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Paris burns???

Daistallia 2104
31-10-2005, 16:47
Fourth night of riots in Paris (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/31/france.riots.reut/index.html)

I know I was busy over the weekend, but I am a bit surprised there seems to be no discussion of the Paris Riots...
Sierra BTHP
31-10-2005, 16:48
Fourth night of riots in Paris (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/31/france.riots.reut/index.html)

I know I was busy over the weekend, but I am a bit surprised there seems to be no discussion of the Paris Riots...

There was already a thread about teenagers rioting in Paris.
Damor
31-10-2005, 16:48
Fourth night of riots in Paris (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/31/france.riots.reut/index.html)

I know I was busy over the weekend, but I am a bit surprised there seems to be no discussion of the Paris Riots...There's another thread on it somewhere I think..
Just shoot the little bastards.. They have no valid reason to riot anyway.
The South Islands
31-10-2005, 16:49
Gee...I thought it was only the MSU Police (http://www.msu.edu/~harri131/) were the ones that used more teargas in one night then most nations use in a year.
Syniks
31-10-2005, 16:50
Fourth night of riots in Paris (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/31/france.riots.reut/index.html)

I know I was busy over the weekend, but I am a bit surprised there seems to be no discussion of the Paris Riots...
Send in TEAM AMERICA!

Fuck Yeah! ;)
Daistallia 2104
31-10-2005, 16:51
Can anyone point me to the supposedly active thread on this topic? I haven't seen it in the top 5 or 6 pages (and I'm on max threads to a page)
Swimmingpool
31-10-2005, 16:52
Shit I never heard about this. It is yet another incident to show that there is a crisis unfolding among Europe's immigrant communities.
Sierra BTHP
31-10-2005, 16:54
Send in TEAM AMERICA!

Fuck Yeah! ;)

No, the French police are more brutal, and are allowed by law to be more brutal, than any American police.
Syniks
31-10-2005, 17:00
No, the French police are more brutal, and are allowed by law to be more brutal, than any American police.
Aw, come on...

With just two missiles they got the Eifel, Triumph & the Louvre. Why let the Gendarmes have all the fun - send in the Puppets!
Drunk commies deleted
31-10-2005, 17:12
Why are they rioting? I have pretty much ignored the news for the past few days and this is the first I've heard of it.
Refused Party Program
31-10-2005, 17:14
Why are they rioting? I have pretty much ignored the news for the past few days and this is the first I've heard of it.

The Convenience stores are out of cheese.
Sierra BTHP
31-10-2005, 17:14
Why are they rioting? I have pretty much ignored the news for the past few days and this is the first I've heard of it.
1. Some French politician thinks the way to reduce crime is to have more police make aggressive sweeps through bad neighborhoods. Essentially, anyone who believes that spending money on more police really works should expect a reaction like this.

2. The neighborhoods in question are mostly populated by poor immigrants (or just poor people). A few kids got killed while fleeing the police. Understandably, people are upset.

3. Nice to know that the French (whose police were militarized with machineguns long before the US did the same) can screw up.
Marrakech II
31-10-2005, 17:20
Nice to know that the French (whose police were militarized with machineguns long before the US did the same) can screw up.


Remember the "tommy gun". I believe US police actually toned down since there heyday of the early 20th century.
Syniks
31-10-2005, 17:22
Why are they rioting? I have pretty much ignored the news for the past few days and this is the first I've heard of it.
Why else? They're French... they probably want an extra 22 weeks of paid Holiday, free Wine and the elimination of the English Language. :p
Sierra BTHP
31-10-2005, 17:26
Remember the "tommy gun". I believe US police actually toned down since there heyday of the early 20th century.

Most US police put those on a shelf after 1934. And records show that Thompson sold so few guns to law enforcement that his original company went bankrupt.

The French, on the other hand, happily hand out submachineguns to the police, who carry it as a standard sidearm. Nice.
Eutrusca
31-10-2005, 17:28
Fourth night of riots in Paris (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/31/france.riots.reut/index.html)

I know I was busy over the weekend, but I am a bit surprised there seems to be no discussion of the Paris Riots...
Now isn't THAT interesting! I was under the impression that riots were a uniquely American phenomenon.

And they actually fired tear gas cannisters into a MOSQUE??? OMG! Could it be that France has a nascent terrorist organization? Oh, the horror! The HORROR!
Kanabia
31-10-2005, 17:31
Most US police put those on a shelf after 1934. And records show that Thompson sold so few guns to law enforcement that his original company went bankrupt.

The French, on the other hand, happily hand out submachineguns to the police, who carry it as a standard sidearm. Nice.

Aren't US police departments issued with the MP5 in riot situations?
Kanabia
31-10-2005, 17:31
Now isn't THAT interesting! I was under the impression that riots were a uniquely American phenomenon.

France invented them. Remember the Bastille. :p
Sierra BTHP
31-10-2005, 17:32
It's nice to know that the French can screw up.

Of course, if you've read the history of French Intelligence (the SDECE), or the DGSE as it's called now, you'll find that they screw up as badly as the CIA, and just as often.
Kanabia
31-10-2005, 17:35
Of course, if you've read the history of French Intelligence (the SDECE), or the DGSE as it's called now, you'll find that they screw up as badly as the CIA, and just as often.

Ever heard of the sinking of the "Rainbow Warrior"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior
Sierra BTHP
31-10-2005, 17:37
Ever heard of the sinking of the "Rainbow Warrior"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior

Yes. And Topaz, and other colossal screwups.

I'm beginning to think that making a government agency committed to secret intelligence plots is a recipe for screwup. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow - but sooner or later, something really spectacularly stupid.
Eutrusca
31-10-2005, 17:37
France invented them. Remember the Bastille. :p
That confrontation at the gates of the political prison which ignited the French Revolution? Nahh. Never heard of it! :D
Ariddia
31-10-2005, 17:39
The riots are actually in Clichy.

Here's what happened. A few days ago, two kids believed they were being chased by the police, and got themselves electrocuted when they scaled a wall. The police has confirmed the kids had done nothing wrong (apparently they ran because they saw other kids running, also for no fathomable reason), and claims it was not chasing them, although surviving kids were adamant they were. An investigation is underway.

People are rioting to protest against those deaths, which they blame on the police.


Some French politician thinks the way to reduce crime is to have more police make aggressive sweeps through bad neighborhoods.

*nods* Nicolas Sarkozy. A nasty little populist, who happens to be Minister of the Interior in our current right-wing government - i.e., he controls the police. He makes populist speeches about bringing back order everywhere, hates the more moderate right-wing Prime Minister (Dominique de Villepin), and wants to radically change France's traditional socio-economic system if ever he becomes President.
Kanabia
31-10-2005, 17:42
That confrontation at the gates of the political prison which ignited the French Revolution? Nahh. Never heard of it! :D

Les Americains. Il n'ya pas sens de l'histoire. ;)
Fass
31-10-2005, 17:56
Les Americains. Il n'ya pas sens de l'histoire. ;)

Les Australiens. Ils se foutent de la grammaire.
The Lone Alliance
31-10-2005, 18:04
Now isn't THAT interesting! I was under the impression that riots were a uniquely American phenomenon.

And they actually fired tear gas cannisters into a MOSQUE??? OMG! Could it be that France has a nascent terrorist organization? Oh, the horror! The HORROR!

A mosque? Great now they will have terrorist attacks.
Kanabia
31-10-2005, 18:05
Les Australiens. Ils se foutent de la grammaire.

Bah! Excusez-moi! J'ai étudié le français pour seulement une année! Baiser mon cul! :mad:
Eutrusca
31-10-2005, 18:08
Les Australiens. Ils se foutent de la grammaire.
ROFLMFAO!!!! :D
Fass
31-10-2005, 18:11
Bah! Excusez-moi! J'ai étudié le français pour seulement une année! Baiser mon cul! :mad:

Apparament, ils savent plaisenter mais n'ont pas compris qu'ils ne sont pas les seuls. Baiser des culs, je m'y amuse comme un petit fou. :p
Sierra BTHP
31-10-2005, 18:13
Ah, le font à moi !
Kanabia
31-10-2005, 18:14
Apparament, ils savent plaisenter mais n'ont pas compris qu'il ne sont pas les seuls.

Yes, well, i'm learning.

How would you have worded both of my mistakes, most high and mighty Fass?
The Lightning Star
31-10-2005, 18:24
Apparament, ils savent plaisenter mais n'ont pas compris qu'il ne sont pas les seuls. Baiser des culs, je m'y amuse comme un petit fou. :p

Bonjourrrrrrrr, you cheese eating surrender monkeys!

*looks around*

Yes, that was stupid, but I couldn't resist. Groundskeeper Willie's Scottish-ness propells me!
Branin
31-10-2005, 18:25
Paris burns???
Again??:confused: :( :eek: :p
Fass
31-10-2005, 18:32
How would you have worded both of my mistakes, most high and mighty Fass?

Well, I would have probably worded it like "Ils n'ont pas de sens de" or "Ils n'ont aucun sens de" and would have used the proper imperative for "baiser" and made it "baise(z) mon cul" or maybe even the "dative possessive," as it's called in German, and went with "baise(z)-moi le cul."

Or maybe I would have avoided "baiser" at all, as it can also mean "fuck," giving the meaning "fuck my ass," which may not have been what you wanted, and gone with "lèche/-moi le/mon cul," meaning "lick my ass," which is what a Frenchman would say, I believe.
Free Soviets
31-10-2005, 18:34
1. Some French politician thinks the way to reduce crime is to have more police make aggressive sweeps through bad neighborhoods. Essentially, anyone who believes that spending money on more police really works should expect a reaction like this.

who could ever doubt the effectiveness of making sure that law enforcement is viewed as a hated and feared enemy by people who aren't even involved in crime, and by getting officers to likewise view the populace as despised enemies or collaborators with the enemy?
Sierra BTHP
31-10-2005, 18:35
who could ever doubt the effectiveness of making sure that law enforcement is viewed as a hated and feared enemy by people who aren't even involved in crime, and by getting officers to likewise view the populace as despised enemies or collaborators with the enemy?

Stalin? The NKVD?
Kanabia
31-10-2005, 18:39
Well, I would have probably worded it like "Ils n'ont pas de sens de" or "Ils n'ont aucun sens de" and would have used the proper imperative for "baiser" and made is "baise(z) mon cul" or maybe even the "dative possessive," as it's called in German, and went with "baise(z)-moi le cul."

Or maybe I would have avoided "baiser" at all, as it can also mean "fuck," giving the meaning "fuck my ass," which may not have been what you wanted, and gone with "lèche/-moi le/mon cul," meaning "lick my ass," which is what a Frenchman would say, I believe.

Thanks. It's easy to make fun, but more productive to let me know what i've done wrong so I don't fuck up in the future :p I was a little iffy on the first sentence, but I didn't know any better. Or maybe I did, but i'd forgotten.

Although I did know the alternate meaning of "baiser", I just wasn't sure whether you'd take it that way or not, and I didn't particularly care :p
People without names
31-10-2005, 18:55
i read the title, and thought; "paris hilton anounces she has STD?"
Kanabia
31-10-2005, 19:07
i read the title, and thought; "paris hilton anounces she has STD?"

That's old news.
Refused Party Program
31-10-2005, 20:56
Stalin? The NKVD?

Why would Stalin doubt the effectiveness of unashamed police brutality?