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Research into an unusually high prevalence of a particular set of genes in China has suggested that 1.5 million Chinese men are direct descendants of Giocangga, the grandfather of the founder of the Qing dynasty.

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4396246.stm)

:eek: Well... I don't really know what to say .

Good on him! :D

I wonder how many of them will get a chance to make more offspring though...

IIRC from my Central Asia class, about 6 million+ are descended from Genghis Khan.

High ranking Asians seem to have been very prolific.

IIRC from my Central Asia class, about 6 million+ are descended from Genghis Khan.

High ranking Asians seem to have been very prolific.

Thousands in the Hazara ethnic population in Afghanistan are believed to be derived from one alpha male - Chengiz khan.

The poor blighters were massacred by the taliban..that's another matter..

So thats why they all look alike.

So thats why they all look alike.
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So thats why they all look alike.

You win this thread.

NEWS FLASH: All humans come from the same mother...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/neanderthals/mtdna.html

Did that guy get any sleep ever?

NEWS FLASH: All humans come from the same mother...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/neanderthals/mtdna.html

It's not so much all coming from the same mother, it's just that at some point every family line has interbred with that woman's female descendents and produced more females.

It's not so much all coming from the same mother, it's just that at some point every family line has interbred with that woman's female descendents and produced more females.

That would be a highly unprobbable occurrence dont you think?

That would be a highly unprobbable occurrence dont you think?

Nah. 200,000 years ago was near the dawn of Homo sapien sapien. There weren't that many of us around then; it doesn't seem unlikely that everybody was related somehow. That all those lines bore females also isn't surprising, as humans have a tendency to have a lot of children, and there's a 50-50 chance that any given child would be male or female.

That would be a highly unprobbable occurrence dont you think?

Not that much. Matriarchal tribal societies are not unusual.

So thats why they all look alike.

Now, all that is needed is to find out the ancestry of the Japanese and Koreans.

So what, all humans come from Adam and Eve!;)

Nah. 200,000 years ago was near the dawn of Homo sapien sapien. There weren't that many of us around then; it doesn't seem unlikely that everybody was related somehow. That all those lines bore females also isn't surprising, as humans have a tendency to have a lot of children, and there's a 50-50 chance that any given child would be male or female.

Not to mention that there's been 200 000 years for all the family branches to intertwine, and that covers a LOT of generations, especially since people bred and died younger in the past.

Also, there's the fact that she's just our EARLIEST common ancestor. Any sisters she had, and her mother and her mother's sisters, and her mother's mother and her sisters, and on and on up the matriarchal line would all have the same mitochondrial DNA, yes? Which leads to a much larger spead than even just her daughters having daughters having daughters.

Wait...which BBC site is the fake one?

Wait...which BBC site is the fake one?

There's a fake one?

They traced all humans to one guy who lived a long time ago. 20,000 or 120,000 years I can't remember. Hence forth his name shall be Bob. Uncle Bob actually.

That Giocangga is one bad mutha (Shut yo mouth!)
Just talkin' 'bout Giocangga!
(We can dig it!)

They traced all humans to one guy who lived a long time ago. 20,000 or 120,000 years I can't remember. Hence forth his name shall be Bob. Uncle Bob actually.

I have an Uncle Bob....He's not that kind of guy.

Actually, has anyone noticed how similar the native americans looked (yes looked; most pure native americans are somewhat tainted with european somewhere along the line) to Central Asian people....tibet and whatnot?

I have an Uncle Bob....He's not that kind of guy.

Actually, has anyone noticed how similar the native americans looked (yes looked; most pure native americans are somewhat tainted with european somewhere along the line) to Central Asian people....tibet and whatnot?

Yes, the Native Americans are an Asiatic people. During the Ice Age, people from Central Asia went over the temporarily-dry Bering Strait to get to the New World. With the exception of the diffusion of the Polynesians, that was the most recent major human migration until the age of Colonialism.

Yes, the Native Americans are an Asiatic people. During the Ice Age, people from Central Asia [more at Northern/North-Eastern Asia] went over the temporarily-dry Bering Strait to get to the New World. With the exception of the diffusion of the Polynesians, that was the most recent major human migration until the age of Colonialism.

Evidence presently seems to indicate several disparate waves of migration (not necessarily by way of land bridge, at that).

They traced all humans to one guy who lived a long time ago. 20,000 or 120,000 years I can't remember. Hence forth his name shall be Bob. Uncle Bob actually.


Phew! Close one. For a second I thought you were going to say Bob Jones.

Oh, and Genghis Kahn is widely believed to be the "most successful human", as far as passing on ones own seed goes. You can take the test to see how you will do here...

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=6936188936100731841