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Are "loose" versions of Creationism/ID and the Big Bang/Evolution mutually exclusive?

Super-power
27-10-2005, 23:28
I do not believe (at least on a "loose" interpretation of these concepts) that they are mutually exclusive...here is a possible theory that attempts to include everything in it:

God (or whichever divinities you like) created the universe through the Big Bang, as well as created the physical laws that our universe operates on. Then He (for the most part) sat back and watched life (including but not limited to on earth) unfold.

If I can make references to anything like this that already exists, it's known as the "Clockmaker Theory." Discuss!
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
27-10-2005, 23:35
There really is nothing to discuss. Maybe God did it, maybe he didn't.
However, there is no proof that you can argue in either ddirection if you genuinely believe, as a rather erudite College student once said:
"God has no direct influence on daily life, but just watches like a movie, eating his candy and munching his popcorn"
UnitarianUniversalists
28-10-2005, 00:02
No arguements, jives well with personal belief, but I would add that God is present in people who seek liberation or do kindness.

So I guess I believe God acts on a personal (spiritual) level, but not physical one.

It's pretty well known that there are no fundamental disagreements between science and belief in God. Its only the fundamentalists on both sides who insist otherwise. Science deals with the physical world, making observations, expereriments and gradually shrinking the error bars, and it's very good at it. However, it can't answer a whole host of very important questions like "What does it mean to live a good life?" or even, "What is this thing, these atoms with curiosity, that looks at itself and wonders why it wonders?" Religion does this, though (to be honest) not always with the same efficiency as science does it's job. The most important thing in both science and religion is humility, we don't know all the answers and we get into trouble when people prettend they do.
Ashmoria
28-10-2005, 00:29
I do not believe (at least on a "loose" interpretation of these concepts) that they are mutually exclusive...here is a possible theory that attempts to include everything in it:

God (or whichever divinities you like) created the universe through the Big Bang, as well as created the physical laws that our universe operates on. Then He (for the most part) sat back and watched life (including but not limited to on earth) unfold.

If I can make references to anything like this that already exists, it's known as the "Clockmaker Theory." Discuss!
sure

as long as you dont mind that the "god" part isnt scientific or that the clockmaker part isnt bilbical. its FINE.
Sumamba Buwhan
28-10-2005, 00:30
"God has no direct influence on daily life, but just watches like a movie, eating his candy and munching his popcorn"

Do you think God likes Ju Ju Bees? Probably the only being in existence that can actually chew those mf'ers and not break a tooth