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US "drops" plans for nuke bunker buster.

Marrakech II
26-10-2005, 04:19
Well first off all I think is that they are dropping it off the media radar by making this announcement. I do think they have purpose in war. But I know that international pressure of not using is large. Anyway read and comment.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/25/bunker.buster.ap/index.html
Pepe Dominguez
26-10-2005, 04:21
Nah, we just outsourced it to Israel.. we send them the warheads and the other precursors, let them assemble the missiles, and buy them back at a cut rate, arming them against Iran in the process..
Neu Leonstein
26-10-2005, 11:01
Good. It looks mighty ridiculous to ask sovereign nations not to build nukes because of some treaty, while at the same time shitting all over it.

And besides, the world has enough nukes as is. Making nukes that are even more likely to be used isn't a prospect that I particularly enjoy. If the Israel thing is true though, then I'm decidedly less happy.
Laerod
26-10-2005, 11:04
Praise be. :)
Fass
26-10-2005, 11:04
That's too sane a decision for being one the US made. They're up to something. Oh, yes, they're up to something...

http://pics.livejournal.com/quelconque/pic/0007bxwq
Laerod
26-10-2005, 11:06
That picture... I've got the feeling you did something wrong, Fass...:D
Fass
26-10-2005, 11:11
That picture... I've got the feeling you did something wrong, Fass...:D

I try to be a little naughty for once and don't host it myself, and see what I get? Instant karmic retribution. Fuckers! Why don't they burn in hell?!
Harlesburg
26-10-2005, 12:17
That's too sane a decision for being one the US made. They're up to something. Oh, yes, they're up to something...

http://pics.livejournal.com/quelconque/pic/0007bxwq
Damn The Broccolli
Damn You and
Damn The Wright Brothers!
The odd one
26-10-2005, 13:06
big deal... so they bust the the bunkers with a normal bomb and then nuke the crap out of it. same outcome, it just looks to me like a way to down-play the whole question of america's 'nuclear might'.
Lacadaemon
26-10-2005, 13:19
Meh, it's the budget deficit starting to bite, it's happened before: Weapons that will never be used get cancelled. I am sure it will be back on the drawing board in a few years.
Laerod
26-10-2005, 13:26
Meh, it's the budget deficit starting to bite, it's happened before: Weapons that will never be used get cancelled. I am sure it will be back on the drawing board in a few years.The Davy Crockett hasn't been, but then again, there's a different reason for it not being used...
Boonytopia
26-10-2005, 13:39
The Davy Crockett hasn't been, but then again, there's a different reason for it not being used...

Davy Crockett? King of the wild frontier?
Lunatic Goofballs
26-10-2005, 13:49
Davy Crockett? King of the wild frontier?

The Davy Crockett is a short-ranged nuclear warhead fired from a modified mortar cannon. The operator is required to dig a ditch and cover himself with a lead blanket after launching to have a chance or surviving. :p

It never really caught on. Hehehe.


They should ask me. I have some ideas for busting some bunkers. One of the revolves around trained skunk squads. :)
OceanDrive2
26-10-2005, 14:04
The Davy Crockett is a short-ranged nuclear warhead fired from a modified mortar cannon. The operator is required to dig a ditch and cover himself with a lead blanket after launching to have a chance or surviving. :p

It never really caught on. Hehehe.


They should ask me. I have some ideas for busting some bunkers. One of the revolves around trained skunk squads. :)You MotthaFuker!!!

I am witting Congress..and the UN..to ban your specific kind of Biological Warfare.

:D :D :p :D
Ravenshrike
26-10-2005, 15:24
Now the question becomes, did they really abandon the research, or are they just going to come up with a conventional version and stick a nuclear warhead into it at final assembly?
Drunk commies deleted
26-10-2005, 15:27
Now the question becomes, did they really abandon the research, or are they just going to come up with a conventional version and stick a nuclear warhead into it at final assembly?
They already have a conventional version.
Ravenshrike
26-10-2005, 15:33
They already have a conventional version.


The Bush administration has abandoned research into a nuclear "bunker-buster" warhead, deciding instead to pursue a similar device using conventional weaponry, a key Republican senator said Tuesday.


Apparently they're designing a new one.
Laerod
26-10-2005, 15:36
Apparently they're designing a new one.With conventional weaponry. I think that means they're finding non-nuclear means to blow a bunker to pieces.
Ravenshrike
26-10-2005, 15:40
With conventional weaponry. I think that means they're finding non-nuclear means to blow a bunker to pieces.
Do you really think they couldn't design a major bomb like a bunker-buster and then be unable to modify the design to hold a nuclear warhead instead?
The South Islands
26-10-2005, 15:41
With conventional weaponry. I think that means they're finding non-nuclear means to blow a bunker to pieces.

Well, that bunker isn't going to blow up itself.
Strathdonia
26-10-2005, 15:44
Do you really think they couldn't design a major bomb like a bunker-buster and then be unable to modify the design to hold a nuclear warhead instead?

it would depend on the actual design of the weapon and how it cheives pentration, to be honest i don't thing you would be able to fit a truely worthwhile nclear weapon inside the casing of say a GBU-28 (current stop gap bunker buster) but then again it might well be totally possible if they intend to revisit the much larger bomb plan (size was in the 20,000-30,000lb region).
Drunk commies deleted
26-10-2005, 15:49
Do you really think they couldn't design a major bomb like a bunker-buster and then be unable to modify the design to hold a nuclear warhead instead?
I think they were looking for something that would drive into the ground deep enough to contain the fallout from a very small nuclear warhead. Conventional bunker busters don't go deep enough to do that.
Drunk commies deleted
26-10-2005, 15:50
Well, that bunker isn't going to blow up itself.
Considering the huge explosion a few months ago in N. Korea it just might.
Sierra BTHP
26-10-2005, 15:59
It might be better to spend money on these things:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/systems/atl.htm

because we need an ability to pick individual insurgents out of a crowd and turn them into smoking footprints and a greasy, sooty stain on the sidewalk without hitting anyone else.

There might be a dearth of bunkers in the future, compared to the number of insurgents.
Carnivorous Lickers
26-10-2005, 19:07
With conventional weaponry. I think that means they're finding non-nuclear means to blow a bunker to pieces.

Send a monkey in with a satchel charge. He would be trained to pull the pin and hand it to the first person he saw that was wearing a turban or smelled worse than he did himself.

foolproof.
Ravenshrike
26-10-2005, 22:37
Send a monkey in with a satchel charge. He would be trained to pull the pin and hand it to the first person he saw that was wearing a turban or smelled worse than he did himself.

foolproof.
I take it we shouldn't release these monkeys into certain parts of france or many of the eastern bloc countries then?