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Who is the better of the walking dead?

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I'm gonna go with the good old dead-heads here, Zombies. Each zombie is powerful, both individually and in numbers. Individually, although zombies are generally slower and at times weaker than humans, they do not slow down, nor tire, nor need to eat. They can continue fighting in conditions that most humans would be exhausted from. In groups they are often virtually unstoppbale unless large-scale military action is taken, and their numbers can increase expotentially within literally hours.

Vampires, whilst fear-inducing, are often few in numbers and cannot fight as well as Zombies. They are also often reliant on others to do their bidding, and have severe physical limitations, i.e. sunlight killing them, silver, holy water etc. Zombies can only be killed via severe damage to the cranial region or decapitation.

I'm gonna go with the good old dead-heads here, Zombies. Each zombie is powerful, both individually and in numbers. Individually, although zombies are generally slower and at times weaker than humans, they do not slow down, nor tire, nor need to eat. They can continue fighting in conditions that most humans would be exhausted from. In groups they are often virtually unstoppbale unless large-scale military action is taken, and their numbers can increase expotentially within literally hours.

Vampires, whilst fear-inducing, are often few in numbers and cannot fight as well as Zombies. They are also often reliant on others to do their bidding, and have severe physical limitations, i.e. sunlight killing them, silver, holy water etc. Zombies can only be killed via severe damage to the cranial region or decapitation.

Actually, vampires are adept at combat and have remarkable resilence to physical attacks. They are not harmed by sunlight, contrary to popular belief. They merely lose the powers they have during the night. One vs. one, I'd say a vampire would win hands down. They retain their intelligence while zombies lose their mind entirely. A zombie would not know to use silver, holy water, or anything but its own two hands. A vampire could find the zombie's weakness and take the necessary action. However, if zombies severely outnumbered the vampires, I have no doubt that they would overrun them and come out victorious.

Actually, vampires are adept at combat and have remarkable resilence to physical attacks. They are not harmed by sunlight, contrary to popular belief.
Considering almost all of vampire mythos IS popular belief, that's a hard statement to defend. OTOH zombies suck; only retards get killed by zombies.

Considering almost all of vampire mythos IS popular belief, that's a hard statement to defend. OTOH zombies suck; only retards get killed by zombies.

So thats why they always take over America in the movies?

So thats why they always take over America in the movies?
*Shrugs* You said it.:)

Another false dichotomy! What rules all is a zombie army with vampiric leadership. :p

I'd have to say vampires. They strike me as more dangerous and more competent than zombies.

Well, this discussion will go nowhere. Everyone has their own beliefs about the strength and weaknesses of zombies and vampires. I suggest rephrasing the question, Quentin, to be more specific.

Vampires have Dracula, zombies have Jesus.

Hmm, it's a tough choice.

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how exactly?

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Holy humogous picture, batman! Please, remove the image tags, as having it load in-line is really screwing up the page.

What about werewolfs?

I say vampires are just snobby aristocrats. I go for the brainless masses!

What about werewolfs?


Do werewolves really count? Theyre not human but they're still alive.

how exactly?

Attaching vampires and zombies to a certain film, book, something that lets us know what kind you're talking about. Mindless zombies? Or agile, cunning zombies that work together?

Holy humogous picture, batman! Please, remove the image tags, as having it load in-line is really screwing up the page.

If you insist...

You would make a good Robin.

Zombies in mass, Vampires in mass... hmm... well, you'll never find vampires in mass, so zombies win when in numbers, regardless of how pathetic they are.

A single zombie? Pretty pathetic, even if it is agile, cunning and what not, at least compared to a single vampire.

And!
contrary to unpopular belief, the skills and abilities of vampires are determined by popular belier because they are...

*drum roll*

...mythical!

And therefore the only true definition of a vampire is depedant on popular belief. So saying 'contrary to popular belief' is like saying... well, I don't know yet, but I'll get back to you on that one.

Do werewolves really count? Theyre not human but they're still alive.
Yeah, but they're way cooler than either zombies or vampires. Zombies are mindless creatures with no style. Vampires have always seemed kind of gay to me. They're all about sucking, you know? Now that's fine for some people, but I prefer werewolves. Normal guy most of the time, superhuman, primal killing machine the rest of the time. There's something really neat about that.

Yeah, but they're way cooler than either zombies or vampires. Zombies are mindless creatures with no style. Vampires have always seemed kind of gay to me. They're all about sucking, you know? Now that's fine for some people, but I prefer werewolves. Normal guy most of the time, superhuman, primal killing machine the rest of the time. There's something really neat about that.

The sexual overtones (homo or heterosexual) are fairly consistent in Vampire mythos which is certainly more then can be said for Zombies. :D

Werewolves are cooler though, by far.

If Vampires are a symbol for the status quo and Zombies for rebellion, what do Werewolves stand for? The schizophrenia of our daily lifes?

If Vampires are a symbol for the status quo and Zombies for rebellion, what do Werewolves stand for? The schizophrenia of our daily lifes?

I suppose its becoming a totally differant person on a night out

I say zombies make a better example of being the walking dead. I mean... they're just so obviously dead. Vampires on the other hand... what is up with that? They might as well be living people, only they have some silly things like not having a reflection and needing to drink blood. They're more a different species than they are the walking dead.

Come to think of it, if they're both supposed to be dead, would zombies even attack vampires? I mean, zombies don't ever seem to attack other zombies...

... Wait, are vampires even considered the walking dead? Aren't they more that whole weird 'undead' principle?

If Vampires are a symbol for the status quo and Zombies for rebellion, what do Werewolves stand for? The schizophrenia of our daily lifes?

Duel nature or contradiction of character, suppressed emotions (particularly anger), animalistic undertones of humanity... take your pick.

If Vampires are a symbol for the status quo and Zombies for rebellion, what do Werewolves stand for? The schizophrenia of our daily lifes?
The repressed wild, violent, shadow psyche buried in all of us. It's locked away because we can't have a functioning society if someone cutting in front of you in line results in a knife fight every time, but that part is still there and needs to be set loose once in a while.

Vampires have Dracula, zombies have Jesus.

Hmm, it's a tough choice.
Well, when you put it that way...

As I'm basing all my supernatural knowledge from World of Darkness, I'd say vampires. They're cunning, excellent fighters, they have different clans for each task... Though werewolves pwns 'em one-on-one... or twnty-to-one for the vampires, but werewolves are too easily manipulated, and against older vampires they're toast.

Zombies in mass, Vampires in mass... hmm... well, you'll never find vampires in mass, so zombies win when in numbers, regardless of how pathetic they are.

A single zombie? Pretty pathetic, even if it is agile, cunning and what not, at least compared to a single vampire.

So hand to hand, vampires win easy. Zombies' strength is in their numbers. Also, zombies can turn people into other zombies...I can't remember if vampires can turn people into other vampires.

And!
contrary to unpopular belief, the skills and abilities of vampires are determined by popular belier because they are...

*drum roll*

...mythical!

And therefore the only true definition of a vampire is depedant on popular belief. So saying 'contrary to popular belief' is like saying... well, I don't know yet, but I'll get back to you on that one.

Guess what? We all know vampires are mythical. So are zombies. We can determine what their powers are at will. The same is true of dragons, griffins, hobgoblins, leprechauns, trolls, unicorns, xorns, and yetis. We all know that dragons reign supreme among this group, but only because mythology and the Dungeons and Dragons people say so.

Who cares? Eric Draven would take them both out, 'cause he's the coolest undead there ever was.

Guess what? We all know vampires are mythical. So are zombies. We can determine what their powers are at will. The same is true of dragons, griffins, hobgoblins, leprechauns, trolls, unicorns, xorns, and yetis. We all know that dragons reign supreme among this group, but only because mythology and the Dungeons and Dragons people say so.

Have you ever been in a commuter train at 6 o'clock in the morning? Zombies are no mythical creatures. They are everywhere!! :eek:

Vampires are superior. Brains and some muscle always beat slightly more muscle, but no brains. No, the Frankenstein monster is not a zombie. He's a meat puppet. He has intelligence and feelings;two things zombies lack. Frankenstein isn't a zombie either. He's a mad scientist who created his loving creation from dead people parts.

Werewolves stand for dual nature. It's like how some people are slobs when alone, but the cleanest people you know when they have company. They're like those priests. They're like you guys. They're like cake, not pie.

zombies-mythical
vampires-mostly mythical, but the modern versions were inspired by the real Dracula[son of dracul]. Dracula's real name is something I can't seem to remember, but he was a brutal tyrant. When he became ruler, he threw a party for thousands of guests. All of them were impaled on spikes and set up as an example of Dracula's evil. Yes, Dracula even drank blood. Yes, impalement is a slow and painful process usually. The way Dracula survived when he was a kid was brutal. He was first to stand on a tall spike. Slowly, the spike went up his ass. I mean slowly. It kills when it reaches the heart. Not a very pleasant way to go. No, Dracula didn't turn into a bat. He was just a homocidal blood-drinker.

Wasn't their a woman that supposedly drank blood? Bathory was it or am I confusing her with someone else... not sure if she was supposed to be a vampire or not. :confused:

Wasn't their a woman that supposedly drank blood? Bathory was it or am I confusing her with someone else... not sure if she was supposed to be a vampire or not. :confused:

Their are lots of people who drink or have drank blood but it dosen't make them vampires.

Their are lots of people who drink or have drank blood but it dosen't make them vampires.
I'm aware of that. She was a big time serial killer back in the day; hundreds of victims supposedly and she contributed to the vampire mythos because she drank and bathed in blood.

Or so the story goes anyway... I'll look into it.

EDIT: Yeah, it was Bathory, Elizabeth Bathory. A Hungarian chick from the 1600s. Wiki link <-- (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bathory)

I'm aware of that. She was a big time serial killer back in the day; hundreds of victims supposedly and she contributed to the vampire mythos because she drank and bathed in blood.

Or so the story goes anyway... I'll look into it.
She liked to torture teenage girls to death and believed their blood, whether drunk or bathed in, kept her youthfull.

Vamps forever!

Cunning, accumulated wisdom, sneaky, strong and sexy! They rule from behind the scenes, never destroy the whole food supply.

Zombies are stupid, they take over the world and eat their food supply, nothing left.


Vamps win!;)

Vampires, but not whiny emo ones. Zombies suck.

Vampires, but not whiny emo ones. Zombies suck.
No, vampires suck. Zombies chew.

She liked to torture teenage girls to death and believed their blood, whether drunk or bathed in, kept her youthfull.

Maybe she was the inspiration for the baddie "the countess" in Diablo II. This may mean nothing to you if you haven't played, but I think its interesting.

Maybe she was the inspiration for the baddie "the countess" in Diablo II. This may mean nothing to you if you haven't played, but I think its interesting.
You're right. It does mean nothing to me.:)

What's Diablo II?

You're right. It does mean nothing to me.:)

What's Diablo II?

It's a (quite old) hack & slash CRPG, where the player had to defeat a demon called Diablo, the Lord of Terror (one of the "prime evils") and his minions.

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo2/

vampires-mostly mythical, but the modern versions were inspired by the real Dracula[son of dracul]. Dracula's real name is something I can't seem to remember, but he was a brutal tyrant. When he became ruler, he threw a party for thousands of guests. All of them were impaled on spikes and set up as an example of Dracula's evil. Yes, Dracula even drank blood. Yes, impalement is a slow and painful process usually. The way Dracula survived when he was a kid was brutal. He was first to stand on a tall spike. Slowly, the spike went up his ass. I mean slowly. It kills when it reaches the heart. Not a very pleasant way to go. No, Dracula didn't turn into a bat. He was just a homocidal blood-drinker.
I don't want to turn this thread into a history lesson, but you're wrong. The real Dracula, called Vlad Tepes (the Impaler), was a medieval prince of Wallachia. The only element of truth is that he did use the impalement extensively, but the story about that party..:rolleyes:

The reason he's so well known today is that he revoked the comercial privileges the German merchants of Brasov (a city in Transylvania) had in his country. I don't remember exactly the circumstances, but I think they disregarded his measures, and in retaliation he organized a raid to punish them, in which he impaled all the city inhabitants he could capture. After that, quite naturally, those guys started hating him. They wrote pamphlets against him and, since they wore written in German, they also circulated in Central Europe, from where the story spread and was ultimately used by Bram Stoker as a source of inspiration for his novel.

Maybe she was the inspiration for the baddie "the countess" in Diablo II. This may mean nothing to you if you haven't played, but I think its interesting.
I'd always taken that as a given, because I wasted my youth learning such crap. Other elementary schoolers had Sunday School and Barney, I had the Old Testament and Ted Bundy.

In other news:
Vampires would so kick zombie ass. Zombies aren't clever enough to figure out how to kill a vampire, whereas any idiot with a sword or a rifle can take down a zombie.

zombies-mythical
vampires-mostly mythical, but the modern versions were inspired by the real Dracula[son of dracul]. Dracula's real name is something I can't seem to remember, but he was a brutal tyrant. When he became ruler, he threw a party for thousands of guests. All of them were impaled on spikes and set up as an example of Dracula's evil. Yes, Dracula even drank blood. Yes, impalement is a slow and painful process usually. The way Dracula survived when he was a kid was brutal. He was first to stand on a tall spike. Slowly, the spike went up his ass. I mean slowly. It kills when it reaches the heart. Not a very pleasant way to go. No, Dracula didn't turn into a bat. He was just a homocidal blood-drinker.

Ah... That cheery guy Vlad Ţepes. Always a riot at parties, but you should never drop your bar of soap if you should find yourself showering with him. (He ain't called "the Impaler for nothing now, is he? Eh? Eh? ... Sorry about that :rolleyes: )

Anyway... Here's the article on the guy from Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad

On another note:
I think Vampires are more fun because they have more personality and a bit more *bite*. Zombies are, after all, only mindless killing-machines. Only after Braaaaaaaaaaaaains...

Actually Zombies are based of the Vodoo religion where shamans could reanimate the dead to do their bidding. So you'll have to ask a Vodoo adept to learn what zombies can and cannot do.

As for the fight... has anyone seen/read Hellsing? From that i think you could discern that Vampires could trash a zombie easily.

I'd always taken that as a given, because I wasted my youth learning such crap. Other elementary schoolers had Sunday School and Barney, I had the Old Testament and Ted Bundy.

In other news:
Vampires would so kick zombie ass. Zombies aren't clever enough to figure out how to kill a vampire, whereas any idiot with a sword or a rifle can take down a zombie.
Wait, you used to hang out with Ted Bundy in Sunday School? WTF?

Wait, you used to hang out with Ted Bundy in Sunday School? WTF?
No, other kids read about Purple Dinosaurs and went to Sunday School, I read about Ted Bundy and got my religion from the Old School of Fire, Brimstone, and Genocide. Everyone should read the Old Testament, that stuff is the shit. The New Testament, however, was just another example of a silly, watered-down sequel that disobeyed all the rules set forth in the original.

vamps are sexy and tormented . zombies are just plain dumb and unintresting.

No, other kids read about Purple Dinosaurs and went to Sunday School, I read about Ted Bundy and got my religion from the Old School of Fire, Brimstone, and Genocide. Everyone should read the Old Testament, that stuff is the shit. The New Testament, however, was just another example of a silly, watered-down sequel that disobeyed all the rules set forth in the original.
Oh, you used to read the old testament and books about serial killers. Me too.

Oh, you used to read the old testament and books about serial killers. Me too.
Great stuff, eh? I feel that it has shaped my entire life, and will someday lead me to my ultimate purpose: Killing a whole lot of people by beating them to death with Bibles.

Actually, the stories about the party and Dracula's drink are true. I always trust the history channel/discovery channel over the internet. His name technicly is Dracula, which does mean son of Dracul, who was his father. He did survive impalement somehow and wasn't exactly known for human rights. He eventually died somehow. I forgot how.

vampires-Dracula ^^^^^^^^^^^
zombies-movies, Resident Evil(all, except 4), and voodoo.

vampires-intelligent, with full free-will capabilities. Can use weapons, but only if they aren't holy and/or made out of Garlic.
zombies-there's a reason they're after brains. They don't have any.

vampires-known for being sexy
zombies-known for falling apart

vampires-sexiness
zombies-maggots

vampires-drink blood
zombies-starved to death trying to get nutrients from Homer Simpson

vampires-drinking blood increases number of vampires
zombies-biting people pisses me off

Vampires-can beat zombies with ease
zombies-can't even survive Resident Evil

vampires-early Zelda games
zombies-couldn't even make the cut for Resident Evil 4.

Vampires>Zombies

Great stuff, eh? I feel that it has shaped my entire life, and will someday lead me to my ultimate purpose: Killing a whole lot of people by beating them to death with Bibles.
The other kids didn't know what they were missing. There was incest, alcohol abuse, arson, mutilation and death. And that was in the religious text!

Actually, the stories about the party and Dracula's drink are true. I always trust the history channel/discovery channel over the internet. His name technicly is Dracula, which does mean son of Dracul, who was his father. He did survive impalement somehow and wasn't exactly known for human rights. He eventually died somehow. I forgot how.
He probably failed to continue living. That gets most people in the end.
vampires-intelligent, with full free-will capabilities. Can use weapons, but only if they aren't holy and/or made out of Garlic.
zombies-there's a reason they're after brains. They don't have any.
Do they make many weapons out of garlic where you come from? Somehow I don't think that you could make a very effective bazooka out of food products.

The other kids didn't know what they were missing. There was incest, alcohol abuse, arson, mutilation and death. And that was in the religious text!
You forget all the times YHWH tells the Jews to just run in and kill everyone, or when he got tired of waiting for someone else to do it and went in himself. YHWH could be quite a guy when he felt so inclined.

You forget all the times YHWH tells the Jews to just run in and kill everyone, or when he got tired of waiting for someone else to do it and went in himself. YHWH could be quite a guy when he felt so inclined.
How about this old gag

God: Hey Abe, kill your son

Abe: Wtf? Kill my son? That's just crazy!

God: If you care about me you'll kill him. Remember what happens to people who don't care about me?

Abe: OK

*ties son to pile of wood and prepares to kill him and burn him as a sacrifice*

God: Just kidding! You can let your traumatized, horrified son go.

He probably failed to continue living. That gets most people in the end.

Do they make many weapons out of garlic where you come from? Somehow I don't think that you could make a very effective bazooka out of food products.
I've made a rope out of garlic. You can use that to inflict harm on someone. Therefore, rope is a weapon. Disagree and I'll harm you with it until you agree that it can be used to inflict harm. Now I just need my Garlic gun and my garlic tank, complete with garlic missile launcher and I'll be all set to whoop you with my garlic rope.

I've made a rope out of garlic. You can use that to inflict harm on someone. Therefore, rope is a weapon. Disagree and I'll harm you with it until you agree that it can be used to inflict harm. Now I just need my Garlic gun and my garlic tank, complete with garlic missile launcher and I'll be all set to whoop you with my garlic rope.
Not if I take you down with my Linguini sniper rifle before you get here.

<sniptastic>
Yeah, that gag was indeed great.
Unfortunately, when I tried threatening one of my neighbour's life if he didn't kill his son, everyone just got all pissy. I suppose the white coats sapped their sense of humour away.

Actually, the stories about the party and Dracula's drink are true. I always trust the history channel/discovery channel over the internet. His name technicly is Dracula, which does mean son of Dracul, who was his father. He did survive impalement somehow and wasn't exactly known for human rights. He eventually died somehow. I forgot how.
Lol. That is a memorable comment. :D

And now some more history. Vlad Tepes was never impaled himself as far as I know. Also, his family's name was Draculea. The Hungarians were unable to pronounce the "ea" diphtong, so they changed the name into Draculia, and ultimately into Dracula. The stories are 'true' if you are willing to believe the accounts of the very people who had very good reasons to hate him. I'd say they're not a very reliable source.

I'm not contesting he actually impaled people, but we must be realistic. If we look on wikipedia, we can see many inaccuracies:
In 1459, on St. Bartholomew's Day, Dracula had thirty thousand of
the merchants and boyars of the Transylvanian city of Brasov impaled.
Come on, let's be serious! There weren't that many inhabitants in the entire city!
Dracula began his reign of terror almost as soon as he came to
power. His first significant act of cruelty may have been motivated by a
desire of revenge as well as a need to solidify his power. Early in his main
reign he gave a feast for his boyars and their families to celebrate Easter.
Dracula was well aware that many of these same nobles were part of the
conspiracy that led to his father's assassination and the burying alive of his
elder brother, Mircea. Many had also played a role in the overthrow of
numerous Wallachian princes. During the feast Dracula asked his noble
guests how many princes had ruled during their life times. All of the nobles
present had out lived several princes. One answered that at least thirty
princes had held the throne during his life. None had seen less than seven
reigns.
On this (http://www.eliznik.org.uk/RomaniaHistory/wallachian-rulers.htm) site, you can see that less than thirty princes had ever reigned in Wallachia before him. And anyway, those guys should have been 200 years old to have survived so many reigns.

There are more things that don't make sense in the tales about him, but I won't bother to point all of them out.

vampires-intelligent, with full free-will capabilities. Can use weapons, but only if they aren't holy and/or made out of Garlic.

The next time I plan a terorist attack, I'll certainly bring my holy garlick-made AK-47.:)

Do they make many weapons out of garlic where you come from? Somehow I don't think that you could make a very effective bazooka out of food products.

Have you not seen the home-made potato-cannon? A kind of mortar that fires potatoes? Imagine a mortar firing garlic - and imagine a Vampire getting hit in the head by a piece of garlic travelling at the speed of, I don't know, 50 km/h? Should slow it down, I would imagine. ;)

Really, people. Obviously, vampires are best because what skanky nut would want to date a zombie? I ask you. :rolleyes:

Vampires are often rationalised as not being dead, whereas zombies are always dead. Zombies are better at being undead, given that.

So, the question is: What would a zombie say? We asked this recently dead man.

"Hrh rh brrrh rh hrh arng ra, zrmbrrh rrh amrrrh? Zrmbrrh, rh rrrrh! Ahrrgh amrrrh rh harh brainssssh, hrh rh rh. Braaaaahn!"

So there you have it. No surprise there, the zombies like zombies better than vampires. Back to you, John.

(For more zombie-related shenanigans, see http://www.urbandead.com/ - fun for the whole family!)

zombies would just eat all the humans (like they always do) and the vampires would starve because of it if they tried to suck zombie blood they would become infected themselves

vampires would most likely die out even without zombies due to all the funky diseases they would get from sucking loners who wonder the streets at night and/or emo’s and Goths wanting to be "dark"

whereas zombies would spread everywhere eventually biting/eating every living thing

zombies would just eat all the humans (like they always do) and the vampires would starve because of it if they tried to suck zombie blood they would become infected themselves

vampires would most likely die out even without zombies due to all the funky diseases they would get from sucking loners who wonder the streets at night and/or emo’s and Goths wanting to be "dark"

whereas zombies would spread everywhere eventually biting/eating every living thing
Assuming that zombies have any circulation in the first place. I suspect a vampire wouldn't get very far trying to suck somebody's blood if they have no blood pressure.

Vampires are often rationalised as not being dead, whereas zombies are always dead. Zombies are better at being undead, given that.

That's what I was saying! Zombies make better walking dead than vampires do.

That's what I was saying! Zombies make better walking dead than vampires do.
Yep. I'm with you on that one. SF zombies aren't any less dead, but the vampires are always infected with an odd virus or a related predatory species or something, and not dead at all.
There's even some of the fantasy stories where the vampires aren't dead. Poppy Z Brite, for a start...

Zombies-can be re-killed by fire, nuclear explosions, crushing, being dropped in a volcano, being sent to the sun, being killed, etc.

Vampires-only holy things, super-garlic, and wooden stakes can kill them. Apparently, they are immune to metal stakes and wooden steaks. They are also fire-proof.

Zombies-can be re-killed by fire, nuclear explosions, crushing, being dropped in a volcano, being sent to the sun, being killed, etc.

Vampires-only holy things, super-garlic, and wooden stakes can kill them. Apparently, they are immune to metal stakes and wooden steaks. They are also fire-proof.
Really? I've seen a fair bit of fiction where they get burned to death or killed by having their heart or brain destroyed.

Really? I've seen a fair bit of fiction where they get burned to death or killed by having their heart or brain destroyed.

Burning always works... Fire is good, fire is cleansing and purifying, fire solves all your problems™

Stake through the heart and cutting of the head should work fine against vampires. Also sunlight and holywater. Garlic and holy symbols seems to hurt them, but I don't know if it would kill them. Some claim silver works well (see Blade) but I think they've got vampires mixed up with werewolfs - an easy mistake to make, it would seem.

Zombies eat brains, vampires have brain. Thus vampires rule.

Zombies eat brains, vampires have brain. Thus vampires rule.
There are quite a few intelligent vampires in the literature. they don't all eat brains, either.

Burning always works... Fire is good, fire is cleansing and purifying, fire solves all your problems™

Stake through the heart and cutting of the head should work fine against vampires. Also sunlight and holywater. Garlic and holy symbols seems to hurt them, but I don't know if it would kill them. Some claim silver works well (see Blade) but I think they've got vampires mixed up with werewolfs - an easy mistake to make, it would seem.

Silver was considered a holy metal by the early church, so it would work on any particularly evil or ungodly creature. It's just best known for being anti-werewolf.

Vampire American is a term used to refer to person of Vampyre ethnic origin who is a citizen of or immigrant to the United States. Throughout American history, Vampire Americans have endured discrimination and negative portrayals in mainstream media due their cultural dispositions for evil and consuming the blood and life force of others. Despite these factors, the Vampire American community continues to make strides in American society, simultaneously achieving in academia, science, politics, and business while preserving their blood-sucking cultural identity. Some Vampire Americans prefer the more PC term Undead Americans.

Read the rest here. http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Vampire_Americans

Silver was considered a holy metal by the early church, so it would work on any particularly evil or ungodly creature. It's just best known for being anti-werewolf.

But of course! It's so simple, and so logical. Why didn't I see this before. Everything makes sense now...

Zombies eat brains. they need the grey metter because they don't have any.

Vampires have brains. They have a basic concept of "weapon" and "pain". They also have a concept of "thing that not good" and "someone set up us the bomb".

Burning always works... Fire is good, fire is cleansing and purifying, fire solves all your problems™

Stake through the heart and cutting of the head should work fine against vampires. Also sunlight and holywater. Garlic and holy symbols seems to hurt them, but I don't know if it would kill them. Some claim silver works well (see Blade) but I think they've got vampires mixed up with werewolfs - an easy mistake to make, it would seem.

One source I read claimed that dead werewolves would come back as vampires, and so would people who commit suicide. Obviously this is the non-contagious kind of vampire. Worryingly it would mean that a lot of vampires would be emo kids.

Zombies are cool & tough. Vampires are a bit wishy-washy & poofy.

One source I read claimed that dead werewolves would come back as vampires, and so would people who commit suicide. Obviously this is the non-contagious kind of vampire. Worryingly it would mean that a lot of vampires would be emo kids.
Not really. Emo kids are characterized by a lack of balls that will never allow them to actually go through with it and finish the act.
It does mean that a lot of vampires would have some gambling debts somewhere.

Wasn't their a woman that supposedly drank blood? Bathory was it or am I confusing her with someone else... not sure if she was supposed to be a vampire or not. :confused:

Someone may have answered this already, but her name was Elizabeth Bathory. She was a Hungarian countess, who was extremely sadistic and thought bathing in/drinking the blood of virgins would give her immortality. She is said to have murdered about 600 girls, torturing many of them first, sometimes in sexual ways. From what I have heard, she kept a diary that detailed some of her crimes.

Anyway, vampires can think, and are usually portrayed as being extremely smart. Zombies usually can't think at all. Vampires would figure out how to kill zombies fairly quickly, zombies would take longer to find an effective means of killing vampires. Vampires' ability to think means that they can wield weapons, while zombies are again handicapped by their lack of a brain.

In terms of an all out battle between the two, it would depend on how many of each there were. Vampires in a decent large group would probably win, even against many zombies. The fewer vampires, the higher chance of the zombies winning simply through overwhelming the vampires through numbers.

It's a (quite old) hack & slash CRPG, where the player had to defeat a demon called Diablo, the Lord of Terror (one of the "prime evils") and his minions.

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo2/

Diablo 2 is old?! Damn... when did that happen? I feel so ancient now. But yes, I think it's pretty obvious that the countess that you kill in that is based on Elizabeth Bathory.

Vampires are the clear victor they may qualify as undead but still maintain the same cellular function. Zombies are deteriorated and are already half gone!

Zombies are cool & tough. Vampires are a bit wishy-washy & poofy.
But, vampires now use firearms, grenades, and run gigantic mafia like underground organizations. Just see "Underworld". Zombies? They're still doing the same thing, but those mummies from "The Return of the Mummy" sure could run.

Mummies > Vampires > Zombies

Its a food chain, that is if the zombies still have enough blood in them....

Lessee. On one hand we have a mindless lumbering hulk with limited dexterity only capable of understanding and following single syllable commands, and on the other hand, a cruel, cunning, nearly immortal creature that can pass itself off as a human at night.
Vampires are quite a bit tougher and nastier than zombies.

Zombies are cool & tough. Vampires are a bit wishy-washy & poofy.
Bah Vampires are all class.
Zombies are like Lepers!

Bah Vampires are all class.
Hey, you can sleep with vampires, right, even if they're undead because they're still fleshy? That's a bonus, over say, rotting corpses.

Hey, you can sleep with vampires, right, even if they're undead because they're still fleshy? That's a bonus, over say, rotting corpses.
Yeah well Zombies eat your Brain and then you are undead and have no feelings or a mind of your own and so a Zombie would not think about Sex.

Vampires on the other hand.........

Female Vampires are almost always Beuatiful Busty Austrian Countess' and i find fangs like that to be a bit of a turn on.

Yay for Vampires.

Yay for Vampires.
Yay! I personally like the Romanian countesses. Yay!

Yay! I personally like the Romanian countesses. Yay!
I am actually a big fan of Romania.
*Points to Nations Flag*

Yes they too are well endowed.

Yay! I personally like the Romanian countesses. Yay!

Actually, During Elizabeth Bathory's time, Transylvania was a part of Hungary, ruled over by Hungarian nobility (including countesses, like loony Liz herself). Transylvania only became part of Romania due to Hungary being on the wrong side in two world wars.

But... the point still stands... sleeping with a vampiress would be pretty cool... whilest sleeping with a zombie would not.

Well, the funniest thing I have read in this thread so far is that "werewolves are cake, not pie." Is that not the most incomprehensible metaphor you have ever heard?

I think you should compare how many films that have been made about either vampires or zombies. That'll tell you the answer. Probably.

Well with zombies once you finally kill the brain then they are dead out for good (until soem other stupid scientist/biulder/random person makes the same mistake as before) where as if you kill a vamipre you still have to scatter the ashes to the four winds other wise all it takes is one drop of blood and they are back.

Vampires are also capable of making slaves (thralls) of varying degrees of vampire power and mindlessness, so they could proabably create a small army of physically powerful slaves to defend themselves with...

Of course when yous tart talking about necromancy you then have another choice: Skeletons or zombies? I hvae no idea about real codified differences but i eblive that skeletons have no connection left with physical desires so are more able to concentrate on fighting rather than eating brains...

Vampires are also capable of making slaves (thralls) of varying degrees of vampire power and mindlessness, so they could proabably create a small army of physically powerful slaves to defend themselves with...
These slaves could also be used as pleasure slaves, ensuring that vampires are mindlessly stimulated in a strange kinky sort of way. And any guest who wanders into their halls to be brought to sexual exhuation because of "physically powerful slaves." Once the vampiresses retire to their coffins of course. :D

Vampires are #1, even if they might not come from Romania, politically at least....

Zombies eat brains. they need the grey metter because they don't have any.
I hate to have to be the one to tell you this, but there's other zombie fiction besides Dawn/Day/Night/Return of the Living Dead. Try reading Green Eyes by Lucuis Shephard or watching I Zombie: The Chronicles Of Pain. There was even a couple of episodes of Urban Gothic (a low budget horror television series) dealing with smart zombies...