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I don't know if anyone is listening to this speech Bush is making on the news, but it is the best speech I've heard from anyone in a long time! You all should check it out.

He can really inspire confidence when he actually gives a good spech instead of a talking pointsathon.

I wonder who wrote it. I think things would go a whole lot better for Bush if he would just say what he thinks and quit letting people try to make him into what they think we want him to be.

I wonder who wrote it. I think things would go a whole lot better for Bush if he would just say what he thinks and quit letting people try to make him into what they think we want him to be.
Basically what he's doing. Looks pissed off about something, he isn't smirking, no jaw grinding. And he isn't pulling any punches. He's verbally bitchslapping the terrorists!:D

Got a link to the speech?

Basically what he's doing. Looks pissed off about something, he isn't smirking, no jaw grinding. And he isn't pulling any punches. He's verbally bitchslapping the terrorists!:D

lol.

Got a link to the speech?
No, sorry. I was watching it live on the news when I wrote the thread. I'll try to find it, though!


~EDIT~ Still looking. Mghit take a bit to crawl into the web. It was only 30 min. ago!

George Bush just reminded me why I voted for him

Why, did he steal your medication again?;)

Check the Republican propoganda feeding trough, aka, FOX.

bush can make good speeches? :confused:
every time he opens his mouth, no matter what he says, the man sounds like a total moron to me ;)

I don't know if anyone is listening to this speech Bush is making on the news, but it is the best speech I've heard from anyone in a long time! You all should check it out.

He can really inspire confidence when he actually gives a good spech instead of a talking pointsathon.


YEah, but after five years don't you think you'd have figured out that talking with occasional competence is a poor substitution for actually HAVING competence?

What exactly was he talking about?

What exactly was he talking about?
The war on terror, and Syran involvement in the assasination of the Lebanese Prime Minister.

BTW, I recognize that some people won't like the speech, because it's against there wishes. but I heard what I wanted to hear. He seems to be getting tough.

Check the Republican propoganda feeding trough, aka, FOX.

Hitler had Goebbels, Bush has Fox.

The war on terror, and Syran involvement in the assasination of the Lebanese Prime Minister.

BTW, I recognize that some people won't like the speech, because it's against there wishes. but I heard what I wanted to hear. He seems to be getting tough.

I had my suspicions...

The war on terror, and Syran involvement in the assasination of the Lebanese Prime Minister.

BTW, I recognize that some people won't like the speech, because it's against there wishes. but I heard what I wanted to hear. He seems to be getting tough.


Talk is cheap. His speech and $1.25 will get you a cup of coffee at Waffle House. For all his tough talk, Iraq still goes on as the quagmire he created. Just like his dad, he's a wimp. He's all talk.

This country needs no more blowhards with a gripe. I can only revel in the fact that he cannot be re-elected. It's gonna take a long time to clean up his messes, though. I feel sorry for whoever gets elected after him.

bush can make good speeches? :confused:
every time he opens his mouth, no matter what he says, the man sounds like a total moron to me ;)

Tell me about it. I can't even make it through sound bytes of him on the news without squirming at how bad of a public speaker he is. Maybe we're spoiled this side of the pond? I don't know. I just know that what Dubya says can only be borne in its written/transcribed form.

Hitler had Goebbels, Bush has Fox.
Bush = hitler AGAIN?:headbang:
Aren't you getting bored with that yet?!
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Tell me about it. I can't even make it through sound bytes of him on the news without squirming at how bad of a public speaker he is. Maybe we're spoiled this side of the pond? I don't know. I just know that what Dubya says can only be borne in its written/transcribed form.
I'm tellin ya, I like Bush, and I squirm too when he talks. But regardless of whether you like him or hate him, when you see this speech, it's surprising how well he spoke.

I was like ----->:eek:

So, there is no stopping the US hubris.

So, there is no stopping the US hubris.
I'm afraid not.:cool:

I admit to not watching, or even bothering to read a transcript of the speech, mainly becuase I cant tolerate anything that comes out of his lying mouth anymore.
Bush doesnt give speeches, he repeats a series of statements to inspire the same emotional responses from his supporters.
Fortunately, that kind of insidious, moronic shit can only be used for so long, when the work being done is so inept, before even staunch supporters realize theyve been fed a load of crap since day 1.

Im just glad the rest of America seems to be wisening up to his lies.

So, there is no stopping the US hubris.


Please don't lump all americans into your statement. There's no stopping the Bush Admin hubris.

This is the second speech he has given citing warnings toward Syria. I hate to tell you folks, this means that Bush is greasing up the propaganda machine to enable him to invade Syria next.

I sure hope that the international community slaps down this blatant imperialism. Apparently, the american sheeple are too cowed to figure it out in numbers large enough to do anything about it.

I was like ----->:eek:...Your usual face...Isn't i?t...what else is new?

Bush = hitler AGAIN?:headbang:
Aren't you getting bored with that yet?!
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No, Bush is not Hitler. Nothing like him. I was comparing Goebbels' relationship to Hitler to Fox's relationship with Bush. I was not comparing Bush to Hitler.

I don't know if anyone is listening to this speech Bush is making on the news, but it is the best speech I've heard from anyone in a long time! You all should check it out.

He can really inspire confidence when he actually gives a good spech instead of a talking pointsathon.

You should have voted for his speechwriter.

Please don't lump all americans into your statement. There's no stopping the Bush Admin hubris.
I totally agree. "The US" was meant as a reference to the administration. I could've said "the US gvt.", but it would've been the very same in this case. After all, US policy was the topic of the forum.
I'm against generalizations of all sorts (whoops, that's a generalization).

This is the second speech he has given citing warnings toward Syria. I hate to tell you folks, this means that Bush is greasing up the propaganda machine to enable him to invade Syria next.
Oh, I guess that's why these people like it.
And no, people, it means shit if the Syrians were involved in killing Mr. Hariri/Mr. Al Hariri. Because:
- your administrations is only hypocritically "concerned" in the fate of a nice-looking, but as corrupt as the Syrians Lebanese politician (he and his family are alleged to have squandered at least as much money as Saddam).
- the UN has called for a settlement, but the US had war already on its agenda (remember that some days ago there were shootings on the border, and that Bush has included Syria in his sophistical "the Axis" many years ago). The US has chosen this as a mere "casus belli" (as if Franz Joseph really cared who killed his embarassing nephew!), and you people do not take into account that your army has already been in Lebanon and quickly out of there.
- if the US would really be allowed to prosecute the events, then let it take a look into Mr. Sharon's record of war crimes - a single assasination surely will be fading compared to massacres!

I sure hope that the international community slaps down this blatant imperialism. Apparently, the american sheeple are too cowed to figure it out in numbers large enough to do anything about it.
Agreed.

No, Bush is not Hitler. Nothing like him. I was comparing Goebbels' relationship to Hitler to Fox's relationship with Bush. I was not comparing Bush to Hitler.

Nevertheless, Bush=Hitler was implied. That's why godwins law exist. Anything Nazi-related has the connaltations of the deaths of millions of people with it. Use a different propagandist next time.

Talk is cheap. His speech and $1.25 will get you a cup of coffee at Waffle House. For all his tough talk, Iraq still goes on as the quagmire he created. Just like his dad, he's a wimp. He's all talk.

This country needs no more blowhards with a gripe. I can only revel in the fact that he cannot be re-elected. It's gonna take a long time to clean up his messes, though. I feel sorry for whoever gets elected after him.

George Bush senior was a brave man, that had the guts to leave a life of luxury to go fight in a war, were he almost got killed (he was shot down over guam).

He was a master diplomat, and lead the US to its greatest victory since WW2. He was a hero and one of the finest Republican presidents of the post WW2.

... And you know your country is going downhill when you elect a chicken shit coward like is son :P

Hitler had great speeches too, about the righteousness of the Nazi cause.. yea yea, talk less, act more, and Bush talks, but is actions are as bad has it gets.

bush can make good speeches? :confused:
every time he opens his mouth, no matter what he says, the man sounds like a total moron to me ;)Hey, PM and I agree on something political! ;) I've never, ever heard anything from Bush that can be described as anything more than utterly stupid, at least in his delivery of it if not necessarily the actual content (the latter is almost certainly written by others, and let's face it, delivery and content are both usually shite anyway).

If you can find a link, I would be highly interested to see if I may find myself wrong on this occasion.

Hey, PM and I agree on something political! ;) I've never, ever heard anything from Bush that can be described as anything more than utterly stupid, at least in his delivery of it if not necessarily the actual content (the latter is almost certainly written by others, and let's face it, delivery and content are both usually shite anyway).

If you can find a link, I would be highly interested to see if I may find myself wrong on this occasion.
Here's the transcript. (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/20051025.html)
It doesn't really give it justice though. Im lookin for video.

I don't know if anyone is listening to this speech Bush is making on the news, but it is the best speech I've heard from anyone in a long time! You all should check it out.

He can really inspire confidence when he actually gives a good spech instead of a talking pointsathon.

So you voted for him because you like a guy who talks a good game, but doesn't actually bring the goods? I guess that's why there are Democrats who vote for Joe Biden. Personally I'd rather a president that isn't making everything worse and failing disastrously in everything he tries to do, or succeeds disastrously in those areas where he's actually trying to make a disaster. Even if he doesn't do a good job of saying that he'll do the things that he isn't going to do first. If I want feel-good bullshit I've got the Disney channel.

The war on terror, and Syran involvement in the assasination of the Lebanese Prime Minister.
That's ex-PM (and I mean he was already the ex-PM before they assassinated him).

Here's the transcript. (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/20051025.html)
It doesn't really give it justice though. Im lookin for video.
It's an absurd succesion of washed-out, populist cliches.

So he's test-marketing another war, is he? Hopefully this will get as warm a reception as his test-marketing of a war against Iran did last year. We're already overextended trying to hold the lid on Iraq; we can't do another invasion right now.

:rolleyes:

Here's my favourite bit:

"Evil men, obsessed with ambition and unburdened by conscience, must be taken very seriously -- and we must stop them before their crimes can multiply."

Indeed we must.

George Bush just reminded me why I voted for him.
Was it Vodka? Beer? Whisky? Temporary insanity? Drugs? Do tell.

Does anyone else find it even the least bit funny that someone who calls himself "Sick Nightmares" voted for Bush?

No offense, SN, it just tickled my funnybone.

And here's the pot calling two different kettles black:

"Like the ideology of communism (kettle one), our new enemy (kettle two)teaches that innocent individuals can be sacrificed to serve a political vision. And this explains their cold-blooded contempt for human life."

*sighs*

And again, this time with feeling:

"Like the ideology of communism, our new enemy pursues totalitarian aims. Its leaders pretend to be an aggrieved party, representing the powerless against imperial enemies. In truth, they have endless ambitions of imperial domination; they wish to make everyone powerless, except themselves... They seek to end dissent in every form, to control every aspect of life, and to rule the soul, itself. While promising a future of justice and holiness, the terrorists are preparing a future of oppression and misery."

And just how are the aims of PNAC any different, Georgie-boy? Because it's your future of oppression and misery?

...I'm getting bored with this. So much rope to hang himself with.

*sighs*

"By fearing freedom -- by distrusting human creativity and punishing change, and limiting the contributions of half the population -- this ideology undermines the very qualities that make human progress possible, and human societies successful."

So how about those electoral reforms, pally?

It really is the very same populist sophistry. Only ardent and already-convinced right-wingers can fall for this political kitsch.

It really is the very same populist sophistry. Only ardent and already-convinced right-wingers can fall for this political kitsch.
But they don't "fall" for it, they just get haughty and self-congratulatory when they're not trying to make the easily duped fall for it.

The war on terror, and Syran involvement in the assasination of the Lebanese Prime Minister.

BTW, I recognize that some people won't like the speech, because it's against there wishes. but I heard what I wanted to hear. He seems to be getting tough.

And that's your problem right there...

I don't know if anyone is listening to this speech Bush is making on the news, but it is the best speech I've heard from anyone in a long time! You all should check it out.

He can really inspire confidence when he actually gives a good spech instead of a talking pointsathon.

Incidentally, do you recall the name of the last right-wing leader whose oration was entrancing, and his policies somewhat deplorable?

There are two types of speeches Bush gives.

1. He writes them or speaks causally where he stutters and stammers. Just generally making himself look like an ass.

2. Someone else writes them and he speaks some what normally. And till makes himself look like an ass.

So conculsion is:

Bush should not speak... or breath.

Incidentally, do you recall the name of the last right-wing leader whose oration was entrancing, and his policies somewhat deplorable?

Idi Amin? I hardly think the two are comparable.

Idi Amin? I hardly think the two are comparable.

Hitler, you fool. Watch the world at war.

Idi Amin? I hardly think the two are comparable.
And here I was kickin' it between Maggie Thatcher and Ronnie Raygun - with Brian Mulroney desperately wanting in for a group photo.

Hitler, you fool. Watch the world at war.

Hitler wasn't all that right wing; just mad with a deep hatred of anything non-german. Anyway, maybe you should stop asking poorly researched questions. There have been plenty of "right wing" leaders with oratorical talent between hitler and bush.

Incidentally, do you recall the name of the last right-wing leader whose oration was entrancing, and his policies somewhat deplorable?

Hahahaha, good one, dude!

*hands you a box of special brownies*

And here I was kickin' it between Maggie Thatcher and Ronnie Raygun - with Brian Mulroney desperately wanting in for a group photo.

Technically, Winston Churchill slides in there.

Hitler wasn't all that right wing; just mad with a deep hatred of anything non-german. Anyway, maybe you should stop asking poorly researched questions. There have been plenty of "right wing" leaders with oratorical talent between hitler and bush.

True, though none are quite as "endearing", for lack of a better word...

Hitler wasn't all that right wing; just mad with a deep hatred of anything non-german. Anyway, maybe you should stop asking poorly researched questions. There have been plenty of "right wing" leaders with oratorical talent between hitler and bush.

Quite, but not quite as infamous as Hitler.

Technically, Winston Churchill slides in there.

Ah, but remember that his arguably most famous pieces of oration weren't actually performed by him, but instead by a chap called Norman Shelley.

But they don't "fall" for it, they just get haughty and self-congratulatory when they're not trying to make the easily duped fall for it.
Good point.

So, there is no stopping the US hubris.

Nope. Afraid not. Deal with it.

So you voted for him because you like a guy who talks a good game, but doesn't actually bring the goods? I guess that's why there are Democrats who vote for Joe Biden. Personally I'd rather a president that isn't making everything worse and failing disastrously in everything he tries to do, or succeeds disastrously in those areas where he's actually trying to make a disaster. Even if he doesn't do a good job of saying that he'll do the things that he isn't going to do first. If I want feel-good bullshit I've got the Disney channel.

Bravo. Well said.

Nope. Afraid not. Deal with it.
That's very elloquent. Thank you, that's precisely what I meant.