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I've always been interested in Star Wars, and long ago I heard that there are Actual Jedi's around, or people that formed it and go by its standards. I'm basically curious to see if there are any actual Jedi's somewhere, anywhere. I'd love to have a conversation with one to see how they live their lives and what they do. I hope I don't sound insulting or provoking when I ask to speak with a Jedi, but I'd like to understand and gain knowledge therein of this.

I thought of doing a poll, but I'm not so sure now, lol.

Anyway, hope for replies.

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I should have added a poll...

I've always been interested in Star Wars, and long ago I heard that there are Actual Jedi's around, or people that formed it and go by its standards.

39,000 of them in the UK alone, according to the 2001 census. Make of that what you will...

Pity the current Australian Government aka The Dark Side of the Australia, ignored Jedis in the latest census. If they didn't, Jedi would be a legit religion in Australia now.

JEEDAI!
I can't STAND them! Their hypocritical teachings, their smug self-arrogance (within the code or not it is endemic), they're just as bad as stinking Elves. Not to mention the fooooorce... woooooo, some religious hokey.

I cheered the Empire. CHEERED!

EDIT: (Jordaxia. Again. Stupid jolt won't lemme login...)

i'd like to be but i'm hardly 'strong with the force'. in fact, i'm a bit of a spaz ;)

JEEDAI!
I can't STAND them! Their hypocritical teachings, their smug self-arrogance (within the code or not it is endemic), they're just as bad as stinking Elves. Not to mention the fooooorce... woooooo, some religious hokey.

I cheered the Empire. CHEERED!

EDIT: (Jordaxia. Again. Stupid jolt won't lemme login...)

Might try registering Sith as a religion next census in Australia, thanks. :D

I have a friend who registered as Jedi in the census in the UK, but he's not actually one.

Might try registering Sith as a religion next census in Australia, thanks. :D


Actually, unlike the sith namesake jolt is forcing me to use whilst my own glorious pc is cut offline, I hate the sith just as much. Indeed, it is the force as a whole, I hate. I can tolerate the emperor, as instead of using the force, he builds ruddy great battlemoons.

Seriously, the force is the most extensive, and annoying "plot device" I've ever seen. "You can do it!" "How?" "You've got **The Force**"
*shudder*


General Grievous all the way, but even he is trumped by the stinking force.

Anybody who pluralises with an apostrophe in the house?

I have a friend who registered as Jedi in the census in the UK, but he's not actually one.
My brother also did that. I'm not sure whether to think "Take that, Government monitoring!" or "Oh god, another stupid fashion...".

39,000 of them in the UK alone, according to the 2001 census. Make of that what you will...

People were just writing that in because they didn't want to declare. Not something I really understand.

My brother also did that. I'm not sure whether to think "Take that, Government monitoring!" or "Oh god, another stupid fashion...".

He was trying to be very snarky anti-government-esque. He was in fact just following a trend. But, for a good cause, so I'm not going to get too judgemental.

Anybody who pluralises with an apostrophe in the house?
Some linguists argue that it's okay (and even preferable) to use an apostrophe when pluralising a proper noun. Apparently they see it as some extension of the '60's/70's/80's/90's' concept. I'm not so sure myself.

Some linguists argue that it's okay (and even preferable) to use an apostrophe when pluralising a proper noun. Apparently they see it as some extension of the '60's/70's/80's/90's' concept. I'm not so sure myself.

If by "okay" you mean "utterly retarded" then yes. If you mean "grammatically correct", then no. It's a rule that one should have learned by the age of ten at the latest.

Ok. 'Jedi's' is wrong, and I'm sure the thread starter hangs their head in shame. Maybe we should get back to discussing more important things, like sci-fi movies and fake religion?

Ok. 'Jedi's' is wrong, and I'm sure the thread starter hangs their head in shame. Maybe we should get back to discussing more important things, like sci-fi movies and fake religion?

*Twacks*

Excuse me Grammer nazi! Sorry for not appeasing your tastes! Now get out of here! ;) :D

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Lol

Ok. 'Jedi's' is wrong, and I'm sure the thread starter hangs their head in shame. Maybe we should get back to discussing more important things, like sci-fi movies and fake religion?

I think someone should campaign to have Jedi recognised.

I think someone should campaign to have Jedi recognised.

It is recognised, or at least in Britain; that's what we were talking about. I think if 10,000 people declare themselves members in the census, it is recognised.

No, shit, I'm wrong. Sorry. It's not an official religion, although there may well be individual official churches.

If by "okay" you mean "utterly retarded" then yes. If you mean "grammatically correct", then no. It's a rule that one should have learned by the age of ten at the latest.
According to the Oxford Guide To The English Language, apostrophes can be used in plural in the follow cases:

1) Plurals of single letters
2) Plurals of abbreviations
3) Plurals of numbers
4) For clarity

As examples of (4) they give the words do's (as in do's and don'ts), ex's and yes's. A case could be made for saying Jedi's is clearer than Jedis (especially if you don't know the word Jedi, and would be liable to pronounce the latter plural /jed-iss/).

According to the Oxford Guide To The English Language, apostrophes can be used in plural in the follow cases:

1) Plurals of single letters
2) Plurals of abbreviations
3) Plurals of numbers
4) For clarity

As examples of (4) they give the words do's (as in do's and don'ts), ex's and yes's. A case could be made for saying Jedi's is clearer than Jedis (especially if you don't know the word Jedi, and would be liable to pronounce the latter plural /jed-iss/).

And I sure clarity was why it was used in this case....

Oh My Lord, if this thread is going to be full of my grammical ERROR then I do NOT want it to be around. Just because I made a mistake, in which I used such word many times and no one corrected me then, then I am SORRY. Please, for the Love of all that is LEFT SANE, Forgive me and go on with your lives!

*mummbles*

Grammer nazis......

Now, please, can we get back on topic? Just because I'm a 19 Year old Southerner doesn't make me an idiot. Well, not all the way. Please, back on topic, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone with that grammical Error.

STOP THIS. It doesn't matter. Let it go.

Anyway, yes, apparently Jedism/Jediism/whatever is not an official religion in Britain; the campaign to get it recognised as such was a hoax. But, with 390,000 people playing along, a fairly successful one.

Oh My Lord, if this thread is going to be full of my grammical ERROR then I do NOT want it to be around. Just because I made a mistake, in which I used such word many times and no one corrected me then, then I am SORRY. Please, for the Love of all that is LEFT SANE, Forgive me and go on with your lives!

*mummbles*

Grammer nazis......

Now, please, can we get back on topic? Just because I'm a 19 Year old Southerner doesn't make me an idiot. Well, not all the way. Please, back on topic, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone with that grammical Error.

Actually I'd already got bored of it. I won't post any more grammar stuff. Even though you said grammical.

Actually I'd already got bored of it. I won't post any more grammar stuff. Even though you said grammical.

That's not grammar, it's spelling.

Ok Uber, you got me. Now, back to topic.

STOP THIS. It doesn't matter. Let it go.

Anyway, yes, apparently Jedism/Jediism/whatever is not an official religion in Britain; the campaign to get it recognised as such was a hoax. But, with 390,000 people playing along, a fairly successful one.

But how exactly was it started? What is the purpose of it? How do people live their lives in Jedism?

Oh My Lord, if this thread is going to be full of my grammical ERROR then I do NOT want it to be around. Just because I made a mistake, in which I used such word many times and no one corrected me then, then I am SORRY. Please, for the Love of all that is LEFT SANE, Forgive me and go on with your lives!
Sorry, it's just that when someone points out a supposed grammatical error and are (or may be) incorrect, I just have to quote from The Oxford Guide To The English Language. I can't stand people who try to correct mistakes but clearly don't know what they're talking about. (See http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Befunge#A_grammar_note for the infamous comma-goes-outside-the-quote argument...)

Sorry, it's just that when someone points out a supposed grammatical error and are (or may be) incorrect, I just have to quote from The Oxford Guide To The English Language. I can't stand people who try to correct mistakes but clearly don't know what they're talking about. (See http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Befunge#A_grammar_note for the infamous comma-goes-outside-the-quote argument...)

Its aight, no problem here. I appriciate ya'lls insight in grammer correction, and I ment absolutely no insult in my little rant, lol.

Now, back to topic.

But how exactly was it started? What is the purpose of it? How do people live their lives in Jedism?
The majority are people who think its cool to pretend to be a Jedi. Then there's a minority of people who take the films far too seriously, and actually regard the wisdom of Yoda much as Christians regard the teachings of Christ.

But how exactly was it started? What is the purpose of it? How do people live their lives in Jedism?

I don't know how it was started. I suspect its purpose was 'OMG that would roxxor', and was probably started by slightly geeky, slightly stoned Star Wars fans.

As for actually doing Jedism, I don't know. But it has had much written on it comparing it to Buddhism and certain other religions, so perhaps ideas such as meditation and reflection would be important.

The majority are people who think its cool to pretend to be a Jedi. Then there's a minority of people who take the films far too seriously, and actually regard the wisdom of Yoda much as Christians regard the teachings of Christ

Ah, well. That would make sense, if people are seriously devoted to it. Thanks for the reply.

I don't know how it was started. I suspect its purpose was 'OMG that would roxxor', and was probably started by slightly geeky, slightly stoned Star Wars fans.

As for actually doing Jedism, I don't know. But it has had much written on it comparing it to Buddhism and certain other religions, so perhaps ideas such as meditation and reflection would be important.

Lol, perhaps.

That would make sense about meditations and reflections. Its a good guess, and I would, myself, assume that to be the case. Thanks for the reply.

When I was at school there was a kid called Jed Saygi (pronounced like 'tiger', but with an 's' not a 't') who, just to be awkward, founded his own religion called Jedism. Maybe he was ahead of the times.

When I was at school there was a kid called Jed Saygi (pronounced like 'tiger', but with an 's' not a 't') who, just to be awkward, founded his own religion called Jedism. Maybe he was ahead of the times.

Oooh, perhaps he was. Or perhaps he had another idea. Either way I'd hypothesize that Jedii of today are much like the ones in the Movies, concentrative on their future and present actions, reflecting on what needs to be reflected on.

I could be wrong, you know. But thats a different story all together.

I'd just like to HEAR from one, I won't bite! I hope no one else will either, cause I just want to know what you do as a Jedi IRL, you know? I'm not talking about the movie kind, just IRL.

Ok Uber, you got me. Now, back to topic.



How do people live their lives in Jedism?
the people who do practice jediism really just live their lives like anyone, they do meditate often to keep their minds in harmony with their surroundings.

the people who do practice jediism really just live their lives like anyone, they do meditate often to keep their minds in harmony with their surroundings.

Thanks for the reply!

Seems like someone highly devoted, like a monk, no disrespect intended. If jediism is like you say it is, then thats pretty darn cool. I'd love to have a IRL convo with one.

Hope to hear more!

i am actually in training to become one i have a master who teaches me how things are done

i am actually in training to become one i have a master who teaches me how things are done

Really?

Whats it like?

itslike being a monk but we are permitted to take part in the normal world. we don't walk around in jedi robes but do wear them often. the meditation like i said comes often cause in today’s world it is easy for ones mind to wonder off of the task at hand and the purpose of ones life and future.

itslike being a monk but we are permitted to take part in the normal world. we don't walk around in jedi robes but do wear them often. the meditation like i said comes often cause in today’s world it is easy for ones mind to wonder off of the task at hand and the purpose of ones life and future.

Ah, and how true that is about the mind wondering.

You know, I'm a very open-minded spiritual person. I believe in God and Jesus and the like, all that good non-denominational stuff, but I'd be pretty interested in joining up to see what this Jedi business is about. Sadly, however, I'm not sure where to go around here, because I'd seriously like a first hand experience into it, to just see how I feel about it.

What else would be good to know? Can you describe some experiences?

yes it is hard to find some one around where you live and first hand experiences are a must. as an apprentice i have to work with my master daily. my most recent event that would be best to tell you about would be a 3 day training session that i had with him. see where i live there are lots of woods so my master found it best to train me there were i could learn to in tune my self with the natural environment around me often by blind folding me at night so no light from any source could help me find my way and he would lead me away from our camp and have me find my way back. it also involves physical training as well cause to train the mind you must train the body.

Actually you all have it wrong. There is no plural for Jedi. "I am a Jedi." "They are Jedi." "Jedi are being slaughtered everywhere because of Order Sixty-Six." Just thought that I'd let you know. :D

Anywhoo. I believe that most of those who claim to be Jedi or file under that, um, religion, are doing so more out of "Hey, this is cool," or "Take this, stupid government!" I'm sure, however, that there are a handful that actually believe the Jedi Code and what not.

yes it is hard to find some one around where you live and first hand experiences are a must. as an apprentice i have to work with my master daily. my most recent event that would be best to tell you about would be a 3 day training session that i had with him. see where i live there are lots of woods so my master found it best to train me there were i could learn to in tune my self with the natural environment around me often by blind folding me at night so no light from any source could help me find my way and he would lead me away from our camp and have me find my way back. it also involves physical training as well cause to train the mind you must train the body.

Thats very interesting. I'd be highly interested in training that takes my mind of current events around my life. However, it seems that there is a great deal of devotion in this. I wonder if I did join such, would my situations and problems hamper me? Lol, this isn't the time.

Anywho, what else does he teach you? Is there, besides Mental and Physical, an emotional and spiritual aspect to it?

I'm sure, however, that there are a handful that actually believe the Jedi Code and what not.
there are more than you would think that believe in such things as the jedi code. i am entering this in the way i was told how by one who does there may be others who do things difrently

Thats very interesting. I'd be highly interested in training that takes my mind of current events around my life. However, it seems that there is a great deal of devotion in this. I wonder if I did join such, would my situations and problems hamper me? Lol, this isn't the time.

Anywho, what else does he teach you? Is there, besides Mental and Physical, and emotional and spiritual aspect to it?
on the emotional side of things a jedi is to remain a calm collected individual that does not seek revenge or ponder on sadness and anger.
the spiritual side is that which is more like wiccan but yet different. we feel the world around us the energy moving through everything which is the force. and no none of any who i have met can move things with the force or do the jedi mind trick. but still once in you can feel the difference in the world around you.

Actually you all have it wrong. There is no plural for Jedi. "I am a Jedi." "They are Jedi." "Jedi are being slaughtered everywhere because of Order Sixty-Six." Just thought that I'd let you know. :D

Anywhoo. I believe that most of those who claim to be Jedi or file under that, um, religion, are doing so more out of "Hey, this is cool," or "Take this, stupid government!" I'm sure, however, that there are a handful that actually believe the Jedi Code and what not.

Well, you know. Grammer is grammer, let it be that.

Some people would perhaps have interest in seeing what its all about, like I do currently. Perhaps that is the case, but you have to give the benefit of the doubt to many a Jedi. Perhaps they do it for mental purposes? To calm down their raging thoughts and the like, or some other reason.

Believeing the Jedi Code would be sensable, seeing as it has wise words in it for those whom would train seriously in a monk-like fashion. No offense intended.

on the emotional side of things a jedi is to remain a calm collected individual that does not seek revenge or ponder on sadness and anger.

Yea, thats a good way of going about things. I would go so far as to say its what the Jedi strive to do in the Movies. No insult intended. :)

the spiritual side is that which is more like wiccan but yet different. we feel the world around us the energy moving through everything which is the force. and no none of any who i have met can move things with the force or do the jedi mind trick. but still once in you can feel the difference in the world around you.

Well, I wouldn't call it wiccan. I became interested in the Energy phenomenon a while back, but if it was wiccan I wouldn't have known back then. I tried it out myself, and even think about it till this day. Its pretty interesting, but mainly noadays I concentrate on my personal spiritual beliefs on energies and where they come from.

Kinda hard to describe there, but at least I know what yer talking about, lol.

On the jedi moves and the like, it would be interesting to see someone do those things. Yet, it is understandable to hear that no one has. However, anything thought up is quite possible, you never know.

Ok...um....something else....

Do ya'll use weapons of any kind in training?

I have a sword myself, and sometimes I go out and practice with it. Saying this as personal reference. :)

well no actual weapons but i have been trained to use a wooden sword which i don't see as a weapon but to some you could see it as one but i am also a great marksman with a bow and a gun but never have i needed such talents in my path as a jedi

well no actual weapons but i have been trained to use a wooden sword which i don't see as a weapon but to some you could see it as one but i am also a great marksman with a bow and a gun but never have i needed such talents in my path as a jedi

Naturally, that would make sense. If you went off and attacked someone you would get arrested. But I suppose I could reverse its meaning and ask about Self Defense, how would you defend yourself per your training?

A bow and a gun? Cool. I've always wanted to be good with a bow, not enough patience I suppose. But at least I got my sword! Lol.

the swordsmen ship that i have been taught is much like that of a samurai its means are to defend and to attack although i must say i still need much practice

the swordsmen ship that i have been taught is much like that of a samurai its means are to defend and to attack although i must say i still need much practice

Alright, thats cool.

This is turning out to be a great conversations, lets not let it die!

So...um...how do you meditate? I mean, what is your motive and what helps you reach that state of meditation?

One thing about all of this:.......... LMAO

if you meant without any weapon i have been thought hand to hand but i like to find a ay of conversing to stop a fight before it ever gets started

One thing about all of this:.......... LMAO

You are entitled to your opinion, but unless you have something productive to say in this convo please refrain from posting. :)

if you meant without any weapon i have been thought hand to hand but i like to find a ay of conversing to stop a fight before it ever gets started

Thats always a good way to refrain from violence. Better to be open about the other persons problems and try to patch up stuff than to break it all apart.

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So...um...how do you meditate? I mean, what is your motive and what helps you reach that state of meditation?

Just as a reminder, just in case, and NOT ment to bug.

Alright, thats cool.

This is turning out to be a great conversations, lets not let it die!

So...um...how do you meditate? I mean, what is your motive and what helps you reach that state of meditation?

my motive is to become more in tune with myself most people would like this cause who doesn't want to know exactly who they are and what the would do even in an involuntary response this is complete understanding this is my motivation. i reach that state by being able to block out sound completely and usually closing my eyes help cause vision can stop one from reaching a meditative state

my motive is to become more in tune with myself most people would like this cause who doesn't want to know exactly who they are and what the would do even in an involuntary response this is complete understanding this is my motivation.

Oh, I didn't mean to push forward with asking a motive, lol. Sorry if I pressed anything. However, it is a sensable and agreeable motivation.

i reach that state by being able to block out sound completely and usually closing my eyes help cause vision can stop one from reaching a meditative state

I wish I could do all that. I tell ya, if what your being tought is how your doing things, I should learn more about it. If theres anything I need its how to meditate properly and calm down.

Hmmmm.....I really don't know what else to ask. I'm sure there is something...

Well, I suppose theres this...

In a spiritual sense, what is the best experience you have had with being a Jedi?

there really is no set style to meditating each person finds there own. but to reach a meditative state i would suggest clearing your mind of senseless thoughts that mean nothing and focus on the one thing u need to meditate on if that’s what your needing if your just meditating to calm your self then just clear your mind and block it from anything and focus on aligning you body and mind

there really is no set style to meditating each person finds there own. but to reach a meditative state i would suggest clearing your mind of senseless thoughts that mean nothing and focus on the one thing u need to meditate on if that’s what your needing if your just meditating to calm your self then just clear your mind and block it from anything and focus on aligning you body and mind

*Nods* Good advice. I'm still training myself in those things, if I can ever start back to doing meditation in the sense of sitting and calming the mind. I sometimes wonder why I stopped, I guess I just feel so busy.

So....what other things can you say concerning Jedism?

Well, I suppose theres this...

In a spiritual sense, what is the best experience you have had with being a Jedi?
the best experience i have had as a jedi... well i use to be a really depressed person and came close to killing myself many times mainly cause i hated my self and found no comfort in church and god and then i met my master at a convention that i was at and with his training as a jedi i no longer need medication such as anti-depressants which really didn't work on me and to tell you the truth i'm in the best mental stat i have ever been in I’m truly happy
but i need to go i have to meet my master soon and then need to get to sleep cause i work 3rd shift but i have your aim address on my BL and i well talk with you later and answer any more questions that you have

the best experience i have had as a jedi... well i use to be a really depressed person and came close to killing myself many times mainly cause i hated my self and found no comfort in church and god and then i met my master at a convention that i was at and with his training as a jedi i no longer need medication such as anti-depressants which really didn't work on me and to tell you the truth i'm in the best mental stat i have ever been in I’m truly happy
but i need to go i have to meet my master soon and then need to get to sleep cause i work 3rd shift but i have your aim address on my BL and i well talk with you later and answer any more questions that you have

*nods* Aight, well, if you need my MSN just ask. Hawk30168 is my AIM. Hope to talk to ya soon.

I've rather enjoyed this conversation, and to hear that being a Jedi has helped you so much is rather uplifting. I have other things that help me through my hard times, but I always have room for trying something new out.

Glad to talk to ya, and hope to talk to ya soon.

I suppose I can get on AIM for a bit...