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Edit: Paris Burns

ARF-COM and IBTL
05-11-2005, 01:34
I'm watching it with keen eyes. This looks interesting. The dude running the show sounds tough, I wonder if he'll really crack down on them or if he'll let them run wild.
Many of the youths blame Mr Sarkozy for the continued violence, with what they consider to be highly provocative language. He has pledged to "industrially clean" council estates and to rid them of "scum".

On Sunday night, he promised "zero tolerance" of suburban crime. Two rioters have already received three-month jail sentences and a dozen more face charges.

"We're not dumb. Sarkozy has declared war on suburban youth," said Karim, 23. "Unless he apologises for the way he has treated us, then he can expect 40 nights of violence," he said.

But others around the estate back Mr Sarkozy. "What he says may be crude, but he's right. Drug runners and petty criminals have had it good too long around here.

"There's only so much social prevention you can do, then you have to repress," said Marie-Jeanne Sacré, a social worker.

In the neighbouring Bosquet estate, Traore Gounedi, a 27-year-old worker in a local social centre, is incensed. "Ten years ago, Clichy was a real no-go area. But in recent years we had built up sports clubs and other associations and it had become calm.

"The way Sarkozy has dealt with this, using riot police and terms the National Front would be proud of, has put the clock back 10 years. Once Ramadan ends on Friday, things will get worse."

www.telegraph.co.uk



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Paris has suffered its seventh consecutive night of rioting, with youths torching cars and vandalising shops and businesses.

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Around 40 vehicles, including two buses, were set alight in nine towns in Seine-Saint-Denis, a high-unemployment largely-immigrant district of the French capital.

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The worst affected area was Aulnay-sous-Bois, where a police station was briefly besieged by gangs of rioters.

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President Jacques Chirac called for calm as firefighters and police struggled to contain the rioters and the fires.

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The violence began after two teenagers died when they were electrocuted in an electricity sub station while apparently fleeing police.

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Eleven vehicles were burned out and a policeman lightly injured after clashes between French youth and riot police.

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Cars and vans were set alight during riots in the suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois

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During the riots hundreds of youths went on the rampage, hurling molotov cocktals and shooting at a police van

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Many people have been detained by police in Clichy, which is home to many immigrants and poor families who live in high-rise housing estates.

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Police snipers surrounded a suspect building during the riots on the look out for any trouble.

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Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy has referred to troublemakers as 'scum' and has taken a tough law-and-order stance towards the violence

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The violence spread to the suburb of Bondy, where rioters burnt down a carpet store. Cars and rubbish bins were also torched by gangs of youths.

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The Mondial Moquette carpet store was gutted by the blaze. Police said 60 vehicles had been set alight on the sixth night of riots.

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A burnt-out truck stands in Sevan, another Parisian suburb.

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The deaths and subsequent violence prompted residents to march through the area to call for calm.

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But the fighting continued. Riot police stationed in the town made regular arrests, and fired rubber bullets at missile-throwing youths.

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Representatives of the area's youth were invited to a meeting with Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy on 1 November. More violence erupted as they met.

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Many of Paris' poor suburban districts have seen high unemployment and growing social problems in recent years.

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Firefighters and riot police have now been stationed in Clichy, as sporadic violence spreads across the city.

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Riot police were out in force in north-east Paris on Wednesday night during a seventh night of rioting.

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Once again, youths came on to the streets, setting light to vehicles in the suburb of Le Blanc Mesnil.

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In nearby Aulnay-sous-Bois police tried to bring the situation under control

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Residents of the poor, largely ethnic suburb watched from their windows as a car showroom went up in flames.
Sierra BTHP
05-11-2005, 01:34
You obviously don't read the other threads. We've been on this subject for a few days now...
ARF-COM and IBTL
05-11-2005, 01:36
You obviously don't read the other threads. We've been on this subject for a few days now...


This must be a new record for myself, I duped myself.

Mods delete this thread.
Romanore
05-11-2005, 01:38
I keep hearing about the riots, but I always seem to miss the "why". So, why are there mass riots by the French youths? What's going on?
Rotovia-
05-11-2005, 01:55
I keep hearing about the riots, but I always seem to miss the "why". So, why are there mass riots by the French youths? What's going on?
French estates are largerly made up of muslim decendants of the African settlers and live in -sometimes- ghetto like areas. They feel marginalised from the rest of France and typically resent moves such as the banning of Burgas in schools as a direct attack on them.

That's about as balanced as I can tell it.