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I myself enjoy Cigarettes, Cigars, and I have recently gotten into the habbit of smoking a pipe.

Now, that being said, Tobacco is one of the greatest pleasures of life to me. And when some people try to spoil my fun I naturally get indignant. I bring this up because earlier when I was at the mall with my boys I was enjoying a casual smoke outside the movie place when this girl comes out of nowhere and says to me, "I hope you enjoy your cancer sticks because you won't be able to when you die of lung cancer." So I say, "Gee, no shit? I thought they had Vitamin C in them!" I then proceded to blow smoke in her face. After some indignant yelling she stormed off to go kill Puppies or knock over kids sandcastles or something to that nature.

I hate people like this. Those ruffians behind those truth commercials need to be lynched for discrimination against smokers... </rant>

I agree. I *usually* don't smoke (tobacco...i'll have the odd ciggie, but meh) but the holier-than-thou attitude of some non-smokers sickens me.

So what if someone is indulging in a somewhat risky habit? Their choice, not yours. If you don't like it, don't do it. How would they feel if you went up to them while they were eating an icecream, and you said "I hope you enjoy your processed saturated fats and end up dying of obesity related heart disease."

Me? I have no problem with smokers--on a public level anyway. All I ask is that they respect the fact that non-smokers may not want to have to inhale a lungfull of smoke when they walk into a restaurant. That or having smoke blown directly at them (unless they're being intolerant pricks).

Both of my parents are heavy smokers, and whenever I'm around them, I don't care at all if they smoke. However, they have the decency to, say, roll down their car windows should they smoke during a drive with me. That's considered polite manners, and should be highly encouraged. :)

I honestly don't see any point in smoking cigarettes... I smoked a cigar once, while smoking something much more enjoyable, and smellier... It didn't really do anything for me.

I myself enjoy Cigarettes, Cigars, and I have recently gotten into the habbit of smoking a pipe.

Now, that being said, Tobacco is one of the greatest pleasures of life to me. And when some people try to spoil my fun I naturally get indignant. I bring this up because earlier when I was at the mall with my boys I was enjoying a casual smoke outside the movie place when this girl comes out of nowhere and says to me, "I hope you enjoy your cancer sticks because you won't be able to when you die of lung cancer." So I say, "Gee, no shit? I thought they had Vitamin C in them!" I then proceded to blow smoke in her face. After some indignant yelling she stormed off to go kill Puppies or knock over kids sandcastles or something to that nature.

I hate people like this. Those ruffians behind those truth commercials need to be lynched for discrimination against smokers... </rant>
I completly agree with her only if you blew smoke in my face I would have thrown your pipe against the wall or stepped on whatever you were smoking.

Me? I have no problem with smokers--on a public level anyway. All I ask is that they respect the fact that non-smokers may not want to have to inhale a lungfull of smoke when they walk into a restaurant. That or having smoke blown directly at them (unless they're being intolerant pricks).

Both of my parents are heavy smokers, and whenever I'm around them, I don't care at all if they smoke. However, they have the decency to, say, roll down their car windows should they smoke during a drive with me. That's considered polite manners, and should be highly encouraged. :)
Agreed, all my friends smoke and as long as they make a conscious effort (which they do) to avoid blowing smoke at me we are fine

I have no problem at all with smoking, other people smoking, and although I get annoyed at the people who blab on about how you're killing yourself, etc. etc., I was tempted a few nights ago when I was talking to a friend at a convenience store, while drinking some pop I had bought there, to do the routine from Clerks when people came in to buy smokes

Now, that being said, Tobacco is one of the greatest pleasures of life to me. And when some people try to spoil my fun I naturally get indignant. I bring this up because earlier when I was at the mall with my boys I was enjoying a casual smoke outside the movie place when this girl comes out of nowhere and says to me, "I hope you enjoy your cancer sticks because you won't be able to when you die of lung cancer." So I say, "Gee, no shit? I thought they had Vitamin C in them!" I then proceded to blow smoke in her face.
:fluffle: I love you.

I myself enjoy Cigarettes, Cigars, and I have recently gotten into the habbit of smoking a pipe.

Now, that being said, Tobacco is one of the greatest pleasures of life to me. And when some people try to spoil my fun I naturally get indignant. I bring this up because earlier when I was at the mall with my boys I was enjoying a casual smoke outside the movie place when this girl comes out of nowhere and says to me, "I hope you enjoy your cancer sticks because you won't be able to when you die of lung cancer." So I say, "Gee, no shit? I thought they had Vitamin C in them!" I then proceded to blow smoke in her face. After some indignant yelling she stormed off to go kill Puppies or knock over kids sandcastles or something to that nature.
Huh. What right does she have to criticise your choice of cause of death? I don't want to breathe the stuff in myself, but if you were outside, it doesn't really affect anyone else.



I hate people like this. Those ruffians behind those truth commercials need to be lynched for discrimination against smokers... </rant>

Truth commercials? What are those?

I firmly believe it's people's own choice if they want to slowly kill themselves (or in any other way), just as long as they don't bother me while they're doing it.. Smoke does bother me, but there's always the option of walking away, or kindly ask if someone could give it a break, rather than get militant about it.

So, I assume that by blowing smoke in her face you were trying to show that you were the more mature individual, correct?

I did disagree with the blowing smoke in her face though. All she did was annoy you.

The problem comes in that militant non-smokers are trying to sell the idea that getting the most out of life and living longer are the same thing. I can't imagine a more horrible existence than living an extra 40 years at the cost of having to avoid being out in public and constantly trying to alienate people.

I simply would have said, "Didn't your mommy ever teach you that it is rude to make personal remarks to someone you don't know?"

Blowing smoke in her face? No, probably not.

I smoke, and if someone came up to me and said something like that, I would respond saying something in the manner of,

"I acknowledge, and feel, that my lungs are dying. I'm not stupid to what I do, I'm highly aware of it. Thank you for your concern."

Its my choice, and I'm trying to stop. I try not to smoke around younglings, or smoke around people that hate it. Whenever someone asks me not to smoke, I don't. But sometimes I do get stressed, and sometimes I do want a smoke. I go outside, and I do honor those younglings around me with good health as I stay very much away from them in smoking.

What I do is my choice, as is what I believe. If I smoke, allow me to smoke. If you ask me not to, I won't, especially if your in the car with me or giving me a ride.

I myself enjoy Cigarettes, Cigars, and I have recently gotten into the habbit of smoking a pipe.

Now, that being said, Tobacco is one of the greatest pleasures of life to me. And when some people try to spoil my fun I naturally get indignant. I bring this up because earlier when I was at the mall with my boys I was enjoying a casual smoke outside the movie place when this girl comes out of nowhere and says to me, "I hope you enjoy your cancer sticks because you won't be able to when you die of lung cancer." So I say, "Gee, no shit? I thought they had Vitamin C in them!" I then proceded to blow smoke in her face. After some indignant yelling she stormed off to go kill Puppies or knock over kids sandcastles or something to that nature.

I hate people like this. Those ruffians behind those truth commercials need to be lynched for discrimination against smokers... </rant>
My response to her:

"I hope you are enjoying being an opinionated bitch, because you won't be able to enjoy yourself very much after you get punched in the mouth by a smoker who's less restrained than I am."

I hate all tobacco products, but if you want to indulge, go for it. If it involves burning 'em, I don't think it should be done publicly. However, I won't give you shit about it unless you're smoking in a non-designated area.Then I'd ask the person to kindly remove themselves, or put it out.

Stick with the pipe, it smells nicer.

I have to say all this 'passive smoking' is really bothering me. :mad:

I would've called her a **** and flicked the cigarette at her. When she looked back at me puzzled, I would've replied:
"See stupid... Don't you know that making a comment like that is even more dangerous to your health in the short run?"

I agree with you; it's your life, and that was very rude of her. But I hate it when people smoke in places that forbid smoking, or they smoke in confined areas where I have to be. So just don't do that and I would think most people wouldn't have a problem with it.

I have to say all this 'passive smoking' is really bothering me. :mad:

Good man, I smoke, but I don't inflict on others, unless most people are smoking, in which the non-smokers are under mass-assualt, and I dont have to feel guilty...:p

I myself enjoy Cigarettes, Cigars, and I have recently gotten into the habbit of smoking a pipe.

Now, that being said, Tobacco is one of the greatest pleasures of life to me. And when some people try to spoil my fun I naturally get indignant. I bring this up because earlier when I was at the mall with my boys I was enjoying a casual smoke outside the movie place when this girl comes out of nowhere and says to me, "I hope you enjoy your cancer sticks because you won't be able to when you die of lung cancer." So I say, "Gee, no shit? I thought they had Vitamin C in them!" I then proceded to blow smoke in her face. After some indignant yelling she stormed off to go kill Puppies or knock over kids sandcastles or something to that nature.

I hate people like this. Those ruffians behind those truth commercials need to be lynched for discrimination against smokers... </rant>

Let me start off by saying I don't smoke anymore. Here you were in public, outside, minding your own business and this bitch pulls a stunt like that? She is lucky you only blew smoke in her face, someone else might have taken her across their knee and spank her for being a rude, crude, bitch. Enjoy your smokes, life has to few pleasures as it is.

What retard would smoke anyway, I mean seriously, you know that your hurting yourself. its like suicide slow, why dont you just go ahead and dump rat poisen in your meatloaf and get it over with already. I don't even see why smokers have an arguement against ppl who think smoking is disgusting because your already wrong. You will get lung cancer and die. Good Job screwing yourself over. The End.

Well thanks for tht insight,it might kill me.:rolleyes:

I smoke for an image (pathetic, Iknow), and because it makes me feel one fuck lot better. I suffer from depression anyway, and smoking makes me feel better, why does it affect you if I smoke? Or do you seek to impose your opinions upon us all?

Good man, I smoke, but I don't inflict on others, unless most people are smoking, in which the non-smokers are under mass-assualt, and I dont have to feel guilty...:p

I respect smokers who don't smoke where most people are not smoking. If I go into a place where most people are smoking, as I sometimes do, I can always leave if I don't like it.

I just don't want to have to deal with the smoke that you guys create. I don't need to be affected by your careless descions. And no I am not imposing my opinon on you, I am stating it. Feel good? Well lets see how good you feel when you have emphysema from your smokes. Get back to me on that.

Let me start off by saying I don't smoke anymore. Here you were in public, outside, minding your own business and this bitch pulls a stunt like that? She is lucky you only blew smoke in her face, someone else might have taken her across their knee and spank her for being a rude, crude, bitch. Enjoy your smokes, life has to few pleasures as it is.

Who exactly would taken that woman across their knee and spanked her?

I just don't want to have to deal with the smoke that you guys create. I don't need to be affected by your careless descions. And no I am not imposing my opinon on you, I am stating it. Feel good? Well lets see how good you feel when you have emphysema from your smokes. Get back to me on that.

Its probable that, when I'm 60, medicine will be able to cure such afflictions, and I will have private health care anyway. Furthermore, the decision is not careless in the slightest, it is a calculated, willing risk I run for my happiness. The pertinent issue herein, however, is that the starter was smoking in open air, minding his own business, yet was berated for doing so. Fair? I think not.

Who exactly would taken that woman across their knee and spanked her?Not untill the third date, at least ;)

What retard would smoke anyway, I mean seriously, you know that your hurting yourself. its like suicide slow, why dont you just go ahead and dump rat poisen in your meatloaf and get it over with already. I don't even see why smokers have an arguement against ppl who think smoking is disgusting because your already wrong. You will get lung cancer and die. Good Job screwing yourself over. The End.
Meh. If you plan to go around playing Mommy for everybody who does unhealthy or risky things, you're going to have very little time to yourself. Remember, you'll need to nag everybody who eats fatty foods, drinks too much alcohol, turns up their earphones too loud, drives a car, wears ill-fitting or ill-conceived shoes...the list could go on forever.

I'm willing to bet that you yourself have some unhealthy habits. You probably like to focus on the unhealthy things you DON'T do, which is optimistic and probably good for your moods, but try to spare a thought for how annoying it would be if some self-righteous ass decided to interrupt your day by shrilling at you about your various sins. Would listening to some stranger's insults make you more likely to change?

Personally, I think people like you are 2/3rds of the reason why people still start smoking in this day and age, because you're so abbrasive they just want to light up to get under your skin. Hell, I've never been a smoker, but you made me want to go light up just out of spite! If your goal is to help build a world where nobody annoys you with their smoking, then self-interest alone should be enough to get you to chill out. :)

I just don't want to have to deal with the smoke that you guys create. I don't need to be affected by your careless descions. And no I am not imposing my opinon on you, I am stating it. Feel good? Well lets see how good you feel when you have emphysema from your smokes. Get back to me on that.
And I just don't want to have to deal with seeing the ugly clothes some people wear. I don't need to be affected by their careless decisions. Sure, bad clothes may not give me literal cancer, but I think they give me cancer of the mind by burning horrible images of capri pants deep into my memory. Of course, I'm not imposing my opinion on these fashion-challenged people, I'm just stating that it. We'll see how good they feel when they look back and cry over their disastrous fashion choices!

Seriously, folks, if you don't like having to deal with other humans' personal choices, then you shouldn't be going out in public. People do lots of things I don't like, but it's not my business to tell them how nasty it is for them to be eating deep-fried lard or drinking something that smells strong enough to make my eyes water. I'm sure everybody I pass on the street is making unhealthy choices, and many of them bug the hell out of me (like people who eat poorly, get fat, and then smush into the seat next to me on the train), but I haven't yet been elected Emperor of the World so I'm not about to try to run their lives.

I don't smoke. I'm not afraid of dying young. I'm amazed I made it this far. :p
I'm afraid of what I might end up living WITH.

25 years with emphysema or seven years of chemotherapy so I can last a few years longer and die broke and in pain doesn't really appeal to me much.

DOn't fear death. Fear a long, painful life.

Now that I've said that, It's MY life and nothing annoys me more than people who think they know how to live it better than me. If I choose to smoke and some busybody came up to me and said something like that, I'd probably react in much the same way. Unless I had a milkshake in my hand. Nothing says, "Fuck Off" like a hurled milkshake. :D

Its not really all too much about the smoke, its just that I don't understand why people would want to do something that intentionly hurts themselves, I mean hey If you eat Fatty foods you can exercise, If you drink too much someone else can drive you home, but smoking you can't do anything to help yourself, the damage is done. Why would you intentionally cause pain to yourself. You don't need to smoke. It doesnt say anywhere written down that you have to smoke. Because it portrays a "cool" image or it makes me feel good is not a legitimate reason if there even is. Besides for the fact that you screwed youreself iby hooking yourself on the nicotine, explain to me why you NEED to smoke.

Its not really all too much about the smoke, its just that I don't understand why people would want to do something that intentionly hurts themselves, I mean hey If you eat Fatty foods you can exercise, If you drink too much someone else can drive you home, but smoking you can't do anything to help yourself, the damage is done. Why would you intentionally cause pain to yourself. You don't need to smoke. It doesnt say anywhere written down that you have to smoke. Because it portrays a "cool" image or it makes me feel good is not a legitimate reason if there even is. Besides for the fact that you screwed youreself iby hooking yourself on the nicotine, explain to me why you NEED to smoke.
If, in a given day, you spend 15 minutes smoking cigs and 15 minutes riding in or driving a car, statistically you are more likely to be out-right killed by the automobile-riding than by the smoking. If you have 5 cigarettes per day and 5 drinks per day, depending on your individual physiology you may be doing more damage to your body with the drinking. Eating a very poor diet can do lasting damage to your internal organs no matter what kind of exercise you get.

This is one of the reasons I can't stand the current anti-smoking climate: it gives people this notion that as long as they aren't smoking they're fine and dandy. The reality is that smoking is unhealthy in the long run, but no more so than many other commonly accepted behaviors. I say this not to defend smoking (I repeat that I am not a smoker myself), but rather to discourage people from laboring under the misconception that smoking is automatically the worst personal health decision...there are plenty of dangers out there, and you'd probably be surprised how many you're exposing yourself to each day :).

As my boyfriend used to say when he was a smoker, "At least we smokers know what we're going to die of...the rest of you won't see it coming until it's too late!"

I completly agree with her only if you blew smoke in my face I would have thrown your pipe against the wall or stepped on whatever you were smoking.
Fight! Fight! :D

Well thanks for tht insight,it might kill me.:rolleyes:

I smoke for an image (pathetic, Iknow), and because it makes me feel one fuck lot better. I suffer from depression anyway, and smoking makes me feel better, why does it affect you if I smoke? Or do you seek to impose your opinions upon us all?

I don't think he/she realizes that people have a right to smoke or not smoke, drink or not drink, eat fast food or good food, etc. They want to tell you what you can or can not do but God forbid you ever tell them what they can or can not do. :eek:

I don't think he/she realizes that people have a right to smoke or not smoke, drink or not drink, eat fast food or good food, etc. They want to tell you what you can or can not do but God forbid you ever tell them what they can or can not do. :eek:

Quite true

anyone else here smoke lucky strikes?

Seriously, folks, if you don't like having to deal with other humans' personal choices, then you shouldn't be going out in public.

I understand there are some relatively nice caves for rent very cheap in Afghanistan and Pakistan.:D

I don't think he/she realizes that people have a right to smoke or not smoke, drink or not drink, eat fast food or good food, etc. They want to tell you what you can or can not do but God forbid you ever tell them what they can or can not do. :eek:For all the trouble it causes other people, you could argue people shouldn't have those rights.
There's a reason drinking and driving is forbidden; sure people have a right to drink, but not if it ends up getting people killed.
Sure people have the right to poison their arteries with cholesterol, but I hope they don't expect may to pay for their health care if they don't care.
And if people want to smoke, fine, as long as they don't poison the people around them.
Choices have consequences, and rights have obligations attached.

Quite true

anyone else here smoke lucky strikes?

I used to, I also smoked Camels without filters, and that's a real man's cigarette. :)

I used to, I also smoked Camels without filters, and that's a real man's cigarette. :)

Actually, try Gauloises... great fun for a new smoker:p

And if people want to smoke, fine, as long as they don't poison the people around them.
Choices have consequences, and rights have obligations attached.

You are correct, and you have the right to not associate with or walk away from people who smoke. Remember, the original poster was in a public place where he had a right to smoke and this woman walked up to him. She could just as easily walked away from him. Now if he were smoking in a no smoking area that is an entirely different story.

Actually, try Gauloises... great fun for a new smoker:p

Spanis Dukatos (sp?) or real Turkish cigaretts in Turkey. If a new smoker tried those they would never smoke again. :D

Both of my brothers smoke. I don't enjoy it, but I don't harass them about it. I've casually let them both know that I want them to stop, but I don't pester them every time they take out their lighter. I feel that people are entitled to make their own decisions about what they do to their bodies, no matter how retarded it is. The girl that came up to you was in the wrong, because your tobacco habits are none of her business. I mean, it's like going up to somebody in a Mexican resaraunt and going "I hope you like that horrible spicy burrito made by illegal immagrants!"

You are correct, and you have the right to not associate with or walk away from people who smoke. Remember, the original poster was in a public place where he had a right to smoke and this woman walked up to him. She could just as easily walked away from him. Now if he were smoking in a no smoking area that is an entirely different story.True, true..
And even in the latter case she could have asked politely.

I mean, it's like going up to somebody in a Mexican resaraunt and going "I hope you like that horrible spicy burrito made by illegal immagrants!"

:D I like that. Here have a couple of cookies. :fluffle: