NationStates Jolt Archive

What is wrong with people? According to the article, two teenagers were killed and one seriously injured while trying to flee the police. The fleeing teenagers tried to rob someone and when the police chased them, they climbed a fence into an electrical sub-station.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051029/wl_afp/franceriotpolice_051029032624;_ylt=Ao5gb4gWVh4OxTkXBQgOASaFOrgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCU l

So, why the hell are people rioting over this?

What is wrong with people? According to the article, two teenagers were killed and one seriously injured while trying to flee the police. The fleeing teenagers tried to rob someone and when the police chased them, they climbed a fence into an electrical sub-station.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051029/wl_afp/franceriotpolice_051029032624;_ylt=Ao5gb4gWVh4OxTkXBQgOASaFOrgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCU l

So, why the hell are people rioting over this?

They're French. Who knows why they do anything?

Also, have you not noticed how it's the in thing to hate active law enforcement?

So, why the hell are people rioting over this?
Because it doesn't matter what actually happened in this particular case.

If you have an entire community where the police are basically the bad guys, then a death of some of your side in a thing like this is plenty enought to call for revenge.

The very same thing happened in Sydney a few months ago when an Aboriginal kid died while fleeing the police. They had "racial riots" for a few days.

It's the police's fault to the extent that they haven't been able to (or maybe even tried) to have a positive relationship with the community. It was the same thing in a number of suburbs in Hamburg...the cops were the enemy, always had been. And they really weren't working on improving that image (sometimes I thought they were actually fueling it).

Because it doesn't matter what actually happened in this particular case.

If you have an entire community where the police are basically the bad guys, then a death of some of your side in a thing like this is plenty enought to call for revenge.

The very same thing happened in Sydney a few months ago when an Aboriginal kid died while fleeing the police. They had "racial riots" for a few days.

It's the police's fault to the extent that they haven't been able to (or maybe even tried) to have a positive relationship with the community. It was the same thing in a number of suburbs in Hamburg...the cops were the enemy, always had been. And they really weren't working on improving that image (sometimes I thought they were actually fueling it).

Interestingly enough, this version of the article seems to have lost earlier reference to racial overtones underpinning said violence.

Interestingly enough, this version of the article seems to have lost earlier reference to racial overtones underpinning said violence.

Please give a link to that source. Thank you.

Because it doesn't matter what actually happened in this particular case.

If you have an entire community where the police are basically the bad guys, then a death of some of your side in a thing like this is plenty enought to call for revenge.

I guess I have a hard time with understanding why people would riot and burn in their own community because criminals were fleeing the police. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that both my parents were police, my aunt worked for the FBI, my son is a policeman, and my sister works for the police department.

Please give a link to that source. Thank you.

For all intents and purposes, it was that article - I distinctly recollect the image of a burnt-out automobile in the upper right-hand sector of the page (apparently since edited) below the Yahoo heading. At any rate, the text made reference to the fact that many residents of the suburb were "immigrants, mostly from Africa", as well as a "solidarity march" of some sort.

A roughly equivalent bulletin may be accessed here (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-10-29T181340Z_01_SPI940091_RTRUKOC_0_UK-FRANCE-RIOTS.xml&archived=False).

For all intents and purposes, it was that article - I distinctly recollect the image of a burnt-out automobile in the upper right-hand sector of the page (apparently since edited) below the Yahoo heading. At any rate, the text made reference to the fact that many residents of the suburb were "immigrants, mostly from Africa", as well as a "solidarity march" of some sort.

A roughly equivalent bulletin may be accessed here (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-10-29T181340Z_01_SPI940091_RTRUKOC_0_UK-FRANCE-RIOTS.xml&archived=False).

Neither the article I provided the link to nor the article you provided the link to mentioned anything about race. So, why are you saying it was related to race?

Neither the article I provided the link to nor the article you provided the link to mentioned anything about race. So, why are you saying it was related to race?
http://www.boston.com/yourlife/health/other/articles/2005/08/05/muslim_themed_beurger_king_opens/
...The bright and colorful eatery was launched in July in an eastern Paris suburb crowded with immigrants and dilapidated housing projects. Its name plays on the French word "Beur," meaning a second-generation North African living in France.

The menu at Beurger King Muslim, or BKM, is standard fast-food fare: burgers, fries, sundaes and doughnuts, and prices are comparable to those at major chains. But the beef and chicken burgers are halal -- meaning made with meat slaughtered according to Islamic dietary laws....

That's the kind of place this suburb is. There's dozens of them all over Europe, and believe me, for many people who live there race becomes a factor very quickly (whether justified or not).

Neither the article I provided the link to nor the article you provided the link to mentioned anything about race. So, why are you saying it was related to race?
The big three, AP, AFP, and Reuters have all been known to edit articles online if they judge the originals too harsh without mentioning it.