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I don't know Mods are made here, but would anyone else like Mod elections?

No.

Absolutely not.

There's no point in them, really.

Not even if you elected me.

I don't know Mods are made here,

Oh, I do. You can too! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=438230)

but would anyone else like Mod elections?

No. Never.

It'd be a popularity contest, and people would vote for the people they like more and/or the people who would be terrible mods.

Czardas, TInk, Drunk Commies, Me...

*shudder*

thanks for offering but...no.

Nope.

I don't know Mods are made here

Well there are two theories on the origin of Mod. There are a significant number of posters who believe that Mods evolved from normal players whom had found the then-unoccupied admin and game and forum moderator niches, and adapted over a period of time to those roles, gaining the abilities they have today through naturalisic processes - evolution if you will. They contend that this explains the existence of the Mod.

But there are dissenters. They believe that the idea of evolution simply cannot explain the diversity of individuals on the forum, and that a higher intelligence must be responsible for designing the position of mod, and appointing mods. They support their claim with a holy book of sorts, entitled the 'Gubermenti Jennifurica,' roughly translated to english as 'Jennifer Government.' They believe a higher being known to them as 'Max' provided divine inspiration for not only that book, but the entire Nationstates world. It was He who, intelligently, designed the Mods in his image.

Who is right? Hell if I know. Ask the Kansas School Board. They have experience with these kinds of questions.:p

Oh, I do. You can too! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=438230)



No. Never.

It'd be a popularity contest, and people would vote for the people they like more and/or the people who would be terrible mods.

Czardas, TInk, Drunk Commies, Me...

*shudder*
What are you talking about? I can absolutely PROMISE that I would never vote for you. Probably Czardas either, but just to spite him.

Seriously, though, can you just imagine all the jerks who'd be clogging the system and voting for themselves?

Elections would be a BAD BAD THING.

Well there are two theories on the origin of Mod. There are a significant number of posters who believe that Mods evolved from normal players whom had found the then-unoccupied admin and game and forum moderator niches, and adapted over a period of time to those roles, gaining the abilities they have today through naturalisic processes - evolution if you will. They contend that this explains the existence of the Mod.

But there are dissenters. They believe that the idea of evolution simply cannot explain the diversity of individuals on the forum, and that a higher intelligence must be responsible for designing the position of mod, and appointing mods. They support their claim with a holy book of sorts, entitled the 'Gubermenti Jennifurica,' roughly translated to english as 'Jennifer Government.' They believe a higher being known to them as 'Max' provided divine inspiration for not only that book, but the entire Nationstates world. It was He who, intelligently, designed the Mods in his image.

I actually prefer to posit that Max created and Mods evolved, a sort of theistic evolution, if you will.:cool:

Simonist']What are you talking about? I can absolutely PROMISE that I would never vote for you. Probably Czardas either, but just to spite him.

Seriously, though, can you just imagine all the jerks who'd be clogging the system and voting for themselves?

Elections would be a BAD BAD THING.

Fair enough, we tried it before on a different forum, and it really didnt work, I just wanted to know what other NS'rs thought.

Personally though, Drunk commies has my vote.

I don't know Mods are made here, but would anyone else like Mod elections?

That would be a big mistake.

I oppose the idea in principle, but if I saw an example of a large forum with similarities to NS that successfully employed an election system, I'd be more inclined to reconsider.

Needless to say I haven't ever encountered such an example.

Mod elections would be a very bad idea.

Simonist']What are you talking about? I can absolutely PROMISE that I would never vote for you.

Er...thank you?

Er...thank you?
Any time :D

it would be a terrible thing to do to someone you like.

the mods dont make the rules they just enforce them, so to take a nice guy (not that the current mods arent nice in their own way) and make him mod by popularity then have everyone be pissed at him for enforcing the rules is just mean.

ive seen some pretty ugly things said to mods by former "friends" who seem to have thought that mods get to run things their own way and so take a punishment personally.

Yes! I would like to see Mod Elections.

Democracy is good in most cases, why not here?

Yes! I would like to see Mod Elections.

Democracy is good in most cases, why not here?

Ummm...in most cases, democracy is not all that good because of:

1. Powerhungry folks are the ones most likely to want the position of power, and they probably won't use it responsibly.
2. Popularity/name recognition ends up being the reason that people win.
3. Ill-informed voters who aren't qualified to responsibly elect officials and oversee their actions.

I'm pretty sure all those things apply on NS as well as real life.

I would rather be deleted than have mod elections. It'd be like Washington D.C. around here if we did.

Yes! I would like to see Mod Elections.

Democracy is good in most cases, why not here?
Because it wouldnt' be a very accurate democracy. You'd get people from different forums obviously voting more by how THEY knew the candidates, which may be clearly skewed. For instance....I never stray from the General assembly. Hypocritical as it may seem, roleplayers annoy me intensely. So if somebody came along from the RP side of things, I'd vote against them whether or not they turned out to be level-headed and fair, just because I wouldn't want a moderator that I don't know. Also, somebody who's hardcore in one belief system is NOT going to vote for somebody who believes otherwise with as much conviction, because there'd be a fear of moderator bias later on down the line. Also, like everybody else mentioned (or at least probably thought of), it's all a popularity contest. Honestly, I can say that I have several people in mind who I'd vote for whether or not I think they really deserve it, just because I know that when I'd complain there's a slightly higher chance that they'll see things my way.

And besides, it's already been mentioned, but I'll bring it up again.....tons of people turn against their "friends" the mods when it comes down to punishment recieved where its due. It creates a lot of bad feelings. Because of that, I highly doubt ANY Mod would stay in "office" very long at all. I think the current system is absolutely the best there is.

(Why yes, I have been through the electoral process for moderation on another site. That's what got me so imbittered to moderation as a whole and made me swear I'd never do it again)

I'm pretty sure all those things apply on NS as well as real life.
Even if they do, wh should at least give them a shot. Things will never be perfect, but maybe we'll get them closer to perfect?

Didn't a group of disgruntled posters start their own forums with elected mods?

Things will never be perfect, but maybe we'll get them closer to perfect?

You won't get any closer to perfect with a democratic system for getting Mods. There are a couple of things that I think could improve the quality of Moderation, but they're not the sort of thing I can reasonably expect to be done. The only thing I can do is try to make sure that folks know the rules and follow them as much as I possibly can so that we don't have much need for Moderation.

I say we have an election of mods and anyone who wins is automatically not allowed to EVER become a mod.

Hey, if we're voting, let's have each of the teams in the world series select an umpire. We'll have the fans vote for football referees.

"That's like wiping before you poop. It don't make no sense."

You won't get any closer to perfect with a democratic system for getting Mods. There are a couple of things that I think could improve the quality of Moderation, but they're not the sort of thing I can reasonably expect to be done. The only thing I can do is try to make sure that folks know the rules and follow them as much as I possibly can so thatwe don't have much need for Moderation.
The problem is that if mods make a mistake (and they do), then "the people" could get rid of them.
I don't really care about who becomes a mod in the first place - if people can call a vote at any time, they might think more carefully about their actions, and act reasonably more of the time.
It's a fairly simple process to keep them honest - just like politicians.

But I won't say any more, because I suspect criticising the mods in a non-democracy can get yourself deleted (even though I'm relatively certain there is no explicit rule saying so).

Well there are two theories on the origin of Mod. There are a significant number of posters who believe that Mods evolved from normal players whom had found the then-unoccupied admin and game and forum moderator niches, and adapted over a period of time to those roles, gaining the abilities they have today through naturalisic processes - evolution if you will. They contend that this explains the existence of the Mod.

But there are dissenters. They believe that the idea of evolution simply cannot explain the diversity of individuals on the forum, and that a higher intelligence must be responsible for designing the position of mod, and appointing mods. They support their claim with a holy book of sorts, entitled the 'Gubermenti Jennifurica,' roughly translated to english as 'Jennifer Government.' They believe a higher being known to them as 'Max' provided divine inspiration for not only that book, but the entire Nationstates world. It was He who, intelligently, designed the Mods in his image.

Who is right? Hell if I know. Ask the Kansas School Board. They have experience with these kinds of questions.:p
[ squints eyes and makes a pass with his hand ] "There is no book. You don't need mod elections. We should move on." :D

The problem is that if mods make a mistake (and they do), then "the people" could get rid of them.
I don't really care about who becomes a mod in the first place - if people can call a vote at any time, they might think more carefully about their actions, and act reasonably more of the time.
It's a fairly simple process to keep them honest - just like politicians.

But I won't say any more, because I suspect criticising the mods in a non-democracy can get yourself deleted (even though I'm relatively certain there is no explicit rule saying so).

Last time I remember a Mod making a mistake, he stood down voluntarily.

Also, "call a vote at anytime"? What? This could mean every time a troll is deleted, his reincarnation and his troll/non-troll buddies could get together and call a vote.

you know once upon a time i would have jumped at the opportunity to be a mod here.... now i just whimper at the thought :eek:

but anyway, if it were an election, i'd probably vote drunk commies as well :)
though czardas would make a funny-ass mod :p

Eut would be pretty good but he's just too nice (;)), but i better stop naming names or i'll piss people off or something ;)

The problem is that if mods make a mistake (and they do), then "the people" could get rid of them.
I don't really care about who becomes a mod in the first place - if people can call a vote at any time, they might think more carefully about their actions, and act reasonably more of the time.
It's a fairly simple process to keep them honest - just like politicians.

But I won't say any more, because I suspect criticising the mods in a non-democracy can get yourself deleted (even though I'm relatively certain there is no explicit rule saying so).
why would a mistake mean you must leave the job? we all make mistakes. im sure mods do also on occasion. as long as s/he is not imcompetent or actively abusing the job i dont see a reason to remove anyone.

i dont see any big problem with the mods here. they enforce the rules. they seem to me to be pretty even handed at it. perhaps you have a problem with the rules rather than the moderators.

The problem is that if mods make a mistake (and they do), then "the people" could get rid of them.
I don't really care about who becomes a mod in the first place - if people can call a vote at any time, they might think more carefully about their actions, and act reasonably more of the time.
It's a fairly simple process to keep them honest - just like politicians.

But I won't say any more, because I suspect criticising the mods in a non-democracy can get yourself deleted (even though I'm relatively certain there is no explicit rule saying so).

BS. Sometimes mods have to make unpopular decisions. I wouldn't want mods to make those decisions based on how popular or unpopular it will be.

I'd vote for either Czardas or Dunk Commies Whatevercarnationhewillbebythen.

you know once upon a time i would have jumped at the opportunity to be a mod here.... now i just whimper at the thought :eek:

but anyway, if it were an election, i'd probably vote drunk commies as well :)
though czardas would make a funny-ass mod :p

Eut would be pretty good but he's just too nice (;)), but i better stop naming names or i'll piss people off or something ;)
Geez, PM....that's.....that's a crap ton of smilies.

I once respected you.... :(

DAMN! I DID IT TOO!

BS. Sometimes mods have to make unpopular decisions. I wouldn't want mods to make those decisions based on how popular or unpopular it will be.
Here here!

Simonist']Geez, PM....that's.....that's a crap ton of smilies.

I once respected you.... :(

DAMN! I DID IT TOO!

teeheee its infectious :D

actually, i always use too many smilies - its a problem i have. i can't just let a sentence end, i have to put a smilie there to put some kind of emotion in it... like this: :)

and that is precisely why i should not be a mod ;) (<-- see! i can't help myself ;) )

I don't know Mods are made here, but would anyone else like Mod elections?

One would assume that 4 months is enough time to discover the moderation forum, where your ignorance of the making of mods would be cured and this question would probably be better off.

Didn't a group of disgruntled posters start their own forums with elected mods?

Are you thinking of FUA? I don't recall if they had elected mods, but that's the only forum started by "disgruntled" posters I can think of. It's notable that it wasn't started by disgruntled posters, but by DOS posters (the infamous Marathon (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Marathon), Beeker (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Beeker), and Parratoga). It also self destructed, with hard feelings all around, IIRC.

No, it would undermine Max's authority over this game.

The problem is that if mods make a mistake (and they do), then "the people" could get rid of them.
I don't really care about who becomes a mod in the first place - if people can call a vote at any time, they might think more carefully about their actions, and act reasonably more of the time.
It's a fairly simple process to keep them honest - just like politicians.

But I won't say any more, because I suspect criticising the mods in a non-democracy can get yourself deleted (even though I'm relatively certain there is no explicit rule saying so).
You’ve become quite the paranoid since your deletion.

I don't know Mods are made here, but would anyone else like Mod elections?
No

Thoes in charge of enforcing the rules should be apointed for their ability to do so not elected because of popularity

Edit: think of law enforcement ... police officers (excepting chiefs) are hired for their ability NOT elected by popular sufferage
They are the cops of NS

No

Thoes in charge of enforcing the rules should be apointed for their ability to do so not elected because of popularity

Edit: think of law enforcement ... police officers (excepting chiefs) are hired for their ability NOT elected by popular sufferage
They are the cops of NS
You win this thread.

I'd vote for either Czardas or Dunk Commies Whatevercarnationhewillbebythen.

Drunk Commies Modified, presumably.

A big hell no on mod elections. Bad idea, sorry but really it would mess up NS for good.

You win this thread.
Ohh what did I win!

Ohh what did I win!

T H E T H R E A D

duh

No

Thoes in charge of enforcing the rules should be apointed for their ability to do so not elected because of popularity

Edit: think of law enforcement ... police officers (excepting chiefs) are hired for their ability NOT elected by popular sufferage
They are the cops of NS


Bingo. And to extend the analogy, if NS operated like a government, the OP might rather ask about deposing Max the Dictator. However, as the mods and admins often point out in cases of questions like this, NS is not a government or a public service.

And having said that, I've re-thought it and the mods are not at all like law enforcement. They are more akin to bar bouncers or other private security.

Bingo. And to extend the analogy, if NS operated like a government, the OP might rather ask about deposing Max the Dictator. However, as the mods and admins often point out in cases of questions like this, NS is not a government or a public service.

And having said that, I've re-thought it and the mods are not at all like law enforcement. They are more akin to bar bouncers or other private security.
Oh and what makes them more like private security ? (at least more so then law enforcement) I can understand the non public service issue but in the end they both are rather close

They are the enforcers acting on the general guidelines layed down by a combination of their enforcement decisions and thoes guidlines layed down by max

I would say both are like a cobination of both private and law enforcement if you ask me

Oh and what makes them more like private security ? (at least more so then law enforcement) I can understand the non public service issue but in the end they both are rather close

They are the enforcers acting on the general guidelines layed down by a combination of their enforcement decisions and thoes guidlines layed down by max

I would say both are like a cobination of both private and law enforcement if you ask me

They don't police the internet. Real law enforcement does that. They police a bit of private property, exactly as private security does. :D

Anyway enough of this. Back to the baseball. ;)

They don't police the internet. Real law enforcement does that. They police a bit of private property, exactly as private security does. :D

Anyway enough of this. Back to the baseball. ;)

All a matter of scale

A peticular police department does not police the whole world ... they police a small fraction

the mods do police their entire zone (forum or game)

Just like a single town police department staying within their town

You’ve become quite the paranoid since your deletion.
:D

Leonstein got deleted? I missed that.

Anyway, I think we can safely put this issue to bed. Isn't going to happen, and a good thing too.

Oh, I do. You can too! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=438230)



No. Never.

It'd be a popularity contest, and people would vote for the people they like more and/or the people who would be terrible mods.

Czardas, TInk, Drunk Commies, Me...

*shudder*
What the hells wrong with Czardas?

Elections would suck, we'd end up with some chump like Kanabia taking over..

All a matter of scale

A peticular police department does not police the whole world ... they police a small fraction

the mods do police their entire zone (forum or game)

Just like a single town police department staying within their town

The police don't work for the owner of the town. They work for all people within the town whether they own property or not. The mods don't work for us they work for Max. If Max wanted to ban someone for no rule violation at all, they would be obligated to do so, as this is private property and that is Max Barry's right.

Towns are public and this place is private. Comparing private property to public property in the way you are is like comparing tires to cheese just because they both come on wheels.

Simonist']What are you talking about? I can absolutely PROMISE that I would never vote for you. Probably Czardas either, but just to spite him.
...lol...

I think mod elections would be a bad idea, unless the candidates were nominated by the existing moderators. I can see some people who would probably make good moderators (CG, TH, Sarz, Goober, maybe Gruen, etc.), but the problem is, nobody would vote for them. Generalites would vote for popular people and we'd end up with someone like Monkeypimp, or LG, or even *gasp* TNM!

Anyway, I think electing the mods would be a bad idea. However, just for the record, I'd like to nominate Euroslavia, or maybe Frisbeeteria; Katganistan could also do a good job, and I think The Most Glo... what? Oh. ;)

I actually prefer to posit that Max created and Mods evolved, a sort of theistic evolution, if you will.:cool:

Me too, except that I should add that I was there when Myrth ascended into Heaven, and sat on the right hand of Max.

Nearly broke his wrist, too.

The police don't work for the owner of the town. They work for all people within the town whether they own property or not. The mods don't work for us they work for Max. If Max wanted to ban someone for no rule violation at all, they would be obligated to do so, as this is private property and that is Max Barry's right.

Towns are public and this place is private. Comparing private property to public property in the way you are is like comparing tires to cheese just because they both come on wheels.
Jesus H Christ we are debating a small flaw in what was the best analogy I thought of at the time rather then the topic at hand

What the hells wrong with Czardas?
You mean besides my occasional flaming, spamming, lack of patience, lack of judgment, curt and sarcastic manner, intolerance, inability to help, inability to write helpful guides, friction with the mod community, and general apathy? I actually can't see very much wrong with it. ;)

Me too, except that I should add that I was there when Myrth ascended into Heaven, and sat on the right hand of Max.

Nearly broke his wrist, too.
Oh, so that's why you got deleted.

teeheee its infectious :D

actually, i always use too many smilies - its a problem i have. i can't just let a sentence end, i have to put a smilie there to put some kind of emotion in it... like this: :)

and that is precisely why i should not be a mod ;) (<-- see! i can't help myself ;) )
PM, if you start using correct grammar and punctuation in your posts, you wouldn't make a bad mod actually. ;)

(And yes, we are all addicted to smilies. :p)

I'd vote for either Czardas or Dunk Commies Whatevercarnationhewillbebythen.
*tallies down Czardas 2, Drunk Commies 3*

you know once upon a time i would have jumped at the opportunity to be a mod here.... now i just whimper at the thought :eek:

but anyway, if it were an election, i'd probably vote drunk commies as well :)
though czardas would make a funny-ass mod :p

Eut would be pretty good but he's just too nice (;)), but i better stop naming names or i'll piss people off or something ;)
Drunk Commies <incarnation> would make an awful mod.

I would also make an awful mod, although an amusing one.

Eutrusca would not make a very good moderator himself, although he has been known to give good advice.

On the other hand, there are some people who would make fairly good moderators, although none of them seem to frequent NS General and thus are barely known at all to anybody here, ex. Goober, Nathi, Sarz, etc. Whether they would actually accept the job if someone asked them is questionable (and after the Hogsweat incident Sarz won't even be asked, a pity that).

Oh, so that's why you got deleted.

Yeah, I went inactive for two months while I was in Heaven, and I forgot to log in regularly.

Yeah, I went inactive for two months while I was in Heaven, and I forgot to log in regularly.
Ah, I've done that. Of course, I wasn't in Heaven, I was in Hell, aka high school.

PM, if you start using correct grammar and punctuation in your posts, you wouldn't make a bad mod actually. ;)

(And yes, we are all addicted to smilies. :p)
If grammar and punctuation are necessary qualifiers for moderation on this forum, I feel that maybe I should cut down on always being so damn right. (Haha, ego! Yes!) Not that I really believe that I'd ever stand a chance to be one of the Chosen Few.......but I fear the possibility.

Because to me, responsibility and cancer go hand-in-hand. And I've learned firsthand that you can't keep all your friends when you have to get all moddy on them from time to time.

Simonist']If grammar and punctuation are necessary qualifiers for moderation on this forum, I feel that maybe I should cut down on always being so damn right. (Haha, ego! Yes!) Not that I really believe that I'd ever stand a chance to be one of the Chosen Few.......but I fear the possibility.

Because to me, responsibility and cancer go hand-in-hand. And I've learned firsthand that you can't keep all your friends when you have to get all moddy on them from time to time.
Don't worry. You're in no danger of becoming a mod any time soon. ;)

Which reminds me, I should have written the introduction for newbies under a puppet....but then I'd lose the post count +1, so forget it.

(The necessary qualifiers for being a mod are as follows:

1) You must follow the rules to a letter, act helpful, etc.
2) Your economy level must be at least "Frightening".
3) Your tax rate must be 100%, except in special circumstances provided for by the Administrators.
4) Your population must be at least 4 billion.

Note: If your economy level or tax decreases during the period of modship, you will not be penalized; however, other moderators will hold you in lesser esteem.)

Drunk Commies <incarnation> would make an awful mod.

I would also make an awful mod, although an amusing one.

Eutrusca would not make a very good moderator himself, although he has been known to give good advice.

On the other hand, there are some people who would make fairly good moderators, although none of them seem to frequent NS General and thus are barely known at all to anybody here, ex. Goober, Nathi, Sarz, etc. Whether they would actually accept the job if someone asked them is questionable (and after the Hogsweat incident Sarz won't even be asked, a pity that).

Have to ask, where do I fit in the scale?

Me too, except that I should add that I was there when Myrth ascended into Heaven, and sat on the right hand of Max.

Nearly broke his wrist, too.

In the name of Maxbarry, [violet], and SalusaSecondus...

I must warn you against heresy, my child. Max does not exist in corporeal form, and cannot have a nearly-broken wrist. He is a spirit of good and humor, and the Mods are his creations. Praise Max!

Have to ask, where do I fit in the scale?
You don't. The idea of you becoming a mod is so preposterous and unheard of that even speculation on how you'd do is impossible. :)

You don't. The idea of you becoming a mod is so preposterous and unheard of that even speculation on how you'd do is impossible. :)

Aw, come on!

You've seen me Admin before, I'm sure you can speculate.

Aw, come on!

You've seen me Admin before, I'm sure you can speculate.
I think as moderator of the NS forums, you wouldn't exactly work.

A small forum like the Haven is a different matter, and besides, no NS admin is allowed to spam like that.

Although I have to say, perhaps the worst mod would be someone like Moleland or Harlesburg. I know because they used to admin another forum. Imagine me modding. Then imagine that about 1,000 times worse... ;)

Don't worry. You're in no danger of becoming a mod any time soon. ;)
I never said the fear was at all well-based in fact, or in all actuality even a minute possibility. It's kind of like the fear that when I'm home alone, I'll someday open the coat closet and some random guy will be crouched in there with a knife, waiting to attack me.......not very sensible, but terrifying nonetheless.

Speaking of the Mods, isn't there some unofficial rule against Mods being AT ALL attractive? If so, then this (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=3968444&imageID=223749905&Mytoken=3CFB8DB7-393E-45FB-82A73A2246AAAF18572184625) offends my sensibility and utterly confuses me.
(That's Euro, if you're too busy to click the "back to profile" link and check yourself.)

Simonist']I never said the fear was at all well-based in fact, or in all actuality even a minute possibility. It's kind of like the fear that when I'm home alone, I'll someday open the coat closet and some random guy will be crouched in there with a knife, waiting to attack me.......not very sensible, but terrifying nonetheless.
Like my irrational fear of attraction, I suppose.

Simonist']
Speaking of the Mods, isn't there some unofficial rule against Mods being AT ALL attractive? If so, then this (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=3968444&imageID=223749905&Mytoken=3CFB8DB7-393E-45FB-82A73A2246AAAF18572184625) offends my sensibility and utterly confuses me.
(That's Euro, if you're too busy to click the "back to profile" link and check yourself.)
No. Actually, there never was any such rule. It was all part of the mod conspir...er moves to protect us. Right? *hides behind a rock from advancing mods*

And btw, that is Euro? Funny. He looks very similar to how I expected him. ^.^

No. Actually, there never was any such rule. It was all part of the mod conspir...er moves to protect us. Right? *hides behind a rock from advancing mods*

And btw, that is Euro? Funny. He looks very similar to how I expected him. ^.^

*takes a drag*

You know quite well that there is no Mod Conspiracy.

Like my irrational fear of attraction, I suppose.


No. Actually, there never was any such rule. It was all part of the mod conspir...er moves to protect us. Right? *hides behind a rock from advancing mods*

And btw, that is Euro? Funny. He looks very similar to how I expected him. ^.^
He looks way cuter than I expected him.....

Sigh. One more reason to dread moderator confrontation.....I don't want to be reduced to the girl going "The hot mod replied to my post! The hot mod talked to me!" You know.....that girl.... :mad:

*takes a drag*

You know quite well that there is no Mod Conspiracy.
What do you do, search every five minutes for "Mod Conspiracy" and reply to all those posts that way? :confused:

Simonist']Sigh. One more reason to dread moderator confrontation.....I don't want to be reduced to the girl going "The hot mod replied to my post! The hot mod talked to me!" You know.....that girl.... :mad:
I know which one you mean....lol. But I have a feeling you're far too dissimilar to do that. Unless my whole ideas of humanity and the universe are screwed up, which they probably are. Anywaay...back on topic.

What do you do, search every five minutes for "Mod Conspiracy" and reply to all those posts that way? :confused:

*takes a drag*

Certainly not. I'm no Parratoga to be online at all hours and posting like my life depended on it.

*takes a drag*

Certainly not. I'm no Parratoga to be online at all hours and posting like my life depended on it.
So how is it that every time someone mentions the mod conspiracy, you seem to apparate through the mists of smoke to speak in your echoing voice the immortal words, "There is no mod conspiracy. The mods are here to help us."?

And if there is no mod conspiracy, how can you explain that certain people who we wouldn't necessarily consider very good moderators have been selected for modship where others who might do better are largely ignored? Or the fact that some griefers are deleted and others defended? Or the fact that some threads are locked and others are left untouched, where the content is similar? ;)

So how is it that every time someone mentions the mod conspiracy, you seem to apparate through the mists of smoke to speak in your echoing voice the immortal words, "There is no mod conspiracy. The mods are here to help us."?

And if there is no mod conspiracy, how can you explain that certain people who we wouldn't necessarily consider very good moderators have been selected for modship where others who might do better are largely ignored? Or the fact that some griefers are deleted and others defended? Or the fact that some threads are locked and others are left untouched, where the content is similar? ;)
Because you're all really figments of my imagination and I like toying with you?

So how is it that every time someone mentions the mod conspiracy, you seem to apparate through the mists of smoke to speak in your echoing voice the immortal words, "There is no mod conspiracy. The mods are here to help us."?

And if there is no mod conspiracy, how can you explain that certain people who we wouldn't necessarily consider very good moderators have been selected for modship where others who might do better are largely ignored? Or the fact that some griefers are deleted and others defended? Or the fact that some threads are locked and others are left untouched, where the content is similar? ;)

*takes a drag*

Perhaps you are looking for the conspiracy in the wrong place. The truth is out there.

Because you're all really figments of my imagination and I like toying with you?
That's cruel.....

This figment is going to lunch and shopping.

Keep the dream alive.
(back in three hours)

Because you're all really figments of my imagination and I like toying with you?
Heh. You poor deluded soul. If only you knew who really controls you... ;)

Jesus H Christ we are debating a small flaw in what was the best analogy I thought of at the time rather then the topic at hand

It's what I do.

Simonist']He looks way cuter than I expected him.....

Sigh. One more reason to dread moderator confrontation.....I don't want to be reduced to the girl going "The hot mod replied to my post! The hot mod talked to me!" You know.....that girl.... :mad:
Whatever. Everyone already knows that I am the hot mod. (http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload1/MeAtNotreDame.JPG) Euro's just my understudy.

Whatever. Everyone already knows that I am the hot mod. (http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload1/MeAtNotreDame.JPG) Euro's just my understudy.

Actually, you look like an Indy version of Andy Murray....

Whatever. Everyone already knows that I am the hot mod. (http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload1/MeAtNotreDame.JPG) Euro's just my understudy.
Only according to a certain NS poster who has no credibility in my eyes, or very little at least. ;)

Whatever. Everyone already knows that I am the hot mod. (http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload1/MeAtNotreDame.JPG) Euro's just my understudy.
Oh, baby, oh baby.

Sorry don't swing that way. I hear rumor of at least three female mods though??;) :fluffle: :D :eek:

Well, I've got to go to a couple of classes. I'll imagine you all again later.

Oh, baby, oh baby.

Sorry don't swing that way. I hear rumor of at least three female mods though??;) :fluffle: :D :eek:
Four: Kat, Rep, Siri, Unfree. Which one did you forget?

Oh, baby, oh baby.

Sorry don't swing that way. I hear rumor of at least three female mods though??;) :fluffle: :D :eek:
There's four. We've got Reploid Productions, Menelmacar, Unfree People, and Kat. If you count the retired ones there's Stephistan and Feoras too.

There's four. We've got Reploid Productions, Menelmacar, Unfree People, and Kat. If you count the retired ones there's Stephistan and Feoras too.
I already enlightened him...

There's four. We've got Reploid Productions, Menelmacar, Unfree People, and Kat. If you count the retired ones there's Stephistan and Feoras too.

Are any of them single, hot and attracted to sardonic men?

Are any of them single, hot and attracted to sardonic men?
Not to my knowledge. I'm fairly sure at least two of them are already married or engaged, and I've never seen any pictures of any of them so I can safely assume they're all in no way remarkable in appearance. ^_^

However, let's wait for Melkor to post. Maybe the mods posted pictures of themselves on the OMGZ SEKR1T M0D PHORUM!!!!!11111 or something.

Are any of them single, hot and attracted to sardonic men?
I'm not really certain who's single and whos not, and to boot I've only seen what two of them look like. I have also remained more or less willfully ignorant of their taste in men, since I think the closest one [Menelmacar] is a few hundred miles away. Sorry. :p

Not to my knowledge. I'm fairly sure at least two of them are already married or engaged, and I've never seen any pictures of any of them so I can safely assume they're all in no way remarkable in appearance. ^_^

However, let's wait for Melkor to post. Maybe the mods posted pictures of themselves on the OMGZ SEKR1T M0D PHORUM!!!!!11111 or something.

*takes a drag*

Kat and Steph have both posted pictures. They are both *ahem* taken.

Coincidence?

*takes a drag*

Kat and Steph have both posted pictures. They are both *ahem* taken.

Coincidence?
Of course not. It's part of the mod c... I mean... Well, you have to allow for... I... never mind.

*Runs away*

*takes a drag*

Kat and Steph have both posted pictures. They are both *ahem* taken.

Coincidence?

Never seen the Steph picture.

By the way, what do you smoke?

Never seen the Steph picture.

By the way, what do you smoke?
Anti-depressants?

Never seen the Steph picture.

By the way, what do you smoke?

*takes a long drag*

Cancer sticks.

I'm not really certain who's single and whos not, and to boot I've only seen what two of them look like. I have also remained more or less willfully ignorant of their taste in men, since I think the closest one [Menelmacar] is a few hundred miles away. Sorry. :p

It was a dumb question anyway. If you're on NS and don't enjoy sardonic, well, let's just say you're not going to get all you can from NS. I know Czardas likes to think he's remarkable on this forum, but I tend to think of him as a rather bland version of the many people who have mastered the art of being sarcastic/sardonic. Sorry, Czardas. Maybe in a few more centuries as He-Man, you'll get it down.

*takes a long drag*

Cancer sticks.

Cancer sticks. Leprosy falls off.

Cancer sticks. Lepracy falls off.
"Leprosy" perhaps?

"Leprosy" perhaps?

*takes a drag* It's a legitimate word. Lepracy means "rule by lepers".

"Leprosy" perhaps?

Don't be stupid, he has a special mutation of leprosy, it only affects certain bodty areas, notably the part of the Brain that spells.:p

Wow, really love the direction this thread has taken since yesterday.

"Leprosy" perhaps?

What are you talking about? I spelled it right in the first place. It must be part of the mod con... ARGH! LET GO OF MY THROAT!!!

I knew I spelled it wrong, but I'm actually fairly busy and really don't care. I'll go fix it. See, that's project management, Czardas. I didn't have to time to look up the spelling, so I delegated it to the first spelling nazi that read it. You win the prize ;)
W00t! I win over a nonexistent prize from someone who lives approximately 2000 miles away and wastes all of their time playing internet games with depressive college students and unemployed dropouts! Life is good. :rolleyes:

Wow, really love the direction this thread has taken since yesterday.
Speaking of which, come back in 2 years and you have my vote for mod.

W00t! I win over a nonexistent prize from someone who lives approximately 2000 miles away and wastes all of their time playing internet games with depressive college students and unemployed dropouts! Life is good. :rolleyes:

You have to admit the joke was pretty funny. I'm gonna use that one in real life. My father says cancer sticks all the time and I haven't called him in a couple of months. He's likely to laugh himself to death at that one. On second thought, maybe I won't tell him.

W00t! I win over a nonexistent prize from someone who lives approximately 2000 miles away and wastes all of their time playing internet games with depressive college students and unemployed dropouts! Life is good. :rolleyes:

Of course, you do post here as well:rolleyes:

Or are we being post-modenist today?

Whatever. Everyone already knows that I am the hot mod. (http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload1/MeAtNotreDame.JPG) Euro's just my understudy.
Alright, well, tell you what......next time you reply to me, I'm sure some small part of me will get giddy. However, based upon what you said on the NS Singles thread yesterday (oh yes, and I read it.....), it might be a sad waste of my time to get my hopes up about that. I mean, c'mon dude, you openly complain about girls who like you being 1000 miles away, then try to prove to me, a girl in Kansas, that you're more attractive in England, than the moderator in Michigan. Does it make sense? No. Would I hook up with you anyway? If ever I was in England. Will I squee, even just a little bit, every time you reply to anything I have to say? .....No comment.

Simonist']Alright, well, tell you what......next time you reply to me, I'm sure some small part of me will get giddy. However, based upon what you said on the NS Singles thread yesterday (oh yes, and I read it.....), it might be a sad waste of my time to get my hopes up about that. I mean, c'mon dude, you openly complain about girls who like you being 1000 miles away, then try to prove to me, a girl in Kansas, that you're more attractive in England, than the moderator in Michigan. Does it make sense? No. Would I hook up with you anyway? If ever I was in England. Will I squee, even just a little bit, every time you reply to anything I have to say? .....No comment.

Isn't Melkor in Michigan? Or am I getting confused?

Isn't Melkor in Michigan? Or am I getting confused?
Meklor claims location to be "Angland, bitch". Euro's Myspace profile says he's from Michigan. Lessee.....one's a two-day road trip, one's an ocean away.....

Simonist']Meklor claims location to be "Angland, bitch". Euro's Myspace profile says he's from Michigan. Lessee.....one's a two-day road trip, one's an ocean away.....

No...Melkor claims to be from Angband, bitch. It's a place from LoTR, I think. He's in Michigan or Ohio.

Well I was actually editing to correct myself, but not only did my computer just TOTALLY crap all over itself (thereby not only losing the really well-thought post on another topic, as well as losing my edit here apparently before it went through, but also resetting the formatting on my Myspace page and dumping the entire script I was writing for my blog, which entirely pisses me off :headbang: ), I also had to wait for the laptop to start up. Welcome to my laptop. Slower loading and a less reliable wireless connection....this could really halt my discussion.....

Would it be wrong of me to hit on people online? I got slammed for that a few weeks ago when I was going back and forth between Kejott and Czardas, and then again between Czardas and Fiddlebottoms, and God help me if I come off as a cyberslut.....but c'mon. My boyfriend encourages me to be open so that I don't feel stifled......

No...Melkor claims to be from Angband, bitch. It's a place from LoTR, I think. He's in Michigan or Ohio.

to think, if anyone else had done that we'd be laughing at him by now.

*Resumes licking Melks' boots*

to think, if anyone else had done that we'd be laughing at him by now.

*Resumes licking Melks' boots*
Actually, I did laugh. This was after a good cry for the above-stated reasons, but then I realized......Gruenberg and my sister would have the nerdiest little chats in the world. I gotta kidnap this kid for the good of my family gatherings.

Simonist']Would it be wrong of me to hit on people online? I got slammed for that a few weeks ago when I was going back and forth between Kejott and Czardas, and then again between Czardas and Fiddlebottoms, and God help me if I come off as a cyberslut.....but c'mon. My boyfriend encourages me to be open so that I don't feel stifled......

I think such behaviour is to be expected of someone who has a sig with the line "adoration now available" in it, which links to a picture of them looking rather hot...

I think such behaviour is to be expected of someone who has a sig with the line "adoration now available" in it, which links to a picture of them looking rather hot...
Oh, geez, d'ya think that's too forward?

Anyways, it seemed a better option than including my address and phone number along with my picture, as well as my top three hangouts and school schedule.....

Simonist']Oh, geez, d'ya think that's too forward?

Anyways, it seemed a better option than including my address and phone number along with my picture, as well as my top three hangouts and school schedule.....

Nope, I agree. I need a photo to post actually.

Maybe this should be moved over to 'Chat'?

Simonist']Oh, geez, d'ya think that's too forward?

Anyways, it seemed a better option than including my address and phone number along with my picture, as well as my top three hangouts and school schedule.....

No, it's not too far forward. Indeed I've been meaning to do similar.

No, it's not too far forward. Indeed I've been meaning to do similar.

If I was as hot as her, I would put my picture up EVERYWHERE. It would be on telephone poles and in coffee shops. Currently, I only put it on telephone poles.

Oh, and so we stay on topic.

Boooooooo... mod elections.

If I was as hot as her, I would put my picture up EVERYWHERE. It would be on telephone poles and in coffee shops. Currently, I only put it on telephone poles.

Oh, and so we stay on topic.

Boooooooo... mod elections.
And now, to merge the topics.....

Why don't we do moderation based on looks? I mean, that's how the top ranks are filled in high school and FHM's Hot 100....and EVERYBODY knows that hot people are automatically best at everything, MTV insinuated as much, and I trust it over CNN any day....

If I was as hot as her, I would put my picture up EVERYWHERE. It would be on telephone poles and in coffee shops. Currently, I only put it on telephone poles.

Oh, and so we stay on topic.

Boooooooo... mod elections.

Reallly? Got any pictures to prove your alleged hotness?

Reallly? Got any pictures to prove your alleged hotness?

I said I was NOT as hot as her. And my picture is in the stickied pictures thread (no pun intended).

I said I was NOT as hot as her. And my picture is in the stickied pictures thread (no pun intended).

Still doesn't mean you're not hot.

And the stickied pic thread is no longer stickied.

Still doesn't mean you're not hot.

And the stickied pic thread is no longer stickied.

News to me, but apparently they merged it with the profiles thread. You can find people's pictures, if they have them, attached to their profiles.

I agree. Very bad idea. I would think that if you were a good mod, then a lot of people would just naturally come to hate you in time. Thus, the worst of the lot would naturally rise to the top. Besides, a lot of the ones who post most often, and generate the most notice seem to be the most vociferous and ill tempered of the herd.

I won't name names, but some of the folks here give me chills just thinking of them in a supervisory position.

The pictures are incorporated into the General info thread, which is stickied.

Now does anyone have anything further to contribute with regard to the original topic? Or has that been lost to the sands of time?

Or has that been lost to the sands of time?

Please do not attempt to make a joke out of this.

I said I was NOT as hot as her. And my picture is in the stickied pictures thread (no pun intended).
Well, you're not unattractive, you're just a little too old for me to really compliment without feeling a little, y'know.....dirty.

Which may be incredibly hypocritical, depending on the ages of others whom I've jokingly flirted with before. Wow. Suddenly realizing maybe I should stick to those whom I know to be my age.

I agree. Very bad idea. I would think that if you were a good mod, then a lot of people would just naturally come to hate you in time. Thus, the worst of the lot would naturally rise to the top. Besides, a lot of the ones who post most often, and generate the most notice seem to be the most vociferous and ill tempered of the herd.

I won't name names, but some of the folks here give me chills just thinking of them in a supervisory position.
You're talking about me, aren't you? You are talking about me.

Whether or not people hate the "good mods" would of course be integral to elections.....essentially the successful moderators would turn into the ones who wouldn't dole out ANY warnings, would only ban those whom the majority seems to be against, and nobody but the noobs and unpopular stragglers would get deleted. Not my idea of a democracy.

Simonist']You're talking about me, aren't you? You are talking about me.

Whether or not people hate the "good mods" would of course be integral to elections.....essentially the successful moderators would turn into the ones who wouldn't dole out ANY warnings, would only ban those whom the majority seems to be against, and nobody but the noobs and unpopular stragglers would get deleted. Not my idea of a democracy.

'xactly. This is specifically why mod should not be an elected position.

And to the other post, you didn't really give a picture that makes it at all possible to speculate on your age.

'xactly. This is specifically why mod should not be an elected position.

And to the other post, you didn't really give a picture that makes it at all possible to speculate on your age.
Ah, but in the NS Player Information thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9663004&postcount=32) (which also has more pictures), it's stated......I'm 19, but a lot of people either guess way higher or slightly lower. There's no middle ground. It's 17 or 26 in their eyes.

You know what we should realistically do with the mods? Rather than begrudge them when they punish us or our friends (not that this EVER happens to me :D ), we should celebrate that they've graced us with their presence. I long for the day when Fris or Kat finally has to tell me to cut SOMETHING out or I WILL get an official warning.....

Simonist']You're talking about me, aren't you? You are talking about me.

Whether or not people hate the "good mods" would of course be integral to elections.....essentially the successful moderators would turn into the ones who wouldn't dole out ANY warnings, would only ban those whom the majority seems to be against, and nobody but the noobs and unpopular stragglers would get deleted. Not my idea of a democracy.

LOL. No, actually I wasn't. I don't know you that well yet. It does sound as though we are of an accord on this issue in any case.

Still won't vote for you, though. ;)

Or anyone else for that matter. :rolleyes:

Simonist']Ah, but in the NS Player Information thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9663004&postcount=32) (which also has more pictures), it's stated......I'm 19, but a lot of people either guess way higher or slightly lower. There's no middle ground. It's 17 or 26 in their eyes.

You know what we should realistically do with the mods? Rather than begrudge them when they punish us or our friends (not that this EVER happens to me :D ), we should celebrate that they've graced us with their presence. I long for the day when Fris or Kat finally has to tell me to cut SOMETHING out or I WILL get an official warning.....

Been there twice, both by Fris.

First was for being an obnoxiuos little shit, second for +1. spam.

LOL. No, actually I wasn't. I don't know you that well yet. It does sound as though we are of an accord on this issue in any case.

Still won't vote for you, though. ;)

Or anyone else for that matter. :rolleyes:
Oh, that's fine. If you did vote for me, the ensuing shit-storm you'd likely face from me would thereby negate any moddish attention I would've been getting, and I would likely be slapped with a three-day forum ban. And maybe teach you some new curse words along the way ;)

Been there twice, both by Fris.

First was for being an obnoxiuos little shit, second for +1. spam.
Man, if it weren't for the fact that I really know how best to get a point across without having to be warned (blame my previous moderation experience, though I had to go the way of Nixon.....), I'd be so jealous. I wish I even KNEW how many times people would IM me and say things so inflammatory that they didn't want to get caught with, and I'd rip 'em a new one.....ah, the stuff I live for.

Ooooh, time to bake the cake.....pardon me if I miss something important.

Alright now, this thread has run its course, and will be closed. No, there won't be mod elections.