or being sarcastic?
No probably a mix between the Amish and Chomsky.
Laerod
05-11-2005, 11:23
No probably a mix between the Amish and Chomsky.I dunno about the Amish. They don't spill out crazy religious conspiracy theories like Jim Searcy does.
Ariddia
05-11-2005, 11:23
Actually, Americans burning other countries' flags is an excellent idea. At least, most American students would have a chance to find out they look like, and perhaps the fact that Boobsylvania is not an actual country.

Hmm... You raise a good point there.

How many of you in this thread would recognise the flags of Iran, North Korea, Libya, Cuba and Syria if asked to pick them from the 191 flags of all UN nations? I would for Iran, DPRK, Cuba and Lybia; I might get Syria's wrong.
Kroblexskij
05-11-2005, 11:25
Hmm... You raise a good point there.

How many of you in this thread would recognise the flags of Iran, North Korea, Libya, Cuba and Syria if asked to pick them from the 191 flags of all UN nations? I would for Iran, DPRK, Cuba and Lybia; I might get Syria's wrong.

i would get north korea iran korea libya cuba but not syria, i might have a problem with iran as its one of those black red white green ones.
Laerod
05-11-2005, 11:30
Hmm... You raise a good point there.

How many of you in this thread would recognise the flags of Iran, North Korea, Libya, Cuba and Syria if asked to pick them from the 191 flags of all UN nations? I would for Iran, DPRK, Cuba and Lybia; I might get Syria's wrong.I have a little trouble with African or Pacific Island states, but I could probably get most of the other 191 flags right.
Harlesburg
05-11-2005, 11:32
I dunno about the Amish. They don't spill out crazy religious conspiracy theories like Jim Searcy does.
So a Chomsky Rubiks Cube Conspiracy then?
Argesia
05-11-2005, 11:33
Hmm... You raise a good point there.

How many of you in this thread would recognise the flags of Iran, North Korea, Libya, Cuba and Syria if asked to pick them from the 191 flags of all UN nations? I would for Iran, DPRK, Cuba and Lybia; I might get Syria's wrong.

And check this out:

The "holey" flag was one of the most important flags in the recent history of the country. This flag was a de facto civil ensign of Romania immediately after the fall of Ceausescu, and is historically important to the point of being offered to the president of the US, being thanked by him as a beautiful "poncho".

From this site: http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ro-hole.html (I gave you a link to check the flag out, but I remember seeing this on the news as well).

EDIT: Excuse the FOTW contributor's grammar.
Neu Leonstein
05-11-2005, 12:16
Feel free to burn the German flag if you feel the need.

I don't know why you'd want to, but in the end it's just a piece of cloth, and you had to buy - so you're burning your own money. Isn't that even more illegal than burning a flag?
Laerod
05-11-2005, 12:25
Feel free to burn the German flag if you feel the need.

I don't know why you'd want to, but in the end it's just a piece of cloth, and you had to buy - so you're burning your own money. Isn't that even more illegal than burning a flag?Teehee. That reminds me of my ingenious plan of getting rich from selling American flags in Iran...:D
Lazy Otakus
05-11-2005, 12:51
Actually, Americans burning other countries' flags is an excellent idea. At least, most American students would have a chance to find out they look like, and perhaps the fact that Boobsylvania is not an actual country.

True, flag burning is quite educational. It's also an outdoor activity and it's ovbiously good for flag manufacturers and thus the economy. I see only positive sides. :)
Alinania
05-11-2005, 12:59
Teehee. That reminds me of my ingenious plan of getting rich from selling American flags in Iran...:D
Hehehe! I can even see you doing that :D
OceanDrive2
05-11-2005, 13:20
Teehee. That reminds me of my ingenious plan of getting rich from selling American flags in Iran...:Dor you can sell flags...whenever Bush visits Latin America.

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20051104/capt.dlmx12711042207.argentina_americas_summit_dlmx127.jpg


http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/wl/110405summitamericas/im:/051104/481/dlmx12711042207;_ylt=AhDVh26ulu.3GWXhxfCNA65gWscF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3dmhrOGVvBHNlYwNzc20-
Anarchic Christians
05-11-2005, 13:33
Burn a Union Jack please do.

I'd laugh.

And I think most of the rest of Britain would either not care or laugh right along with me.

Of course the NF and BNP might get a bit pissed at you but hey, they're right-wing nuts, I see only positives to the situation.
Ragbralbur
05-11-2005, 14:40
So if Americans pledge allegiance to the flag, are they required to, uh, protect it from harm?

*gets the funny mental imagery of a man catching on fire trying to save a flag*
OceanDrive2
05-11-2005, 14:48
*gets the funny mental imagery of a man catching on fire trying to save a flag*ive seen images of people accidentally catching themselves on fire while settin the Flag on fire...

Today there is a YahooNEWS image of a Anti-Bush protestor... he caugh fire on his ass...while trying to trow a molotow...
Corneliu
05-11-2005, 15:02
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags. How about a UN flag burning party. That way we can protest UN corruption. Have placards that say down with the UN. Maybe UN is the great Satan. What would the world reaction be to such nonsense. Shock and horror im sure....

Let me know where and when and I'll be there to burn a few flags. :)
OceanDrive2
05-11-2005, 15:08
Let me know where and when and I'll be there to burn a few flags. :)Ill bring the pop-corn....and a Burn-Baby-Burn CD+player :D :D
Puddytat
05-11-2005, 15:10
Hey Its November the Fifth, there will be a lot of Catholic burning tonight, a few effigies(or is it effigys) of the pope and goverment officials will being burned Blair Bush Prescott His popeyiness the Hole and some old clothes with a football for a head as well.
it seems to be only the reactionary tools and tabloids that get all arsey about it
Sonaj
05-11-2005, 15:23
Actually, why bother burning just the EU flag? How about everyone burns the flag of their closest neighboring nation? If you are unsure which one to burn, take the one in west.
Lol! Great idea! Norway has been free from Sweden 100 years, it's 'bout time we start making them angry again.

Today there is a YahooNEWS image of a Anti-Bush protestor... he caugh fire on his ass...while trying to trow a molotow...
:confused: How do you manage to set yourself on fire when trying to throw a molotov? How is that possible?

Also, if someone would burn the swedish flag, I'd mostly be curious as to why.
OceanDrive2
05-11-2005, 15:28
if someone would burn the swedish flag, I'd mostly be curious as to why.for the hell of it :D
:confused: How do you manage to set yourself on fire when trying to throw a molotov? How is that possible?good question.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/051104/051104_arg_hmed_2p.hmedium.jpg
Jeruselem
05-11-2005, 15:29
I wonder what images of Americans burning the Australian flag will do?
Lovestruck
05-11-2005, 15:33
I think people forget why burning a flag is hurtful. Of course its just cloth, but the symbolism counts for more.
If you burn a cross, or a 6-pointed star, people will get angry. Some people might say, "Its no big deal its only a cross, or 6-pointed star." But they're wrong.
Symbolism is almost the biggest human act ever. We come up with symbols for everything!

To sum it up, burning someone's flag is like telling someone "F*ck your mom!"
Sure you're not doing it, but won't they still find it offensive?
OceanDrive2
05-11-2005, 15:45
I think people forget why burning a flag is hurtful. Of course its just cloth, but the symbolism counts for more.
If you burn a cross, or a 6-pointed star, people will get angry. Some people might say, "Its no big deal its only a cross, or 6-pointed star." But they're wrong.
Symbolism is almost the biggest human act ever. We come up with symbols for everything!

To sum it up, burning someone's flag is like telling someone "F*ck your mom!"
Sure you're not doing it, but won't they still find it offensive?I have traveled the world and the seven seas...and this I can tell you...

for most peoples...if you burn the flag of their country...It will draw the same kind of reaction as if you were doing graffiti on a Gov building...(they will see you as a moron)...

But If you ever tell them "fuck you moms"...they will want to kill you...or at least send you to the hospital.
Aust
05-11-2005, 15:49
Yeah, you go do that, will anyone care? Go on, waste your money on buying flags and burn em.

You know, the only people who care about flag-burning are the Americans.
Lewrockwellia
05-11-2005, 15:51
Let's burn Cuban, Russian, Vietnamese, Laotian, Chinese, North Korean, Zimbabwean, Swedish, and Norwegian flags! :D
Lewrockwellia
05-11-2005, 15:52
Let's burn Cuban, Russian, Vietnamese, Laotian, Chinese, North Korean, Zimbabwean, Swedish, and Norwegian flags! :D

...I kid.
OceanDrive2
05-11-2005, 15:57
Let's burn Cuban, Russian, Vietnamese, Laotian, Chinese, North Korean, Zimbabwean, Swedish, and Norwegian flags! :DI just burned some 200 flags...some of contries I dont even know...
Lewrockwellia
05-11-2005, 16:06
I just burned some 200 flags...some of contries I dont even know...

Rofl
Super-power
05-11-2005, 16:19
I just burned some 200 flags...some of contries I dont even know...
Every time you burn a flag....God kills a kitten!!
Refused Party Program
05-11-2005, 16:35
Please, go ahead, and burn the Union Flag, I do it all the time. It's actually pretty fun.
OceanDrive2
05-11-2005, 16:44
Every time you burn a flag....God kills a kitten!!awww :p

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=flag+burn&ei=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&fr=moz2
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 16:47
:confused: How do you manage to set yourself on fire when trying to throw a molotov? How is that possible?

.


Well think about it. You have a bottle of flammable liquid with a rag sticking out of the top. You get into "toss" position. Much like you would with a discus. A buddy lights the rag while in this position. Now if you have your throwing arm to far back. It is possible that the rag would come into contact with your bottom. Therefore panic and the possibility of actually dropping the bottle. You get the picture from there.
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 16:50
EU is corrupt, fascist, racist, imperialist, agist, sexist, satanist, nazist, humanist and anything bad you can think of ending with "ist."

Also see my previous post for a theory of why are they evil.

Thus the label " The Great Satan".
Sierra BTHP
05-11-2005, 16:51
Well think about it. You have a bottle of flammable liquid with a rag sticking out of the top. You get into "toss" position. Much like you would with a discus. A buddy lights the rag while in this position. Now if you have your throwing arm to far back. It is possible that the rag would come into contact with your bottom. Therefore panic and the possibility of actually dropping the bottle. You get the picture from there.
If you were smart, and had attended chemistry class in uni, and had actually paid attention instead of catching up on your sleep, you would have a Molotov that requires no lighting, and would only ignite when the bottle breaks.

Of course, there's still a problem if you drop the bottle, but it's better than lighting one and having it burst in your hands.
Warta Endor
05-11-2005, 16:51
Well think about it. You have a bottle of flammable liquid with a rag sticking out of the top. You get into "toss" position. Much like you would with a discus. A buddy lights the rag while in this position. Now if you have your throwing arm to far back. It is possible that the rag would come into contact with your bottom. Therefore panic and the possibility of actually dropping the bottle. You get the picture from there.

That's just plain amateurism! Sheesh, they need to set up a school for anti-globalists or something :p

I wouldn't mind if someone burned the dutch flag. It's so damn cold here that I'd actually be happy about it when they did it straight in my face! The heater has broken down, so...
Gravlen
05-11-2005, 16:51
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags.

A flag is a symbol, representing its state. When you burn the flag you are sending the same message as if you were to say "that state should be wiped of the map". So of course people might get hurt and/or angry if you burn their nation's flag.

On the other hand, you have to look at the bigger picture. If a few people in America started protesting and burning Swedish or Norwegian flags, nobody would take it seriously because those countries are on very friendly terms with the US. By this I mean that most people, both in Norway and Sweden and the US, would know that this just would be a few people ranting and not a sign of official US policy, America does not want to remove those countries from existence.

So my viewpoint is: They may burn the flags - after all, everyone should be free to express their opinions. But they should be aware of what they are communicating by performing this act.
Marrakech II
05-11-2005, 16:55
I just burned some 200 flags...some of contries I dont even know...

Please tell me you didnt take that Venezuelan flag out to burn. Chavez wouldn't be happy. ;)
Aust
05-11-2005, 18:43
awww :p

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=flag+burn&ei=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&fr=moz2
Lol.
PersonalHappiness
06-11-2005, 01:09
Feel free to burn Austrian flags.

I dare say that we don't mind at all.
Swimmingpool
06-11-2005, 01:39
I see the flag burners are alive and well in the summit of the Americas. Yet more clowns burning US flags. What by chance would happen if US citizens started burning other nations flags. Lets say we stage a burn in and make sure CNN, BBC, and whomever else you can think of to film it. Do you think anger would erupt in lets say Iran if it was showed that Americans protested there president and then burnt Iranian flags.
I would like to see Americans burning Iranian flags, just once, because the ensuing reaction would be so side-crackingly funny. Don't make flag-burning a regular thing though, it's easier not to hate.
Argesia
06-11-2005, 01:42
I would like to see Americans burning Iranian flags, just once, because the ensuing reaction would be so side-crackingly funny. Don't make flag-burning a regular thing though, it's easier not to hate.
I think the US did a wee bit better than burn their flags: they backed their former blood-thirsty regime.
Gauthier
06-11-2005, 02:04
I think the US did a wee bit better than burn their flags: they backed their former blood-thirsty regime.

America backs any country that openly claims to be fighting Communism/Terrorism/WhateverAmericaHatesRightNowism. Take a look at Iran, Vietnam, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia as proof.
Undelia
06-11-2005, 02:18
I’m up for burning any flag any time.
Gravlen
06-11-2005, 02:20
I would like to see Americans burning Iranian flags, just once, because the ensuing reaction would be so side-crackingly funny. Don't make flag-burning a regular thing though, it's easier not to hate.

The reaction would probably be: "See, we told you they were evil and wanted to destroy us. Now we must have nuclear weapons to protect ourselves."

Other than the blatant use of footage of flag-burning americans for propaganda reasons, I doubt the reaction would be much to laugh at, really.