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Documentation MAY exist that ties prisoner abuse to V.P.'s office

Gymoor II The Return
05-11-2005, 00:13
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001434514

But of course, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson is an America-hating commie liberal who want to burn your truck and shoot your dog.

Terrorists. 9/11.

That is all.
The Nazz
05-11-2005, 00:18
You have learned well, young Skywalker. :D
Eutrusca
05-11-2005, 00:36
"Documentation MAY exist that ties prisoner abuse to V.P.'s office"

This would not surpise me.
Celtlund
05-11-2005, 00:44
And documentation MAY exist that space aliens have visited Michael Jackson. :eek:
MostlyFreeTrade
05-11-2005, 00:50
This is the guy who tried to get congress to legalize a few dozen forms of torture, so this story really doesn't suprise me. At least he tried the legal way...
Gymoor II The Return
05-11-2005, 00:51
And documentation MAY exist that space aliens have visited Michael Jackson. :eek:

Brilliant. Did you read the article?
Sierra BTHP
05-11-2005, 00:55
Brilliant. Did you read the article?

Yes, I read the article.

I find it interesting that he made these claims in an interview on NPR, but did not show the reporter any of the "hard" evidence he purports to have - classified or unclassified.

I wonder why. If you had such evidence, wouldn't you run, not walk to the nearest large newspaper (Washington Post might do in a pinch)? And bring the house down?

I'll wait to see the "hard" evidence first, thank you.
Gymoor II The Return
05-11-2005, 00:59
Yes, I read the article.

I find it interesting that he made these claims in an interview on NPR, but did not show the reporter any of the "hard" evidence he purports to have - classified or unclassified.

I wonder why. If you had such evidence, wouldn't you run, not walk to the nearest large newspaper (Washington Post might do in a pinch)? And bring the house down?

I'll wait to see the "hard" evidence first, thank you.

This from the poster who complains about the Left always saying "you can't trust THAT source!"

http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2005-11-03T031317Z_01_FOR285950_RTRUKOC_0_US-ARMS-STRATEGY.xml
The Nazz
05-11-2005, 00:59
Yes, I read the article.

I find it interesting that he made these claims in an interview on NPR, but did not show the reporter any of the "hard" evidence he purports to have - classified or unclassified.

I wonder why. If you had such evidence, wouldn't you run, not walk to the nearest large newspaper (Washington Post might do in a pinch)? And bring the house down?

I'll wait to see the "hard" evidence first, thank you.
Believe it or not, I'm with you on this--I'd like to see evidence. The sad thing is that I don't find it difficult in the slightest to believe that Wilkerson's accusations are accurate--I wish I did.
Sierra BTHP
05-11-2005, 01:00
This from the poster who complains about the Left always saying "you can't trust THAT source!"
I'm not saying you can't trust NPR. What do you think I listen to in the morning and evening?

I'm saying he doesn't have the "hard" evidence until he "shows us" the "hard" evidence.
Gymoor II The Return
05-11-2005, 01:12
I'm not saying you can't trust NPR. What do you think I listen to in the morning and evening?

I'm saying he doesn't have the "hard" evidence until he "shows us" the "hard" evidence.

Agreed.
Sumamba Buwhan
05-11-2005, 01:16
Yes, I read the article.

I find it interesting that he made these claims in an interview on NPR, but did not show the reporter any of the "hard" evidence he purports to have - classified or unclassified.

I wonder why. If you had such evidence, wouldn't you run, not walk to the nearest large newspaper (Washington Post might do in a pinch)? And bring the house down?

I'll wait to see the "hard" evidence first, thank you.

I'd like to see it to.

I heard this interview and he said he no longer has access to the documents because they were classified or something.
Sierra BTHP
05-11-2005, 01:20
I'd like to see it to.

I heard this interview and he said he no longer has access to the documents because they were classified or something.

Then he should do what that former aide to the Clinton Administration did - just walk into the archives claiming you're doing historical research, find the memos, and stuff them in your pants and walk out (it's what Sandy Berger did, and all he got was a slap on the wrist - a lot of the material was never returned).
Sumamba Buwhan
05-11-2005, 01:24
Then he should do what that former aide to the Clinton Administration did - just walk into the archives claiming you're doing historical research, find the memos, and stuff them in your pants and walk out (it's what Sandy Berger did, and all he got was a slap on the wrist - a lot of the material was never returned).


unfortunately he probably has higher standards than that
Gymoor II The Return
05-11-2005, 01:27
Then he should do what that former aide to the Clinton Administration did - just walk into the archives claiming you're doing historical research, find the memos, and stuff them in your pants and walk out (it's what Sandy Berger did, and all he got was a slap on the wrist - a lot of the material was never returned).

But Clinton!!!!eleven!
Sierra BTHP
05-11-2005, 01:28
unfortunately he probably has higher standards than that
People on this forum keep telling me that members of the Bush administration, to a man or woman, have lower standards than the Democrats.

It is, indeed, the message of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

Are you telling me that a man (two, since you have to count Powell in on this one) who worked for the Bush Administration has standards?
Sumamba Buwhan
05-11-2005, 01:34
People on this forum keep telling me that members of the Bush administration, to a man or woman, have lower standards than the Democrats.

It is, indeed, the message of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

Are you telling me that a man (two, since you have to count Powell in on this one) who worked for the Bush Administration has standards?


thats what I'm telling you

I dont like Dems or reps but some of them are admirable and I give credit where credit is due
Sumamba Buwhan
05-11-2005, 01:42
and I like Powell and would vote for him for Pres
Sierra BTHP
05-11-2005, 01:46
and I like Powell and would vote for him for Pres

He's not stupid enough to run for office.

Considering the attacks any winner goes through once he attains office (because the other side never accepts loss), it's a wonder anyone wants to do it at all.

Getting nominated for a Supreme Court position is a bit worse - everyone and their mother digs up every scrap of your private life all the way back to childhood - they hound your mother and bitch about your wife's selection of childrens clothing. Many who were recently on the White House short list refused to be nominated for just that reason.
Gymoor II The Return
05-11-2005, 01:46
People on this forum keep telling me that members of the Bush administration, to a man or woman, have lower standards than the Democrats.

It is, indeed, the message of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

Are you telling me that a man (two, since you have to count Powell in on this one) who worked for the Bush Administration has standards?

Gee for someone who reads 5,000 words a minute, you sure don't read accurately.

Except for the most slobbering of partisans, no one believes that ALL Republicans are corrupt. A "culture of corruption," does not mean that everyone is an amoral scumbag.
Sierra BTHP
05-11-2005, 01:49
Gee for someone who reads 5,000 words a minute, you sure don't read accurately.

Except for the most slobbering of partisans, no one believes that ALL Republicans are corrupt. A "culture of corruption," does not mean that everyone is an amoral scumbag.

Pelosi is just such a slobbering partisan. I believe that the term as used by her applies to All Republicans without exception unless she deigns to name one as untainted.
Sumamba Buwhan
05-11-2005, 01:52
He's not stupid... (snippitydoodah)

He's also got high standards for himself,although my opinion of him lowered a bit because of that UN speech. I'm wondering if it was because they threatened him or his family in some way. I still think that he would be in teh Presidency for the good of the nation (even if he would do things I don't agree with) and not for money or power.