NationStates Jolt Archive

This is a list of comparing nations in there corruption rankings. A bit interesting. Check how your home nation fares.

http://www.transparency.org/cpi/2005/cpi2005_infocus.html

Number six. Not too shabby.

USA- 17th

We must strive to be 107th next time.

11? It'll do.

Number six. Not too shabby.

Why surprised? Corruption does not exist in Scandinavia.

Why surprised? Corruption does not exist in Scandinavia.

I expected better, but all were close in the top.

14...

Not too shabby.

I expected better, but all were close in the top.

Pretty much every corruption-perception index/list I've ever seen has shown Scandinavia to be corruption-free, or so close as to make no difference.

Canada - 14

damn Librals and the Sponcership scandal bring down our rank!

I expected better, but all were close in the top.
Iceland makes you look like America.

Iceland makes you look like America.

It's hard to be corrupt against your relatives, say the Icelanders. 300000 people on that small island. You do the math. :p

It's hard to be corrupt against your relatives, say the Icelanders. 300000 people on that small island. You do the math. :p
Sally: Mom, Billy hit me!
Billy: I didn't!
Mom: Quiet you two, or no dessert.

The Icelandic Civil War

man thoses Icelanders dont want nothing screeing up there stuff hell they even stoped a vollcano from destorying there harbor towns

If there were no Republican Party, we'd probably be 15th or 16th instead of 17th.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/gov_cor

So how do the Norwegians feel to be the most corrupt nation in Scandinavia? :p

Singapore at #5 surprised me at first, but I was assuming that repressive dictatorships are necessarily corrupt. Apparantly it isn't so.

No. 9. Note however, that that's only "corruption perceptions" and the figures appear to have been obtained by surveying citizens, not from any factual base of how corrupt that country is.

So how do the Norwegians feel to be the most corrupt nation in Scandinavia? :p

Singapore at #5 surprised me at first, but I was assuming that repressive dictatorships are necessarily corrupt. Apparantly it isn't so.

I wouldn't say it's a dictatorship. It's an authoritarian democracy. Granted, the same party has been in power since independence, but Japan isn't much better in that regard.

Canada - 14

damn Librals and the Sponcership scandal bring down our rank!
At least we're ranked 3 points higher than the US. ;)

yep our gov't wont steal as MUCH as them

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/gov_cor
Hmmm... this statistic is pretty accurate. :D

Portugal is 26th... Not as bad as I thought :)

yep our gov't wont steal as MUCH as them
Can't believe Canada made it to the 14th spot for the least corrupted despite Gomery and Dingwall (<--- big scandal?).

I guess its not THAT big of a scandal internatnaly wise

19, could be worse, was almost expecting it to be, in all fairness. Apparently, we are thought to have among the most corrupt politicians in the EU at the moment...

Sally: Mom, Billy hit me!
Billy: I didn't!
Mom: Quiet you two, or no dessert.

The Icelandic Civil War
Lol I showed that to Ingunn ... she loved it

No. 9. Note however, that that's only "corruption perceptions" and the figures appear to have been obtained by surveying citizens, not from any factual base of how corrupt that country is.
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I also posted a second link in this post. Check that, I believe they use a bit more factual data than asking the random muppet what they thought. Hope that helps.

The United Kingdom would be a lot less corrupt if we could get rid of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

This is a list of comparing nations in there corruption rankings. A bit interesting. Check how your home nation fares.

http://www.transparency.org/cpi/2005/cpi2005_infocus.html


And their results are proudly sponsored by...

TI gratefully acknowledges the generous contributions of the participants in the Global Corporations for Transparency International (GCTI) initiative:

- Anglo American
- Exxon
- General Electric
- Lafarge
- Merck
- Nexen
- Norsk Hydro
- SAP AG
- Shell International
- Sovereign Asset Management
- UBS



Companies participating in this initiative typically contribute 50,000 Euro per year to Transparency International.

I shouldn't really be surprised that the US is so low.
Just cynical about it.

The US is the 'other evil empire' and did not stop with the end
of the Soviet Union. Anything they did, we did worse.
Overthrowing other people's gov'ts, assassinations,
arming death squads - i mean terrorists - no really - terrorists,
subverting peoples elections, then forming the NED to do above
ground what the CIA used to do in secret. It's still funnelling money
into other people's elections and it's still wrong. What, we don't
think other people can run their own elections? How stuck-up arrogant
supremecist are we?

Gov't here in US is owned by the corporations - is the corporations.
They change the laws to let corporations be above the law.

Oh, but that's "business as usual" so it's not 'corruption'.

And their results are proudly sponsored by...

TI gratefully acknowledges the generous contributions of the participants in the Global Corporations for Transparency International (GCTI) initiative:

- Anglo American
- Exxon
- General Electric
- Lafarge
- Merck
- Nexen
- Norsk Hydro
- SAP AG
- Shell International
- Sovereign Asset Management
- UBS

Companies participating in this initiative typically contribute 50,000 Euro per year to Transparency International.



hahahahaha
Thanks for pointing that out Liverbreath.
Shell is b-Azz corrupt. Look up Shell, Nigeria, & Ken Saro Wiwa

GE? Exxon? hahaha
Merck?

for more on our 'good' corporate 'citizens' attempting to end corruption:

Multinational Monitor
http://multinationalmonitor.org/monitor.html

CorpWatch
http://www.corpwatch.org/

India is on 88. I think we imprived a teeny tiny bit over last year. Looooong way to go.

Bangladesh is the leader. For the fifth consecutive time. A record of sorts. Coupled with rising islamism, that country is going to be in my radar for all the wrong reasons in the coming years.

Bangladesh is the leader. For the fifth consecutive time. A record of sorts. that country is going to be in my radar for all the wrong reasons in the coming years.


What's up with Bangladesh?

hahahahaha
Thanks for pointing that out Liverbreath.
Shell is b-Azz corrupt. Look up Shell, Nigeria, & Ken Saro Wiwa

GE? Exxon? hahaha
Merck?

So sad thought that people will acutally buy into things like this and assign it proven fact status, without even thinking about where the money trail leads and what the real agenda is.

2nd equal, bitches.


Any Icelanders here for me to be bummed out by?

But this is corruption perception, not corrution. Does anyone know how this index correlates with the percentage of children who go to government schools?

Oman's doing pretty good....

Anyhow, the race always seems to be between the Finns and the Icelanders.

I think the US should be a tad higher on all these polls, if anyone agrees with me that rampant and worthless pork-barreling is corruption.

9th, not bad. :)

Bugger, beaten by those pesky Kiwis! ;)

The United Kingdom would be a lot less corrupt if we could get rid of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

...and more importantly, politicians.

Problem is though that apparently
a) It's a "perception" index - some people may think their country is nicer than it really is. But that goes for everyone.
b) They also ask questions about "red tape". And everyone looooves to complain about red tape.

Maybe they could improve the index a little.

That being said, Germany is ok at 16 - but great it ain't.

Problem is though that apparently
a) It's a "perception" index - some people may think their country is nicer than it really is. But that goes for everyone.
b) They also ask questions about "red tape". And everyone looooves to complain about red tape.

Maybe they could improve the index a little.

That being said, Germany is ok at 16 - but great it ain't.

...and it even dropped down from 15 the last time...go figure, next Bangladesh is coming.

The problem with transparency international is that itself is not transparent...they had a publication that all participants in the german medical system are corrupt, corruption running rampant through german hospitals...imagine!

Speaking for myself...yes, but all >irony warning<

I also posted a second link in this post. Check that, I believe they use a bit more factual data than asking the random muppet what they thought. Hope that helps.

Ta. From what I see though, they're not a lot different.

Considering how many people have been arrested or have resigned for corruption as of late, I'm surprised Japan isn't lower than 21.

CPI Score relates to perceptions of the degree of corruption as seen by business people and country analysts and ranges between 10 (highly clean) and 0 (highly corrupt).
Business people? Half the time, they're the ones lurking behind the corruption. Asking the corporate state's corporations if the state is corrupt won't get you an accurate result...

At least we're ranked 3 points higher than the US. ;)
And for Canadians that's enough. :)

No. 9. Note however, that that's only "corruption perceptions" and the figures appear to have been obtained by surveying citizens, not from any factual base of how corrupt that country is.



I wouldn't say it's a dictatorship. It's an authoritarian democracy. Granted, the same party has been in power since independence, but Japan isn't much better in that regard.

So? Unless I'm mistaken, Botswana has had the same party in power since independence, and it's a democratic state.

New Zealand: 2nd equal. Gloat gloat gloat.
:p
We're just too nice to be dishonest. It's our cross to bear. sigh.

So? Unless I'm mistaken, Botswana has had the same party in power since independence, and it's a democratic state.

That's my point, really.

That's my point, really.

Ah, okay. I misunderstood.

We're number 85, together with Mongolia and the Dominican Republic. Hm. Should I be feeling patriotic?

(BTW, Americans: our nation's gvt. is a proud supporter of your administration. Can you see why now?)

Yey! The Dutch are 11th!
I'll guess it took us a lot of pot to get us that high.
teehee :)

11? It'll do.
Did you look up the Republic, or the UK? :)