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The fact remains that our country (their country, if you're european, or some other person from the other much bigger part of the world) is a fine country, but over the years, it's gotten worse, and worse. Is the only solution a dictater? History has shown most dictaters to be complete jerks. The familiar saying goes: "absolute power corrupts absolutly." Therefore, even if we had a good ruler, could it be he would eventualy stop caring about us, and care more about himself? Take a second to answer this poll, then let the debate begin.

Is the only solution a dictater?
no.

And it's dictator.

Dictaters? What's dictaters, precious?

"Dictator" with an "o." "Dictater" is either the nickname given to the man named "Richard Potato" or a potato who says things.

No, the US is not a dictatorship, it need not become a dictatorship, and I don't see any reason that it ever will become a dictatorship. No matter what Chicken Little tells you.

Dictaters? What is dictaters, precious?
Hey, I got the pun! :)

america needs to stay the same as it is.... and i believe thats a democratic republic.

The fact remains that our country (their country, if you're european, or some other person from the other much bigger part of the world) is a fine country, but over the years, it's gotten worse, and worse. Is the only solution a dictater? History has shown most dictaters to be complete jerks. The familiar saying goes: "absolute power corrupts absolutly." Therefore, even if we had a good ruler, could it be he would eventualy stop caring about us, and care more about himself? Take a second to answer this poll, then let the debate begin.
There's a counter-saying to that, you know. "Absolute power doesn't corrupt - it draws those who have already corrupted themselves."

Anyway, mmm, I don't think that dictatorship is either the only way out or historically inevitable. I think all we need is to be more considerate of the needs of others in our actions, up to and including the votes we cast.

Hey, I got the pun! :)

Ah. Lovely to see a reference appreciated.

A better Democracy. The American democracy never really was democracy. And Bush is a Dictator. Thats right Dictator, not Dictater.

Dictaters? What's dictaters, precious?
I gotcha pun too!

America should become a democracy, not a dictatorship. And none of this not-so-democratic republic crap. Democracy is fine and it'll work if you make it mandatory.

Do you like republics, raw and wigling?

A better Democracy. The American democracy never really was democracy. And Bush is a Dictator. Thats right Dictator, not Dictater.
Bush is neither a dictator nor a penis shaped potato. Bush is just a bad president.

America should become a democracy, not a dictatorship. And none of this not-so-democratic republic crap. Democracy is fine and it'll work if you make it mandatory.
Only problem with democracy is that pesky "rights of the minority" concept. Given that we find it so important to uphold, it's hard to implement full democracy and not easy (although not so hard) to defend the call to abandon the rights of the minority.

The reason it's easier to call for the minority group to just get trampled is because, well, they're not like us - they believe different things, they eat different things, they killed our god, they're inherently sinful from birth, or just plain sore winnership.

First of all. In all technicality America is a democratic republic... as, more or less, most of the western world is. The problem with america arises in the media because America has prooved time and time again that it likes to cover its dirty tracks with clean lies, just how democratic this democracy is is yet to be seen and how much of what we are told is true and how much is untrue.

As far as dictators are concerned it entirely depends on the person. For example someone who is completely selfless wouldn't be corrupted in the same way someone who is selfish is (that doesnt matter whether they are increadibly selfish or just the tiniest bit, the fact that they are still remains).

Bush is neither a dictator nor a penis shaped potato. Bush is just a bad president.
That is the smartest thing I have heard anyone say about anything.
iSig.

That is the smartest thing I have heard anyone say about anything.
iSig.
Sir I am honored. Also isn't your response a direct quote from the Family Guy episode where the daughter becomes a Britney Spears style popstar?

That is the smartest thing I have heard anyone say about anything.
iSig.
It is good, but since it isn't about me, I can't very well siggify it. Sorry Drunk.

Dr. D: "We got to get her half naked and put her out front center stage...that's going to make y'all billionairs because America loves hot, white, jailbait ass."

Peter Griffen: "Wait a minute...that's the smartest thing I've ever heard anyone say about anything."

It is good, but since it isn't about me, I can't very well siggify it. Sorry Drunk.

I'd say Libertarian Republic. Very small government, and people will have to rise or fall on their own merits.

I'd say Libertarian Republic. Very small government, and people will have to rise or fall on their own merits.
So would this Libertarian Republic of yours confiscate inheritances?

It is good, but since it isn't about me, I can't very well siggify it. Sorry Drunk.
I'd say Libertarian Republic. Very small government, and people will have to rise or fall on their own merits.
Its an on topic non-sequitor. The Universe has many wonders as yet unseen it appears.

And the Family Guy quote was intentional.

Other- socialist revolutionary government, followed by socialist democracy, followed by communism.

w00t.

The fact remains that our country (their country, if you're european, or some other person from the other much bigger part of the world) is a fine country, but over the years, it's gotten worse, and worse. Is the only solution a dictater? History has shown most dictaters to be complete jerks. The familiar saying goes: "absolute power corrupts absolutly." Therefore, even if we had a good ruler, could it be he would eventualy stop caring about us, and care more about himself? Take a second to answer this poll, then let the debate begin.


Maybe I'm awfully naive, but worse than what? How are we worse today than we were 25, 50, 100 or 200 years ago?

The only thing worse is the dissemination and popularization of negative news by the media.

There have always been isolated idiots making mistakes in government.

There will always be an older generation thinking the younger generation is out of control.

There will always be war and dissention between countires and people.

Educate me on something new.

Dictaters? What's dictaters, precious?

I think it means rule by that dick, Mr. Potato Head. Hmm, maybe we ARE a dic-tater-ship.

Virtual Democracy, with some more complex issues, such as taxation and and such, left to expert comittees. Lawmakers will be replaced by academics who will argue their various points, for the love of politics. Costs would go down tremendously.

Olara']So would this Libertarian Republic of yours confiscate inheritances?

Nope, nope, nope. :)

If America became a Dictatorship then everything this nation once was, was for nothing. And millions died making and keeping it free from tyranny and persecution. America is not by any means a perfect nation, but what it does, it makes a difference if it where not for a successive line of ignorant presidents.

I say it needs to be a Republic once more. Or move closer to socialism to bring out the better aspects of this nation. I for one am very critical of what this Nation does. But every citizen should be, expecting nothing less but the best from their government, its military and themselves. If the current system is failing, its not the systems fault its everyones for letting it get that way.

the south shall rise again

The fact remains that our country (their country, if you're european, or some other person from the other much bigger part of the world) is a fine country, but over the years, it's gotten worse, and worse. Is the only solution a dictater? History has shown most dictaters to be complete jerks. The familiar saying goes: "absolute power corrupts absolutly." Therefore, even if we had a good ruler, could it be he would eventualy stop caring about us, and care more about himself? Take a second to answer this poll, then let the debate begin.
"Dick-tater?" Is that a potato that looks like a dick, or a dick that looks like a potato? :D

I think it means rule by that dick, Mr. Potato Head. Hmm, maybe we ARE a dic-tater-ship.
The feministis seem to think that we're already subject to "rule by dicks!" :D

the south shall rise again
OH SHIT! *Nukes antartica*

the south shall rise again
that's it I'm moving to Canada or the moon

that's it I'm moving to Canada or the moon
don't lie

it makes jesus cry

and he's in orbit so his tears could kill a guy if they landed on him

so don't take the chance

Yeah I'll say, you vote once and then you're stuck with whatever Wacko that gets elected, even if he filled the election with so much bull that no one knew what was going on. Right now, with the system of Checks and Balances missing due to the Republican Majority, it is a Dictatorship.

Yeah I'll say, you vote once and then you're stuck with whatever Wacko that gets elected, even if he filled the election with so much bull that no one knew what was going on. Right now, with the system of Checks and Balances missing due to the Republican Majority, it is a Dictatorship.
i for one like the republican majority :)

even if only because it pisses off most college students

I'm going to be frank with all of you. First of all, we all make spelling mistakes, so lay off the kid, eh? Second of all, putting a dictator in place means a complete destruction of liberty and every right you have dies like Mary Queen of Scotts (don't ask me why i used her). Sure, the government would be efficaint, but anyone in their right mind wouldn't WANT the government to be efficiant, and I'll tell you why. An efficiant government is efficiant at one thing, taking away your rights. This is because the efficiant government is either a dicatorship, a parlamentry system, or a democracy. Why parlamentry and democracy you ask? Because Parlamentry and democratic systems are geared more towards the will of the masses, leaving the minorities trampled. Infact, our Founding Fathers feared efficiancy and direct democracy so much, they made the first article of the Constitution the longest. Why the first article? Because it has to deal with congress. Why congress? Because it's the most democratic. What's wrong with that? Well let's be reasonable here, at the time, Pennsylvania had no executive branch, it was all legislative, and it was known for taking the most rights away from its people. Beginning to see why our nation is a Federal Republic? So what seems to you as idiocy on the part of the government is actually the grand design of the Founding Fathers....

Libertarian Socialism.

Nope, nope, nope. :)
So people won't rise and fall on their own merits. They'll rise and fall on the merits of their parents.

I'm going to be frank with all of you. First of all, we all make spelling mistakes, so lay off the kid, eh? THANK YOU FOR DEFENDING ME!!!!!

The fact remains that our country (their country, if you're european, or some other person from the other much bigger part of the world) is a fine country, but over the years, it's gotten worse, and worse. Is the only solution a dictater? History has shown most dictaters to be complete jerks. The familiar saying goes: "absolute power corrupts absolutly." Therefore, even if we had a good ruler, could it be he would eventualy stop caring about us, and care more about himself? Take a second to answer this poll, then let the debate begin.
Funny, other than having an unusually insane government at the moment, I don't see how America have gotten worse. If you look at your history, I'm pretty sure you'll agree that America have steadily improved since day 1.
Of course, I'm sure the African continent liked you better 200 years ago, but I doubt that's what you were getting at.

Is the only solution a dictater?
no.

And it's dictator.

No it isn't. A dictater is one who speaks of potatos. Only those who love taters are fit to rule this nation. Taters are the perfect food, and the only good raw material from which to make vodka. Without taters, vodka is just boring whiskey.

The feministis seem to think that we're already subject to "rule by dicks!" :D

Eut. The 70's are over. Get out of the Way-back Machine.
Neither disco nor Lynyrd Skynyrd will ever be culturally significant again.
Vietnam is no longer a front in the Cold War.
Liberal politics are no longer a front in the Cold War.
There is no Cold War.
Feminists =/= misandrists.

We've had at least two dictators so far, Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt.

Libertarian Socialism.

Lol, oxymoron. :D

A senate. Rome survived oh, 400 years with a Sanate? The only reason they crumbled was 1) The moronic, imbelesic, idoit, moronic senators killed him, and 2) WAY too large.

And the senators would be elected like they are now, so that solves things. Supreme court makes final descion after the Senate, so there's that.

The U.S. does that, I know, but the President changes many things.

ROE VS. WADE SUCKS.

Is the only solution a dictater?
no.

And it's dictator.
dictater: noun, All powerful ruling potatoe

dictater: noun, All powerful ruling potatoe
Since you're looking for something to put in your sig, why not the above?

- made me laugh at least.

Since you're looking for something to put in your sig, why not the above?

- made me laugh at least.
Something strikes me as morally wrong about quoting me in my sig.

Something strikes me as morally wrong about quoting me in my sig.
I would quote you, however you fall vastly short of my requirements for badass.

So people won't rise and fall on their own merits. They'll rise and fall on the merits of their parents.

Perhaps. But hey, where would we be if we had to start completely over from scratch? Science would be way behind, for certain.

Is life fair? No. This wouldn't be socialism, where egalitarianism is uber alles....

I would quote you, however you fall vastly short of my requirements for badass.
I'll show you badass, I'll bad your ass.


:fluffle: ;)

Stop with this stupidity, and debate ON subject.

Stop with this stupidity, and debate ON subject.

Seconded.

Stop with this stupidity, and debate ON subject.

Thirded...

:D

this thread is done

the answer is no :)