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Anybody else here have dual citizenship?

I have citizenship in the United States and New Zealand.

I was told by my father when I was a teenager that I could get Italian citizenship since both my folks were born there but I never did. I'm an American. It's my culture. Also technically, IIRC, you're not allowed to have dual citizenship if you're American.

I'm a citizen of the U.S and Honduras

I was told by my father when I was a teenager that I could get Italian citizenship since both my folks were born there but I never did. I'm an American. It's my culture. Also technically, IIRC, you're not allowed to have dual citizenship if you're American.

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/faq.html#noway

Not official, but pretty good.

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/faq.html#noway

Not official, but pretty good.
Ok, thanks. I didn't know that.

Ok, thanks. I didn't know that.
Anything for my internet pseudo-love. :p

YEp, US and UK.

Yup, I'm registered Republican in both Ohio and Florida. :) Nah, not really...

NOTE:

You can have Dual citizenship.

This is primarily why John Walker Lindh (The American Taliban), could be prosecuted as an American....

Even if you become a citizen of another country. The only way to end your US citizenship, is to actually provide file for such at the American Embasy offices within the country to which you are defecting. Since Lindh didn't do that, he was still, legally, a U.S. citizen.

NOTE:

You can have Dual citizenship.

This is primarily why John Walker Lindh (The American Taliban), could be prosecuted as an American....

Even if you become a citizen of another country. The only way to end your US citizenship, is to actually provide file for such at the American Embasy offices within the country to which you are defecting. Since Lindh didn't do that, he was still, legally, a U.S. citizen.

A better example would be Bobby Fischer, who tried to applied to dissolve his citizenship, but was rejected.. Lindh's case was a bit different, since he had no alternate citizenship, and was detainable anyway, since he was caught in a warzone.

I was born abroad when my parents lived in another European country before they moved back home and had dual citizenship because of that, but I renounced it when they tried to draft me. Yes, draft me! Silly gits. :rolleyes:

fass, please do allow me to ask where it is you were born then, aka who foolishly tried to draft you

Ah, i'm the same with Fass: I'm born in Malaysia (dad) but we moved to UK for education (mother is english) Teh passport says that the UK can't protect me from foreign service, so i'll be rescinding my malaysian citizenship when the time comes. If they do even check their records.

German (and thus EU) citizen.
I live in Australia, and I want dual citizenship, but so far the German embassy has been a bitch about it.
Apparently foreigners who go to Germany can get dual citizenship, but Germans who go somewhere else can't. :confused:

Triple: Born in Canada, of English parents, lived most of my life in Australia. I hold passports for all three countries.

Triple: Born in Canada, of English parents, lived most of my life in Australia. I hold passports for all three countries.

Holy fuck, dude. Holy fuck.

Holy fuck, dude. Holy fuck.

Yeah, it's pretty handy. Are Canadians allowed to live & work freely in the USA?

I have citizenship in both the EU (France specifically) and the US, due to my grandfather being from France.

Yeah, it's pretty handy. Are Canadians allowed to live & work freely in the USA?

No, but Mexicans are. Why?

A little thing called "working illegaly for less than minimum wage because G.W. says it's okay".

I definitely don't have a problem with them living an working here without having to become citizens --- I think it's great --- my problem is that businesses and corporations can legally pay them really shitty wages for all the work they do (these guys are *very* hard workers), and nothing is ever done about it.

Ugh, I just felt that I needed to vent about that.

I'm canadian and american.

I consider myself more canadian though, as I've never lived in the states.

No, but Mexicans are. Why?

A little thing called "working illegaly for less than minimum wage because G.W. says it's okay".

I definitely don't have a problem with them living an working here without having to become citizens --- I think it's great --- my problem is that businesses and corporations can legally pay them really shitty wages for all the work they do (these guys are *very* hard workers), and nothing is ever done about it.

Ugh, I just felt that I needed to vent about that.

I thought it might be like the setup we have with NZ. As long as you hold an Aus or NZ passport, we can live & work freely in eachother's countries. The two countries are neighbours, have pretty close ties & whatnot, so it makes sense. It's a pretty good arrangement I reckon.

fass, please do allow me to ask where it is you were born then, aka who foolishly tried to draft you

Oh, that's a bit too private, and that's why I didn't expose it from the beginning. Sorry.

Triple: Born in Canada, of English parents, lived most of my life in Australia. I hold passports for all three countries.
One of my friends is kinda like that.
She was born in the states, her dad's from Trinidad so she got dual citizenship from him and she moved to Canada and got citizenship here.

I thought it might be like the setup we have with NZ. As long as you hold an Aus or NZ passport, we can live & work freely in eachother's countries. The two countries are neighbours, have pretty close ties & whatnot, so it makes sense. It's a pretty good arrangement I reckon.

It is a good arrangement, but I'm not exactly sure if it's like that here. It might be, but I doubt that it's as good as that system.

It is a good arrangement, but I'm not exactly sure if it's like that here. It might be, but I doubt that it's as good as that system.
No, it definitely doesn't work like that.
If you only have canadian citizenship, you have to apply for a visa for an extended stay in the states. One of my friends got in deep trouble because he didn't leave when his visa expired.

It might have been w work visa or something, I'm not sure on the particulars.

No, it definitely doesn't work like that.
If you only have canadian citizenship, you have to apply for a visa for an extended stay in the states. One of my friends got in deep trouble because he didn't leave when his visa expired.

It might have been w work visa or something, I'm not sure on the particulars.

It sucks when one country is full of itself.

German (and thus EU) citizen.
I live in Australia, and I want dual citizenship, but so far the German embassy has been a bitch about it.
Apparently foreigners who go to Germany can get dual citizenship, but Germans who go somewhere else can't. :confused:

Not quite. In an example you might find relevant, a close friend of ours here in Melbourne with Australian citizenship wanted to gain German citizenship - both parents were born in Germany. The German Embassy agreed that he was eligible for German citizenship, but would have to give up his Australian citizenship. He was able to retain both only after successfully arguing that to give up his Australian citizenship would cause him 'hardship' - the burden of proof there is on the applicant. A similar thing happened to my wife when she enquired about Latvian citizenship (she's Australian, but her father was born in Riga between the wars): yes, she was eligible, but she would have to give up her Australian citizenship.

In your case, might it work for you if you simply take out Australian citizenship and then simply don't tell the German embassy. Are they going to know if you don't tell them? Australia - like the United States - allows you to retain your prior citizenship. (I'm meeting with a colleague this afternoon who has both Australian and German citizenship, and I'll ask her how she managed)

This happened to my brother in the USA - he took out US citizenship, but no questions were asked over his British citizenship, so he has both. In fact, to give up his British citizenship would apparently require him to track down the nearest consulate and then publicly foreswear his UK citizenship in front of the consul or appointed representative.

But as I understand it, while the US realises it can't do much to you if you take out US citizenship and your previous country doesn't automatically cancel your prior citizenship, or if you qualify for a second passport on the basis of birth/ancestry, it might jump all over you if you are a US citizen who actively takes out citizenship from another country. I know of at least one case of a US citizen living in the UK who took out British citizenship and was then forced to give up her US passport.

Though the relevance of an American example to an Australian resident is open to question ;)

I've a feeling that I have Irish citizenship as well as British, but I don't have a British passport. I think I can vote in elections in the Republic, so if that isn't an indicator of citizenship I don't know what.

We Northern Irish enjoy a bizarre status.

Anybody else here have dual citizenship?

I have citizenship in the United States and New Zealand.
Not at the moment, but I actually have a question for folks around here:

I'm a US citizen, born in the 'States, and I'm considering a move to Canada within the next 5 years. (No, I'm not fleeing the draft, it's actually for family-related reasons.) My question is, how hard would it be for a US citizen to move to a Canadian city like Toronto? (That's one of the few Canadian cities I've been to, so that's why it sprang to mind.) I grew up in Minnesota, so I know physically crossing the border isn't hard, but what are the laws like when it comes to actually moving there, getting a job, etc etc?

I was born in South Korea and I have Korean citizenship, but when I moved to New Zealand I also got New Zealand citizenship.

Currently I'm living in Australia but I don't have Australian citizenship. I'm not sure about this, but apparently I have to give up my dual citizenship to be an Australian citizen, which is why I'm not an Australian citizen.

I thought it might be like the setup we have with NZ. As long as you hold an Aus or NZ passport, we can live & work freely in eachother's countries. The two countries are neighbours, have pretty close ties & whatnot, so it makes sense. It's a pretty good arrangement I reckon.

They had to change the rules slightly because you used to be able to go to either country and apply for the dole straight away (there is usually a long waiting period for those from other countries) and Australia has a much better dole than New Zealand, so any bludger who could scrape together a few hundred dollars for a one way ticket to sydney did so and then went on the dole over there. The aussies didn't like it.


As for citizenship, I'm a New Zealander and a New Zealander only :)

Not at the moment, but I actually have a question for folks around here:

I'm a US citizen, born in the 'States, and I'm considering a move to Canada within the next 5 years. (No, I'm not fleeing the draft, it's actually for family-related reasons.) My question is, how hard would it be for a US citizen to move to a Canadian city like Toronto? (That's one of the few Canadian cities I've been to, so that's why it sprang to mind.) I grew up in Minnesota, so I know physically crossing the border isn't hard, but what are the laws like when it comes to actually moving there, getting a job, etc etc?
I don't think it's too hard.

My parents did it, they're landed immigrants. They generally like you if you've got a job lined up and if you have family in the country then they can sponsor you and the like.

I'm not sure where you'd go to look that sort of thing up though.

Oh, and also, if I'm not mistaken you've got a couple degrees, right? That would probably be favourable for immigration, as you know, qualified workers are always welcome.

I don't think it's too hard.

My parents did it, they're landed immigrants. They generally like you if you've got a job lined up and if you have family in the country then they can sponsor you and the like.

I'm not sure where you'd go to look that sort of thing up though.

Oh, and also, if I'm not mistaken you've got a couple degrees, right? That would probably be favourable for immigration, as you know, qualified workers are always welcome.
Cool. I'm hoping to not move until after I wrap up my PhD thesis, so ideally I would be looking to get a post-doc or even a faculty job somewhere, but I'm also pretty qualified to work in biotech industries etc. I figured the Canadians would probably be sensible about bringing in new workers, and they're also probably used to dealing with us American yahoos, but I worry sometimes that the US is going to end up pissing off everybody so much that I literally will be trapped here because no other country will let in Americans...:P

1) US Citizenship

2) German Citizenship

3) Hungarian Citizenship

Auatralian and scottish

I've got dual French and British citizenship.

US and Germany.

My dads got Nigerian-English citizenship.

German (and thus EU) citizen.
I live in Australia, and I want dual citizenship, but so far the German embassy has been a bitch about it.
Apparently foreigners who go to Germany can get dual citizenship, but Germans who go somewhere else can't. :confused:Nope. Foreigners that come to Germany and get German citizenship lose their original citizenship in the process. They can get into real trouble if they try to get that citizenship back in addition to their German one, as a large number of Turks did, it turned out.

I am a dual citzen.
I am English american.

Only German at the moment. But I hope to be eligeble to Irish citizenship soon...

I was born in South Korea and I have Korean citizenship, but when I moved to New Zealand I also got New Zealand citizenship.

Currently I'm living in Australia but I don't have Australian citizenship. I'm not sure about this, but apparently I have to give up my dual citizenship to be an Australian citizen, which is why I'm not an Australian citizen.

Not so, I was able to retain my Canadian & British citizenship when I was naturalised as an Aussie.

I have the option to get a belgian citizenship, but most likely my german will become invalid then. Germany doesnt really like dual citizenships. I remember going to city hall after losing my id card. They asked me if i had any form of id with me and i had my belgian military passport, which clearly showed me, place of birth and whatnot plus my belgian citizenship (by marriage of my mother). They would not accept that and made me a new id with nationality: german, not caring the belgians have dual citizenship. Thus i could get a belgian passport as long as the german authorities dont catch wind of it.

Yes, but german authorities are pretty good at snooping things like this out...ready to pay a fine?

Yes, but german authorities are pretty good at snooping things like this out...ready to pay a fine?Depends. The people at the Bund didn't know I had US citizenship.