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"To acquire mind one must need mind--one loses it when one no longer needs it." -- Friedrich Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols

So...if one doesn't need one's mind, one loses it. The evidence for not needing one's mind is not using it. Nietzsche published Twilight in 1888. In 1889, he went crazy and spent his last ten years of life in a catatonic-like state. Could it be because most of what he writes in Twilight seems to be mindless thumbing-of-the-nose at the establishment?

Could it be because most of what he writes in Twilight seems to be mindless thumbing-of-the-nose at the establishment?

I thought he liked the Establishment's goals (power, control, etc.) but believed they lacked balls and were too soft. I always heard that he went crazy due to syphilis or something.

I always heard that he went crazy due to syphilis or something.

It was either that, or excessive mental masturbation.

I thought he liked the Establishment's goals (power, control, etc.) but believed they lacked balls and were too soft. I always heard that he went crazy due to syphilis or something.
He certainly died of syphilis, and that doesn't do a lot for your mind, it's true.

He was a very sickly man and constantly suffering - would probably at least make him more likely to go mad.

As much as I hate Nietzche's philosophy, I can't help feeling sorry for him. He had a tough life. Especially since he's being associated with Nazism when really that was his sisters doing - he wasn't anti semitic himself.

I recall reading that during the final years of his life, despite being unable to carry on a conversation or communicate to any degree, he became a masterful piano player.

I recall reading that during the final years of his life, despite being unable to carry on a conversation or communicate to any degree, he became a masterful piano player.
If his fingering was masterful, maybe Sierra is onto something, here.

You know why he went crazy?

He couldn't deal with so many people pronouncing his name wrong!

If his fingering was masterful, maybe Sierra is onto something, here.

Hahahaha.

Take heed kids; not only will it make you go blind, but you'll get holes in your brain and drool all day. But you'll be good at the piano.

Hahahaha.

Take heed kids; not only will it make you go blind, but you'll get holes in your brain and drool all day. But you'll be good at the piano.
I am reminded of David Helfgott.

I am reminded of David Helfgott.

Heh, yeah.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone did a study of the professions with the biggest proportion of mental illness and musicians came out somewhere on top. I know a guy who is a guitar genius, but I have suspicions that he's schizophrenic, or something.

Heh, yeah.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone did a study of the professions with the biggest proportion of mental illness and musicians came out somewhere on top. I know a guy who is a guitar genius, but I have suspicions that he's schizophrenic, or something.
I think psychiatrists do quite well for that.
Bringing your work home, presumably.

I think psychiatrists do quite well for that.
Bringing your work home, presumably.

Yeah.

Mortuary workers are probably up there. Lighthouse watchmen...hmm...

Sex shop workers...

You could make a pretty interesting list.

Yeah.

Mortuary workers are probably up there. Lighthouse watchmen...hmm...

Sex shop workers...

You could make a pretty interesting list.
It'd be worth reading, I'd imagine.
Why sex shop workers, particularly?

It'd be worth reading, I'd imagine.
Why sex shop workers, particularly?

If you have to ask, you've never been in a sex shop. :p

A good point well made.
I'm not sure they're in worse shape than the staff in comics shops, though.

Olara']"To acquire mind one must need mind--one loses it when one no longer needs it." -- Friedrich Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols

So...if one doesn't need one's mind, one loses it. The evidence for not needing one's mind is not using it. Nietzsche published Twilight in 1888. In 1889, he went crazy and spent his last ten years of life in a catatonic-like state. Could it be because most of what he writes in Twilight seems to be mindless thumbing-of-the-nose at the establishment?

Nietzsche went crazy because somebody kept filling his socks with custard. :p

A good point well made.
I'm not sure they're in worse shape than the staff in comics shops, though.

Heheheheh. Comic book guy from the Simpsons rules.

Nietzsche went crazy because somebody kept filling his socks with custard. :p

I can assure you that that wasn't custard. It may have looked like custard after being left out in the sun for several hours, but it was not.

I can assure you that that wasn't custard. It may have looked like custard after being left out in the sun for several hours, but it was not.

:confused: It tasted like custard. :confused:

P.S. Okay, I just grossed myself out. :p

I can assure you that that wasn't custard. It may have looked like custard after being left out in the sun for several hours, but it was not.
Interestingly enough, my Western Civ TA, the one for whom I'm studying Twilight, informed us today that Stephen Hawking's wife leaves him out in the sun with his chair unplugged when he doesn't do what she wants. I don't know the validity of that, and my TA's kinda crazy, but I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when he said that.

:confused: It tasted like custard. :confused:

P.S. Okay, I just grossed myself out. :p

:D

Olara']Interestingly enough, my Western Civ TA, the one for whom I'm studying Twilight, informed us today that Stephen Hawking's wife leaves him out in the sun with his chair unplugged when he doesn't do what she wants. I don't know the validity of that, and my TA's kinda crazy, but I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when he said that.

How the hell does Stephen Hawking misbehave?!? Chase the pets?

Olara']Interestingly enough, my Western Civ TA, the one for whom I'm studying Twilight, informed us today that Stephen Hawking's wife leaves him out in the sun with his chair unplugged when he doesn't do what she wants. I don't know the validity of that, and my TA's kinda crazy, but I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when he said that.
Yeah, i've heard about that before.

Google it, it seems she's also pissed off about him appearing on the Simpsons. I wonder if he got pushed down a flight of stairs for that. *winces*

How the hell does Stephen Hawking misbehave?!? Chase the pets?

LOL

"Look. At. Me. I'm. Michael. Schumacher. Vroom."

"THATS IT YOU CRIPPLED BASTARD! YOURE GOING TO THE SKATE PARK!"

How the hell does Stephen Hawking misbehave?!? Chase the pets?
He revs his chair up and down while shouting "Exterminate!"
It gets old after five minutes or so...

Olara']"To acquire mind one must need mind--one loses it when one no longer needs it." -- Friedrich Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols

Why does this immediately make me think of Dan Quayle? :p

He certainly died of syphilis, and that doesn't do a lot for your mind, it's true.

That is a lie promoted by his enemies!

I always liked Nietzche, didnt have too many girlfriends did he?

I always liked Nietzche, didnt have too many girlfriends did he?

Why? He's like really sociopathic and stuff, obsessed with power.

Why? He's like really sociopathic and stuff, obsessed with power.
Exactly.. Far too obsessed with power.

He attempted to rid himself of the market, but failed.

Why? He's like really sociopathic and stuff, obsessed with power.
Letila, I suggest that you pick up something by Nietzsche and read it. It's quite obvious that you've never done so.