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Just regarding the various threads right now about Communists on NS, and how it may have to do with political views, but also for any other purpose you can think of, I'm starting a poll for the age distribution on NS.

This is an utterly pointless poll. And why the hell can't I be "Myrth to Melkor" years old? Well?

This is an utterly pointless poll. And why the hell can't I be "Myrth to Melkor" years old? Well?

There has never been and there will never be any point in any poll, any doll, or any scroll in the world, neither anything that has a -oll in the end. To be accurate, nothing in the Whole Wide World has any point whatsoever.

There should be a Myrth to Melkor-age though, you're right about that, but also "sick of everything"-years old-option.

62 and getting younger every day. :D

This is an utterly pointless poll. And why the hell can't I be "Myrth to Melkor" years old? Well?
Why? People said the high number of Communists here has something to do with so many of the people here being rebellious Teenagers.
That's what I want to confirm.

And adding a Myrth Option to this...that would be pointless!

i'm not sure 15-20 is a very helpful category... you change so much in those years....

i'm not sure 15-20 is a very helpful category... you change so much in those years....
You reckon?
Hmmmm...you're probably right. It's a pain that you can't add extra options after the poll started.

15 to 20 or 20 to 25... hmm which to choose, which to choose?
i went for the latter seeing how i'm the other side of 20-and-a-half

i went for the latter seeing how i'm the other side of 20-and-a-half
Indeed, your 20th birthday is 20 years after your day of birth - thus you are over 20 years old.

Why? People said the high number of Communists here has something to do with so many of the people here being rebellious Teenagers.
That's what I want to confirm.

yes, but if you don't know who is who, it's invalid. Just because, say, half the people are communist and half are teenagers doesn't mean that all teenagers are communists.

And adding a Myrth Option to this...that would be pointless!

So? I still want to vote for it.

Tying Communism/Socialism/even radical leftism or even any rebellious characteristics to young people isn't very accurate. I know some older people that are Socialist. And the majority of my school is filled with right-wing nuts. In fact, I only know a select few that have leftist ideals in my school.

I believe the Socialist canidate for the Presidency here in the US was the oldest of the canidates.

yes, but if you don't know who is who, it's invalid.
It's just because people have been complaining about the general climate on here.

Just because, say, half the people are communist and half are teenagers doesn't mean that all teenagers are communists.
Obviously not, but again that's not what I'm after.
You can also use this information for many other things...like see whether graphic pictures are really that much of a problem...or how to design the next NS Election Campaign.

Indeed, your 20th birthday is 20 years after your day of birth - thus you are over 20 years old.
but i could also have been '15 to 20', because i am, as you say, 20. ;)

i'm just being pedantic for no reason and i know there's other ways of looking at it - thats just how i saw it at first. so, no point replying here cos i'm off to sleep anyway :P

I'm the only one in my bracket? Yike!

Tying Communism/Socialism/even radical leftism or even any rebellious characteristics to young people isn't very accurate. I know some older people that are Socialist. And the majority of my school is filled with right-wing nuts. In fact, I only know a select few that have leftist ideals in my school.
Ridiculous. The tendancy for one to grow more conservative as he ages is well-documented. Many of today's neoconservative leaders were socialists in their youth. Old people complaining about 'young hippies' is not a recent phenomenon [albeit the term 'hippy' is]. You may know some older Socialists: I've definately seen my share of them too, but the point of the generalization is that a higher percentage of young people are socialists/leftists than their 30something counterparts, on aggregate. Just because you "know some older people that are socialist" doesn't invalidate this perception.

Also, the political tendancies of your school might be influenced by your location, local income, and so on. Again, you can't just throw these ideas out the window because you've been exposed to a small sample of the population that seems to disprove these assumptions you're challenging.

There is no question that life tends to make one more conservative. Certainly in the financial sense. Reality sets in when you examine your first pay stub or start your own business. I'm 51 and once thought there were some clever quick fixes for what ails the world.

There is no question that life tends to make one more conservative. Certainly in the financial sense. Reality sets in when you examine your first pay stub or start your own business. I'm 51 and once thought there were some clever quick fixes for what ails the world.

There are: all called alcohol;)

I'm 19.

62 and getting younger every day. :D

When you die, it will certainly be interesting, to say the least.

"No! I'm not going in there! No! Argh! Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!" *slurp*


There is no question that life tends to make one more conservative. Certainly in the financial sense. Reality sets in when you examine your first pay stub or start your own business. I'm 51 and once thought there were some clever quick fixes for what ails the world.

Well...I've become more left-wing since i've realised what the working world is really like.

"No! I'm not going in there! No! Argh! Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!" *slurp*


Oh God **vomits in disgust**

Lucky that disgust was there or I would have really messed up the carpet.

Oh God **vomits in disgust**

Lucky that disgust was there or I would have really messed up the carpet.
*sigh*


I'm ashamed to admit I actually laughed at that. Then my roommate gave me an odd look, so I told him what I was laughing at, and he gave me an even more odd look.

Would these be better categories?

Under 16
16-17
18-19
20-25
26-30
30-39
40-49
50-59
Over 60

19, currently. Just turned Sept. 14th.

ima be 18 soon

Category: 10-15
Real Age: 12
I'ma be 13 on May 3rd.

I have to say, these results explain a lot.

I have to say, these results explain a lot.

Surely you're in the most popular age bracket?

EDIT: Oh, I see. You're saying that explains the socialism/liberalism/etc. Carry on.

I have to say, these results explain a lot.

I'm just glad there's no one under 10 here. It wouldn't be appropriate.

Oh wow...
I'm really old compared to you guys!
Thirty-five...
Still walking without a kane.
Can remember black and white television.
Cold war, Biafra, communist terrorists in Italy and Germany (Red Brigades and RAF), Northern Ireland was one big mess,...
Just the good old days, y'know :rolleyes:

19, my darlings.

Question! Shouldn't the poll options be more like '15-20; 21-25' rather than '15-20'20-25'? Or is the border age range forced to split it up by how many months into their age they are?

At least I didn't have to consider that when voting.

52

15

Why? People said the high number of Communists here has something to do with so many of the people here being rebellious Teenagers.
That's what I want to confirm.
You have confirmed that so far, right now more than half of the answers are below 20, which was a surprise to me. That pretty much explains why there are so many communists here. :p

You have confirmed that so far, right now more than half of the answers are below 20, which was a surprise to me. That pretty much explains why there are so many communists here. :p
Yeah, but half of the answers being under twenty doesn't have an identified correlation to being a Communist. Furthermore, Communism doesn't have ANYTHING to do with teenage rebellion. Nipple rings are teenage rebellion. Communism is an intellectual expansion of political and economic ideals.

That said, I'm "under twenty" and not Red.....

Simonist']Yeah, but half of the answers being under twenty doesn't have an identified correlation to being a Communist. Furthermore, Communism doesn't have ANYTHING to do with teenage rebellion. Nipple rings are teenage rebellion. Communism is an intellectual expansion of political and economic ideals.

That said, I'm "under twenty" and not Red.....
I'd say that there is a correlation rather than a cause/effect relation. But my hint is that these two factors (youngness/radicalness) are closely related. In my country I've seen a lot of communists turning socialist as they get more mature. Once we even had a conservative prime-minister who used to be a maoist in his youth. Now, going from communist to socialist seems pretty reasonable and mature to me, but going from maoist to conservative :eek: is kinda weird.

I'd say that there is a correlation rather than a cause/effect relation. But my hint is that these two factors (youngness/radicalness) are closely related. In my country I've seen a lot of communists turning socialist as they get more mature. Once we even had a conservative prime-minister who used to be a maoist in his youth. Now, going from communist to socialist seems pretty reasonable and mature to me, but going from maoist to conservative :eek: is kinda weird.
Weird. Socialism seems to be kind of the norm for my age group around here. Once people get old enough to be politically informed and actually get a view of the world (though I admit some of them just....don't....and end up piggybacking on the ideals and beliefs of the rest of us) they can well enough figure out what they think is best. Maybe it's the intense rich/poor divide that my county faces compared to other counties (as in we're incredibly rich and they're incredibly poor) that forces these views onto the kids, I don't know. But Communism amongst the informed youth is something I've not seen a lot of -- usually that's more prevalent in the 12-16 age range, in my experience.

Simonist']Weird. Socialism seems to be kind of the norm for my age group around here. Once people get old enough to be politically informed and actually get a view of the world (though I admit some of them just....don't....and end up piggybacking on the ideals and beliefs of the rest of us) they can well enough figure out what they think is best. Maybe it's the intense rich/poor divide that my county faces compared to other counties (as in we're incredibly rich and they're incredibly poor) that forces these views onto the kids, I don't know. But Communism amongst the informed youth is something I've not seen a lot of -- usually that's more prevalent in the 12-16 age range, in my experience.
Same happens here in Portugal, but here there are also a lot of anarchist kids (some of them are already in their 20's :p ) Where are you from? If the rich/poor divide is very deep in your country then it's no surprise that there are a lot of communist or anarchist kids.

Same happens here in Portugal, but here there are also a lot of anarchist kids (some of them are already in their 20's :p ) Where are you from? If the rich/poor divide is very deep in your country then it's no surprise that there are a lot of communist or anarchist kids.
Actually just my region in the US. I could go off on our divide at the vacation home as well (even more tragic), but in my immediate area it's just....I don't know. The straight-up socialists look at the Red kids like "Bitch, please, we're purists" and the Reds think the socialists are just too snobby for their own good.

Personally, more because I've got some family in every economic bracket (though we happen to be in the upper part of my county's spectrum), I think I've got a more realistic view of society and the economy, so though I definitely hold to my ideals, I can safely not make so much of a fool of myself that peole automatically think "She's young and ignorant, she'll grow out of it".

Simonist']Actually just my region in the US. I could go off on our divide at the vacation home as well (even more tragic), but in my immediate area it's just....I don't know. The straight-up socialists look at the Red kids like "Bitch, please, we're purists" and the Reds think the socialists are just too snobby for their own good.

Personally, more because I've got some family in every economic bracket (though we happen to be in the upper part of my county's spectrum), I think I've got a more realistic view of society and the economy, so though I definitely hold to my ideals, I can safely not make so much of a fool of myself that peole automatically think "She's young and ignorant, she'll grow out of it".
I agree, holding to my ideals doesn't make me an immature rebel, actually it's the opposite ;)

Simonist']Weird. Socialism seems to be kind of the norm for my age group around here. Once people get old enough to be politically informed and actually get a view of the world (though I admit some of them just....don't....and end up piggybacking on the ideals and beliefs of the rest of us) they can well enough figure out what they think is best. Maybe it's the intense rich/poor divide that my county faces compared to other counties (as in we're incredibly rich and they're incredibly poor) that forces these views onto the kids, I don't know. But Communism amongst the informed youth is something I've not seen a lot of -- usually that's more prevalent in the 12-16 age range, in my experience.

Im 13 and the only libertarian communist in my school.

Ridiculous. The tendancy for one to grow more conservative as he ages is well-documented.

Gee, then what happened to me? I'm almost 37..lol

You reckon?
Hmmmm...you're probably right. It's a pain that you can't add extra options after the poll started.


HaHaHa...reminds me of that comedian that does the bit about how when you're young you can't wait to get older, counting your age in Halfs and such.

When you hit my age, you look for the choice with the decade at the LOW end.

And i dont' really get the opening post. Does he think that age and Communism have something to do with each other?