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Anyone in college? Then please help me out!

Strobovia
03-11-2005, 10:54
Ok here's the deal.
I had the options of choosing one of four free subjects. I had to choose one.

1. Private Economy

2. German

3. Psychologi and Cultural Understanding

4. Math


I choosed Private Economy but after several weeks I found out that the subject didn't interrested me as I thought, but now it's too late to change!
What should I do? Endure the classes and learn nothing or stay away and get low grades? (or kicked out)
Pure Metal
03-11-2005, 10:58
if its uninteresting then thats baaad - try seeing somebody like a tutor and just asking flat out if its possible to change

if its not, is it easy? if it is, scrape through doing the bare minimum. if its hard, i pity you because i've been there myself
Bogmihia
03-11-2005, 11:03
Can't you skip some classes but learn for the exam? Or maybe the presence matters to the teacher?
Strobovia
03-11-2005, 11:06
I have already tried asking the teacher if I can change but I just can't. And yes the precence of the student matters. And if I skip too many classes I get kicked out!:(
Neu Leonstein
03-11-2005, 11:07
What should I do? Endure the classes and learn nothing or stay away and get low grades?
Endure the classes...I'm not sure what a "Private Economy" course is all about, but I do Economics at Uni, and I can tell you that you can make everything interesting if you add a bit of background stuff.

You see, every theory has someone who invented it...and if you look at that person's political, social and other views, it adds a lot of depth to the material.

But that's just me...if you think you can pass the exam without going to classes, go for it!
Laerod
03-11-2005, 11:08
I'd say 2, but that's because I'm German. Otherwise, Psychology and Cultural Understanding sounds like fun to me (and it would be an asset for debating on NationStates).
Bogmihia
03-11-2005, 11:09
I have already tried asking the teacher if I can change but I just can't. And yes the precence of the student matters. And if I skip too many classes I get kicked out!:(
Skip as many as you can get away with, then learn for the exam. Or, of course, you can try cheating. ;)
Mariehamn
03-11-2005, 11:10
So, is there a difference between College and University? I use the terms interchangably, and I thought only American's have colleges, but then again, I'm not nearly as wordly as I like to think.

Anyhow, go with Philosophy or something. That sounds good.
Pure Metal
03-11-2005, 11:12
Endure the classes...I'm not sure what a "Private Economy" course is all about, but I do Economics at Uni, and I can tell you that you can make everything interesting if you add a bit of background stuff.

You see, every theory has someone who invented it...and if you look at that person's political, social and other views, it adds a lot of depth to the material.

But that's just me...if you think you can pass the exam without going to classes, go for it!
plus studying economics gives you a great footing and understanding for many intellectual disciplines throughout life, not to mention being able to apply your understanding to most decisions - every-day and otherwise - you ever make ever again.... economics rules your life once you know it :p
Neu Leonstein
03-11-2005, 11:13
So, is there a difference between College and University?
Here in Oz, the institution is a University, where you do your bachelor's degree and so on.
A College is the buildings where students live (and for a lot of money, might I add).
Strobovia
03-11-2005, 11:14
Skip as many as you can get away with, then learn for the exam. Or, of course, you can try cheating. ;)
Actually I'm doing that already but if the teacher gets suspicious he might call my parents and believe me that's NOT good. This smilie represent my father if that would happen::headbang: (that's my head banging in the wall)
Pure Metal
03-11-2005, 11:16
So, is there a difference between College and University? I use the terms interchangably, and I thought only American's have colleges, but then again, I'm not nearly as wordly as I like to think.

here in the UK a college tends to be a sixth-form college (kinda like high school), while uni is.... a uni (suprise suprise). though we also have it the same as the australian system (above), but that tends to be only for the older uni's (like christ's college, cambridge uni)
the US system still confuses me, especially when you add in the fact that so many seem to go to postgrad school or something - is that post uni or post college diploma or something? i don't know! :confused:
here in the UK, postgrad = post uni-degree level, so thats either a masters, doctorate, or just another totally seperate subject...

see, cultural understanding class is right here ;)
Mariehamn
03-11-2005, 11:17
Here in Oz, the institution is a University, where you do your bachelor's degree and so on.
A College is the buildings where students live (and for a lot of money, might I add).
So its bloody expensive everywhere?

Anyhow, yeah, we call the sleeping quarters in the States dorms if on campus, and fraternities generally are located off campus. Colleges and Universities do both and can give you bachelor's degrees, etc.

And I personally find non-American education system confusing, even though I'm participating in one right now. Heh, the American way is so streamlined until you get up to the College/Univeristy level it can be kinda confusing. Thx, for the responses, I get asked the difference all the time!
Strobovia
03-11-2005, 11:19
So its bloody expensive everywhere?

No here in Denmark it's government funded.
Mariehamn
03-11-2005, 11:20
No here in Denmark it's government funded.
Now that I think about it, I think it is also like that in Finland and Sweden.
Strobovia
03-11-2005, 11:23
Now that I think about it, I think it is also like that in Finland and Sweden.
As far as I know it is.
Der Drache
04-11-2005, 05:02
here in the UK a college tends to be a sixth-form college (kinda like high school), while uni is.... a uni (suprise suprise). though we also have it the same as the australian system (above), but that tends to be only for the older uni's (like christ's college, cambridge uni)
the US system still confuses me, especially when you add in the fact that so many seem to go to postgrad school or something - is that post uni or post college diploma or something? i don't know! :confused:
here in the UK, postgrad = post uni-degree level, so thats either a masters, doctorate, or just another totally seperate subject...

see, cultural understanding class is right here ;)

In the US the terms university and college are used interchangably. Technically I think universities tend to be big research institutions, while colleges tend to be smaller liberal arts institutions. Both give bachler degrees. Though I think colleges rarely give masters and almost never doctorates. Universities commonly give both (though I think there are exceptions).

When you go to get a masters or a doctorate you say you are going to graduate school (or law or medical school). All this means is that you are going to a university (generally the same ones that offer bachlers degrees).

Some people go to special programs between undergrad and graduate school simply to beef up their applications for graduate school. I forget what these programs are called. Most people that I know that do this are trying to either get into a really good school or simply weren't competent enough to get in anywhere otherwise.

As far as I know their is no postgrad school. Though many people do something called a post doc after recieving their doctorate. This isn't really a degree granting program. It's simply what you are doing while you prove yourself so that you can get a better paying job. This is common place in certain fields (such as the sciences) and is not only in the US.
Good Lifes
04-11-2005, 17:51
Ok, I'm not a college student right now, but I received my Masters in 1977 and have taught college classes off and on since. You have a simple problem. BAD ATTITUDE. With that attitude you hold I doubt if you will make it through to a degree. If you do make it through, long term employment will be questionable.

During my 7 years as a student I missed 7 class periods, 4 of those because of field trips for other classes. Were there classes that I struggled with? YES. But I never took a class that hasn't been valuable in the working world. And even if there were a class that offered no valuable information, That is one of the lessons an employee needs. Most work is not glamorous and interesting. Most work is rather boring. If you can't stand a few weeks of that, Never apply for a job with me.

Going back as far as Aristotle, a person needed a broad base of knowledge. When one thinks of a solution to a problem, that solution is an amalgam of the knowledge you have placed in your mind and are able to draw upon. The less storehouse of knowledge, the less able you will be to discover the best solution. An ideal employee never stops adding to that storehouse. It matters not if the knowledge in seems to relate to the job. All knowledge relates to all knowledge.

As for you, I recommend that you drop out of college and go to trade school. They will teach you how to do a job (but not how to develop a new idea). Of course, even then you will need to continue to study as trades constantly change. But you won't have to worry about the boring parts of management, like finding those new ways to do things and passing them on to the people in the trade.