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I know it sounds horrible saying this, but I really would like to know since when this matters.
My school is conducting a test to see whether deaf or hearing children score better on tests. Once more, why on Earth does this matter? I know, I know, it's cruel to say something like that, but hey!
I was trying to figure this out after saying 'Sure I'll do it..' while thinking 'Food and free movie passes! Hell yeah!'.
I am horrible.:confused:

I know it sounds horrible saying this, but I really would like to know since when this matters.
My school is conducting a test to see whether deaf or hearing children score better on tests. Once more, why on Earth does this matter? I know, I know, it's cruel to say something like that, but hey!
I was trying to figure this out after saying 'Sure I'll do it..' while thinking 'Food and free movie passes! Hell yeah!'.
I am horrible.:confused:
Because if they can find the actual cause of the differences they may be able to use that information to find ways to boost all education

Yeah, the goal seems pretty clear cut to me...if deaf kids do worse on tests overall, clearly something needs to be done to help them achieve at a higher level, and if hearing kids do worse, then what advantages do deaf kids have that hearing kids might need to 'replicate'?

They could cut off our ears.
Just joking.
But... I see WHY they're doing it, but this is the place where they take the scores of people with mental retardations and average them in with the scores of the same people in all extended classes. -sigh- I never will understand.

They could cut off our ears.
Just joking.
But... I see WHY they're doing it, but this is the place where they take the scores of people with mental retardations and average them in with the scores of the same people in all extended classes. -sigh- I never will understand.
I think your school needs every advantage it can get ... I'm sorry but if you are the product of that education system they need to start analyzing what they are doing and what they can do to help their students raise their education level

It may not matter to you, but it probably matters a lot to the psychology professor who is using his research grant to fund the study. Who knows what the data will reveal, or to what use it will be put? That's not necessarily the point. This study may turn up data that helps us understand how the human brain works. It may provide clues about how to better educate people, both hearing and non-hearing. Or it could turn up nothing.

I think it was Larry Niven who claimed that the greatest survival strategy of the human species is, "Learn everything you can about everything you can, because you never know what will turn out to be useful." Are you willing to sacrifice the chance of learning something because there's also a chance of not learning something? If so, please turn in your Homo sapiens membership card and proceed to the cage marked "Pan troglodytes".

:p

I think it's fair to say that the test matters a lot to the deaf children. If they indeed do poorly, it's the responsibility of this society to make sure they don't just linger in a state of educational limbo. It's just not right to condemn another human being to nothingness and a wasted life on account that they can't fully assimilate into "normal" society.

Everyone has the right to an education. If this test will help disabled people achieve and become functioning members of our society, then power to them. I think it's rather bigoted to say it doesn't matter... Are you aware that Stephen Hawking is physically retarded, yet he's probably more insightful/intelligent than most human beings alive on this world?

I think it matters. I'm not a proponent of the disabled, but it's not right to say they don't matter. They're human beings, and they have a right to be lifted up out of their restricted life.

I think it's fair to say that the test matters a lot to the deaf children. If they indeed do poorly, it's the responsibility of this society to make sure they don't just linger in a state of educational limbo. It's just not right to condemn another human being to nothingness and a wasted life on account that they can't fully assimilate into "normal" society.

Everyone has the right to an education. If this test will help disabled people achieve and become functioning members of our society, then power to them. I think it's rather bigoted to say it doesn't matter... Are you aware that Stephen Hawking is physically retarded, yet he's probably more insightful/intelligent than most human beings alive on this world?

I think it matters. I'm not a proponent of the disabled, but it's not right to say they don't matter. They're human beings, and they have a right to be lifted up out of their restricted life.
Intresting while the way the poster origionaly said it (testing to see if they did BETTER) while could prove to be the oposite, lead me to assume that they had a feeling they did better and qanted to quanify it

But for some reason you assumed they did worse and were the ones needing help
Intresting

I think that the possible importance is fairly obvious. Why wouldnt it be important to test the adequacy of education delivery for particular groups?

As another poster (above) points out, the information could be useful for research. If there is some systematic difference, finding out what that difference is, and enquiring into how it comes about could result in further information about human functioning.

Because there are some legtimate questions about how folks who are deaf or hearing disabled (like myself) process information when something has gone wrong.

I'm not sure of the actual study, but I know that with my hearing difficulties, I am a far stronger visual learner than I am an audio learner. Sucks at lectures, but I can usually do better with reading and visual cues than my classmates. Sinces tests are usually a visual thing and not audio, it could be something to check.

Interesting.

Because if they can find the actual cause of the differences they may be able to use that information to find ways to boost all education

Or, someone won a grant after proposing to do that study, and now they have to publish so they can win another grant.