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Keynes was an Apologist for Stalin

Lewrockwellia
27-10-2005, 18:00
Keynes and the Reds
by Ralph Raico


The third and final volume of Robert Skidelsky's celebrated Keynes biography, John Maynard Keynes: Fighting for Britain, 1937-1946 (New York: Viking Press, 2001) has just been published, to rave reviews. Like its predecessors, this volume makes no mention of Keynes's uncritical praise of Stalinist Russia in 1936, although I brought it to Professor Skidelsky's attention in a letter to which he graciously replied.

It is now clear that he refuses to confront these shameful comments of his hero. So, for all practical purposes, Keynes's fawning words on Stalinism have been thrown down an Orwellian memory hole, rarely if ever to reappear in the literature.

The following is slightly adapted from an article of mine that appeared in The Free Market in April 1997. A much-expanded version comprises a chapter of my forthcoming book, Classical Liberalism: Historical Essays in Political Economy, from Routledge.

It is the widespread view in academia that John Maynard Keynes was a model classical liberal in the tradition of Locke, Jefferson, and Tocqueville.

Like these men, it is commonly held, Keynes was a sincere, indeed, exemplary, believer in the free society. If he differed from the classical liberals in some obvious and important ways, it was simply because he tried to update the essential liberal idea to suit the economic conditions of a new age.

But if Keynes was such a model champion of the free society, how can we account for his peculiar comments, in 1933, endorsing, though with reservations, the social "experiments" that were going on at the time in Italy, Germany, and Russia? And what about his strange introduction to the 1936 German translation of General Theory, where he writes that his approach to economic policy is much better suited to a totalitarian state such as that run by the Nazis than, for instance, to Britain?

Keynes's defenders try to minimize the significance of these statements, exploiting certain ambiguities. But none of them, to my knowledge, has ever bothered to confront a quite unambiguous pronouncement by Keynes. It was included in a brief radio talk he delivered for the BBC in June 1936, in the "Books and Authors" series, and can be found in volume 28 of his Collected Writings, pp. 333-34.

In this talk, the only book that Keynes deals with at any length is the recently published massive tome by Sidney and Beatrice Webb, Soviet Communism. (The first edition carried the subtitle, A New Civilisation?; in later editions, the question mark was dropped.)

As leaders of the Fabian Society, the Webbs had worked for decades to bring about a socialist Britain. In the 1930s, they turned into enthusiastic propagandists for the new regime in Communist Russia--in Beatrice's words, they had "fallen in love with Soviet Communism." (What she called "love," their nephew-by-marriage, Malcolm Muggeridge, labeled "besotted adulation.")

During their three-week visit to Russia, where, Sidney boasted, they were treated like "a new type of royalty," the Soviet authorities supplied them with the facts and figures for their book. The Communists were well satisfied with the final result. In Russia itself, Soviet Communism was translated, published, and promoted by the regime; as Beatrice declared: "Sidney and I have become icons in the Soviet Union."

Ever since it first appeared, Soviet Communism has been seen as the prime example of the aid and comfort lavished by literary fellow travelers on the Stalinist terror-state. If Keynes were a liberal and a lover of the free society, one would expect his review to be a scathing denunciation. But the opposite is the case.

In his talk, Keynes proclaims Soviet Communism to be a book "which every serious citizen will do well to look into.

Until recently events in Russia were moving too fast and the gap between paper professions and actual achievements was too wide for a proper account to be possible. But the new system is now sufficiently crystallized to be reviewed. The result is impressive. The Russian innovators have passed, not only from the revolutionary stage, but also from the doctrinaire stage.

There is little or nothing left which bears any special relation to Marx and Marxism as distinguished from other systems of socialism. They are engaged in the vast administrative task of making a completely new set of social and economic institutions work smoothly and successfully over a territory so extensive that it covers one-sixth of the land surface of the world. Methods are still changing rapidly in response to experience. The largest scale empiricism and experimentalism which has ever been attempted by disinterested administrators is in operation. Meanwhile the Webbs have enabled us to see the direction in which things appear to be moving and how far they have got.

Britain, Keynes feels, has much to learn from the Webbs' work:

It leaves me with a strong desire and hope that we in this country may discover how to combine an unlimited readiness to experiment with changes in political and economic methods and institutions, whilst preserving traditionalism and a sort of careful conservatism, thrifty of everything which has human experience behind it, in every branch of feeling and of action.

Note, incidentally, the backtracking and studied inconsistency typical of much of Keynes's social philosophizing--an "unlimited readiness to experiment" is to be combined with "traditionalism" and "careful conservatism."

By 1936 no one had to depend on the Webbs' deceitful propaganda for information on the Stalinist system. Eugene Lyons, William Henry Chamberlin, Malcolm Muggeridge himself, and others had revealed the grim truth about the charnel-house presided over by Keynes's "disinterested administrators."

Anyone willing to listen could learn the facts regarding the terror-famine of the early 1930s, the vast system of slave-labor camps, and the near-universal misery that followed on the abolition of private property. For those not blinded by "love," it was not hard to discern that Stalin was erecting the model killer-state of the twentieth century.

In Keynes's remarks, and in the lack of any concern about them among his devotees, we find, once again, the bizarre double standard that Joseph Sobran keeps pointing out. If a famous writer had said anything similar about Nazi Germany in 1936, his name would reek to this day. Yet as evil as the Nazis were to become, in 1936, their victims amounted to a small fraction of the victims of Communism.

What explains Keynes's praise for the Webbs' book and the Soviet system? There is little doubt that the major reason is the feeling he shared with the two Fabian leaders: a deep-seated hatred of profit-seeking and money-making. According to their friend and fellow Fabian, Margaret Cole, it was in a moral and spiritual sense that the Webbs looked on Soviet Russia as "the hope of the world." For them, "most exciting" of all was the role of the Communist Party, which, Beatrice held, was a "religious order," engaged in creating a "Communist Conscience."

As early as 1932, Beatrice announced: "It is because I believe that the day has arrived for the changeover from egotism to altruism--as the mainspring of human life--that I am a Communist." In the chapter on "In Place of Profit" in Soviet Communism, the Webbs rave over the replacement of monetary incentives by the rituals of "shaming the sinner" and Communist self-criticism.

Up to the very end of her life, in 1943, Beatrice was still lauding the Soviet Union for "its multiform democracy, its sex, class, and racial equality, its planned production for community consumption, and above all its penalization of the profit-making motive."

As for Keynes, his animosity to the financial motivation of human action amounted to an obsession. He viewed the striving for money "as the central ethical problem of modern society," and after his own earlier visit to Soviet Russia, he acclaimed the suppression of the monetary motive as a "tremendous innovation." For him, as for the Webbs, this was the essence of the "religious" element they detected and admired in Communism.

A notable feature of Keynes's praise of the Soviet system is its total lack of any economic analysis. Keynes appears blithely unaware that there might exist a problem of rational economic calculation under socialism, as had been outlined a year earlier in a volume edited by F. A. Hayek, Collectivist Economic Planning, which featured the seminal 1920 essay by Ludwig von Mises, "Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth (http://www.mises.org/econcalc.asp)."

Economists had been debating this question for years. Yet all that concerns Keynes is the excitement of the great experiment, the awe-inspiring scope of the social changes occurring in Soviet Russia under the direction of those "disinterested administrators."

This brings to mind Karl Brunner's comment on Keynes's notions of social reform: "One would hardly guess from the material of the essays that a social scientist, even economist, had written [them]. Any social dreamer of the intelligentsia could have produced them. Crucial questions are never faced or explored."

No, Keynes was no "model liberal," but rather a statist and an occasional apologist for the century's most ruthless regimes. His very peculiar comments, especially on Soviet Russia, when added to his state-enhancing economic theory and his state-dominated utopian vision, should give pause to those who so unhesitatingly enlist him in the liberal ranks. Viewing Keynes as perhaps "the model liberal of the twentieth century" can only render an indispensable historical concept incoherent.


Source (http://www.mises.org/story/891)


As Raico reveals, Keynes, whose ideas influenced the implementation (by FDR) of our fascist economic system, was, in addition to Richard Nixon's hero and an unrepentant pedophile, a steadfast apologist for Stalin.
Nikitas
27-10-2005, 18:09
So... Keynes made a few comments of praise on the rapid construction of the Soviet administrative state and suddenly he is an apologist for Stalin's terror regime?

Maybe I missed something here... did Keynes speak positively of Stalin? Were Stalin's crimes known at the time?

Oh sure, he visited the USSR, but it's not like they would take him on a tour of Siberia...

Editted to add:

And another thing I find this to be troubling:

But if Keynes was such a model champion of the free society, how can we account for his peculiar comments, in 1933, endorsing, though with reservations, the social "experiments" that were going on at the time in Italy, Germany, and Russia?

So, he made a few comments on what I take to be some kind of radio program about a book that he found insightful. He didn't write anything in praise of the USSR, he didn't lecture on it, are we going to gleam his opinions from a handful of unprepared statements?

Furthermore, what are these "reservations" that the author doesn't mention? Or, what's more interesting, is why aren't they mentioned?

You can paint the founding fathers as monarchists if you marginalize some "reservations."
Lewrockwellia
27-10-2005, 18:11
So... Keynes made a few comments of praise on the rapid construction of the Soviet administrative state and suddenly he is an apologist for Stalin's terror regime?

Maybe I missed something here... did Keynes speak positively of Stalin? Were Stalin's crimes known at the time?

Oh sure, he visited the USSR, but it's not like they would take him on a tour of Siberia...

Stalin's crimes were clearly visible to those who chose not to ignore them, like Walter Duranty (the New York Times reporter who won a Pulitzer Prize for covering up Stalin's atrocities).
Liskeinland
27-10-2005, 18:18
Stalin's crimes were clearly visible to those who chose not to ignore them, like Walter Duranty (the New York Times reporter who won a Pulitzer Prize for covering up Stalin's atrocities).
Won a Pulitzer Prize for… covering up?
Also, Stalin's programme DID help Russia survive the war. He balanced that by killing off his officers, of course…

And there was me thinking Keynes was the one who helped start the whole "progressive liberal" thing… helping the poor and all that. No, he's a Stalinist… that would explain why Labour set up the Gulags.
Nikitas
27-10-2005, 18:18
Stalin's crimes were clearly visible to those who chose not to ignore them, like Walter Duranty (the New York Times reporter who won a Pulitzer Prize for covering up Stalin's atrocities).

Fair enough. But what about the comments I just editted in?

It's one thing to say "I admire the Soviet Union and comrade Stalin."

And it's quite another thing to say "I admire the rapid organization of the Soviet Union, but I condemn Stalin's terror regime."
Lewrockwellia
27-10-2005, 18:24
Fair enough. But what about the comments I just editted in?

It's one thing to say "I admire the Soviet Union and comrade Stalin."

And it's quite another thing to say "I admire the rapid organization of the Soviet Union, but I condemn Stalin's terror regime."

But Keynes never did condemn Stalin's terror.
Sierra BTHP
27-10-2005, 18:27
But Keynes never did condemn Stalin's terror.
At this point it hardly matters. Keynes appears to be discredited as an economic theorist at this time. Anyone who tries to push the idea of deficit spending as a "good thing" in the US is liable to be unelected (part of Bush's unpopularity among Republicans).
Nikitas
27-10-2005, 18:34
But Keynes never did condemn Stalin's terror.

Yes, but does he specifically have to say such a thing explicitly?

Keynes probably sympathized with the USSR. And yes, his dislike of the profit motive probably led him to idolize the USSR. And honestly, any sympathy for that system is misplaced. Sympathy for the victims sure, but not for the criminals.

But still, "Apologist for Stalin" is a bit strong don't you think? Where did he deny that Stalin commited acts of terror? Or that it didn't matter that he had? Or that it was necessary/good that he had? What I'm really curious about are these "reservations" that Keynes had about the USSR, but that aren't mentioned in this article.

At this point it hardly matters. Keynes appears to be discredited as an economic theorist at this time. Anyone who tries to push the idea of deficit spending as a "good thing" in the US is liable to be unelected (part of Bush's unpopularity among Republicans).

Keynes and his students have contributed much more than deficit spending. A number of Keynesian ideas have been integrated into mainstream economics.
Sierra BTHP
27-10-2005, 18:39
Keynes and his students have contributed much more than deficit spending. A number of Keynesian ideas have been integrated into mainstream economics.

But he's largely remembered for the deficit spending, which has been discredited. You can't go around most economics departments today saying you're a Keynesian anymore.
Nikitas
27-10-2005, 18:44
But he's largely remembered for the deficit spending, which has been discredited. You can't go around most economics departments today saying you're a Keynesian anymore.

Well, I don't know about that (not doubting it, I just don't know).

In any case, one of his policy recomendations has been discredited. But I wouldn't say he has been discredited as a theorist and his work certainly endures. I'm sure a number of posters here don't like that, but nevertheless it does.
Argesia
27-10-2005, 19:42
But Keynes never did condemn Stalin's terror.
You probably never condemned rapists in Mauritius. Which means you must be agreeing with them.
Neu Leonstein
28-10-2005, 02:22
That is sooooo much bullshit.
I happen to be a great fan of Keynes, and you obviously completely misinterpreted the man.

1) "Statism" - The State is not the same as the Government. Never has been, never will be.
For Keynes the state included our culture, our traditions as well as private enterprises conducive to those - like the London Times.

2) "Totalitarian" - That does not mean, and never has meant, oppression. As an academic, Keynes would use the word with its actual meaning, not with what Anglo-American Individualists turned it into.

3) Fascism - Actually, the fascist appeal to culture, nostalgia and a "common good" does fit with a number of Keynes' ideas. That doesn't mean he's got anything to do with the perversions that followed.
Furthermore, in 1936, everyone around (including Churchill) thought Fascism was a pretty neat idea, and that the USSR was kicking butt.
Indeed, the only people who disagreed were the Austrians, which you were quoted there, and which were being made fun of by the entire planet until 30 or 40 years later.

The author of that article really has to go into what these words actually mean, and in what context they were spoken - rather than excuse his dislike for government involvement in the economy with amateurish mudslinging.
Neo Kervoskia
28-10-2005, 02:34
And this is where I depart you, Lewrockwellia.

There must be something in the air tonight, because I again agree with Leonstein. With the exception of being a big fan of Keynes and a few other bits.
Lacadaemon
28-10-2005, 02:37
:mad:

Keynes was a commie, just like his fellow travellers.
Neo Kervoskia
28-10-2005, 02:39
I wouldn't go so far as to call him a commie.
Ashmoria
28-10-2005, 03:13
Stalin's crimes were clearly visible to those who chose not to ignore them, like Walter Duranty (the New York Times reporter who won a Pulitzer Prize for covering up Stalin's atrocities).
im very confused about your use of duranty as an example. what is he an example OF?

when he accepted his pulitzer prize he referred to stalin as a great statesman.
Neu Leonstein
28-10-2005, 03:27
But he's largely remembered for the deficit spending, which has been discredited. You can't go around most economics departments today saying you're a Keynesian anymore.
Actually, there are a number of them in my faculty...

And quite frankly, deficit spending hasn't been discredited at all outside some weird schools in Chicago. As long as you do it over the cycle, there are no negatives associated with it.
You just have to be careful what you spend the money on, and crowding out is not a problem anymore.
Neo Kervoskia
28-10-2005, 03:29
Actually, there are a number of them in my faculty...
I would be surprised if you said otherwise.

I lean towards monetarism, but I was this close to becomming an Austrian. (That was before I took any economics.)
Neu Leonstein
28-10-2005, 03:36
I would be surprised if you said otherwise.
Well, everything needs to come from something else, right?
If I hadn't been a rabid leftist before I went to Uni, you could've thought I was brainwashed....instead they pulled me to the right.

I lean towards monetarism, but I was this close to becomming an Austrian. (That was before I took any economics.)
See, it's the same thing with Monetarism. It too has in many bits been discredited, but the useful ideas (ie MV=PY for the long run) have been taken aboard.
That way economics is a bit of everything, and no one is really ever wrong. Hell, they even took bits from Voodoo Economics!

Oh, and here's a nice site you might want to look at: http://www.paecon.net/
hehehe :D
Neo Kervoskia
28-10-2005, 03:45
See, it's the same thing with Monetarism. It too has in many bits been discredited, but the useful ideas (ie MV=PY for the long run) have been taken aboard.
I don't think Keynesianism is completely incorrect, it too can be quite useful.
Oh, and here's a nice site you might want to look at: http://www.paecon.net/
hehehe :D
:)