NationStates Jolt Archive

Basically it is a pick the winners and rough scores from the massive International Rugby invasion which will start in like 30 odd hours or something.

Anyone interested?

WEEK 3 FIXTURES
This weeks games.

19/11/2005 England v New Zealand
19/11/2005 Italy v Argentina
19/11/2005 Ireland v Australia
19/11/2005 France v Tonga
19/11/2005 Scotland v Samoa
19/11/2005 Wales v South Africa
19/11/2005 Portugal v Fiji

yeah, go.

Basically this is how it will work.

Team A is playing Team B.

Know you have a choice in who will win.
I would say the Team A

But not only that you have to pick the margin range.
The options are 1-12,13-20,21+ and of course the much loved draw.
I would pick 1-12

If the final score is 17-16 to Team A then i would get 3 points
if i had said 13-20 i would get 2 points and if i had said 21+ i would get 1 point.

Picking the Draw correctly gets you 5 points as it is seldom seen.

Of course if you were to pick Team B who lost then you would get 0 points for that match.

It makes sense right?.


First Matches.
5/11/2005 Japan v Spain
5/11/2005 Wales v New Zealand
5/11/2005 Argentina v South Africa
5/11/2005 France v Australia
6/11/2005 Georgia v Uruguay
6/11/2005 Portugal v Chile

I will pick.....
Japan by 21+
All Blacks by 1-12
Argentina by 1-12
France By 1-12
Georgia by 1-12
Portugal by 13+

First Matches.


5/11/2005 Japan v Spain

Japan by 10 or 20 pts

5/11/2005 Wales v New Zealand

All blacks by 1 or 5 pts

5/11/2005 Argentina v South Africa

South Africa by 15-30 pts

5/11/2005 France v Australia

France by 5 to 10

6/11/2005 Georgia v Uruguay

dont care

6/11/2005 Portugal v Chile

dont care

First Matches.


5/11/2005 Japan v Spain
Japan by 10 or 20 pts
5/11/2005 Wales v New Zealand
All blacks by 1 or 5 pts
5/11/2005 Argentina v South Africa
South Africa by 15-30 pts
5/11/2005 France v Australia
France by 5 to 10
6/11/2005 Georgia v Uruguay
dont care
6/11/2005 Portugal v Chile
dont care
You know their are certain ranges for picking scores.

1-12
13-20
21+
Draw

You know their are certain ranges for picking scores.

1-12
13-20
21+
Draw

Sorry, not that much difference, and as a Brit, and half Irish, I have to say the following:

Tana Umanga is a bloody cheat, as is Kevin Mealamu.

Make sure you beat the welsh though....

Sorry, not that much difference, and as a Brit, and half Irish, I have to say the following:

Tana Umanga is a bloody cheat, as is Kevin Mealamu.

Make sure you beat the welsh though....
But i cant give you full points if you aint in a real range.

I agree they are cheats.
Tana also tried to foot trip one of the lions.:(

But i cant give you full points if you aint in a real range.

I agree they are cheats.
Tana also tried to foot trip one of the lions.:(

Fair enough, I'll edit it.

Damn good player though, and O'Driscoll's reation was good.

Plz plz plz beat the welsh....:)

First Matches.
5/11/2005 Japan v Spain
5/11/2005 Wales v New Zealand
5/11/2005 Argentina v South Africa
5/11/2005 France v Australia
6/11/2005 Georgia v Uruguay
6/11/2005 Portugal v Chile


Japan by 13-20. Japan have more experience, but basic handling skills will stop a rout.

New Zealand by 13-20. The Welsh can be as optimistic as they like. The ABs really should cruise through it though. Should, that is.

South Africa by 21+. The argies have a half decent pack with useless backs. It will be the Bryan Habana show on the wing for the boks.

France by 1-12. Picking any game involving France is always tough because you never know which team will turn up. As is, the aussies have been woefull this year, and I think it will continue.

Uruguay by 1-12. I'm sure both of these teams have been minnows at the WC in the past, but who knows really.

Portugal by 1-12. Ha. Yes.

Bump

Last train for Clarksville.

New Zealand 41
Tries: Rico Gear 3, Dan Carter 2. Pens: Carter 2 Cons: Carter 5.

Wales 3
Pens: Stephen Jones.

HT: 13-3.


I thought this was supposed to be a 'good' welsh team? You know you're supposed to put the ball down behind that white line thing, right?

Well they were missing 4 or 6 plyers.
I got up at 5 to watch it after going to bed at 2:30.
It was worth it.

France Bet Oz too.

http://ftp.die.net/mirror/wtc/images/K9.JPG

France:26
Tries: Heymans, Martin
Cons: Elissalde 2
Pens: Elissalde 3, Michalak

Australia:16
Try: Mitchell
Cons: Rogers
Pen: 3 Rogers

HT 10-9 France

Things of note:
Brendon Cannon managed to open his face on the outstretched elbow of Fabien Pelous expect the Frog to get a ban.

Argentina:23
Tries: Durand, Leonelli, M Contepomi
Con: F Contepomi
Pens: F Contepomi 2

South Africa:34
Tries: Montgomery, Fourie, Smith
Cons: Montgomery 2
Pens: Pretorius, Montgomery 3
DG: Conradie

HT My Beloved Pumas 20-16

Things of note:
De Villers Binned in the 47th

Japan:44
Tries: Tachikawa, Kikutani, Akatsuka, Oto, Onozawa
Cons: Hirose 5
Drop: Hirose
Pens: Hirose 2

Spain:29
Tries: Prieto, Feijóo, Mota
Con: Roqué
Drops: Sempere 2
Pens: Roqué 2

Things of note:
Japan dosent care about the teams performance Spain is proud.*
*This may or may not be true.

Obviously we have to wait for the Gimp games but yeah....

YEAH NEW ZEALAND.
I really feel sorry for Australia, their sport is falling apart. New Zealand has beaten them in League, Netball, Hockey, Rugby and Basketball recently. Sports Australia claimed they were better in.

They Punished us 4-0 in the Field Hockey in Sydney and bet us in both Mens and Womens Basketball.
But yeah Australia are bitches.

Sorry about the delay.

1)Harlesburg 2,1,0,3,3(?)*,3=12
2)Monkeypimp 3,2,1,3,0,2=11
3)Blessed Chris 3,1,2,3,0,0=9


*Uruguay vs Georgia was a no show for Uruguay.
I am guessing Georgia would get the win by default.



11/11/2005 Arabian Gulf v China WTF!!!!
12/11/2005 Portugal v Uruguay
12/11/2005 Georgia v Chile
11/11/2005 Wales v Fiji
12/11/2005 France v Canada
12/11/2005 Ireland v New Zealand
12/11/2005 England v Australia
12/11/2005 Scotland v Argentina
12/11/2005 Italy v Tonga

Sorry about the delay.

1)Harlesburg 2,1,0,3,3(?)*,3=12
2)Monkeypimp 3,2,1,3,0,2=11
3)Blessed Chris 3,1,2,3,0,0=9


*Uruguay vs Georgia was a no show for Uruguay.
I am guessing Georgia would get the win by default.



11/11/2005 Arabian Gulf v China WTF!!!!
12/11/2005 Portugal v Uruguay
12/11/2005 Georgia v Chile
11/11/2005 Wales v Fiji
12/11/2005 France v Canada
12/11/2005 Ireland v New Zealand
12/11/2005 England v Australia
12/11/2005 Scotland v Argentina
12/11/2005 Italy v Tonga

Arabian Gulf v China = China (?!?!) by 1-12. I second the WTF call.
Portugal v Uruguay = Portugal 13-20
Georgia v Chile = Georgia 21+
Wales v Fiji = Wales 13-20
France v Canada = France 21+
Ireland v New Zealand = NZ 13-20
England v Australia = Australia 1-12
Scotland v Argentina = Argentina 1-12
Italy v Tonga = Italy 1-12.

Arabian Gulf.. Wow.

Arabian Gulf v China = China by 1-12. -World Cup Qualifier's
Portugal v Uruguay = Portugal 13-20
Portugals Performance last week sounded clean with domination through all areas of the game.

Georgia v Chile = Georgia 21+
Georgia should take this one by 21+ they have a few good players(by Gumby standards) and one of their players is the Brother of a French international.
Halves and Centres should be the key.

Wales v Fiji = Wales 13-20
The Welsh should be looking to how how they can play after last weeks dismal (Under)performance if Fiji can play anywhere as good as they did in their match against France in the 99 World Cup things could be a lot different.

France v Canada = France 21+
France are missing Pelous but will still walk over the Canucks.


Ireland v New Zealand = NZ 13-20
NZ pick a New 15 but still should thrash the Micks.

England v Australia = England 1-12
I am thinking of flipping this completly Oz to lose 7 in a row is unbelievable.

Scotland v Argentina = Argentina 1-12
Argentina played well last week and really should have one but not playing for 80 minutes can kill you.

Italy v Tonga = Italy 1-12.
Italy without Kirwan as Coach will be interesting.
Alot of New Zealanders play for the Azure namely Persecoe and Whakarua two of their better players.

In other news Greece played their first ever match, against Austria going down 52-3.:)
http://www.fira-aer-rugby.com/article_detail.php?article=213

Sorry about the delay.

1)Harlesburg 2,1,0,3,3(?)*,3=12
2)Monkeypimp 3,2,1,3,0,2=11
3)Blessed Chris 3,1,2,3,0,0=9


*Uruguay vs Georgia was a no show for Uruguay.
I am guessing Georgia would get the win by default.



11/11/2005 Arabian Gulf v China WTF!!!!
12/11/2005 Portugal v Uruguay
12/11/2005 Georgia v Chile
11/11/2005 Wales v Fiji
12/11/2005 France v Canada
12/11/2005 Ireland v New Zealand
12/11/2005 England v Australia
12/11/2005 Scotland v Argentina
12/11/2005 Italy v Tonga

11/11/2005 Arabian Gulf v China China by 1-12

12/11/2005 Portugal v Uruguay Uruguay by 21+

12/11/2005 Georgia v Chile Georgia by 21+

11/11/2005 Wales v Fiji Wales by 13-20

12/11/2005 France v Canada France by 13-20

12/11/2005 Ireland v New Zealand Ireland by 1-12 (I'm going so they'd better win)

12/11/2005 England v Australia 2 bad teams... Australia by 1-12

12/11/2005 Scotland v Argentina Argentina by 1-12

12/11/2005 Italy v Tonga Italy by 13-20

Oh, and as far as Umaga not playing in Dublin is concerened, all I can say is: "You're a cheat and a pussy"

11/11/2005 Arabian Gulf v China - China 1-12
12/11/2005 Portugal v Uruguay - Uruguay 1-12
12/11/2005 Georgia v Chile - Georgia 1-12
11/11/2005 Wales v Fiji - Wales 12-20
12/11/2005 France v Canada - France 21+
12/11/2005 Ireland v New Zealand - New Zealand 21+
12/11/2005 England v Australia - Australia 12-20 (Aus will finally get their shit together and win comfortably)
12/11/2005 Scotland v Argentina - Argentina 1-12
12/11/2005 Italy v Tonga - Italy 13-20


Yes indeed. All Blacks by 21+? With a new team? The way they're going this year, I think so.

Ireland - All blacks, the only game that matters this weekend.


First question: The Irish are playing 2 opensides and a blindside for their loose trio in an attempt to combat Richie McCaw. Is that a move bound to backfire?

Oh, and as far as Umaga not playing in Dublin is concerened, all I can say is: "You're a cheat and a pussy"
What the fuck.. A pussy? Hes always been better than O'Driscoll. Stop complaining and bitching. It's over and done with.

What the fuck.. A pussy? Hes always been better than O'Driscoll. Stop complaining and bitching. It's over and done with.


Luckily for whoever the hell is #13 for the Irish, Nonu isn't the defender that Umaga is but he's fucking hard to tackle. Aaron Mauger rates him as the hardest player in world rugby to tackle, but then he's playing inside him so it doens't matter.

Yeah more people.

bump.

Late call for any games that havent commenced.

New Zealand 25-0 Ireland



At halftime. New Zealand were playing into the wind.





Pwned (so far)

Late try for the Irish.


All Blacks 45
Tries: Sitiveni Sivivatu 2
Piri Weepu,
Doug Howlett 2
Cons: Nick Evans 4
Pens: Nick Evans 4

Ireland 7
Try: Marcus Horan
Con: David Humphreys





So.... yeah.

YEAH NEW ZEALAND.
I really feel sorry for Australia, their sport is falling apart. New Zealand has beaten them in League, Netball, Hockey, Rugby and Basketball recently. Sports Australia claimed they were better in.
And they've lost in rugby too...

What the fuck.. A pussy? Hes always been better than O'Driscoll. Stop complaining and bitching. It's over and done with.
He's never been better than Brian which is why he ahd to be a cheating bastard and take the great man out of the game. Umanga shouldn't be playing anymore.

And they've lost in rugby too...
That was so obvious that it didnt need to be pointed out.

We got destroyed today.


Played better once Humphreys came on, though.

Did you see the semi-spear?

He's never been better than Brian which is why he ahd to be a cheating bastard and take the great man out of the game. Umanga shouldn't be playing anymore.

So you actually believe that Tana set out to and planed to take O'driscoll out during the game?

We got destroyed today.


Played better once Humphreys came on, though.

Did you see the semi-spear?
Hey that is out of line Nonu wasnt to blame so such semi spear occured...

So you actually believe that Tana set out to and planed to take O'driscoll out during the game?
You don't...?

So you actually believe that Tana set out to and planed to take O'driscoll out during the game?
No, I don't think he did at the start of the game. certainly though they meant to hurt him in the rook.

No, I don't think he did at the start of the game. certainly though they meant to hurt him in the rook.
You dont need to post with an accent you know.;)

We got destroyed today.


Played better once Humphreys came on, though.

Did you see the semi-spear?
Semi-spear you say? That guy milked it. As the commentators pointed out. Nonu's a big guy, the tackle was fine. Irish can't seem to handle being put on their shoulders. Maybe you all need to do a bit of bulking up. Then you wouldn't cry so much when you fall on them.. As with the Nonu tackle, there was no driving downwards. He just fell. Quit complaining. Except your horrific hiding and move on :).

Steve Hanson was right, it was poor technique. I thought it deserved a penalty, but not much more than that.

RESULTS
Arabian Gulf vs China, 24-22
Portugal vs Uruguay, 20-6
Georgia vs Chile, 29-6
Wales vs Fiji, 11-10
France vs Canada, 52-6
New Zealand vs Ireland, 45-7
England vs Australia, 26-16
Argentina vs Scotland, 23-19
Italy vs Tonga, 48-0

Week 2 Scoring Allocation.
1)Harlesburg 0,3,3,2,3,2,3,3,1=20
2)Monkeypimp 0,0,1,2,3,3,0,3,2=14
3)Blessed Chris 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0=0
4)Peisandros 0,3,3,2,3,2,0,3,1=17
5)Swisstonia 0,0,3,2,2,0,0,3,2=12


Standings
1)Harlesburg 32
2)Monkeypimp 25
3)Peisandros 17
4)Swisstonia 12
5)Blessed Chris 9

This weeks games.

19/11/2005 England v New Zealand
19/11/2005 Italy v Argentina
19/11/2005 Ireland v Australia
19/11/2005 France v Tonga
19/11/2005 Scotland v Samoa
19/11/2005 Wales v South Africa
19/11/2005 Portugal v Fiji

I'll give up some info on last weeks results when i can find it.
Portugal might be a mission though.:p

Semi-spear you say? That guy milked it.
He was dumped upside down into the ground. Head first.

How can you possibly milk that? It's bad enough as it is. It's just not acceptable in a game of rugby. Falls the wrong way, comes down too heavy, or lands badly = broken neck.

And the IRB appears to agree with me (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/international/4436218.stm)

England:26
Tries: Cohen, Cueto
Cons: Hodgson, Barkley
Pens: Hodgson 2, Barkley
Drop: Hodgson

Australia:16
Tries: Mitchell
Con: Rogers
Pens: Rogers 3

HT 10-6 England

Moment of the match: Perhaps slightly obscure, but Chris Latham's early counter-attack from a missed touch clearance was magnificent, dodging three tackles and making fifty metres with some terrific strength and pace.

He was dumped upside down into the ground. Head first.

How can you possibly milk that? It's bad enough as it is. It's just not acceptable in a game of rugby. Falls the wrong way, comes down too heavy, or lands badly = broken neck.

And the IRB appears to agree with me (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/international/4436218.stm)
You want to play.:)

THE IRB is Owned by Ireand though...

You want to play.:)

THE IRB is Owned by Ireand though...
Well, if that's not good enough...

How about the NZ coach? "We don't want those sorts of things happening in the game", "Such challenges have no place on a rugby pitch."

Well, if that's not good enough...

How about the NZ coach? "We don't want those sorts of things happening in the game", "Such challenges have no place on a rugby pitch."
I agree it was a bad tackle worthy of a penalty but nothing more.
But D'arcy did get up right after the penalty was awarded..

Play?

I agree it was a bad tackle worthy of a penalty but nothing more.

It's more the intention. The IRB really needs to show that even a half-spear, or somebody about to spear and changing their mind, or whatever, is just unacceptable.

Especially after nothing happened to yer man who speared O'Driscoll. That could have been alot worse.

New Zealand are a great team, but don't go about getting yourselves a reputation for being dirty players.

But D'arcy did get up right after the penalty was awarded..

Play?
Coincidence ;)

Yea, of course he was milking it. He had every right to.

It's more the intention. The IRB really needs to show that even a half-spear, or somebody about to spear and changing their mind, or whatever, is just unacceptable.

Especially after nothing happened to yer man who speared O'Driscoll. That could have been alot worse.

New Zealand are a great team, but don't go about getting yourselves a reputation for being dirty players.


Coincidence ;)

Yea, of course he was milking it. He had every right to.

If anything he'll get a 'careless tackle' charge, which is about what it was. I doubt there'll be a suspension unless they decide to be real dicks about it, which is more a problem with horrible inconsistencies with punishments in rugby anyway.

If anything he'll get a 'careless tackle' charge, which is about what it was. I doubt there'll be a suspension unless they decide to be real dicks about it, which is more a problem with horrible inconsistencies with punishments in rugby anyway.
Just slap something on him so everybody knows it's not a good thing to go about doing, and the IRB will punish you for it.

Shit, I just saw some highlights of the england - australia game. That aussie scrum really was in trouble. When one prop gets sent off because he can't hold his side up, and the other gets injured just through shear power of the other pack, you know you've got problems.


Anyway, the All Black team for saturday:

15: Mils Muliaina
14: Doug Howlett
13: Tana Umaga (captain)
12: Aaron Mauger
11: Sitiveni Sivivatu
10: Dan Carter
9: Byron Kelleher
8: Rodney So'oialo
7: Richie McCaw
6: Jerry Collins
5: Ali Williams
4: Chris Jack
3: Carl Hayman
2: Keven Mealamu,
1: Tony Woodcock

Reserves: Andrew Hore, Neemia Tialata, Jason Eaton, Mose Tuiali'i, Piri Weepu, Joe Rokocoko, Leon MacDonald.

It's more the intention. The IRB really needs to show that even a half-spear, or somebody about to spear and changing their mind, or whatever, is just unacceptable.

Especially after nothing happened to yer man who speared O'Driscoll. That could have been alot worse.

New Zealand are a great team, but don't go about getting yourselves a reputation for being dirty players.


Coincidence ;)

Yea, of course he was milking it. He had every right to.
NOnu didnt have any intentions of hurting him or of dumping him he just got under him and .........

I think Tana should have been given the arse i dont care if he is from Wellington or not.
He also tried to trip Williams with his foot(obviously) in the lions series.
I saw it but noone else talks of it.

Bump!

Shit, I just saw some highlights of the england - australia game. That aussie scrum really was in trouble. When one prop gets sent off because he can't hold his side up, and the other gets injured just through shear power of the other pack, you know you've got problems.
Yea. Andy Sheridan I think his name is? Should be awesome seeing him go at it with Carl Haymen. Two fantastic technical players. Can't wait.

19/11/2005 England v New Zealand
19/11/2005 Italy v Argentina
19/11/2005 Ireland v Australia
19/11/2005 France v Tonga
19/11/2005 Scotland v Samoa
19/11/2005 Wales v South Africa
19/11/2005 Portugal v Fiji

England v New Zealand - NZ 13-20
Italy v Argentina - Argentina 1-12
Ireland v Australia - Australia 1-12
France vs Tonga - France 12-20
Scotland v Samoa - Samoa 1-12
Wales v South Africa - South Africa 21+
Portugal v Fiji - Fiji 1-12

new zealands gunna kick ass, we have won the tri-nations, we have won the bledisloe cup, we totally smashed the lions in the lions tour on nz and we are just about to win the grand slam over in england, scottland, wales, and ireland, new zealand is the pinnical of international rugby!

Preview - England v New Zealand 18/11/05
England look to burst New Zealand's balloon
You have to hand it to those New Zealanders - is there anything they can't do? Slay Lions, dethrone Boks, tonk Wallabies, spank Celts, butter up royalty, dodge suspensions and land modest-looking Rugby World Cup bids against unfathomable odds.

Battle Stations: The All Blacks prepare for the English assault
Wags might pipe up with 'win the Rugby World Cup', but that dig looks set to expire in 2007.

In fact, the IRB's engravers should probably just cut 'New Zealand' into the Webb Ellis Trophy today and be done with it.

Actually, they might as well do it twice, for who will be able to better the hosts in 2011?

There's no doubt about it - the New Zealand juggernaut is flying high at the moment.

Wales and Ireland slid from its imperious nose like dazed bugs, unable to put even the tiniest ding in the black armour.

With all due respect to stuttering Scotland, it is now left to England to stop the menacing tourists from adding 'grand slam winners' to that impressive CV.

The only way New Zealand will fail to secure the clean sweep is if the English manage to stuff up the internal workings of the well-oiled machine - to be fat geese to the Celtic bugs and make a beeline for those purring engines.

England seem to have the tools to do this - a tight-five that could pass for those 'hideous gargoyles' of 2003, ability at the ruck and maul, and a functioning line-out.

But strength-in-depth is wafer-thin in all areas of this England team. It lacks a couple of incisive backs and a credible scavenger on the openside.

A good plan for Saturday would be to stick the ball up Andrew Sheridan's jumper and camp him in the black half - but the modern game doesn't allow for such Geoff Boycott-esque tactics, and nor do the modern skin-tight jerseys.

In direct contrast, All Black boss Graham Henry is nearing his goal of having at least two world-class players in each position.

To display this embarrassment of riches in injury-ravaged Europe comes across as slighty callous - it's the equivalent of enjoying an open-air jacuzzi in the middle of a drought-stricken village.

But you reap what you sow, and the All Blacks deserve to enjoy the fruits of their labour after two long years at the drawing-board.

Against this backdrop, it's no surprise that the bookmakers have already written off Saturday's hosts.

England find themselves in the odd position of being 9/2 outsiders at Twickenham, while New Zealand go in as odds-on 1/8 favourites.

England coach Andy Robinson was suitably encouraged by the 26-16 victory over Australia last weekend, but knows it will take a repeat performance - and more - in all aspects of the physical exchanges for his side to have any realistic chance on Saturday.

"The game of rugby is played right on the edge, and this is going to be a huge physical game," said Robinson.

"There are going to be some great hits, there is going to be some power scrummaging from both sides.

"We have got to stand toe-to-toe with that and make sure we are streetwise in the way we compete at every area, but also to match their physicality.

"It is about making our one-on-one tackles. Everyone has got to put their body on the line, take no backward step and be smart in being able to pick up their runners and knock them on the floor."

But the statistics are stacked against England, with only six victories recorded from 27 starts against New Zealand, while the All Blacks average almost 40 points a game in 2005, which includes a Tri-Nations title triumph and the 3-0 Test series whitewash of the Lions.

Putting it mildly, England have got it all to do. But if they can exert a degree of pressure on New Zealand - an area where Wales and Ireland failed miserably during the past fortnight - then who knows?

New Zealand have hardly been put on the back foot all year, so it will be down to the likes of Sheridan, his front row partners Steve Thompson and Phil Vickery, and locks Steve Borthwick and Danny Grewcock to stop their illustrious opponents at source.

If England emerge victorious, then it is likely to be a case of winning ugly, but any triumph against the All Blacks - however it is achieved - is gratefully received.

"New Zealand are a very special side, and they have achieved a lot in the last year," said Robinson.

"The depth in talent they have means they could pick two strong sides over the last two weeks, and this third side is a combination of the two.

"They compete at every single aspect of the game, and that is the challenge you have to be able to withstand. We have to take the game to them."

Far easier said than done, of course, but do not be surprised if England run them close before the All Blacks glitterati - Dan Carter, Doug Howlett, Mils Muliaina and company - ultimately have the final say.

Players to watch:

For England: Andy Robinson referred to Mike Tindall as "the heart beat of the side" on the eve of the Wallaby game - if so, a quick hit from the defibrillator could come in handy ahead of Saturday. It was great to see the burly centre back on the Test stage after so many injury setbacks, but he struggled to impose himself on proceedings. It was probably just a little rust, but he needs a big game against New Zealand if he wishes to avoid the fate of his erstwhile England partner, Will Greenwood.

For New Zealand: Dan Carter may provide the flourishes but it's the work-rate and cunning of the forwards that provide the platform to New Zealand's game. If England make the slightest error at the breakdown they will find themselves faces a conversion just seconds later. The try will surely have been scored by one of the fancy-pants backs but the applause will go to the big guys. In the sad absence of Richie McCaw, lock Chris Jack will assume responsibility of the black pack. He'll need to keep his wits about him against an English side that is hungry for a physical encounter.

Head-to-head: Andrew Sheridan (England) v Carl Hayman (New Zealand): If you didn't now about Andrew Sheridan last week, you do now. The papers have been falling over themselves to laud the Sale Sharks strongman after his demolition job on the Wallabies. Indeed, it was the sort of the performance that most props think they've had after they've downed their constitutional 12 pints of bitter at the post-match shin-dig. But the glowering figure of Carl Hayman is a very different proposition to Al Baxter. At 1.93m and 115kg he is only marginally smaller than Sheridan, but he's got experience. He's taken on the best front rowers in the game and will refuse to serve up another picnic for 'Big Ted'.

Prediction: England will offer a stiff challenge to the tourists, but there's no accounting for pure talent and no defending against New Zealand's startling counter-attacks. The Wallabies managed to find gaps in the white defence - expect the New Zealanders to find avenues. New Zealand by 12 points.
sportingodds.com prediction: New Zealand by 15 points.

Recent results:

2004: New Zealand won 36-12 at Eden Park, Auckland
2004: New Zealand won 36-3 at Carisbrook, Dunedin
2003: England won 15-13 at Westpac Trust, Wellington
2002: England won 31-28 at Twickenham, London
1999: New Zealand won 16-30 at Twickenham, London (RWC)
1998: New Zealand won 10-40 at Eden Park, Auckland
1998: New Zealand won 22-64 at Carisbrook, Dunedin
1997: Draw - 26-26 at Twickenham, London
1997: New Zealand won 8-25 at Old Trafford, Manchester

The teams:

England: 15 Josh Lewsey, 14 Mark Cueto, 13 Jamie Noon, 12 Mike Tindall, 11 Ben Cohen, 10 Charlie Hodgson, 9 Matt Dawson, 8 Martin Corry (captain), 7 Lewis Moody, 6 Pat Sanderson, 5 Danny Grewcock, 4 Steve Borthwick, 3 Phil Vickery, 2 Steve Thompson, 1 Andrew Sheridan.
Replacements: 16 Lee Mears, 17 Matt Stevens, 18 Louis Deacon, 19 Chris Jones, 20 Harry Ellis, 21 Olly Barkley, 22 Mark van Gisbergen.

New Zealand: 15 Mils Muliaina, 14 Doug Howlett, 13 Tana Umaga (captain), 12 Aaron Mauger, 11 Sitiveni Siviatu, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Byron Kelleher, 8 Rodney So'oialo, 7 Chris Masoe, 6 Jerry Collins, 5 Ali Williams, 4 Chris Jack, 3 Carl Hayman, 2 Keven Mealamu, 1 Tony Woodcock.
Replacements: 16 Andrew Hore, 17 Neemia Tialata, 18 Jason Eaton, 19 Mose Tuiali'i, 20 Piri Weepu, 21 Joe Rokocoko, 22 Leon MacDonald.

Mcaw is out.

19/11/2005 England v New Zealand NZ 13-20
19/11/2005 Italy v Argentina Argy 13-20
19/11/2005 Ireland v Australia OZ 1-12
19/11/2005 France v Tonga Frogs 21+
19/11/2005 Scotland v Samoa Scotland 1-12
19/11/2005 Wales v South Africa Jarps 21+
19/11/2005 Portugal v Fiji Fiji 1-12

2005: Italy won 30-29, in Cordoba
2005: Argentina won 35-21, in Salta
2002: Argentina won 36-6, in Rome
2001: Argentina won 38-17, in Buenos Aires
1998: Italy won 23-19, in Piacenza
1997: Italy and Argentina drew 18-18, in Lourdes
1995: Argentina won 26-6, in Tucuman
1995: Italy won 31-25, in East_London
1989: Argentina won 21-16, in Buenos Aires
1987: Argentina won 25-16, in Christchurch

England:26
Tries: Cohen, Cueto
Cons: Hodgson, Barkley
Pens: Hodgson 2, Barkley
Drop: Hodgson

Australia:16
Tries: Mitchell
Con: Rogers
Pens: Rogers 3

Wales:11
Try: Owen
Pen: Robinson
Drop goal: Robinson

Fiji:10
Try: Rawaqa
Con: Vulakoro
Drop goal: Bai

HT 7-0 Fiji

News of note
Fiji missed four penalty attempts in the match, Wales two and a conversion, two of them easy kicks

All Blacks 23
Tries: Tana Umaga,
Keven Mealamu.
Cons: Dan Carter 2.
Pens: Carter 3.


England 19
Try: Martin Corry.
Con: Charlie Hodgson.
Pens: Hodgson 4.


And I'll be sending an england jersey out to a certain whistle blower tomorrow. He can wear it in his next match.

heh, bring on the scots..


(off to bed)

So close from england, we should havewon that....WHY DID WE GO WIDE? We where owning the All Blacks in the forwards so why go wide?

Oh, adn the ref was awful, he gave England nothing, (Both trys where illigal;-forward passes) and gave the All Blacks everything! :angry:

All Blacks 23
Tries: Tana Umaga,
Keven Mealamu.
Cons: Dan Carter 2.
Pens: Carter 3.


England 19
Try: Martin Corry.
Con: Charlie Hodgson.
Pens: Hodgson 4.


And I'll be sending an england jersey out to a certain whistle blower tomorrow. He can wear it in his next match.

heh, bring on the scots..


(off to bed)
Oh, adn the ref was awful, he gave England nothing, (Both trys where illigal;-forward passes) and gave the All Blacks everything! :angry:
MWhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
ROFLMAO you guys watch the same game?
Allblacks with 14 men for 25 minutes.
Cohen aint bad for a Jew but he ballsed up.
When Woodcock had a few minutes left on his binning England should have gone to the corner not take a penalty.

he mucked up yes, and it was the right decision to take the penilty, it was the wrong decision to go wide at the end.

Wales:16
Try: Sweeney
Con: S Jones
Pens: S Jones 3

South Africa:33
Tries: Habana 2, Jantjes, Rossouw
Cons: Bosman 2
Pens: Montgomery 3
HT 11-6 BOKS

Horsman and Monty sent off.

Argentina:39
Tries: Tiesi, Leonelli, Stortoni, Aramburu
Cons: Contepomi 2
Pens: Contepomi 5

Italy:22
Try: Canale
Con: Pez
Pens: Pez 5

Ireland:14
Try: Horgan
Pens: O'Gara 2, Humphreys

Australia:30
Tries: Mitchell 2, Latham
Cons: Rogers 3
Pens: Rogers 3

HT 6-3 Aus

France:43
Tries: Lièvremont, Rougerie, Clerc 2, Jauzion
Cons: Yachvili 3
Pens: Yachvili 4

Tonga:8
Try: Vaki
Drop goal: Tu'ipulotu

HT 10-9 France

Fiji:26
Tries: Kunavore, Ratuvou, Qovu, Gadolo
Cons: Prasad 2, Vulakoro

Portugal:17
Tries: Aguilar, Ferreira
Cons: Pinto 2
Pens: Pinto

HT 19-10 Fiji

Fiji are ranked 9th in the world by the IRB, the Portuguese 15th.

Week 3 Scoring Allocation.
1)Harlesburg 2,3,2,3,3,2,3=18
2)Peisandros 2,2,2,2,3,2,3=16
3)Monkeypimp=0
4)Blessed Chris=0
5)Swisstonia=0


Standings
1)Harlesburg 50
2)Monkeypimp 25
3)Peisandros 33
4)Swisstonia 12
5)Blessed Chris 9

This weeks games.
AFRICAN Challenge
26/11/2005 Morocco v Madagascar
ENC=GIMPS
26/11/2005 Israel v Norway
26/11/2005 Bulgaria v Slovenia
26/11/2005 Latvia v Switzerland
RWC07 QUAL
26/11/2005 Netherlands v Andorra
Tour Matches
26/11/2005 England v Samoa
26/11/2005 France v South Africa
26/11/2005 Ireland v Romania
26/11/2005 Scotland v New Zealand
26/11/2005 Wales v Australia
26/11/2005 Italy v Fiji

This is pretty much the last week so i went with a lot of minor games too.

Ahh wtf. Insane games lol. And cab't be bothered checking up on them. So here goes.

Morocco v Madagascar - Morocco 1-12
Israel v Norway - Norway 21+
Bulgaria v Slovenia - Bulgaria 13-20
Latvia v Switzerland - Switzerland 21+
Netherlands v Andorra - Netherlands 21+
England v Samoa - England 13-20
France v South Africa - South Africa 1-12
Ireland v Romania - Ireland 21+
Scotland v New Zealand - New Zealand 21+
Wales v Australia - Australia 13-20
Italy v Fiji - Italia 13-20

bump

These games suck. I hope some get coverage on Rugby Channel though. Could be fun to watch.

ustria 43-3 or something close to.;)

Fuck i am an Idiot.
Dont have a clue but due to timezones probably played though no resluts are in......
Israel v Norway - Norway 1-12
Latvia v Switzerland - Switzerland 1-12
Bulgaria v Slovenia - Slovenia 1-12
Think these just started....
Netherlands v Andorra - Andorra 1-12
Morocco v Madagascar - Madagascar 1-12
I know these matces havent been played......
France v South Africa - South Africa 13-20
Wales v Australia - Australia 13-20
............

England 40 - 3 Samoa
Ireland 43 - 12 Romania
Italy 28 - 3 Fiji
Scotland 10 - 29 New Zealand

Indiedents of note for England Samoa, 2 players ent off, 2 Samoian sin binned (Should ahve been more.) Huge fight involving 20+ players, Vandell scored on his first cap. Freshwater 1st cap. One hell of a game.

Indiedents of note for England Samoa, 2 players ent off, 2 Samoian sin binned (Should ahve been more.) Huge fight involving 20+ players, Vandell scored on his first cap. Freshwater 1st cap. One hell of a game.
So did Samoa loose 4 players?

So did Samoa loose 4 players?
should have then, Moody was sent off as as taligli, there should have been several others in the huge fight that followed.

should have then, Moody was sent off as as taligli, there should have been several others in the huge fight that followed.
Oh i see.
you know what was awesome?
Kiwis vs Kangaroos in the Rugby league.

Oh i see.
you know what was awesome?
Kiwis vs Kangaroos in the Rugby league.
League bores me, I can't watch more than 5 minautes without getting fustrated by the stupidity of it all..hit,hit,hit,hit,hit,kick,
hit,hit,hit,hit,hit,hit,kick
hit,hit,hit...ect.

Australia lost to Wales as well.




Listening to radio sport today it's been all Rugby League after taking down australia 24-0. We did the grand slam and it's been overshadowed, although we were expected to beat Scotland well and were never expected to win the league, let alone keep australia scoreless...

Australia lost to Wales as well.




Listening to radio sport today it's been all Rugby League after taking down australia 24-0. We did the grand slam and it's been overshadowed, although we were expected to beat Scotland well and were never expected to win the league, let alone keep australia scoreless...
I only had 2 1/2 Hours sleep last night and to be fair the Kiwi Kangaroo Game was far more exciting than the prospect(and eventual act) of winning the Grand Slam for me.

I flicked to Sky News and so a Poll asking who was to blame for Australias oor performance so i figured they had lost-SIlly Wallabies.

The England v Samoa game was funny. The tackle that started the big fight was so illegal. It was cool. Haha, Lome Fa'atau was at my cousins wedding last year, he was in control of the Vodka at the reception.
Anyway, the Scotland v AB's game sucked. The league was awesome. Thrashed them.

The England v Samoa game was funny. The tackle that started the big fight was so illegal. It was cool. Haha, Lome Fa'atau was at my cousins wedding last year, he was in control of the Vodka at the reception.
Anyway, the Scotland v AB's game sucked. The league was awesome. Thrashed them.
Do you have the Rugby Channel?

Do you have the Rugby Channel?
Yes, yes I do. But it sucks. All their games are in WS. However, is still good to watch the other international games that are on.

What exactly is Wide Screen?
Apart from a load of BS?

England 40
Tries: Voyce 2, Hodgson, Ellis, Varndell
Cons: Hodgson 3
Pens: Hodgson 3

Manu Samoa 3
Pen: Vili

Yellow card(s): Va'a (Samoa) 65, collapsing the scrum; Vili (Samoa) 68, dangerous tackle.

Red card(s): Moody (England) 75, fighting; Tuilagi (Samoa) 75, dangerous tackle.

Ireland 43
Tries: Trimble 2, N Best, O'Connor, Murphy, Dempsey
Pens: Humphreys
Cons: Humphreys 5

Romania 12
Pens: Mitu 4

Yellow card(s): Manta, 35 - killing the ball
Villain of the Match: Nobody - all good, clean fun.

For Wales:
Tries: S Williams, Penalty Try
Con: S Jones
Pens: S Jones 5

For Australia:
Tries: Tuqiri, Sharpe, Latham
Cons: Rogers 2
Pen: Rogers

France 26
Tries: Szarzewski, Rougerie
Cons: Michalak
Pens: Elissalde 2, Michalak

South Africa 20
Tries: Botha, Fourie
Cons: Montgomery 2
Pens: Montgomery, Bosman

Villain of the Match: South African skipper John Smit for his elbow into Jérôme Thion. At best it was reckless.

Italy 23
Tries: Ongaro, Mirco Bergamasco
Cons: Pez 2
Pens: Pez 3

Fiji 8
Try: Luveitasau
Pen: Bai

Scotland 10
Try: Webster
Con: Paterson
Pen: Paterson

New Zealand 29
Tries: Gear 2, Evans, Lauaki
Cons: Evans 2, MacDonald
Pen: Evans

FULL RESULTS
26/11/2005 Morocco 43-6 Madagacsar
26/11/2005 Latvia 42-6 Switzerland
26/11/2005 Bulgaria 27-14 Slovenia
26/11/2005 Israel 15-17 Norway
26/11/2005 Netherlands 51-0 Andorra
26/11/2005 England 40-3 Samoa
26/11/2005 Wales 24-22 Australia
26/11/2005 Italy 23-8 Fiji
26/11/2005 Scotland 10-29 New Zealand
26/11/2005 France 26-20 South Africa
26/11/2005 Ireland 43-12 Romania

WEEK 4 POINTS
1)Peisandros 1,0,3,1,3,2,0,3,2,0,3=18
2)Harlesburg 0,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,0,0,0=3
3)Monkeypimp=0
4)Blessed Chris=0
5)Swisstonia=0

Standings
1)Harlesburg 53
2)Peisandros 51
3)Monkeypimp 25
4)Swisstonia 12
5)Blessed Chris 9

CONGRATULATIONS GO TO ME!
Though it was close with only 2 points in it in the end.
Maybe next year.

Well done, you won your own competiton when I stoped playing :p

Ahem. And I believe I missed the first week? Not sure and can't be bothered checking either. Oh well. Lol, good effort.

Well done, you won your own competiton when I stoped playing :p
Yeah talk it up i built up such a lead you couldnt have touched me:p .

Ahem. And I believe I missed the first week? Not sure and can't be bothered checking either. Oh well. Lol, good effort.
Yeah you did and i forgot to make picks for almost half the games for the last round.:eek:

Yeah you did and i forgot to make picks for almost half the games for the last round.:eek:
Aha! A certain victory if I'd had that first week. I'm clearly superior.

Aha! A certain victory if I'd had that first week. I'm clearly superior.
If Monkeypimp had bumped it up again i would have remembered and made my full picks.*Shifty eyes*

Does qualifying for the 2007 WC continue?

Just in case anybody up north was unsure about how good their teams were:

List of Award winners:

IRB International Player of the Year: Daniel Carter (New Zealand)
IRB International Team of the Year: New Zealand
IRB International Coach of the Year: Graham Henry (New Zealand)
IRB International U19 Player of the Year: Isaia Toeava (New Zealand)
IRB International U21 Player of the Year: Tatafu Polota-Nau (Australia)
IRB International Sevens Team of the Year: Fiji
IRB International Sevens Player of the Year: Orene Ai’i (New Zealand)

RANK COUNTRY RATING
1 (1) New Zealand 93.32
2 (2) South Africa 88.76
3 (4) France 86.10
4 (3) Australia 83.93
5 (5) England 83.27
6 (6) Wales 82.54
7 (7) Ireland 80.03
8 (8) Argentina 78.16
9 (10) Scotland 73.60
10 (9) Fiji 73.11

Ocmplete crap-

Oz better than England!!!!

South Africa better than France????

South Africa better than France????
Yes. France suck now.

Fuck Australia. So much for Anzacs huh?

Yes. France suck now.

Fuck Australia. So much for Anzacs huh?
France beat South Africa I'll think you'll find.

Yes.. And South Africa beat New Zealand earlier this year. Last year New Zealand beat France by 40 points. Hmm.

South Africa have only lost 2 games this year. NZ only overtook them as the #1 team at the end of the tri nations.

Does qualifying for the 2007 WC continue?
What do you mean?

What do you mean?
Yes it does, he means the teams that arn't in the top 10 in the world who have to qualify.

Yes it does, he means the teams that arn't in the top 10 in the world who have to qualify.
Yeah it was that or if we were still playing this.....

Yeah it was that or if we were still playing this.....
I think it was justa general question mate.

I think it was justa general question mate.
Cool.
My answer is yes the WCQ continues.