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What is the best music?

DistortedCloud
02-11-2005, 02:36
Favorite music
Posi
02-11-2005, 02:49
Favorite music
Metal
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 02:51
Metal
Agreed.
Heron-Marked Warriors
02-11-2005, 02:51
Metal

seconded, basically.

Although what I really like is music that is original, that doesn't just steal ideas from other people and make an annoying spammy poll about them! **straightens tie**
DistortedCloud
02-11-2005, 02:52
Metal

metal has no skill, its a bunch of guys bashing drums and screaming, like slipknot
Branin
02-11-2005, 02:55
Favorite music
Depends on my mood.

Those that stand above the others:

Jazz (particularly Modern, Big Band, and Bop)
Classic Rock
Romantic(1800ish-1900ish) (Bethoven all the way baby.)
Lots of 20th century classical (Shastocowich(sp?) pwns)
And some rock is starting to get good again.
This is by no means a complete list.
Nadkor
02-11-2005, 02:55
metal has no skill, its a bunch of guys bashing drums and screaming, like slipknot
OK, get a band together and try playing metal.

It is ridiculously hard. Complex guitars, heavy drums etc. and the screaming that you dismiss so easily is very, very hard to do if you want to sound good and not destroy your throat.
Heron-Marked Warriors
02-11-2005, 02:57
metal has no skill, its a bunch of guys bashing drums and screaming, like slipknot

Cogent argument there, mate. You managed to find one example of a bad metal band (still just in your opinion) and that allows you to write off an entire genre? Nice work.

Coincidentally, have you actually listened to any other heavy metal? Or are you really so blinded as to dismiss it all on slipknot?
Branin
02-11-2005, 02:57
OK, get a band together and try playing metal.

It is ridiculously hard. Complex guitars, heavy drums etc. and the screaming that you dismiss so easily is very, very hard to do if you want to sound good and not destroy your throat.
Most do destroy their throat, it is hard. I had to quite a metal band (bassist, back up vocal), and turn down an invite to lead sing another because it was wreaking havoc on my voice. And the complexity depends totally on the band. Some are moronically simple, others are damn near impossible.
Nadkor
02-11-2005, 02:58
Most do destroy their throat, it is hard. I had to quite a metal band (bassist, back up vocal), and turn down an invite to lead sing another because it was wreaking havoc on my voice. And the complexity depends totally on the band. Some are moronically simple, others are damn near impossible.
OK, most top quality metal is very complicated stuff. That do? ;)
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 02:59
metal has no skill, its a bunch of guys bashing drums and screaming, like slipknot
Slipknot is borderline metal. Many do not consider Slipknot metal, since Slipknot lack any real depth.
Branin
02-11-2005, 02:59
OK, most top quality metal is very complicated stuff. That do? ;)
Close enough for now.
Nadkor
02-11-2005, 03:00
Slipknot is borderline metal. Many do not consider Slipknot metal, since Slipknot lack any real depth.
They do have a couple of excellent songs though.
San Texario
02-11-2005, 03:00
I'm a ska kid myself. I love a lot of the early third wave stuff (with the punk influence) as well as the pop-ska, and a lot of the trad and british 2-tone. What really gets me is the arrangement of all the parts with the horns, bass, keys, guitar, and drum riffs.
DistortedCloud
02-11-2005, 03:03
but i dont see the point of listening to guys scream into mikes, and not being able to understand what the song is actually about. Music has to be enjoyed, and metal doesnt fall into that category.
Smunkeeville
02-11-2005, 03:04
I am what you might call an eclectic. I like music period and listen to a whole range of genres from metal to classical, punk to country.

Most of my favorite bands are punk though, but that doesn't mean I don't respect other types of music.

The only thing that really makes me sick to my stomache though is pop. (from the last 10 years anyway)
DistortedCloud
02-11-2005, 03:04
I'm a ska kid myself. I love a lot of the early third wave stuff (with the punk influence) as well as the pop-ska, and a lot of the trad and british 2-tone. What really gets me is the arrangement of all the parts with the horns, bass, keys, guitar, and drum riffs.

Ill agree man. Ska is good music, takes talent and skill. Ska would make my top 3 for sure as all time favorite music style.
Adjacent to Belarus
02-11-2005, 03:05
metal has no skill, its a bunch of guys bashing drums and screaming, like slipknot

It was bad enough that you didn't include metal as a poll option, and then you say this. Wow, you have absolutely no idea what metal is. (Slipknot is a disgrace to metal IMO) Next time, don't make sweeping generalizations about a whole genre of music.
Heron-Marked Warriors
02-11-2005, 03:05
but i dont see the point of listening to guys scream into mikes, and not being able to understand what the song is actually about. Music has to be enjoyed, and metal doesnt fall into that category.

What the hell are you prattling on about? Yes, there are some metal bands, like slipknot, that are incomprehensible a lot of the time. But it's not all like that. Seriously, are you telling me you can't undertand what any metal is about? I think you're just a troll.
Nadkor
02-11-2005, 03:06
but i dont see the point of listening to guys scream into mikes, and not being able to understand what the song is actually about. Music has to be enjoyed, and metal doesnt fall into that category.
For me, it's very much about the mood I'm in. Sometimes I'm in the mood where I just want to jump about and scream and shout.

But even then I can tell what they're saying.
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 03:07
but i dont see the point of listening to guys scream into mikes, and not being able to understand what the song is actually about. Music has to be enjoyed, and metal doesnt fall into that category.
Oh poor misguided soul, you're one of the too many who has never heard real metal... :(
DistortedCloud
02-11-2005, 03:07
What the hell are you prattling on about? Yes, there are some metal bands, like slipknot, that are incomprehensible a lot of the time. But it's not all like that. Seriously, are you telling me you can't undertand what any metal is about? I think you're just a troll.

I was listening to metal on the radio, and didn't enjoy it at all. Not my style of music.
Branin
02-11-2005, 03:07
What the hell are you prattling on about? Yes, there are some metal bands, like slipknot, that are incomprehensible a lot of the time. But it's not all like that. Seriously, are you telling me you can't undertand what any metal is about? I think you're just a troll.
Give him some classic metal, that he'll sing along to. Then tell him it's metal. Sabath, Purple, Zeplin, Scorpions, ACDC. He'll sing along, then cry.
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 03:08
I was listening to metal on the radio, and didn't enjoy it at all. Not my style of music.
They don't have metal on the radio. Trust me. It wasn't metal.
Branin
02-11-2005, 03:08
And metal is such a broad term. There is thrash metal, speed metal, prog metal, classic metal, and so many more. Metal is such a broad word.
Branin
02-11-2005, 03:09
They don't have metal on the radio. Trust me. It wasn't metal.
College stations run by the students are a glorious thing, sometimes. Other times its a real pain.
DistortedCloud
02-11-2005, 03:10
They don't have metal on the radio. Trust me. It wasn't metal.

satellite radio
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 03:11
College stations run by the students are a glorious thing, sometimes. Other times its a real pain.
I have a metal radio show up here in Dartmouth...

Ten Inches of Metal Love...

They canceled it for hockey season.

:(

But come on... college radio isn't real radio after all.
DistortedCloud
02-11-2005, 03:12
Give him some classic metal, that he'll sing along to. Then tell him it's metal. Sabath, Purple, Zeplin, Scorpions, ACDC. He'll sing along, then cry.

ACDC sucks, apprently acdc is another term or something like that for bisexual, which they are. classical metal and all metal has no place in my books.
Heron-Marked Warriors
02-11-2005, 03:12
For me, it's very much about the mood I'm in. Sometimes I'm in the mood where I just want to jump about and scream and shout.

But even then I can tell what they're saying.

I think it's a case of tuning your ears in to it. When I first started listening to metal, I was in the same position as that guy, not being able to pick out the words a lot of the time.

Give him some classic metal, that he'll sing along to. Then tell him it's metal. Sabath, Purple, Zeplin, Scorpions, ACDC. He'll sing along, then cry.

True point.

Yay metal! Up the Irons!
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 03:12
satellite radio
Oh my bad. In that case you listened to metalcore

I've listened to Sirius one time. They don't have real metal on there.

There really is no metal on radio.
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 03:13
ACDC sucks, apprently acdc is another term or something like that for bisexual, which they are. classical metal and all metal has no place in my books.
ACDC is classic rock and I personally don't like them at all.
Zanato
02-11-2005, 03:14
Metal is my favorite, and I enjoy music from many of the different subgenres. Thrash, doom, black, prog, viking, folk, etc.
Branin
02-11-2005, 03:14
I have a metal radio show up here in Dartmouth...

Ten Inches of Metal Love...

They canceled it for hockey season.

:(

But come on... college radio isn't real radio after all.
We have a real, FM station that covers a pretty good sized area. Its lots of fun. I was once, long ago (while still in HS) offered a show for the summer (they really hurt for DJs during the summer, and was a tech at the comercial stations in town so I knew the equipment) but was to busy to take it. If I ever do a show where I have total power it will be something different each week. Something to expand peoples horizons, but I'd make it apeal to as wide of an audience as possibe, finding classical themes in metal etc...
DistortedCloud
02-11-2005, 03:15
Oh my bad. In that case you listened to metalcore

I've listened to Sirius one time. They don't have real metal on there.

There really is no metal on radio.

channel 27 I think, called Hard Attack, they played metal that was horrible.:headbang:
Nadkor
02-11-2005, 03:16
channel 27 I think, called Hard Attack, they played metal that was horrible.:headbang:
They probably played stuff like Dillenger Escape Plan...not metal.
Branin
02-11-2005, 03:16
And metal is such a broad term. There is thrash metal, speed metal, prog metal, classic metal, and so many more. Metal is such a broad word.
Restates.
Heron-Marked Warriors
02-11-2005, 03:16
ACDC sucks, apprently acdc is another term or something like that for bisexual, which they are.

True or not (I don't know, I don't care), that has what if anything to do with their musical skill? God damn homphobes?

classical metal and all metal has no place in my books.

So I was right before. You're a troll.
Freeunitedstates
02-11-2005, 03:18
Blues and Jazz, no questions about it.
Jazz lounges are the best. There's nothing like sitting in a dark, candlit room listening to a sultry woman sing. Especially songs like "Fly me to the Moon," "Adieu," and "Butterfly." There's more, of course, but those are the ones I listen to the most.
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 03:18
We have a real, FM station that covers a pretty good sized area. Its lots of fun. I was once, long ago (while still in HS) offered a show for the summer (they really hurt for DJs during the summer, and was a tech at the comercial stations in town so I knew the equipment) but was to busy to take it. If I ever do a show where I have total power it will be something different each week. Something to expand peoples horizons, but I'd make it apeal to as wide of an audience as possibe, finding classical themes in metal etc...
With FM stations you lose total control. They'll make you play so and so and this and this. WE have an FM station too. IT'll still be close to impossible to get real metal on there regularly.
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 03:20
channel 27 I think, called Hard Attack, they played metal that was horrible.:headbang:
It was metalcore--the bastard child of metal and hardcore. Many metallers alienate it as an offshoot of hardcore, some embrace it as a different type of metal.

There is no pure metal on the radio.
Kiwi-kiwi
02-11-2005, 03:20
I am what you might call an eclectic. I like music period and listen to a whole range of genres from metal to classical, punk to country.


Same. I just like music in general and I go pretty much on a song-to-song basis more than anything. And as I have been proving to myself lately, most types of music, even if I don't like them at first, tend to grow on me after awhile.
DistortedCloud
02-11-2005, 03:21
HARD ATTACK
27 | HARD ATTACK
HEAVY METAL

The heaviest metal on or off the planet, from the ones that created it, all the way to the ones that are perfecting it today.

Listen

ARTISTS INCLUDE:
Pantera
Slayer
Slipknot
Sepultura
Black Sabbath
Corrosion Of Conformity
Mudvayne
Cradle Of Filth and many more.

thats what they played, thats what sucked.
Branin
02-11-2005, 03:22
With FM stations you lose total control. They'll make you play so and so and this and this. WE have an FM station too. IT'll still be close to impossible to get real metal on there regularly.
The students control it. We get everything, real metal, shit metal, pop, classic rock, garbage, and lots of totally pointless patter. (So I got pulled over today and Sue is so hot.....)
Verekia
02-11-2005, 03:22
I'm going with metal again on this one. All sorts of metal, power, prog, death, black, viking, neo-classical, classic, true, speed, thrash, doom, and all the permutations therein. I also have to agree that there are plenty of metal bands with vocalists who don't just scream into their mikes. There are plenty of bands who have very practiced musical chops, and there are some who aren't quite so technically competent.

There is no metal on the radio. Ever. It just doesn't happen. No no no. The closest they come to metal on the radio are the various -cores and those basically suck. Try listening to some real metal bands. Like Opeth.
Heron-Marked Warriors
02-11-2005, 03:23
HARD ATTACK
27 | HARD ATTACK
HEAVY METAL

The heaviest metal on or off the planet, from the ones that created it, all the way to the ones that are perfecting it today.

Listen

ARTISTS INCLUDE:
Pantera
Slayer
Slipknot
Sepultura
Black Sabbath
Corrosion Of Conformity
Mudvayne
Cradle Of Filth and many more.

thats what they played, thats what sucked.


And that is actually what you listened to? Or are you just trolling still?
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 03:25
HARD ATTACK
27 | HARD ATTACK
HEAVY METAL

The heaviest metal on or off the planet, from the ones that created it, all the way to the ones that are perfecting it today.

Listen

ARTISTS INCLUDE:
Pantera
Slayer
Slipknot
Sepultura
Black Sabbath
Corrosion Of Conformity
Mudvayne
Cradle Of Filth and many more.

thats what they played, thats what sucked.
Of those the only bands I truly respect: Slayer and Black Sabbath and chances are they didn't come on when you were listening to it.

Though Pantera and Sepultura are technically metal. I, too, don't like them.

And chances are despite all that above, mostly metalcore came on. It's always like that. I tried listening to it, in hopes of hearing some Sabbath and Slayer... nope nothing...

Conclusion: of metal you sampled metalcore, and IMHO bottom of the barrel metal.
Totav
02-11-2005, 03:25
but i dont see the point of listening to guys scream into mikes, and not being able to understand what the song is actually about. Music has to be enjoyed, and metal doesnt fall into that category.


Not all metal involved growling until you blow off your vocal chords.


Originally Posted by Branin
Give him some classic metal, that he'll sing along to. Then tell him it's metal. Sabath, Purple, Zeplin, Scorpions, ACDC. He'll sing along, then cry.

Exactly which of those bands are metal? :rolleyes:



I stick more to alternative rock, grunge or progressive metal, but can enjoy nearly everything that has any taste (from jazz to death metal). And even 2 of 2pac songs (the rest of hip hop and teen pop should be tortured because I say so, thank you very much).
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 03:26
The students control it. We get everything, real metal, shit metal, pop, classic rock, garbage, and lots of totally pointless patter. (So I got pulled over today and Sue is so hot.....)
Yes here too. Still you have to play a certain ammount of so and so to get money from fuckin' advertisers. Thats why I stuck with the AM.
The Candrian Empire
02-11-2005, 03:27
Metal ain't my thing, but I can appreciate it. I'll stick with my grindcore and tidbits of other genres, but what always irks me is people bashing other genres because it's different from the one they've been listening to.
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 03:29
Exactly which of those bands are metal? :rolleyes:


Only Sabbath, Maiden, Scorpions and argueably Deep Purple.
Heron-Marked Warriors
02-11-2005, 03:29
Exactly which of those bands are metal? :rolleyes:

Black Sabbath and Deep Purple were, Zeppelin weren't really. AC/DC and Scorpion had their moments. True, none of it was the same as modern metal, which is largely black and death metal, but that doesn't mean it isn't metal.
Adjacent to Belarus
02-11-2005, 03:30
HARD ATTACK
27 | HARD ATTACK
HEAVY METAL

The heaviest metal on or off the planet, from the ones that created it, all the way to the ones that are perfecting it today.

Listen

ARTISTS INCLUDE:
Pantera
Slayer
Slipknot
Sepultura
Black Sabbath
Corrosion Of Conformity
Mudvayne
Cradle Of Filth and many more.

thats what they played, thats what sucked.

Well, I can't say I have much interest in any of those bands (not to mention those bands aren't exactly "the heaviest metal on or off the planet" anyway). I much prefer metal with more of a tune, wider range of emotion, a singer who sings more often than screams, etc - bands like Dream Theater, Queensryche, Symphony X, Kamelot, Blind Guardian...
Totav
02-11-2005, 03:33
80's mainstream metal was basically restricted to hair metal or heavy metal, which in my opinion would suit better under rock category rather than metal one. I guess that's up for each one to choose, but I'd still put those bands under rock.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
02-11-2005, 03:41
Normally, I prefer Celtic, Gregorian Chant, Smooth Jazz or other nice stuff that can fade into the background while I work. When I feel like actively listening you can't beat a Symphony by either Beethoven or Mozart.
Classical pwns, and "complexity" != automatic good, Metalheads.
Totav
02-11-2005, 03:41
I much prefer metal with more of a tune, wider range of emotion, a singer who sings more often than screams, etc - bands like Dream Theater, Queensryche, Symphony X, Kamelot, Blind Guardian...


Dream Theater <3

For good Sepultura, try Chaos A.D. album. Ironically, they only became famous in the next album (Roots, for those who never heard of them).
Branin
02-11-2005, 03:44
Dream Theatere *drools* Now there is some top quality music.
Amerigo
02-11-2005, 03:53
I don't like Dream Theater albums. They just don't work for me. That said I like some crazy complicated prog metal, like Spiral Architect and Pain of Salvation and Shade of Gray era Fates Warning, but Dream Theater albums, just come off sounding boring.

But before people stone me for that. I saw them live and I will definately say, they are an awesome live band. And I loved them live. Great, great band live. Bland on albums. I'm sorry. And trust me I've listened to a lot of them--my friend is a big DT fan and I borrowed 4 or 5, put them on repeat for a while at random times. And I just didn't like em.
Daistallia 2104
02-11-2005, 04:34
The title and poll question are really meaningless, as there is no objective way to determine what is the "best" genre of music overall.

As to the real question of favorite genre, put me down as another eclectic. My favorite genre of music is good music. ;)

I'm liable to make huge leaps of genre in a short period of time - from Tejano to classic Punk to Okinawan Minyo to classic Hard Rock to Outlaw Country to Cool Jazz to Canto Pop to Zydeco and so on. Most of you probably don't want me DJing your party! :D

And just a note: AC/DC is a great Hard Rock band that sometimes slips over into metal, but the name supposedly originally refered to alternating current/direct current, and was suggested by Angus and Malcom Young's sister, who got it off a sewing machine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC/DC#Name
Allthenamesarereserved
04-11-2005, 23:26
They probably played stuff like Dillenger Escape Plan...not metal.

It was metalcore--the bastard child of metal and hardcore. Many metallers alienate it as an offshoot of hardcore, some embrace it as a different type of metal.

There is no pure metal on the radio.

So, just out of curiosity, if I were looking to experience the best of metal to see if I like it, give me one or two songs that symbolise your opinion of metal. Then I can see if I like 'real metal'.
The blessed Chris
04-11-2005, 23:35
Thre is no sodding emo choice:(

I am soo cutting myself over this
Madnestan
04-11-2005, 23:37
System Of A Down, Ska-P.

That's all you need.
Pelisky
04-11-2005, 23:55
80's thrash.... now that was good :headbang:

and as for the 90's, well Sepultura and Pantera... espesh Pantera, they kinda sounded like Metalica 'would' have sounded, had Metallica carried along the lines of Master of Puppets, and not ended up doing albums like 'Load' (yuk!)

But these days, think i'd prefere a bit o'goth :eek:
Bvimb VI
05-11-2005, 00:12
ACDC sucks, apprently acdc is another term or something like that for bisexual, which they are. classical metal and all metal has no place in my books.

AC/DC either stands for alternating current / direct current OR if you listen to certain fundamentalists Anti-Christ / Devils Child ( rofl? ). And AC/DC is rock.
Amerigo
05-11-2005, 00:15
So, just out of curiosity, if I were looking to experience the best of metal to see if I like it, give me one or two songs that symbolise your opinion of metal. Then I can see if I like 'real metal'.
That is certainly impossible. Metal is a very varied pallette that appeals to people of different tastes. You would need to sample quite a lot of metal to see the "best" of metal--since my best may not necessarily correspond with your best. No two songs can really represent all of metal. I thought everyone would love Iron Maiden's "Hallowed Be Thy Name", until I met someone who thought that it was too theatrical, but loved Goatsnake and Electric Wizard.

But I will do my best to help you find your "best" of metal. Just tell me what sort of music you like and from there I will be better able to tell you what sort of metal you will like.
Aplastaland
05-11-2005, 00:22
From AC/DC to Metallica, from Thin Lizzy to Alice Cooper.
Antrium
05-11-2005, 00:33
I like most types of music (except maybe country, but it has its good songs too), but I usually listen to indie rock.
Mikitivity
05-11-2005, 00:47
Industrial.
The Helghan Empire
05-11-2005, 00:48
I chose Other because I can't decide. I like Alternative, Punk-Rock, a little bit of Emo (if My Chemical Romance falls into that category), Industrial (just Marilyn Manson only), and Heavy Metal. I don't know about Goth-Rock, because I have never been able to here the bands in that category. Rap is my least favorite.
Spartiala
05-11-2005, 01:06
Rock: Some rock is good, some isn't. It's a pretty broad catagory.

Punk: I enjoy a bit of punk now and then, but most of it seems very simplistic and mildly annoying if its overplayed.

Country: I don't much like country. I really don't like the sound of the guitars in most country songs and the singing usually sounds pretty bad too.

Rap: Ugh. I really don't like rap. Crabbuckit (by K-os) is a pretty good song (mostly because it sounds so much like jazz) but other than that I can't think of a single rap song I like.

Hip-hop: I don't think I'd be able to tell the difference between Rap and Hip-hop, so I will not comment.

R&B: Meh.

Classical: I enjoy a good classical piece now and then. Only the instrumental stuff though; I don't like the sound of classical singing.

Ska: Meh

Techno: I hate Techno. Music should be played primarily on accoustic instruments; electric guitar and bass are okay in moderation, but techno sounds way too fake.

Jazz: Why isn't jazz in the poll? And what about blues? Oh well, I guess there are only 10 slots, so it can't be perfect. Still, Jazz is the greatest form of music ever, and blues can be pretty awesome too.
Spartiala
05-11-2005, 01:10
I just noticed that rap, hip-hip, R&B and Techno have received no votes. I'm going to vote for R&B because I feel sorry for it and it doesn't deserve to be as unpopular as rap and techno.
Zooke
05-11-2005, 01:15
I can't believe you have rap and hip hop (aren't they interchangeable?) plus techno (and didn't list disco...huh...imagine that) and didn't offer either blues or jazz as a choice. If you want to get to the roots of most of today's music, that's where you have to go. Luv Muddy!!

Edit: I voted for R&B (though technically I should have gone with other), but old style R&B has some class. Today's R&B...blah.
Pure Metal
05-11-2005, 01:21
Thre is no sodding emo choice:(

I am soo cutting myself over this
:p


drum n bass be rocking my speakers as of late :)
(but it is, of course, not the 'best' music... i just love the energy)
Industrial Experiment
05-11-2005, 01:49
I'm the type that just loves music in general. You'd be very hard pressed to find music I disliked.

That being said, I sure do hate most metal fans. Not metal itself, I love most all metal outside doom and drone, but the fans. 99% of the metal fans I've met are either waaay overdoing it or they're elitists.
Maineiacs
05-11-2005, 02:10
Classic Rock
Ataroa
05-11-2005, 02:15
Lots:
Rock
World
Pop( limited almost entirely to THE BEATLES)
Classical
Jazz
thinking of more...

Generally, I'm open to almost everything except:
country:sniper:
Amerigo
05-11-2005, 02:25
99% of the metal fans I've met are either waaay overdoing it or they're elitists.
Yeah... but at least they're not as bad as indie rock fans.
The Ohio State Axis
05-11-2005, 02:34
Classic rock and Sublime (they don't really have a classification).
Ravea
05-11-2005, 02:47
Jazz. Everything from Herbie Hancock to Monk to Coltrane to Miles, I can't get enought of the stuff. It's the deepest kind of music there is.

Funk, Rythm and Blues, Classic Rap, and a little bit of rock and techno is up there too.

My new obsessions at the moment are Regina Spektor, who doesn't really have any particular style but makes amazing music, and Chromeo, a half-jewish, half-palistinian Techno-Funk extravaganza.
Industrial Experiment
05-11-2005, 04:10
Yeah... but at least they're not as bad as indie rock fans.

Oh. My. God.

I could go ON AND ON AND ON...
SmokersDeelite
05-11-2005, 04:16
metal has no skill, its a bunch of guys bashing drums and screaming, like slipknot


ahem. Listen!!! To System of a Down. They make metal. Good.
Esotericain
05-11-2005, 04:16
Psychedelic rock
SmokersDeelite
05-11-2005, 04:17
Classic rock and Sublime (they don't really have a classification).


YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEaHHHH!!!!!!
Anebrd
05-11-2005, 04:33
I voted for rock because that's what I listen to when I drive.

I like Old Country. Country with twang. Does anyone else think that today's country is trying way to hard to sound like "shudder" pop? Some of the new artists are all right but there are too many copy cats.

I personally am getting sick of pop. I am probably showing my age but is it the same freakin' blond chick? The name changes but the sound remains exactly the same.

Where does Cake fit into this?
Verozan
05-11-2005, 04:46
Metal

Good stuff:
Children of Bodom
Trivium
Machine Head
Mushroomhead
Slayer
Old school Metallica
Avenged Sevenfold
God Forbid

ECT.
Letila
05-11-2005, 05:39
I find that most music, particularly pop and rap, but certainly to a large extent others, seems rather commercialized and based on making as much money as possible. I prefer classical music because at least sometimes, the composers were motivated by something other than money, like personal values.

I can't stand country, rap, or pop. I haven't heard much more than snippets of Jazz, Blues, ska, or techno, so I'm not sure what I think of them. Metal suffers too much from the whole commercialization thing as well, but if it didn't, it might actually have a lot of potential.
Closed Caskets
05-11-2005, 07:10
Hmmm... What do I like? I like blues, reggae, roots, rock, hardcore, alternative, metal (most types excluding nu and rap and including metalcore, although the labels become incredibly pretentious at times), some hip-hop and some punk. I'm fairly eclectic when it comes to musical taste.
Kudlastan
05-11-2005, 12:35
the current wave of indie rock mainly (bloc party, the futureheads, franz ferdinand, editors, kaiser chiefs, maximo park, the killers, kings of leon, interpol, the arcade fire etc...), plus 80s bands like the smiths, new order, stone roses etc, and 90s britpop.

Also various bits n' pieces of old skool punk, house, trance, garage, drum n'bass, hip hop...

Just not metal/emo/whiny american pop punk really

or 'r n'b' and gangsta rap
Pure Metal
05-11-2005, 12:37
Metal

Good stuff:

Trivium
Machine Head

Slayer
Old school Metallica
Avenged Sevenfold
God Forbid

ECT.
nice list there
Laerod
05-11-2005, 12:41
Someone must have mentioned this earlier: This should have been a multiple choice poll.

My favorite music has lots of texture, a nice basic melody, a fast steady beat, and usually vocals.
That means I usually like Techno, Rock, and a bit of Metal (mainly gothic and symphonic), and that I rather dislike Rap, R&B, and Folk Music (includes Country for the US and Schlager for Germany).
Random Kingdom
06-11-2005, 00:10
Synth-pop, especially late 70s/early 80s electropop.

I hate metal.
Allthenamesarereserved
07-11-2005, 18:47
That is certainly impossible. Metal is a very varied pallette that appeals to people of different tastes. You would need to sample quite a lot of metal to see the "best" of metal--since my best may not necessarily correspond with your best. No two songs can really represent all of metal. I thought everyone would love Iron Maiden's "Hallowed Be Thy Name", until I met someone who thought that it was too theatrical, but loved Goatsnake and Electric Wizard.

But I will do my best to help you find your "best" of metal. Just tell me what sort of music you like and from there I will be better able to tell you what sort of metal you will like.

Well, I love Metallica. I also like bands like Radiohead, Audioslave, Smile Empty Soul, The Tea Party, Nine Inch Nails, Snow Patrol, and old stuff (Neil Young, Zeppelin, etc.) hmmm..... I like alternative quite a bit. As you can see, not really a fan of heavy music with no purpose. I like a lot of different music though, as long as the music doesn't just have lyrics that were chosen only because they rhyme (eg no rap or country or hip-hop). As long as the song was written to mean something, chances are I'll like it.
Kanabia
07-11-2005, 18:54
Stoner/doom metal, old school punk, blues and grunge. That's what I like, mostly, but I listen to a bit of stuff outside that. I picked "rock" out of the list.

subjectively, the "best" would have to be classical, though that is probably a little too broad a descriptive term. But screw getting overly technical. :p
Saxnot
07-11-2005, 19:38
Hard Rock, 1965-71, to be amazingly specific.
Fair Progress
07-11-2005, 20:35
Progressive rock/metal does it for me: Dream Theater (and side projects), Niacin, Yes, Karmakanic, Mike Keneally, Steve Vai, and so it goes...
Glitziness
07-11-2005, 20:42
Progressive rock/metal does it for me: Dream Theater (and side projects), Niacin, Yes, Karmakanic, Mike Keneally, Steve Vai, and so it goes...
Yay!

Though technically I don't believe there is a "best" music. It depends what you mean by best (i.e. it's too subjective) and every genre has some crappy music in it.
The Zanbato
07-11-2005, 21:27
Indie rock! Indie Rock!:D
Letila
07-11-2005, 21:42
Though technically I don't believe there is a "best" music. It depends what you mean by best (i.e. it's too subjective) and every genre has some crappy music in it.

Nonsense! Classical has no crappy music. Oh wait, there's Wagner, nevermind. Well, we can pretend he never existed, like that ship in the Philadelphia experiment or the town of Bielefeld or the aliens in Roswell.
Intangelon
07-11-2005, 21:48
There can be no best genre. The best music is whatever makes you happy. Whatever grooves you the hardest or brings you out of your shell the most.

Every genre is replete with one person's meat and another person's poison. These polls are pointless...unless the OP is a record company executive or something. If that's the case, please stop allowing any slutty, white-trash jailbait to record a CD. We really are sick of it.

No, really.
Swimmingpool
07-11-2005, 21:51
metal has no skill, its a bunch of guys bashing drums and screaming, like slipknot
Actually many bands in metal are more skilled than any others in popular music, except for jazz. The average metal band (real metal, not noise like Slipknot) blows the average rock band out of the water in terms of technical skill.
Swimmingpool
07-11-2005, 22:13
but i dont see the point of listening to guys scream into mikes, and not being able to understand what the song is actually about. Music has to be enjoyed, and metal doesnt fall into that category.
I understand and enjoy metal greatly. Who says music is about lyrics? It's about rhythm. And it's rich for a punk fan to lecture us metalheads about technical skill.
Swimmingpool
07-11-2005, 22:26
I was listening to metal on the radio, and didn't enjoy it at all. Not my style of music.
If it was on the radio then it probably was not real metal.

HARD ATTACK
27 | HARD ATTACK
HEAVY METAL

The heaviest metal on or off the planet, from the ones that created it, all the way to the ones that are perfecting it today.

Listen

ARTISTS INCLUDE:
Pantera
Slayer
Slipknot
Sepultura
Black Sabbath
Corrosion Of Conformity
Mudvayne
Cradle Of Filth and many more.

thats what they played, thats what sucked.
So you've completely missed out power metal, folk metal, death metal, black metal, classic metal and progressive metal, but you're still going to dismiss them?
Swimmingpool
07-11-2005, 22:28
Metal suffers too much from the whole commercialization thing as well, but if it didn't, it might actually have a lot of potential.
What are you saying? Metal has very few fans relative to other genres; I would say that 98% of metal bands are in it for the music, not the money.
I V Stalin
07-11-2005, 22:44
Post-rock, math-rock, hard rock, punk, ska, industrial, EBM, metal (black, thrash, speed). Whatever I'm in the mood for really - and I have music to fit every mood.
Norgopia
07-11-2005, 22:52
I have a question though... why did all the black rockers die in the 60's? All thats left of black people are the huge-pants-and-do-rag-and-ugly-brown-gold-colored-clothes-wearing-people.
Amarnaiy
07-11-2005, 22:55
Well, currently in my CD Player is.... But I'm listening to a mix of my sisters, which has a shitload of trance on it, and some stuff like ACDC and Aerosmith... But I like The Corrs, and Solas. As well as that, I listen to alot of country. And whoever said that country doesn't mean anything can kiss my ass. Because you haven't even listen to it. How Do You Get That Lonely, by Blaine Larsen. Written for a friend of his, I believe. Watch the vid, listen to it, and look up the lyrics.

But I'm into stuff like Josh Groban, and some oldies. AKA, The Zombies, The Beatles, The Kinks, Horslips.
[NS]Olara
07-11-2005, 22:55
I was miffed that the option "swing," or at least "jazz," was not in your poll. Minus five points. Instead I voted "classical," although "baroque" is a more accurate description (Bach is by far my favorite).
The White Hats
07-11-2005, 23:30
Post-rock, math-rock, hard rock, punk, ska, industrial, EBM, metal (black, thrash, speed). Whatever I'm in the mood for really - and I have music to fit every mood.
OK, I've got to ask: what's math-rock?
Potaria
07-11-2005, 23:33
Ugh. There is no "best music". Get over it!
Amecian
08-11-2005, 02:27
Ugh. There is no "best music". Get over it!

:rolleyes: 'xactly. This has more turned into a "what type do you like " thread though. So - to keep with the subject :

Techno/trance/electronica is my favorite - its my "general " favorite

Jazz is relaxing and I do papers to it.

Punk Rock is good for playing bloody games ..

I like everything but country.:)
Kanabia
08-11-2005, 06:40
Actually many bands in metal are more skilled than any others in popular music, except for jazz. The average metal band (real metal, not noise like Slipknot) blows the average rock band out of the water in terms of technical skill.

Yep.
Kanabia
08-11-2005, 06:42
OK, I've got to ask: what's math-rock?

It's music with weird time signatures and dissonant chord patterns.
Incoherencia
08-11-2005, 13:47
ACDC sucks, apprently acdc is another term or something like that for bisexual, which they are. classical metal and all metal has no place in my books.
AC/DC either stands for alternating current / direct current OR if you listen to certain fundamentalists Anti-Christ / Devils Child ( rofl? ). And AC/DC is rock.
You're both right.

My favourite types of music are goth rock, industrial, post-punk and classical. I've been also known to enjoy some swing/big band music occationally.
Kudlastan
08-11-2005, 14:30
I have a question though... why did all the black rockers die in the 60's? All thats left of black people are the huge-pants-and-do-rag-and-ugly-brown-gold-colored-clothes-wearing-people.

check out Bloc Party... quite big in the UK 'indie' scene at the moment... their frontman Kele Okereke is black, and he was a great performer when i saw 'em live.
Intangelon
08-11-2005, 14:37
I have a question though... why did all the black rockers die in the 60's? All thats left of black people are the huge-pants-and-do-rag-and-ugly-brown-gold-colored-clothes-wearing-people.

Well, there was Living Colour, and I swear Vernon Reid (lead guitar) would channel Hendrix on occasion. It's rare, for some reason, to see a whole band of brothas -- all kinds of Black session musicians have been liberally peppered individually through great rock groups. Drummers, bassists, and other players have given the funk edge to many a rock band. Bands like Power Station, Spin Doctors, and at this hour I'm drawing a blank after that (and I just don't want to admit to knowing anything at all about Hootie).
Accrued Constituencies
08-11-2005, 14:42
Japanese noise music, free-improv power electronic (Masonna, not Merzbow). D-beat. Power violence (2nd generation mostly). Thrashcore. Whatever 'Wesley Willis'' solo material is. Darkwave. Militaristic neo-folk. "Norsecore." Baroque. early Modal music with lute, harpsichord.
Cromotar
08-11-2005, 14:57
Symphonic metal (Nightwish, Rhapsody, Therion, etc).
Mythotic Kelkia
08-11-2005, 15:19
hmm, let's see...


Metal Sub-(sub-)genres
Power Metal. Black Metal. Post-Black Metal. Ambient Black Metal. Folk Metal. Gothic Metal. Forest Metal. Troll Metal. Vedic Metal. Oriental Metal. Symphonic Metal. Orchestral Metal.

"Electronica" genres
Industrial. Dark Ambience. Trip-Hop. Hard House.

Classical and folk traditions
Khonyâ-ye Bâstâni Irâni. Hindustani. Russian. Armenian. Lithuanian.
The White Hats
09-11-2005, 00:12
It's music with weird time signatures and dissonant chord patterns.
Ah. Thanks.

*Heads off to invent calculus-rock, integrating contemporary music, modern jazz and prog rock from 1945 to date. Runs into a cow named Henry.*
Drunk commies deleted
09-11-2005, 00:14
Best music? It depends on my mood. Industrial, Metal, Bluegrass, Folk, Country, Rock, and Reggae all rate highly.
Punk, and new wave also kick ass.
Amerigo
09-11-2005, 00:27
Forest Metal. Troll Metal. Vedic Metal. Oriental Metal.

I don't think those are really considered actual subgenres by many people. I mean come on, forest metal is still folk metal, and how many bands besides Finntroll can you think of that you could call Troll Metal? And what about Oriental Metal--that's just pretty much Orphaned Land... And I have never heard of "Vedic Metal"...
Isurus Oxyrinchus
09-11-2005, 03:32
metal has no skill, its a bunch of guys bashing drums and screaming, like slipknot

That is not metal, that is crap.

Iron Maiden or Dream Theater is Metal. And Metal requires skil, some forms requiring a huge amount of talent and pratice.
Dr_Funkenstien
09-11-2005, 03:50
All of the above for me. I play bass and find that every genre of music has at least one thing significant to say and taking in a lot of influences rounds out your playing. I'm partial to Fusion (Return to Forever, Brand X), Jazz (mingus, Miles Davis), and Prog (King Crimson, Yes, etc). :)
Letila
09-11-2005, 04:40
I would say that there isn't really such a thing as an inherently good or bad genre of music. Some appeal to me more than others, but there is a wide variety of quality within them.

On average, I would say classical music is probably the best as far as technique goes. Classical composers tend to compose the best in terms of what sounds best together and how to make songs function coherently, using the musical tools available, and so forth. By contrast, this is not always the case for writers in other genres.

On the other hand, that really doesn't prove a whole lot by itself. While few (if any) classical composers make music that sounds as bad as Britney Spears, I find that many classical pieces, particularly those from the Baroque and Classical periods, to be quite boring because they rely too much on technique and not enough on emotion and sound rather bland as a result.
Callisdrun
09-11-2005, 04:50
Metal. Mostly black metal, thrash metal and doom/goth metal, some prog, some classic stuff like Iron Maiden.

Classical, especially of the Romantic period and the first half of the 20th century.

I also like really old jazz.

Your poll sucks, by the way, because it doesn't have jazz, metal, or blues on it. Even if you don't like metal, you cannot deny how important and influential jazz is as a genre.
Baran-Duine
09-11-2005, 04:52
Rock, Metal, Scots Gaelic
Bleuets
09-11-2005, 05:30
Most genres have a redeeming quality or two. But there are definately exceptions to this rule. I do have some suggestions for various groups though.

Emo Kids: Learn what actual music is. Failing that, cut yourselves; subcultures suck.
Anyone who thinks Nu Metal is good: Find some actual metal. Failing that, smash yourself over the head with a jagged piece of metal.
"Gangsta Kids": Pull your pants up, and listen to something requiring talent. Failing that, just pull the pants up.
People who listen to Rock: Learn what a genre is.
Americai
09-11-2005, 06:12
Instrumental/Soundtrack

Also Gregorian music is pretty goddamned powerful and beautiful.

You really can not find a more impressive genre.
Pencil 17
09-11-2005, 06:19
All of the above for me. I play bass and find that every genre of music has at least one thing significant to say and taking in a lot of influences rounds out your playing. I'm partial to Fusion (Return to Forever, Brand X), Jazz (mingus, Miles Davis), and Prog (King Crimson, Yes, etc). :)
Haha That's because the bass can play in all of those types of music.

I'm a bass player too
Mariehamn
09-11-2005, 07:48
Oh, what I love about this thread is the senseless listing of sub-generes...I don't even know what your talking about, thus making "metal" even less accessable to the "uninitiated," even though I think I already am, but I've decided I'm not. Metal, in my opinion, is not Metallica, ACDC, Iron Madien, etc. because even though they were hard at their high points, now they just kinda don't sound angry or suicidal enough, when compared to the sensless rantings of Slipknot, Mushroomhead, and Mudvayne. I prefer to label them as Old School Rock. That's what me and my folk call 'em, uh-huh. And they're good, probably the best rock there's ever been.

But ever sense the virtual downfall of Pop, at least in the States in the late '90's, in Western Europe its still going pretty strong, in a general sense. Anyhow, Rock, Heavy Metal, etc. has become the mainstream. Essentially, the new "cool" thing, for most people. And although its still not as popular as Rap and R&B, no one can deny that most Rock and Metal these days is designed to sell. Which is good in some cases, as the bands music gets better sometimes, but other times, just the first album has passion, and then the rest absolutely blow. And its my opinion that Metalheads try to keep their music unaccessable so they can remain the Undergroun Scene, trying to keep the grage-band feel, even after the massive success of Punk, which I'll name a few bands: Good Charlette; Green Day; Limb Bizkit; etc. You should know these bands, they're constantly played on the radio. That is, if you listen to radio, I don't much these days, but when I did they were on all the time, and everyone I know still loves them, so, that's where I get this conclusion from.

But that's just my opinion. Anyhow, I'm eclectic as far as music goes, and I love a little of everything. I'm still a Metalhead, and although it was my first genre I liked, I moved to Industrial, which was the pwn for awhile. Then Techno, and even though most people think its too, well manufactered and not accustical, so's your food. So meh. I've always loved Folk Rock, like Simon and Garfunkle. Medieval Rock, like In Extremo and Corvus Corax are now my fav. Some people consider Medieval Rock another sub-genere of Metal, I like to think its not, as most Metal bands don't have crazy femal vocals, choruses, harps, or dress up like Medieval peasants for concerts. I have a feeling my Medieval Rock phase isn't going to go away. And then there's my little splurges into Classical, Ragge, Country, New Age, and stuff that's Gregorian...oh, awesome.

But, its my opinion that Techno is a severly under-rated genere. So, I'll attempt to get some people interested, and list some of my favorite DJ's and MCs, and I think they can have groups in this genre too, but I'm not sure. And just so everyone knows, I just like music that has a good beat, and makes me move my feet, and I don't pretend to know what's really going on in this genre. Maybe I should say, instead of Techno, I'm more of a Clubby guy. I dunno, here I go: O-Zone (Romanian, gotta love it), Darude (Anyone remember "Sandstorm? And great driving music on the second album), Juno Reactor (good trancy stuff, and they did some stuff with The Matrix, if you like bass, try this), Scooter (some random German guy singing about nonsense and even more bass than you need most of the time, this is also what I like to drive around with, LOUDLY), and MIDIval PunditZ (Indian trancy/clubby stuff, its an acquired taste, but quite enjoyable).

End Rant

PS: For metalheads, try Nightwish :D
Potaria
09-11-2005, 08:11
the massive success of Punk, which I'll name a few bands: Good Charlette; Green Day; Limb Bizkit; etc. You should know these bands, they're constantly played on the radio. That is, if you listen to radio, I don't much these days, but when I did they were on all the time, and everyone I know still loves them, so, that's where I get this conclusion from.

Good Charlotte aren't Punk Rock. They even say so themselves --- They're just out there to please crowds, and they got labeled something they never thought they were. They're Pop Rock through and through.

Green Day, meh. They're Punk Rock, but they're mediocre.

Limp Bizkit are Nu-Metal. Nothing close to Punk Rock (or actual Metal).

If you want to see the "massive success of Punk", look into the Sex Pistols. And, for the sake of everyone's sanity, don't buy McLaren's bullshit.
Mariehamn
09-11-2005, 08:16
Good Charlotte aren't Punk Rock. They even say so themselves --- They're just out there to please crowds, and they got labeled something they never thought they were. They're Pop Rock through and through.
Green Day, meh. They're Punk Rock, but they're mediocre.
Limp Bizkit are Nu-Metal. Nothing close to Punk Rock (or actual Metal).
If you want to see the "massive success of Punk", look into the Sex Pistols. And, for the sake of everyone's sanity, don't buy McLaren's bullshit.
Whose McLaren? I dunno.

Anyhow, I think they're punk, and every piece of music must fall into a genre, or I am overcome with an ucontrolable bloodlust for order! Anyhow, its my opinion that Punk rock these days = Pop Rock, because Pop Rock, is popular rock, and Punks popular. And the Sex Pistols are pretty good.
Lashie
09-11-2005, 08:19
you made me choose between punk and ska...

lol, punk won definitely... but I would have liked to vote for both
Lashie
09-11-2005, 08:22
Whose McLaren? I dunno.

Anyhow, I think they're punk, and every piece of music must fall into a genre, or I am overcome with an ucontrolable bloodlust for order! Anyhow, its my opinion that Punk rock these days = Pop Rock, because Pop Rock, is popular rock, and Punks popular. And the Sex Pistols are pretty good.

the Sex Pistols are not just pretty good :rolleyes:

although I like The Clash better...
Amecian
09-11-2005, 08:27
you made me choose between punk and ska...

lol, punk won definitely... but I would have liked to vote for both

Agreed, would've been nice to have a multiple choice poll - even though your shooting for " the best " music, the majority could still be considered "best" by you - I suppose.
Potaria
09-11-2005, 08:32
the Sex Pistols are not just pretty good :rolleyes:

although I like The Clash better...

Have you listened to much Husker Du yet?
Kanabia
09-11-2005, 09:04
I don't think those are really considered actual subgenres by many people. I mean come on, forest metal is still folk metal, and how many bands besides Finntroll can you think of that you could call Troll Metal? And what about Oriental Metal--that's just pretty much Orphaned Land... And I have never heard of "Vedic Metal"...

Oh, what I love about this thread is the senseless listing of sub-generes...I don't even know what your talking about, thus making "metal" even less accessable to the "uninitiated," even though I think I already am, but I've decided I'm not.

Yeah, all this over classification gets silly sometimes.

I maintain that stoner metal is a genre though :p


the Sex Pistols are not just pretty good

although I like The Clash better...

Heard anything by the Dead Kennedys? :)
Mariehamn
09-11-2005, 09:12
Yeah, all this over classification gets silly sometimes.
I maintain that stoner metal is a genre though :p
And I maintain that Medieval Rock is its own genre. We're rebels with a cause, breakin' the law, breakin' the law! :p
Kanabia
09-11-2005, 09:20
And I maintain that Medieval Rock is its own genre. We're rebels with a cause, breakin' the law, breakin' the law! :p

*imagines electric lute*

That could be cool. :p
Ancient Valyria
09-11-2005, 09:44
Metal, in my opinion, is not Metallica, ACDC, Iron Madien, etc. because even though they were hard at their high points, now they just kinda don't sound angry or suicidal enough, when compared to the sensless rantings of Slipknot, Mushroomhead, and Mudvayne. I prefer to label them as Old School Rock.
*sniff sniff* I smell Bullshit!
Mariehamn
09-11-2005, 09:49
*sniff sniff* I smell Bullshit!
Oh, thought I could do that there.... :D

Anyhow, its just my opinion. If your one of my folk, and I don't know it, I retract the statement. And I'm quite certain you are...maybe...my friends do that BS thing a lot...if you knew me, you could probably identify me! ;) Think what you will! *and keep quiet, as I have no idea who you are*
ATLON
09-11-2005, 09:51
but i dont see the point of listening to guys scream into mikes, and not being able to understand what the song is actually about. Music has to be enjoyed, and metal doesnt fall into that category.

And who says it's not enjoyable? You? And also, what's with the rash generalization? Just because you don't know what it's about doesn't mean I don't. And what does understanding what it's about have to do with enjoying it? I know all the lyrics to the Beatles' "I am the Walrus," I love the song, but I haven't the foggiest idea of what it could be about. at all.
Amerigo
09-11-2005, 14:25
Oh, what I love about this thread is the senseless listing of sub-generes...I don't even know what your talking about, thus making "metal" even less accessable to the "uninitiated," even though I think I already am, but I've decided I'm not. Metal, in my opinion, is not Metallica, ACDC, Iron Madien, etc. because even though they were hard at their high points, now they just kinda don't sound angry or suicidal enough, when compared to the sensless rantings of Slipknot, Mushroomhead, and Mudvayne. I prefer to label them as Old School Rock. That's what me and my folk call 'em, uh-huh. And they're good, probably the best rock there's ever been.
Slpknot, Mushroomhead and Mudvayne are not real metal. Neither is ACDC. But Metallica and Iron Maiden are... and if you don't label old Metallica metal... I mean... come on... "Kill Em All" was one of the high points of thrash metal. There's really know opinion about it. These are general distinctions among genres.

Medieval Rock, like In Extremo and Corvus Corax are now my fav. Some people consider Medieval Rock another sub-genere of Metal, I like to think its not, as most Metal bands don't have crazy femal vocals, choruses, harps, or dress up like Medieval peasants for concerts. I have a feeling my Medieval Rock phase isn't going to go away.

It's metal. Medieval metal. At least I know In Extremo is. We have bands like Haggard also. They ain't rock. They're very much metal. You seem to have a horrid misconception of metal is and can be. But thats okay most people do.

But you are right metallers tend to be elitist, so thats why you have that misconception in the first place.
BackwoodsSquatches
09-11-2005, 14:40
*imagines electric lute*

That could be cool. :p


You should check out "Blackmore's Knight."

Ritchie Blackmore, of Deep Purple, and Rainbow fame.

Its kinda rock-ish, and kinda medieval-ish.

Not quite my cup o tea, but it was interesting.
The odd one
09-11-2005, 14:49
i couldn't decide between rock and punk, so i cheated and now im saying thast punk falls under the 'rock umbrella':p
Retired Majors
09-11-2005, 14:52
Country. Yeee-haw!
Fair Progress
09-11-2005, 14:58
That is not metal, that is crap.

Iron Maiden or Dream Theater is Metal. And Metal requires skil, some forms requiring a huge amount of talent and pratice.
Are you saying that Slipknot's music doesn't require skill?!
Kanabia
09-11-2005, 14:59
You should check out "Blackmore's Knight."

Ritchie Blackmore, of Deep Purple, and Rainbow fame.

Its kinda rock-ish, and kinda medieval-ish.

Not quite my cup o tea, but it was interesting.

Hmm, seems to be hard to track down. Tried limewire and soulseek and both came up blank. Might be my connection though, it's been giving me a bit of trouble tonight.
Ancient Valyria
09-11-2005, 15:31
Hmm, seems to be hard to track down. Tried limewire and soulseek and both came up blank. Might be my connection though, it's been giving me a bit of trouble tonight.
look for "Blackmore's Night" ;)
Ancient Valyria
09-11-2005, 15:34
Are you saying that Slipknot's music doesn't require skill?!
no, he's saying it requires less skill than real metal

can't deny that they have a great drummer though, but it's kinda ruined by the inclusion of the sampler, the dj and the two guys beating on cans :headbang:

they would probably be much better as a five-piece ;)
Zero Six Three
09-11-2005, 16:02
I kinda like slipknot. That's how I got into metal. At least they're better than Linkin Park. I don't really like any specific genre in metal except maybe stoner metal. I like Raging Speedhorn, Down, Corrosion Of Conformity, Crowbar. I also like Pantera (thrash), Opeth, Cynic, Coprofago (Death), Anaal Nathrakh (Black). I like a bit of Punk and Indie too.
Hoos Bandoland
09-11-2005, 16:24
Favorite music

Most music that came out between 1950 - 1970. After 1970, most of it sucked.
Kanabia
09-11-2005, 18:51
look for "Blackmore's Night" ;)

Aha! :)

It's a bit...meh. I don't know why, but i'm reminded of christmas carols.

no, he's saying it requires less skill than real metal

can't deny that they have a great drummer though, but it's kinda ruined by the inclusion of the sampler, the dj and the two guys beating on cans

they would probably be much better as a five-piece

Actually, they have two drummers, IIRC :p

I kinda like slipknot.

I think 70% of their music is mediocre, 20% is pretty terrible, and the remaining 10% is actually pretty good.

I don't really like any specific genre in metal except maybe stoner metal.

:fluffle: I thought I was the only one :D
Callisdrun
10-11-2005, 00:02
Aha! :)



Actually, they have two drummers, IIRC :p



They have three, two of which simply beat on trashcans and act stupid. Slipknot is like... I don't know, it's like noise rock for people who can't handle Mayhem.
Raharna
10-11-2005, 00:33
It's strange that topics asking about ANY musical preferences, always end up being discussions in the metal rules/metal sucks cathegorie.

ah... well ... might as well join in then: Metal rules !!!
Callisdrun
10-11-2005, 11:33
It's strange that topics asking about ANY musical preferences, always end up being discussions in the metal rules/metal sucks cathegorie.

ah... well ... might as well join in then: Metal rules !!!

Obviously, with the tastes of this forum, the original poster made a large error in omitting the massive and awesome metal genre.
Peisandros
10-11-2005, 11:35
I like anything. I love cafe style music, I like Deftones, I like Metallica, I like rap/hip hop/rnb, I like classical.. So I put other, I have no favourite.. Music is great in most forms.
Callisdrun
10-11-2005, 11:42
I like anything. I love cafe style music, I like Deftones, I like Metallica, I like rap/hip hop/rnb, I like classical.. So I put other, I have no favourite.. Music is great in most forms.

I bet you'd dislike some of my music :D
Mariehamn
10-11-2005, 12:04
I've fallen in love this site, currently listening to "Fiddlers Green" special. I suggest everyone try it, it has every genre, but they are all German artists. Not that its a problem! :D

And metal/rock sounds best in German in my opinion.

http://www.radiogoethe.org/index_e.htm
Strathdonia
10-11-2005, 13:16
I Voted Rock as technically metal can fall under that catagory (well classic rock magazines covers a lot of metal).

I have a sneaking suspicion that the author of the poll knew the popularity of metal on general and thus neglected to include it.

I can genrally find good stuff in msot genres but in general metal would be my main choice (primarily the 3Ms: maiden metallica and motorhead, but i also really enjoy good power/battle/symphonic metal).


As for the poll author's opinion of emtal, one msut wonder how on earth he has managed to completely avoid listening to any Iron Maiden during his life, Bruce Dickenson while a bit screamy at times is generally a very intelligable singer, heck he's better than just about anyone who has been on X-factor or pop idol...
BackwoodsSquatches
10-11-2005, 13:41
look for "Blackmore's Night" ;)


d'oh!

Curse you, un-needed K!
BackwoodsSquatches
10-11-2005, 13:44
Kanabia,

Do me a favor.

Look up the song, "Holiday" by Rick Wright.
From the album "Wet Dream".

Tell me what you think.
Assington
10-11-2005, 13:56
*assumes that most votes for other are for metal or some other respectable genre*

Metal has good and band but you can't deny the far superior amount of skill within good metal bands compared to mainstream pop/punk artists. Metal wins hands down.

As far as some good metal bands:

Iron Maiden
Metallica
Judas Priest
Black Sabbath
Savatage

to name a few.

Also check out Apocalyptica... I'm not really sure what to classify them as, but really great stuff.
Hullepupp
10-11-2005, 14:57
the music I wrot on my own

:p
Kanabia
10-11-2005, 15:32
Kanabia,

Do me a favor.

Look up the song, "Holiday" by Rick Wright.
From the album "Wet Dream".

Tell me what you think.

I can't quite place it, but it reminds me of Floyd for some reason...

Hehe. ;)

Actually, it's a really good song. I like :)
Balipo
10-11-2005, 15:35
Music is really such a diverse yet personal thing. I believe that everyone who exposes themselves to any kind of music will find something in that genre they enjoy. I must even admit that although I am an avid hater of country music that I like Kenny Rogers' "The Gambler". It's a good song.

So it's all pserspective. Widen your horizon and you'll find good music just about everywhere.
I V Stalin
10-11-2005, 15:55
Also check out Apocalyptica... I'm not really sure what to classify them as, but really great stuff.
Cello-metal! Woo! They're frikkin' great! Saw them support Rammstein earlier this year - 'twas truly amazing.
Lashie
12-11-2005, 12:09
Yeah, all this over classification gets silly sometimes.

I maintain that stoner metal is a genre though :p



Heard anything by the Dead Kennedys? :)

yep, they're awesome too...
Harlesburg
12-11-2005, 12:11
I voted Rock as it is so diversified you cannot say that about Hip hop it is all nonsense or African Tribal beats.

Stoner Rock could be a genre.
Kanabia
12-11-2005, 12:18
I voted Rock as it is so diversified you cannot say that about Hip hop it is all nonsense or African Tribal beats.

Stoner Rock could be a genre.

Stoner rock *is* a genre (www.stonerrock.com). :p
Potaria
12-11-2005, 12:20
yep, they're awesome too...

Husker Du. You must acquire more of their stuff, damnit.
Harlesburg
12-11-2005, 12:20
Stoner rock *is* a genre (www.stonerrock.com). :p
It must be true it is on the internet.
Stoner rock is a genre.
*official seal of the official mark of the official seal of Harlesburg approval.
Zero Six Three
12-11-2005, 13:53
Stoner rock *is* a genre (www.stonerrock.com). :p
K666 radio.. my new favourite station! Thank you!
Lionstone
12-11-2005, 14:18
Power Metal all the way
Kanabia
12-11-2005, 15:08
K666 radio.. my new favourite station! Thank you!

:cool:
Cwazybushland
12-11-2005, 20:53
Rock, but more specifically, 50's rock. Larry Williams, Lloyd Price, Edgar Blanchard, Clifton Chenier. I could go on and on.
Cwazybushland
12-11-2005, 20:55
Cogent argument there, mate. You managed to find one example of a bad metal band (still just in your opinion) and that allows you to write off an entire genre? Nice work.

Coincidentally, have you actually listened to any other heavy metal? Or are you really so blinded as to dismiss it all on slipknot?

I know I did. Its so angry, gives me a headache. Why listen to that crap when you could listen to Larry Williams? Or the Greatful Dead? That stuff actually makes sence.
Cwazybushland
12-11-2005, 21:00
What the hell are you prattling on about? Yes, there are some metal bands, like slipknot, that are incomprehensible a lot of the time. But it's not all like that. Seriously, are you telling me you can't undertand what any metal is about? I think you're just a troll.

I once had a couple friends who likes metal. I listened to the crap for like an hour. I said I was getting a headache and to turn to a better station. They tried to convince me saying, it represents people who feel shunned by society. They are letting there anger out with the power of music. I said that it represented a bunch of life hating idiots doing angel dust. I personally like music to make me feel better, happier. Metal makes me feel worse and angry.
Amerigo
12-11-2005, 21:04
They tried to convince me saying, it represents people who feel shunned by society. They are letting there anger out with the power of music.
If they said THAT... your friends were probably not listening to real metal.
Cwazybushland
12-11-2005, 21:05
They probably played stuff like Dillenger Escape Plan...not metal.

Why cant you just accept the fact that he has listened to metal and doesnt like it? What is your problem? He has given you several examples and you still say, "Oh, its not real metal." Not everyone has to like what you like.
Cwazybushland
12-11-2005, 21:08
If they said THAT... your friends were probably not listening to real metal.

It was death metal, slayer, the song was raining blood. Sorry if thats not "real metal."
Teknograd
12-11-2005, 21:26
Depends on my mood.

Those that stand above the others:

Jazz (particularly Modern, Big Band, and Bop)
Classic Rock
Romantic(1800ish-1900ish) (Bethoven all the way baby.)
Lots of 20th century classical (Shastocowich(sp?) pwns)
And some rock is starting to get good again.
This is by no means a complete list.

My choices exactly, except the 20th century classical. Though early punk (modern punk isn't even punk anymore) and grunge are great too.
Assington
13-11-2005, 00:19
This idea that metal makes people angry or depressed is complete bollocks.

What makes me sad is hearing some of the talentless shit coming out from the pop/rap genres and realising they have big record deals earning them much undeserved money. That is truly sad.
Potaria
13-11-2005, 00:22
This idea that metal makes people angry or depressed is complete bollocks.

Heh, try telling that to my dad...
Amerigo
13-11-2005, 00:53
It was death metal, slayer, the song was raining blood. Sorry if thats not "real metal."
Well that is real metal, but your friends have a very shallow perception of Slayer.

But that is one of the many faces of metal... So don't dismiss the whole genre of metal just because you don't like one subgenre.
Dr_Funkenstien
13-11-2005, 01:09
What makes me sad is hearing some of the talentless shit coming out from the pop/rap genres and realising they have big record deals earning them much undeserved money. That is truly sad.
Well, the whole "big label" record companies would rather have 1,000 mediocre bands that will make consistent money and disappear in time for the next mediocre group to spring up and make a profit out of. Their mentality is that if they have something worthwhile, what can they follow that up with? Most of the "ground breaking" stuff you might of heard is shut down right at the door. I mean, I can put on the radio right now on one of the local "R&B" stations and right off the bat I bet I'll hear Destiny's Child. That isn't R&B. That's over-produced pop music marketed towards the black audience. I fear that we will never hear another Sly and the Family stone or Graham Central station ever again.
Lashie
13-11-2005, 11:48
Husker Du. You must acquire more of their stuff, damnit.

:D be patient...
Kanabia
13-11-2005, 11:50
It was death metal, slayer, the song was raining blood. Sorry if thats not "real metal."

That's thrash metal, not death!!!!11111shift+1eleventy

[/elitist] ;)
Harlesburg
13-11-2005, 11:51
Lashie has a job
Hockey Stick Circle Hockey Stick!
Amerigo
13-11-2005, 22:04
That's thrash metal, not death!!!!11111shift+1eleventy

[/elitist] ;)
Nope--that's speed metal!

:D
Hullepupp
13-11-2005, 22:53
Richard Wagner
Letila
13-11-2005, 23:48
Richard Wagner

Boo!!!!
Potaria
13-11-2005, 23:52
:D be patient...

We could get on MSN and do it. :p
Maelog
13-11-2005, 23:54
Are you going to Scarborough fair?
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme.
Remember me to one who lives there!
For he was once a true love of mine.

I can't believe no-one's mentioned Elizabethan ballads yet :p
Hullepupp
14-11-2005, 00:07
Boo!!!!

guess u never heard it ???
Letila
14-11-2005, 01:20
guess u never heard it ???

Other than part of Ride of the Valkyries, no. However, despite my moral code being gutted by a terrifying encounter with Nietzsche, I am hard at work rebuilding my moral standards and am still not fond of anti-semitism.
Neo-Litaria
14-11-2005, 02:04
Is industrial metal, regular metal, electronica, game music, Bond music (it's a class all of it's own in my opinion)...god I've went from being a pure Rammstein fan to being fairly eclectic music lover<------(how to pronounce?). But, that's me.
Kanabia
14-11-2005, 13:12
Nope--that's speed metal!

:D

lol, whatever. :p

I'm not a big Slayer fan anyways.
Bersabia
14-11-2005, 13:14
The best music is the music that you remember for years after it came out not because it was annoying (not including novelty songs) but because it was really good regardless of the genre
King Graham IV
14-11-2005, 13:21
Proper metal IMO is stuff from the 80s like Metallica, GnR, Pantera, etc. All the technical crap...try playing a Metallica solo, omg, as an electric guitarist i can say they are really tough! Metal, IMHO is probably one of the hardest thing to play (on an instrument) technically as it is so loud, so fast and because it is so diverse, you have to be different to make anyone notice you and therefore you have to be very technically advanced on your instrument!

Slipknot were a bit of a travesty to metal, but songs like Duality, where they had 2 drummers, 4 guitarists and 2 singers was amazing, that double bass on the drums, omg!

umm...yes, metal.
Kanabia
14-11-2005, 13:29
Proper metal IMO is stuff from the 80s like Metallica, GnR, Pantera, etc. All the technical crap...try playing a Metallica solo, omg, as an electric guitarist i can say they are really tough! Metal, IMHO is probably one of the hardest thing to play (on an instrument) technically as it is so loud, so fast and because it is so diverse, you have to be different to make anyone notice you and therefore you have to be very technically advanced on your instrument!

Eh, I don't really find Metallica solo's that much more difficult compared to a lot of rock stuff. They're good to learn, but not that amazing.
Funky Beat
15-11-2005, 08:28
For what its worth, I like the whole indie (stupid word) rock movement, bands like Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand, The Strokes, The Hives, The Futurheads, Kings Of Leon, Goldfrapp, etc...

Older bands, I like Supertramp, The Rolling Stones, and Pink Floyd.

Sitting atop the glorious pile, in a genre all their own; The White Stripes!

To answer the question, the one blanket that fits all these bands can be more or less described as rock...
Callisdrun
15-11-2005, 08:36
Franz Ferdinand

I hate their music so much. I don't even know why, it just annoys the crap out me. I think I just got tired of it from their CD being played on the stereo in art class every single day last year.
Funky Beat
15-11-2005, 08:49
I hate their music so much. I don't even know why, it just annoys the crap out me. I think I just got tired of it from their CD being played on the stereo in art class every single day last year.


Over-playing something is a sure-fire way to make it annoying... especially mainstream stuff...

Punk music irritates me. All the crappy little sub-genres as well. Emo. What the hell? It's some talentless little adolescent kid strumming a guitar, trying to be artsy, wailing about life is shit, parents are shit, and the only thing that understands them is their knife... give me a break...
Kanabia
15-11-2005, 11:34
For what its worth, I like the whole indie (stupid word) rock movement, bands like Bloc Party, Franz Ferdinand, The Strokes, The Hives, The Futurheads, Kings Of Leon, Goldfrapp, etc...

I don't think those bands form a coherent sound at all. Especially the Hives, they're a little out of place sound-wise in that list, especially their early stuff, which is almost punk. Saw them live and they ruled, as well. :)

I also saw the Futureheads live this year. They're boring, IMO.


Sitting atop the glorious pile, in a genre all their own; The White Stripes!


Heh, not really! It's just blues-rock, and that has been around since rock and roll first began. Not to say they're crap, though.

If you want an example of another modern two-piece blues rock band that kicks butt, check out The Black Keys.
Kanabia
15-11-2005, 11:40
Over-playing something is a sure-fire way to make it annoying... especially mainstream stuff...

Punk music irritates me. All the crappy little sub-genres as well. Emo. What the hell? It's some talentless little adolescent kid strumming a guitar, trying to be artsy, wailing about life is shit, parents are shit, and the only thing that understands them is their knife... give me a break...

Have you heard any older punk stuff? (Up until the 90's) It's a world apart from most of the modern stuff....
Dr_Funkenstien
16-11-2005, 04:13
Metal, IMHO is probably one of the hardest thing to play (on an instrument) technically as it is so loud, so fast and because it is so diverse, you have to be different to make anyone notice you and therefore you have to be very technically advanced on your instrument!
If your talking about Rock music in general (sorry for being Genre-retarded but Metal to me is part of Rock) I would agreed with you as Metal can encompass bands like Racer-X which uses classical influences in their playing. Although they lack substance, to play that kind of music you need to have your chops together.

If, in fact, you are including all forms of music, look no further than Jazz as being technically demanding. I think guitarists especially have a hard time with this because they are playing in smaller enviroment with *much cleaner* tones which means everything you play is going to be heard. On top of that you also have to relate your solo to the ever moving chord changes. Their are more changes in the first measure of Jazz than they're in an entire song of metal. I'm being pretty broad here as their are just so many different bands that obviously don't have this common trait but if you get what I mean, you'll understand, even if you don't really agree.

You should check out some Prog-metal bands too as some of that stuff is way out there. :D
Einsteinian Big-Heads
16-11-2005, 04:19
I tend to like rock with an alternative streak.
Funky Beat
16-11-2005, 08:51
Have you heard any older punk stuff? (Up until the 90's) It's a world apart from most of the modern stuff....

The Clash, The Sex Pistols, The Buzzcocks, The Dropkick Murphys, The Dead Kennedies... not my style, though... I'm just not a punk, I guess... :p

If all goes well, I'll be going to the Big Day Out 2006 (If EBH stumps for the ticket, he still owes me 50 bucks) and seeing Franz Ferdinand, Kings of Leon, and THE WHITE STRIPES!!! :cool:
Kanabia
16-11-2005, 08:57
The Clash, The Sex Pistols, The Buzzcocks, The Dropkick Murphys, The Dead Kennedies... not my style, though... I'm just not a punk, I guess... :p

Fair enough.

If all goes well, I'll be going to the Big Day Out 2006 (If EBH stumps for the ticket, he still owes me 50 bucks) and seeing Franz Ferdinand, Kings of Leon, and THE WHITE STRIPES!!! :cool:

Heh, which one are you going to? I'm going for sure. :D
Funky Beat
16-11-2005, 09:00
Heh, which one are you going to? I'm going for sure. :D

I live in Adelaide, so logic suggests that I'll be going to that one... few things stopping me though...

a) Money. I don't have a job, and I'm sort of counting on Eisteinian Big-Heads to pay for half of my ticket, because he owes me for the October 2004 JET concert...

b) I'm in year 12 next year, and I think the BDO is on a weekday... I can sidestep the whole missing school thing but my teachers might not be so forgiving...
Kanabia
16-11-2005, 09:05
I live in Adelaide, so logic suggests that I'll be going to that one... few things stopping me though...

a) Money. I don't have a job, and I'm sort of counting on Eisteinian Big-Heads to pay for half of my ticket, because he owes me for the October 2004 JET concert...

b) I'm in year 12 next year, and I think the BDO is on a weekday... I can sidestep the whole missing school thing but my teachers might not be so forgiving...

Yeah, I remember that. I couldn't afford my first one until this year. $115 for a ticket is highway robbery. And then they charge $5 for a can of beer. :mad:

And yeah...but for Adelaide, it's on the 3rd of February. Has your school year started by then?
Funky Beat
16-11-2005, 09:11
Yeah, I remember that. I couldn't afford my first one until this year. $115 for a ticket is highway robbery. And then they charge $5 for a can of beer. :mad:

And yeah...but for Adelaide, it's on the 3rd of February. Has your school year started by then?

First week back, I think... bah, at that stage the teachers will still be remembering names, and I hope that my parents as Pink Floyd fans will sympathise with my plight... money's the problem, though...

Still at school yourself?
Kanabia
16-11-2005, 09:14
First week back, I think... bah, at that stage the teachers will still be remembering names, and I hope that my parents as Pink Floyd fans will sympathise with my plight... money's the problem, though...

Still at school yourself?

Yeah, you should be able to get away with it. And if not, meh, you'll survive.

I'm on holidays now...i'll be in my final year of university next year. I don't start until March. :D
Funky Beat
16-11-2005, 09:17
Yeah, you should be able to get away with it. And if not, meh, you'll survive.

I'm on holidays now...i'll be in my final year of university next year. I don't start until March. :D

What degree are you going for?

Yeah, sure I'll survive... but concerts with the White Stripes aren't just concerts, they're life experiences...
Unabashed Greed
16-11-2005, 09:17
The blues is The best genre of music. If you doubt that, just listen to some Little Walter, or Sonny Boy Williamson (both I and II) some time.

The blues is closely followed by FUNK. I mean funk a la George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, and all those who follow in the P-Funk vein.
Kanabia
16-11-2005, 09:22
What degree are you going for?

Yeah, sure I'll survive... but concerts with the White Stripes aren't just concerts, they're life experiences...

I'm hanging out for Iggy Pop myself...probably the only chance i'll ever get to see him, and it gives me some punk credibility, which is hard to come by nowadays. :D

I'm only doing an Arts degree. I wasn't sure what I wanted to do, but I figured if I don't get a job I can always go back and do Science or something.

The blues is The best genre of music. If you doubt that, just listen to some Little Walter, or Sonny Boy Williamson (both I and II) some time

Yeah. Rock is nothing without the blues, so its a shame to see it miss out on the poll.
Funky Beat
16-11-2005, 09:25
I'm hanging out for Iggy Pop myself...probably the only chance i'll ever get to see him, and it gives me some punk credibility, which is hard to come by nowadays. :D



Ahh... reputation-building... good stuff... :p

I was amazed when I saw the line-up and saw Iggy and the Stooges... I had to do a double take because I thought that I was seeing things...
Kanabia
16-11-2005, 09:28
Ahh... reputation-building... good stuff... :p

I was amazed when I saw the line-up and saw Iggy and the Stooges... I had to do a double take because I thought that I was seeing things...

Yeah, me too. I was like "Wha? Isn't he dead yet?" :D
Funky Beat
16-11-2005, 09:30
Yeah, me too. I was like "Wha? Isn't he dead yet?" :D

Perhaps all the drugs are prolonging his life...
Kanabia
16-11-2005, 09:31
Perhaps all the drugs are prolonging his life...

Yeah. He's "died" enough times that he's developed an immunity to death itself.
Funky Beat
16-11-2005, 09:37
Yeah. He's "died" enough times that he's developed an immunity to death itself.

Perhaps he is death!

Dead or not, it should be a great show...
Funky Beat
16-11-2005, 09:49
Well... I really should start that Industrial Relations assignment now... (ie. watch the Aus v Uruguay playoff)

Talk to you later, then.